RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Check on Amazon for "induction interface plate" or "induction heat diffuser" 
and you find lots.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi ovens

I was wondering if anyone was going to come out with a pad for the induction 
cook top.  Where would you find something like this or what would you search 
for?  I have cast iron, stainless steel and the pans that came from the NuWave 
pic, but have a couple of other types of pans that I would really like to use 
with the induction cook top and would like to try out something like that to 
see if it might work.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


How quickly the response is depends a bit on the quality of your cookware, 
e.g. how thick it is and how many layers of material it is made from.
With an induction cooktop heat is generated not by heating a heating element 
embedded in the stove top which then in turn heats a pot or frypan through 
its bottom, but it is done by a magnetic field which heats the pot, frypan 
or whatever you have. Of course one also has to keep in mind that not all 
pots and pans can be used on an induction cooktop, make sure if you buy 
anything it says it is good for induction stoves and if  you already have 
pots and pans just test them with a magnet, if they are magnetic chances are 
they will work. You can get pads which you can put on the cooktop and which 
are heated up by induction and you can then place non-induction ready 
cookware on top of them, but to me this is not really a great solution 
unless you maybe have one absolutely favourite pot or frypan you want to 
continue to use because you loose pretty much all the advantages of 
induction, e.g. fast heating up/efficiency, quick response and of course 
such a base will get hot just like a traditional cooktop.

Cast iron can be used on an induction cooktop and if you have lighter weight 
cookware made from aluminum or stainless steel they typically have at least 
3 layers where the middle layer is a conductive material. More expensive 
options are usually made from 5 layers like the more expensive All-Clad, 
Zwilling, Scanpan etc.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi ovens

Sieghard,
I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are definitely 
my new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you mentioned is that the 
temperature response is just as good as cooking with a gas stove.  When you 
turn it down the temperature drops immediately.  I absolutely love this way 
of cooking.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only
thing which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is
the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have
to first tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years
ago and it has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven
we chose has actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still
perfectly big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then
the full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and
so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper
oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think
are still best as it makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4
areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can
combine the front and back for one larger heating area and of course
induction is the most efficient and fastest cooking method. I recently read
an article which stated that gas stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of
air pollution into the house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85%
efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that
it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the
oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot
right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch it you

Re: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread Kay Malmquist
I was wondering if anyone was going to come out with a pad for the induction 
cook top.  Where would you find something like this or what would you search 
for?  I have cast iron, stainless steel and the pans that came from the 
NuWave pic, but have a couple of other types of pans that I would really 
like to use with the induction cook top and would like to try out something 
like that to see if it might work.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


How quickly the response is depends a bit on the quality of your cookware, 
e.g. how thick it is and how many layers of material it is made from.
With an induction cooktop heat is generated not by heating a heating element 
embedded in the stove top which then in turn heats a pot or frypan through 
its bottom, but it is done by a magnetic field which heats the pot, frypan 
or whatever you have. Of course one also has to keep in mind that not all 
pots and pans can be used on an induction cooktop, make sure if you buy 
anything it says it is good for induction stoves and if  you already have 
pots and pans just test them with a magnet, if they are magnetic chances are 
they will work. You can get pads which you can put on the cooktop and which 
are heated up by induction and you can then place non-induction ready 
cookware on top of them, but to me this is not really a great solution 
unless you maybe have one absolutely favourite pot or frypan you want to 
continue to use because you loose pretty much all the advantages of 
induction, e.g. fast heating up/efficiency, quick response and of course 
such a base will get hot just like a traditional cooktop.

Cast iron can be used on an induction cooktop and if you have lighter weight 
cookware made from aluminum or stainless steel they typically have at least 
3 layers where the middle layer is a conductive material. More expensive 
options are usually made from 5 layers like the more expensive All-Clad, 
Zwilling, Scanpan etc.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi ovens

Sieghard,
I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are definitely 
my new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you mentioned is that the 
temperature response is just as good as cooking with a gas stove.  When you 
turn it down the temperature drops immediately.  I absolutely love this way 
of cooking.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only
thing which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is
the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have
to first tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years
ago and it has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven
we chose has actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still
perfectly big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then
the full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and
so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper
oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think
are still best as it makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4
areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can
combine the front and back for one larger heating area and of course
induction is the most efficient and fastest cooking method. I recently read
an article which stated that gas stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of
air pollution into the house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85%
efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that
it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the
oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot
right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch it you won't
even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already cool enough
to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get all burned
in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Kellie
Sent

RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
How much you save is questionable, it depends a lot on how much you cook. I am 
sure there are statistics on that as well. You can also buy less expensive 
induction ranges, just as with electric and gas you can buy something for 
probably $1,200 or $1,500 and you can buy something which is twice that much 
and you can of course buy a Miele range for $8,000 or even more. If you have to 
replace all your cookware you can easily spend $300 at a minimum and if like me 
you like premium cookware then it's many times that much, I have frypans or 
single pots which cost $200. But the fact remains that in my opinion any 
induction range offers a superior cooking experience than a regular electric or 
gas range at the same price.

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Thanks Sieghard for your response.

I got curious and Googled around a bit.  It looks to me like as long as one 
buys a name brand product and uses decent cookware, there are no negative 
results with induction range tops.  It looks like these range tops save a lot 
of money.  They; along with special cookware are just a bit expensive.

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Hello James,

I have an Apple Watch and so does my wife and our watches certainly don't seem 
to come to any harm in the last 3 years! I have heard that it is recommended 
that people with pacemakers are supposed to stay 2 feet away from an induction 
cooktop and I assume if I had such a device I maybe wouldn't buy one, but apart 
from that I never heard they damage anything else.

As for price I really can't say because we are in Canada. The GE Café line is 
their premium line, we paid I believe a bit over $4,000 for our stove back in 
2019 and I assume given how much more expensive things have become in the last 
year or two that the price for an equivalent current model might be a bit 
higher, but how much it is in the US I really can't say, would be easy to find 
out though, just check online or call a store which sells GE appliances and 
ask.I wouldn't be surprised however if it were at least $3,000 US or a bit more.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Out of curiosity, do induction stove tops damage wrist watches while stirring 
the contents of pots and pans?

Also, Can you give me a very rough price for your setup in U. S. dollars?

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@google

RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread bentleyj1952
Thanks Sieghard for your response.

I got curious and Googled around a bit.  It looks to me like as long as one 
buys a name brand product and uses decent cookware, there are no negative 
results with induction range tops.  It looks like these range tops save a lot 
of money.  They; along with special cookware are just a bit expensive.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Hello James,

I have an Apple Watch and so does my wife and our watches certainly don't seem 
to come to any harm in the last 3 years! I have heard that it is recommended 
that people with pacemakers are supposed to stay 2 feet away from an induction 
cooktop and I assume if I had such a device I maybe wouldn't buy one, but apart 
from that I never heard they damage anything else.

As for price I really can't say because we are in Canada. The GE Café line is 
their premium line, we paid I believe a bit over $4,000 for our stove back in 
2019 and I assume given how much more expensive things have become in the last 
year or two that the price for an equivalent current model might be a bit 
higher, but how much it is in the US I really can't say, would be easy to find 
out though, just check online or call a store which sells GE appliances and 
ask.I wouldn't be surprised however if it were at least $3,000 US or a bit more.




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 11:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Out of curiosity, do induction stove tops damage wrist watches while stirring 
the contents of pots and pans?

Also, Can you give me a very rough price for your setup in U. S. dollars?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I’d come out 
here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have seen 
that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of these 
have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I are both 
totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas oven if that 
makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

Kellie and Loki   
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RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Kelly,

Induction applies only to the cooktop not an oven where a heating element heats 
up the space either with electricity or gas.
Yes, an induction cooktop is completely flat and for a blind person unmarked. I 
have learned to position my pots and pans based on distance from the side edges 
and the front or back, but this may not work for everybody. I assume you can 
probably mark this somehow, the nice thing is that even while it is heating up 
you can touch the cooktop, the pot or frypan will get hot, but the cooktop 
which will get hot directly underneath a pot is not super hot even an inch 
beside it. Another nice thing is that if you take the pot or frypan off and you 
forget to turn it off nothing happens, it will get cold just the same as if you 
had turned it off because heat is only transferred into your cookware if it 
sits on the cooktop.

I would actually be interested to know if others who are completely blind and 
have induction cooktops have done any sort of marking and if so what they used.

Yes, you may have to buy new cookware, but it depends on what you have now. If 
you have anything made from cast iron or, for example, a carbon steel wog, 
those will work fine. Inexpensive aluminum cookware will not, but then again 
you probably shouldn't be using that anyways, not very healthy.

I think it would be best if you went to a good appliance store or maybe go to a 
couple and ask them to show you what they have, not sure, but in a larger city 
they may even have demo models set up which they can turn on.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 6:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi ovens

I heard of induction stoves but I’m not very familiar with them. I assume we 
can cook everything that you would in a regular stove? How do you know where 
the burners are on the top? Because aren’t they flat? And those are the ones 
that use magnets right? If so, do you have to buy all new pots and pans?
Sorry for all the questions but just curious since we are looking into this and 
want to definitely get something that will work for us. I most definitely would 
love if possible to have Wi-Fi though for sure I’m going to spend a little 
extra because that way we don’t have to worry about trying to label everything 
and then if the label falls etc.

Kellie and my lovable Lady J
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2022, at 7:47 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
> I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are 
> definitely my new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you 
> mentioned is that the temperature response is just as good as cooking 
> with a gas stove.  When you turn it down the temperature drops 
> immediately.  I absolutely love this way of cooking.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of 
> its strength.
> Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
> Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens
> 
> 
> First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an 
> induction cooktop, nothing beats it!
> 
> We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable 
> although could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you 
> wish. The only thing which has to be marked and this may have changed 
> with newer models, is the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's 
> touch screen and you do have to first tap it before the app will 
> connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it has never not 
> connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
> actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly 
> big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the 
> full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast 
> and so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use 
> the upper oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs 
> which I think are still best as it makes frequent small changes much 
> easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and 
> on the left side you can combine the front and back for one larger 
> heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and fastest 
> cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas 
> stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the 
> house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% 
> efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that it is really 
> difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the oil or 
> water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot 
> right af

RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
How quickly the response is depends a bit on the quality of your cookware, e.g. 
how thick it is and how many layers of material it is made from.
With an induction cooktop heat is generated not by heating a heating element 
embedded in the stove top which then in turn heats a pot or frypan through its 
bottom, but it is done by a magnetic field which heats the pot, frypan or 
whatever you have. Of course one also has to keep in mind that not all pots and 
pans can be used on an induction cooktop, make sure if you buy anything it says 
it is good for induction stoves and if  you already have pots and pans just 
test them with a magnet, if they are magnetic chances are they will work. You 
can get pads which you can put on the cooktop and which are heated up by 
induction and you can then place non-induction ready cookware on top of them, 
but to me this is not really a great solution unless you maybe have one 
absolutely favourite pot or frypan you want to continue to use because you 
loose pretty much all the advantages of induction, e.g. fast heating 
up/efficiency, quick response and of course such a base will get hot just like 
a traditional cooktop.

Cast iron can be used on an induction cooktop and if you have lighter weight 
cookware made from aluminum or stainless steel they typically have at least 3 
layers where the middle layer is a conductive material. More expensive options 
are usually made from 5 layers like the more expensive All-Clad, Zwilling, 
Scanpan etc.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi ovens

Sieghard,
I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are definitely my 
new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you mentioned is that the 
temperature response is just as good as cooking with a gas stove.  When you 
turn it down the temperature drops immediately.  I absolutely love this way of 
cooking.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only 
thing which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is 
the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have 
to first tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years 
ago and it has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven 
we chose has actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still 
perfectly big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then 
the full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and 
so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper 
oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think 
are still best as it makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 
areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can 
combine the front and back for one larger heating area and of course 
induction is the most efficient and fastest cooking method. I recently read 
an article which stated that gas stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of 
air pollution into the house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85% 
efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that 
it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the 
oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot 
right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch it you won't 
even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already cool enough 
to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get all burned 
in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kellie
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I'd come 
out here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have 
seen that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of 
these have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I 
are both totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas 
oven if that makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

Kellie and Loki
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RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello James,

I have an Apple Watch and so does my wife and our watches certainly don't seem 
to come to any harm in the last 3 years! I have heard that it is recommended 
that people with pacemakers are supposed to stay 2 feet away from an induction 
cooktop and I assume if I had such a device I maybe wouldn't buy one, but apart 
from that I never heard they damage anything else.

As for price I really can't say because we are in Canada. The GE Café line is 
their premium line, we paid I believe a bit over $4,000 for our stove back in 
2019 and I assume given how much more expensive things have become in the last 
year or two that the price for an equivalent current model might be a bit 
higher, but how much it is in the US I really can't say, would be easy to find 
out though, just check online or call a store which sells GE appliances and 
ask.I wouldn't be surprised however if it were at least $3,000 US or a bit more.




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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

Out of curiosity, do induction stove tops damage wrist watches while stirring 
the contents of pots and pans?

Also, Can you give me a very rough price for your setup in U. S. dollars?

James B  

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Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I’d come out 
here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have seen 
that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of these 
have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I are both 
totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas oven if that 
makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

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Re: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-05-31 Thread 'Lynda' via VIPhone
I think I have heard that Ge has some ovens that they have templets you 
can put on so it is easier to use them.



Lynda and Missy

On 5/30/2022 9:08 AM, Kellie wrote:

I heard of induction stoves but I’m not very familiar with them. I assume we 
can cook everything that you would in a regular stove? How do you know where 
the burners are on the top? Because aren’t they flat? And those are the ones 
that use magnets right? If so, do you have to buy all new pots and pans?
Sorry for all the questions but just curious since we are looking into this and 
want to definitely get something that will work for us. I most definitely would 
love if possible to have Wi-Fi though for sure I’m going to spend a little 
extra because that way we don’t have to worry about trying to label everything 
and then if the label falls etc.

Kellie and my lovable Lady J
Sent from my iPhone


On May 30, 2022, at 7:47 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:

Sieghard,
I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are definitely
my new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you mentioned is that the
temperature response is just as good as cooking with a gas stove.  When you
turn it down the temperature drops immediately.  I absolutely love this way
of cooking.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only
thing which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is
the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have
to first tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years
ago and it has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven
we chose has actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still
perfectly big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then
the full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and
so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper
oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think
are still best as it makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4
areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can
combine the front and back for one larger heating area and of course
induction is the most efficient and fastest cooking method. I recently read
an article which stated that gas stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of
air pollution into the house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85%
efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that
it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the
oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot
right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch it you won't
even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already cool enough
to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get all burned
in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I'd come
out here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have
seen that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of
these have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I
are both totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas
oven if that makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

Kellie and Loki
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Re: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-05-30 Thread Kellie
I heard of induction stoves but I’m not very familiar with them. I assume we 
can cook everything that you would in a regular stove? How do you know where 
the burners are on the top? Because aren’t they flat? And those are the ones 
that use magnets right? If so, do you have to buy all new pots and pans?
Sorry for all the questions but just curious since we are looking into this and 
want to definitely get something that will work for us. I most definitely would 
love if possible to have Wi-Fi though for sure I’m going to spend a little 
extra because that way we don’t have to worry about trying to label everything 
and then if the label falls etc.

Kellie and my lovable Lady J  
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2022, at 7:47 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
> I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are definitely 
> my new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you mentioned is that the 
> temperature response is just as good as cooking with a gas stove.  When you 
> turn it down the temperature drops immediately.  I absolutely love this way 
> of cooking.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
> Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
> strength.
> Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
> Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens
> 
> 
> First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
> cooktop, nothing beats it!
> 
> We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
> could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only 
> thing which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is 
> the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have 
> to first tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years 
> ago and it has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven 
> we chose has actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still 
> perfectly big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then 
> the full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and 
> so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper 
> oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think 
> are still best as it makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 
> areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can 
> combine the front and back for one larger heating area and of course 
> induction is the most efficient and fastest cooking method. I recently read 
> an article which stated that gas stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of 
> air pollution into the house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85% 
> efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that 
> it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the 
> oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot 
> right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch it you won't 
> even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already cool enough 
> to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get all burned 
> in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kellie
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wi-Fi ovens
> 
> Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I'd come 
> out here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have 
> seen that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of 
> these have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I 
> are both totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas 
> oven if that makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.
> 
> Kellie and Loki
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-05-30 Thread Kay Malmquist
Sieghard,
I am so glad you brought up Induction cook tops stoves. They are definitely 
my new favorite.  One thing that I don't think you mentioned is that the 
temperature response is just as good as cooking with a gas stove.  When you 
turn it down the temperature drops immediately.  I absolutely love this way 
of cooking.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its 
strength.
Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens


First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only 
thing which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is 
the "WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have 
to first tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years 
ago and it has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven 
we chose has actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still 
perfectly big enough for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then 
the full-size lower oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and 
so on are only available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper 
oven a lot more. The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think 
are still best as it makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 
areas on the cooktop and a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can 
combine the front and back for one larger heating area and of course 
induction is the most efficient and fastest cooking method. I recently read 
an article which stated that gas stoves and cooktops actually emit a lot of 
air pollution into the house and whereas an induction cooktop is 85% 
efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there is the advantage that 
it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while you are cooking the 
oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the cooktop is hot 
right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch it you won't 
even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already cool enough 
to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get all burned 
in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
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Kellie
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I'd come 
out here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have 
seen that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of 
these have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I 
are both totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas 
oven if that makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

Kellie and Loki
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RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-05-30 Thread bentleyj1952
Out of curiosity, do induction stove tops damage wrist watches while stirring 
the contents of pots and pans?

Also, Can you give me a very rough price for your setup in U. S. dollars?

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi ovens

First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I’d come out 
here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have seen 
that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of these 
have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I are both 
totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas oven if that 
makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

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RE: Wi-Fi ovens

2022-05-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
First of all, I highly recommend you consider electric with an induction 
cooktop, nothing beats it!

We bought a GE stove from their Café series and the app is useable although 
could be better. You can also integrate with Alexa if you wish. The only thing 
which has to be marked and this may have changed with newer models, is the 
"WiFi Enable" button. It is on the oven's touch screen and you do have to first 
tap it before the app will connect. However, I set this up 3 years ago and it 
has never not connected once the WiFi enable was tapped. The oven we chose has 
actually two ovens, one smaller upper oven which is still perfectly big enough 
for a pizza, sheet cake and many other things and then the full-size lower 
oven. Advanced functions like convection bake, roast and so on are only 
available for the lower oven, but we definitely use the upper oven a lot more. 
The control for the cooktop are nice knobs which I think are still best as it 
makes frequent small changes much easier. There are 4 areas on the cooktop and 
a fifth warming plate and on the left side you can combine the front and back 
for one larger heating area and of course induction is the most efficient and 
fastest cooking method. I recently read an article which stated that gas stoves 
and cooktops actually emit a lot of air pollution into the house and whereas an 
induction cooktop is 85% efficient, gas is 35% efficient. Then of course there 
is the advantage that it is really difficult to burn yourself, of course while 
you are cooking the oil or water you are heating is just as hot, and while the 
cooktop is hot right after you remove a pot or pan, if you just briefly touch 
it you won't even burn yourself then and about 2 minutes later it's already 
cool enough to touch and clean. Lastly, if something boils over it won't get 
all burned in and cleaning the stove top is super easy.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wi-Fi ovens

Hey Al, hope you all are doing well. I had a question and thought I’d come out 
here and ask for input. We are in the market for a new oven and we have seen 
that they have some Wi-Fi models available. Does anyone know if any of these 
have an accessible app that will work with voiceover? My husband and I are both 
totally blind. I should also mention that we are looking for a gas oven if that 
makes a difference. Thanks so much in advance.

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