Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
What happened to the sync selected music check box? I cannot find it to - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth To: Viphone Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:27 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
triangle Left Arrow or Right Arrow, or + and - on the numeric keypad Action Select the next control Click the currently selected control Open or close the selected item's disclosure triangle Shortcut Tab Enter Left Arrow or Right Arrow, or + and - on the numeric keypad Action Shortcut table end -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar Can anyone point me to a list of all hot keys in iTunes? I still remain baffled by it and would like to make it a friend or at least not a howling teethgnashing monster (smile)! Thank you. Terrie Terlau -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar Hi John, I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12. They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. Alt+These worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes specific hot keys. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though their were a couple I didn't know about. On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though their were a couple I didn't know about. On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Hi John, I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12. They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. These worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes specific hot keys. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though their were a couple I didn't know about. On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
If I implied that I'm sorry. I was trying to say they existed before 12. On 10/19/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi John, I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12. They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. These worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes specific hot keys. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though their were a couple I didn't know about. On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Will anyone be making a podcast on how to access it with various screen readers? From: christopher hallsworth Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:29 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Yes, iTunes 12 is totally accessible, including the icons. On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
So soon after release? I'm still exploring it, and don't feel a need for a podcast. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Russ Kiehne To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:02 AM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Will anyone be making a podcast on how to access it with various screen readers? From: christopher hallsworth Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:29 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Yes, iTunes 12 is totally accessible, including the icons. On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d
RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Can anyone point me to a list of all hot keys in iTunes? I still remain baffled by it and would like to make it a friend or at least not a howling teethgnashing monster (smile)! Thank you. Terrie Terlau -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar Hi John, I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12. They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. These worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes specific hot keys. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though their were a couple I didn't know about. On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you
RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar
selected control Enter Open or close the selected item's disclosure triangle Left Arrow or Right Arrow, or + and - on the numeric keypad Action Select the next control Click the currently selected control Open or close the selected item's disclosure triangle Shortcut Tab Enter Left Arrow or Right Arrow, or + and - on the numeric keypad Action Shortcut table end -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar Can anyone point me to a list of all hot keys in iTunes? I still remain baffled by it and would like to make it a friend or at least not a howling teethgnashing monster (smile)! Thank you. Terrie Terlau -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar Hi John, I am not sure why you think these hot keys wouldn't be native to iTunes 12. They do work perfectly well and in fact I miswrote earlier because I wrote Alt+1, Aklt+2 etc. and it is of course Control+1, Control+2 and so on. Alt+These worked in iTunes 11 (at least most of them) and they work even better in iTunes 12. I am also using Jaws and Richard said he is using Window Eyes so since they work both for me and for him they can't be Jaws or Window Eyes specific hot keys. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As an FYI, these hot keys are not native to ITunes 12. Thanks though their were a couple I didn't know about. On 10/18/14, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar
I read that on the Apple community site. So, have you found how to get to your device and or things like Music, Apps, Tones, etc.? Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:28 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar
I haven't used the sidebar any more since iTunes 11 came out and actually like it better that way. To get to your Device you just click on the button for your device which is usually right next to the iTunes Store button in all of the libraries. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:21 PM To: ViPone list Subject: iTunes 12, no sidebar I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I wasn't aware of an iTunes 12. What are the advantages for a blind user over the latest version of iTunes 11? Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list
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Yeah, that's it, didn't think it had anything to do with playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:04, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I haven't used the sidebar any more since iTunes 11 came out and actually like it better that way. To get to your Device you just click on the button for your device which is usually right next to the iTunes Store button in all of the libraries. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:21 PM To: ViPone list Subject: iTunes 12, no sidebar I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Yes, iTunes 12 is totally accessible, including the icons. On 18 Oct 2014, at 21:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information
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Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
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I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Press command-1 to check the music view. You should then see a group of radio buttons like my music, match, playlists, internet radio and so on. Tones is actually a separate view as well as apps. Apps is command-7 while tones is command-another number, can't remember off hand. Why not explore the view menu, including the more submenu. All key commands will be displayed there. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:38, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I read that on the Apple community site. So, have you found how to get to your device and or things like Music, Apps, Tones, etc.? Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:28 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives
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I think of it this way when tabbing repeatedly, or other keystrokes. Whatever works, works. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:40 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than
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I'm glad now that I taught myself to use it without the sidebar, though even so it is a bit different than before. The sidebar was admittedly nice though. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:27 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Hi, If you use a Mac, don't forget about the item chooser. It may help with finding something quickly. Also, VO+J can sometimes jump between useful parts of an app. I haven't used iTunes much without the sidebar yet, but those are strategies I will definitely explore when I do. Best, Anna On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:41 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Press command-1 to check the music view. You should then see a group of radio buttons like my music, match, playlists, internet radio and so on. Tones is actually a separate view as well as apps. Apps is command-7 while tones is command-another number, can't remember off hand. Why not explore the view menu, including the more submenu. All key commands will be displayed there. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:38, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I read that on the Apple community site. So, have you found how to get to your device and or things like Music, Apps, Tones, etc.? Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:28 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message
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I think I'll stick with iTunes 11.4 which is supposed to be compatible with the iPhone 6. Other than changes which are visually appealing, what new features does iTunes 12 have in addition to user interface changes? Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar
I think something might change with your library. The first time I opened iTunes after the upgrade there was a message about reorganizing the library (actually that wasn't the wording but I don't remember) and it took quite a while. Really, even if you don't have to upgrade, there isn't a reason not to do it as far as I can see. You can still do what you did before but will have to do it a little differently. The thing is: at some point it probably will become necessary to upgrade iTunes though there's probably no harm in waiting until that time comes. I'm writing this from the perspective of iTunes on a mac; I can't speak knowledgeably about iTunes on Windows. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'll stick with iTunes 11.4 which is supposed to be compatible with the iPhone 6. Other than changes which are visually appealing, what new features does iTunes 12 have in addition to user interface changes? Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following
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Charles, I will get used to not having the sidebar I suppose. But lately I wish I could be finished, defeated is to weak a word for how I feel most of the time. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar I think of it this way when tabbing repeatedly, or other keystrokes. Whatever works, works. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran mailto:batsfly...@me.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:40 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members
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As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side of things? Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
RE: iTunes 12, no sidebar
OK. I won't be posting anything I find on the Apple community forum again. I had not looked at iTunes 12 when I search for information and some idiot claimed that the library and such was under playlists. It didn't make sense, but I thought it might be a reliable source. Just another example of you can't believe everything you read, especially on the internet. So, now that I have updated to iTunes 12, it isn't that bad, just very different. I am using Windows 8.1. Here are some hot keys that might help: control+1 = Music Control+2 = Movies Control+3 = TV Shows Control+4 = Podcasts Control+5 = iTunes U Control+6 = Auydio Books Control+7 = Apps Control+8 = Tones Control+9 = iTunes Radio Control+j = View Options Control+Shift+U = Show Up Next D = Show Duplicate Items Control+Shift+3 Show Downloads You still have to do some tabbing around and experimenting to see what works best for you, but you can still get to songs, artists, albums, etc. I'm using Window-Eyes and so far, everything seems to be accessible. Richard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar As a Windows user, I don't use VoiceOver when using iTunes. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak mailto:cah4...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: Re: iTunes 12, no sidebar Maybe I am misunderstanding what is being discussed here because I don't understand why you would tab all over the place. There are still radio buttons which you can get to perfectly fine with voiceover and arrows. Besides that, there are shortcuts: try starting with cmd-1 and see what happens. But all they do is check the radio buttons which you can also check with vo-space. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm curious. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the buttons, or do you use tab? I don't think I would like tabbing all over the place. I know iTunes for the Mac used to have some shortcuts for getting to music, movies, etc., like option f5 or some such. Barring that, I'd probably use a touchpad. But the idea of tabbing everywhere seems very clunky to me. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:32 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the buttons are accessible. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:03, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, So, if this is the case, are the icons accessible with VO? I haven't yet upgraded to iTunes 12 yet. Can you access these icons using VO-M? Thanks: Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Acording to my sighted partner, these are now all icons at the top of the display. She finds it to be much more visually appealing and easier to use. ,the device icon appears when the device is plugged in. There is no longer anything that is labelled library. There is home, music, movies, more (podcasts, iTunes U, audio books, apps, tones (ring tones), internet radio, exit), and finally the device icon. Visually, these are on the bar directly underneath the bar with the play buttons. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:27, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com mailto:challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Certainly the sidebar is no more so will take some getting used to for those accustomed to it. Don't think the device and library are in playlists. On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com mailto:rich...@turner42.com wrote: I just heard that iTunes 12 really does not have the sidebar we are used to. Apparently, the devices and library are under playlist. Anyone updated that can confirm how this works on the Windows side
