Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

I tried what you all suggested and it did not do anything for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It works here, in fact, I used the Automatically Add to iTunes and it did 
> nothing.
> You just have to make sure you are in your phone area, select Tones from the 
> drop-down and then tab until you are in the list of ringtones before you 
> press Control+V to paste it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon Wong
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, 
> How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.
> 
> Hi everyone! As well as marks steps to adding new ringtones, for those that 
> use jaws, you still have to paste them in the folder automatically add to 
> iTunes and then copied them to the iTunes, I tried copying them from where I 
> saved the ringtones in my downloads folder to iTunes directly, but that did 
> not work.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac 
>>> Visionaries mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for 
>>> Windows and Mac.
>>> 
>>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with 
>>> iTunes 12.7 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S 
>>> Plus, running iOS 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>>> 
>>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>>> Jaws is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at 
>>> least once, without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the 
>>> screen reader.  After that, you should be good to go with Jaws 
>>> running with iTunes 12.7.  This was my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>>> 
>>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>>> button, do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy 
>>> workarounds but I just want you to know that if you encounter 
>>> problems, it's probably not your fault.
>>> 
>>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, 
>>> and arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new 
>>> layout of the application.
>>> 
>>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary 
>>> tab, when your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the 
>>> same options as in iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure 
>>> accessibility settings.
>>> 
>>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>>> device, you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and 
>>> Music checkbox option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark 
>>> in the checkbox, be sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>>> 
>>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no 
>>> longer necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  
>>> In fact, attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to 
>>> add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file 
>>> to memory using the standard windows command of Control+C.
>>> 
>>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC 
>>> and selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on 
>>> the Tones tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you 
>>> have iTunes set to display the Sidebar.
>>> 
>>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your 
>>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed 
>>> custom ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to 
>>> add the ringtone to your device.
>>> 
>>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, 
>>> you will land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act 
>>> on the currently selected ringtone, such as playing it.
>>> 
>>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone 
>>> you wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  
>>> Neither the Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, 
>>> at this time.
>>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way 
>>> to remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either 
>>> press the Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button 
>>> on your mouse and/or touch pad.
>>> 
>>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.  
>>> 
>>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's 

RE: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It works here, in fact, I used the Automatically Add to iTunes and it did 
nothing.
You just have to make sure you are in your phone area, select Tones from the 
drop-down and then tab until you are in the list of ringtones before you press 
Control+V to paste it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon Wong
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How 
To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

Hi everyone! As well as marks steps to adding new ringtones, for those that use 
jaws, you still have to paste them in the folder automatically add to iTunes 
and then copied them to the iTunes, I tried copying them from where I saved the 
ringtones in my downloads folder to iTunes directly, but that did not work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac 
>> Visionaries mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for 
>> Windows and Mac.
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with 
>> iTunes 12.7 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S 
>> Plus, running iOS 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>> Jaws is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at 
>> least once, without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the 
>> screen reader.  After that, you should be good to go with Jaws 
>> running with iTunes 12.7.  This was my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>> button, do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy 
>> workarounds but I just want you to know that if you encounter 
>> problems, it's probably not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, 
>> and arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new 
>> layout of the application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary 
>> tab, when your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the 
>> same options as in iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure 
>> accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>> device, you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and 
>> Music checkbox option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark 
>> in the checkbox, be sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no 
>> longer necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  
>> In fact, attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to 
>> add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file 
>> to memory using the standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC 
>> and selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on 
>> the Tones tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you 
>> have iTunes set to display the Sidebar.
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your 
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed 
>> custom ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to 
>> add the ringtone to your device.
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, 
>> you will land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act 
>> on the currently selected ringtone, such as playing it.
>> 
>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone 
>> you wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  
>> Neither the Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at 
>> this time.
>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way 
>> to remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either 
>> press the Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button 
>> on your mouse and/or touch pad.
>> 
>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.  
>> 
>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
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>> at 

Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

Hi everyone! As well as marks steps to adding new ringtones, for those that use 
jaws, you still have to paste them in the folder automatically add to iTunes 
and then copied them to the iTunes, I tried copying them from where I saved the 
ringtones in my downloads folder to iTunes directly, but that did not work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
>> mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.  
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
>> on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
>> 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
>> is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
>> without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
>> that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
>> my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.  
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
>> do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
>> but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
>> not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
>> arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
>> application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
>> your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
>> iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
>> you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
>> option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
>> sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
>> necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
>> attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
>> to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
>> standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
>> selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
>> tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
>> to display the Sidebar.  
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
>> ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
>> ringtone to your device.  
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
>> land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
>> selected ringtone, such as playing it.  
>> 
>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
>> wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
>> Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
>> remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
>> Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
>> and/or touch pad.  
>> 
>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.  
>> 
>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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RE: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[David Whitehead]

hello;
it's still vary doable to create ringtones in iTunes 12.7.0.166.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How 
To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

If you google MP3 to M4R conversion you will find all sorts of free online 
utilities which will convert it for you.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How 
To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in mp3 
but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in a 
earlier version of itunes but not this one though


> On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac 
>> Visionaries mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for 
>> Windows and Mac.
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with 
>> iTunes 12.7 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S 
>> Plus, running iOS 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>> Jaws is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at 
>> least once, without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the 
>> screen reader.  After that, you should be good to go with Jaws 
>> running with iTunes 12.7.  This was my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>> button, do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy 
>> workarounds but I just want you to know that if you encounter 
>> problems, it's probably not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, 
>> and arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new 
>> layout of the application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary 
>> tab, when your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the 
>> same options as in iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure 
>> accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>> device, you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and 
>> Music checkbox option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark 
>> in the checkbox, be sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no 
>> longer necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  
>> In fact, attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to 
>> add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file 
>> to memory using the standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC 
>> and selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on 
>> the Tones tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you 
>> have iTunes set to display the Sidebar.
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your 
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed 
>> custom ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to 
>> add the ringtone to your device.
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, 
>> you will land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act 
>> on the currently selected ringtone, such as playing it.
>> 
>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone 
>> you wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  
>> Neither the Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at 
>> this time.
>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way 
>> to remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either 
>> press the Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button 
>> on your mouse and/or touch pad.
>> 
>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.
>> 
>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner 

RE: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you google MP3 to M4R conversion you will find all sorts of free online 
utilities which will convert it for you.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How 
To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in mp3 
but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in a 
earlier version of itunes but not this one though


> On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac 
>> Visionaries mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for 
>> Windows and Mac.
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with 
>> iTunes 12.7 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S 
>> Plus, running iOS 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>> Jaws is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at 
>> least once, without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the 
>> screen reader.  After that, you should be good to go with Jaws 
>> running with iTunes 12.7.  This was my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>> button, do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy 
>> workarounds but I just want you to know that if you encounter 
>> problems, it's probably not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, 
>> and arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new 
>> layout of the application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary 
>> tab, when your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the 
>> same options as in iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure 
>> accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>> device, you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and 
>> Music checkbox option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark 
>> in the checkbox, be sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no 
>> longer necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  
>> In fact, attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to 
>> add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file 
>> to memory using the standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC 
>> and selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on 
>> the Tones tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you 
>> have iTunes set to display the Sidebar.
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your 
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed 
>> custom ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to 
>> add the ringtone to your device.
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, 
>> you will land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act 
>> on the currently selected ringtone, such as playing it.
>> 
>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone 
>> you wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  
>> Neither the Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at 
>> this time.
>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way 
>> to remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either 
>> press the Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button 
>> on your mouse and/or touch pad.
>> 
>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.
>> 
>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon]

ok I think I found a way to convert the file apparently the converter is 
called zamzar, has anyone heard of it?



On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:



On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.

First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.

Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.

Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
not your fault.

Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
application.

Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.

Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?

Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
to display the Sidebar.

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
ringtone to your device.

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
selected ringtone, such as playing it.

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
and/or touch pad.

Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.

Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)

Mark

--
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Richard Turner]

Simon,
No one said you had to. That was a suggestion to get more detailed help since 
you do not seem to know what to do next and have not tried what was already 
suggested and since no one else has offered any better ideas.
I have no further ideas to suggest.
Good luck,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Simon Wong 
> wrote:

Why do I have to call the Microsoft or Apple accessibility four

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:


you cannot save it from Windows Media to m4a.
You have to open it in something like GoldWave, or find a conversion utility or 
web site.
Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility or Microsoft accessibility would be a good 
idea.
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Simon Wong 
> wrote:

How do I save it as an M4 a file if it opens in windows media player?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:


I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You can 
open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to convert.
You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
HTH,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon 
> wrote:

hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in mp3 
but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in a 
earlier version of itunes but not this one though


On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.

First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.

Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.

Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
not your fault.

Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
application.

Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.

Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?

Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
to display the Sidebar.

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
ringtone to your device.

By 

Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

Why do I have to call the Microsoft or Apple accessibility four

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> you cannot save it from Windows Media to m4a.
> You have to open it in something like GoldWave, or find a conversion utility 
> or web site.
> Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility or Microsoft accessibility would be a 
> good idea.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Simon Wong  wrote:
> 
>> How do I save it as an M4 a file if it opens in windows media player?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You 
>>> can open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
>>> GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to 
>>> convert.
>>> You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon  wrote:
>>> 
 hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones 
 in mp3 but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix 
 this in a earlier version of itunes but not this one though
 
 
>> On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
>> mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 
>> 12.7
>> on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
>> 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when 
>> Jaws
>> is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
>> without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  
>> After
>> that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This 
>> was
>> my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application 
>> button,
>> do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
>> but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
>> not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
>> arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of 
>> the
>> application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, 
>> when
>> your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as 
>> in
>> iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your 
>> device,
>> you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
>> option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
>> sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
>> necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
>> attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a 
>> ringtone
>> to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
>> standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
>> selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the 
>> Tones
>> tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes 
>> set
>> to display the Sidebar.
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
>> ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
>> ringtone to your device.
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you 
>> will
>> land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act 

Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Richard Turner]

you cannot save it from Windows Media to m4a.
You have to open it in something like GoldWave, or find a conversion utility or 
web site.
Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility or Microsoft accessibility would be a good 
idea.
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Simon Wong 
> wrote:

How do I save it as an M4 a file if it opens in windows media player?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:


I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You can 
open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to convert.
You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
HTH,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon 
> wrote:

hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in mp3 
but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in a 
earlier version of itunes but not this one though


On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.

First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.

Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.

Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
not your fault.

Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
application.

Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.

Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?

Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
to display the Sidebar.

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
ringtone to your device.

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
selected ringtone, such as playing it.

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
and/or touch pad.

Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.

Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)

Mark

--
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon Wong]

How do I save it as an M4 a file if it opens in windows media player?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You 
> can open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
> GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to 
> convert.
> You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon  wrote:
> 
>> hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in 
>> mp3 but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in 
>> a earlier version of itunes but not this one though
>> 
>> 
 On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
 On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
 mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.
 First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 
 12.7
 on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
 Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
 is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
 without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
 that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This 
 was
 my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
 Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
 do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
 but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
 not your fault.
 Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
 arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
 application.
 Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, 
 when
 your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
 iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
 Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
 you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
 option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
 sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
 Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
 necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
 attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
 to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
 standard windows command of Control+C.
 Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
 selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
 tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
 to display the Sidebar.
 Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
 keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
 ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
 ringtone to your device.
 By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you 
 will
 land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
 selected ringtone, such as playing it.
 To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
 wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
 Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
 Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
 remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
 Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
 and/or touch pad.
 Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.
 Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
 Mark
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Richard Turner]

I'm sure there are conversion utilities out there, but I use GoldWave. You can 
open the mp3 file and save it as m4a and then rename the file to m4r.
GoldWave also has a batch conversion mode if you have a lot of files to convert.
You can get GoldWave at www.goldwave.com
HTH,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:58 AM, Simon 
> wrote:

hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in mp3 
but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in a 
earlier version of itunes but not this one though


On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:

On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor > 
wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.

First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.

Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.

Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
not your fault.

Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
application.

Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.

Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?

Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
to display the Sidebar.

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
ringtone to your device.

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
selected ringtone, such as playing it.

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
and/or touch pad.

Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.

Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)

Mark

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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Simon]

hi thanks for the steps, but the problem is I have a couple of ringtones in mp3 
but how do I change them to the right format? I was able to fix this in a 
earlier version of itunes but not this one though


> On 10/24/2017 10:31 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
>> mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.
>> 
>> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
>> on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
>> 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
>> 
>> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
>> is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
>> without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
>> that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
>> my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.
>> 
>> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
>> do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
>> but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
>> not your fault.
>> 
>> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
>> arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
>> application.
>> 
>> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
>> your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
>> iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
>> 
>> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
>> you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
>> option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
>> sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
>> 
>> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
>> necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
>> attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
>> to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
>> standard windows command of Control+C.
>> 
>> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
>> selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
>> tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
>> to display the Sidebar.
>> 
>> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
>> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
>> ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
>> ringtone to your device.
>> 
>> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
>> land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
>> selected ringtone, such as playing it.
>> 
>> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
>> wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
>> Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
>> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
>> remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
>> Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
>> and/or touch pad.
>> 
>> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.
>> 
>> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Chris Chaffin]

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
> mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.  
> 
> First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
> on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
> 11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.
> 
> Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
> is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
> without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
> that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
> my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.  
> 
> Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
> do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
> but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
> not your fault.
> 
> Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
> arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
> application.
> 
> Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
> your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
> iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.
> 
> Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
> you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
> option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
> sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?
> 
> Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
> necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
> attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
> to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
> standard windows command of Control+C.
> 
> Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
> selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
> tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
> to display the Sidebar.  
> 
> Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
> keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
> ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
> ringtone to your device.  
> 
> By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
> land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
> selected ringtone, such as playing it.  
> 
> To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
> wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
> Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
> Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
> remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
> Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
> and/or touch pad.  
> 
> Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.  
> 
> Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc.

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Mark.
I do not have manage music manually on, I always sync my entire library to my 
iPod Touch 6.
But, your steps for copying a ringtone directly to the device work fine.
I just copy one to my iPod Touch 6 while it was connected and it is on my 
device.
That is nice.
I like that Apple at some point during the iOS 10 cycle allowed custom sounds 
on the iPod Touch.

That is still working fine in iOS 11.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark's Accessibility Steps for Using iTunes 12.7 for Windows, How To 
Manage Custom Ring Tones, etc. 

Hello Everyone,  

I am going to cross-post this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries
mailing lists for those who, like me, use both iTunes for Windows and Mac.  

First, let me state that I just spent the past hour working with iTunes 12.7
on two Windows 10 PCs in conjunction with an iPhone 6 S Plus, running iOS
11, with the latest version of Jaws on both computers.

Second, there are some initial video driver problems with iTunes when Jaws
is running.  Therefore, I suggest that you launch iTunes, at least once,
without Jaws running-using, perhaps, Narrator, as the screen reader.  After
that, you should be good to go with Jaws running with iTunes 12.7.  This was
my experience on two Windows 10 PCs.  

Third, be aware that some Jaws commands, including the Application button,
do not work on selected items in iTunes 12.7.  There are easy workarounds
but I just want you to know that if you encounter problems, it's probably
not your fault.

Fourth, be sure to explore iTunes 12.7 for Windows using the F6, Tab, and
arrow keys to gain a better understanding of the somewhat new layout of the
application.

Fifth, As in the previous version of iTunes, selecting the Summary tab, when
your iOS device is connected to iTunes will display the same options as in
iTunes 12.6 including the ability to configure accessibility settings.

Sixth, In order to add/or remove custom ringtones to and from your device,
you must make certain that the Manually Manage Videos and Music checkbox
option is, checked.  If you have to place a checkmark in the checkbox, be
sure to hit the Apply button to save this change, okay?

Okay, now to the fun stuff.  In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer
necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,
attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone
to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file to memory using the
standard windows command of Control+C.

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones
tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set
to display the Sidebar.  

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your
keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed custom
ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the
ringtone to your device.  

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently
selected ringtone, such as playing it.  

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you
wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the
Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.
Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to
remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the
Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse
and/or touch pad.  

Okay, I'm exhausted so I'm going to sign off for now.  

Good Luck and Happy Ring Toning.  (smile)

Mark

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