RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

I ordered a wireless keyboard, and it came last week. It was all right, only I 
could not open my PDF attachments from church. We put the wired keyboard back, 
and the first try, the attachment opened right up. So, we keep the wireless 
with keys where you can read the letters, but keep my wired one, on which 
people cannot read the worn out keys. That way, if my son works on my computer, 
he can put the wireless back on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Grossoehme
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel 
Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

If you are going to order those switches, I'd ask someone if you can make the 
change with that keyboard before ordering them.  Why waste your money for 
something you can't use?

Dave




On 12/10/2023 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.

In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy 
with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the 
typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:

 

you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to 
use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop 
provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the 
keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right is 
Bluetooth. 

It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.

When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 
on the number row for 4 seconds.

I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what 
I assume was an application key and Control on the right.

So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys 
visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message 
asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a 
FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I 
really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the 
application key was in fact the FN key.

And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows 
key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.

However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is in 
fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.

These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one has 
to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.

In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros 
and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever 
mechanical switches you want to use.

The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown 
switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they are 
too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J may end 
up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say a "ds" if 
all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In the end I 
will most likely order either a set of Gateron switches which are more 
equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a 
bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual 
Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less exxpensive 
Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How easy it is to 
disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and reinstall the others I don't 
know, bvut my store manager is a very handy person so I'll probably get him to 
do it or at least show me in case I could do it.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Andrew J L

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[David Grossoehme]

If you are going to order those switches, I'd ask someone if you can 
make the change with that keyboard before ordering them.  Why waste your 
money for something you can't use?


Dave


On 12/10/2023 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.


In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely 
happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it 
uses and the typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed 
description:


you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth 
mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of 
course a desktop provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on 
the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle 
it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.


It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.


When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN 
key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.


I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows 
Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.


So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several 
keys visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent 
a message asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back 
promptly “Yes, there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows 
Key and the Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In 
other words what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.


And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a 
Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no 
application/context menu key.


However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, 
there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the 
numeric pad.


These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and 
one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.


In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including 
macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely 
customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.


The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear 
Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my 
taste they are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers 
on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also 
very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are 
not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either 
a set of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX 
Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force 
before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry 
MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less 
exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How 
easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and 
reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very 
handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in 
case I could do it.


Best regards,

Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andrew J LaPointe

Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App to see power light?

Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a 
light detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a 
keychain type of light detector from laws actually not loves it was 
the tech guys. That works quite well. also small enough to keep in 
your pocket of purse or whatever you’re using. so those two are 
standalone. Anyway, good luck.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Richard  
wrote:


>

> Kim,

>

> I am terribly sorry for your loss and I send thoughts and prayers in 
your late husband's memory and for you  in difficult times. Surely 
these small things such as checking lights can become  quite big 
without assistance. I have the hope you will soon have a simple solution.


>

> My experience is that iPhone apps aren't as good as  the light 
probes that once were available--and still 

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Esther Levegnale]

I have the Apple Magic keyboard and absolutely love it!  I've had it for years.Anyway, I hope all of you have a good day!EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Dec 10, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the typing feel they
 provide. Here is a more detailed description:
 
you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop provided it has
 Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.

It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.
I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.
So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message asking if there
 was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.
And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.
However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.
The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they are too sensitive
 and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either a set
 of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less
 exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least
 show me in case I could do it.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew J LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App to see power light?
 
Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a light detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a keychain type of light detector from laws actually not loves it was the tech guys. That works quite
 well. also small enough to keep in your pocket of purse or whatever you’re using. so those two are standalone. Anyway, good luck.

Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Kim,
> 
> I am terribly sorry for your loss and I send thoughts and prayers in your late husband's memory and for you  in difficult times. Surely these small things such as checking lights can become  quite big without assistance. I have the
 hope you will soon have a simple  solution.
> 
> My experience is that iPhone apps aren't as good as  the light probes that once were available--and still may 

RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

My new Logitech wireless has no Applications key; I just use Shift+F10. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current computer, I 
bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer repair store that is 
working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard with no applications key.  I use 
that key all the time for my context menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
> keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
> want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely 
> happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it 
> uses and the typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:
>
>
>
> you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
> computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth 
> mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of 
> course a desktop provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on 
> the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle 
> it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.
>
> It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
> Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
>
> When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
> said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN 
> key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.
>
> I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
> Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows 
> Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.
>
> So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
> told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys 
> visible.
> I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message 
> asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, 
> there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the 
> Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In other words 
> what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.
>
> And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a 
> Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu 
> key.
>
> However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
> Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, 
> there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
>
> These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
> accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and 
> one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
>
> In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including 
> macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely 
> customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.
>
> The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
> Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear 
> Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my 
> taste they are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers 
> on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also 
> very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are 
> not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either 
> a set of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX 
> Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force 
> before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry 
> MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less 
> exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How 
> easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and 
> reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very 
> handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in case I 
> could do it.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Andrew J LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
> To: vip

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I have no interest in using a bluetooth headset with my windows
computer.  I use a USB headset if I need it for things like zoom
calls.  I like my apple airpods max, because I use them to listen to
audio dramas as well.  My problem with those high end wired headsets,
is you usually need a dongle, some kind of DAC thing to make them
sound their best.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It is complicated in a way, but if you spend 6 days a week and between 6 and
> 12 hours a day on the computer because that is what I do for my business
> then looking for something which lasts more than a year makes sense.
> Yes, I can get a $25 Usb keyboard and I could throw it out every year and
> get a new one and it would take around 5 years strictly from a money
> perspective to justify the more expensive one, but you can say the same for
> many things.
> If I remember, for example, you have an Apple Airpod Max headset which here
> in Canada cost North of $700 and I would never even consider spending that
> on a headset. If I did consider it I'd buy a wired high-end audio file
> headset where even one which costs half that much would give me better
> sound.
> If I use a headset I listen to audio books 99% of the time, at work I don't
> use a headset or if I do it's very seldom and at home with my laptop I use a
> $49 Creative Jam V2 headset paired to an Avantree low-latency Bluetooth
> receiver because I go crazy using a "regular" bluetooth keyboard where
> latency is always an issue and yes, even with your super-expensive Airpods
> Max it's an issue and in any case, from what I heard they don't play nice
> with a Windows PC to begin with.
> Anyhow, everybody uses what they feel gives them the best experience. I also
> have a couple of Das Keyboard 4 Professional mechanical keyboards which cost
> twice of what the Keychron cost and you don't have any of the customization
> options. They are also very good, but sometimes fiddling around a bit to
> possibly find something which is truly outstanding is a good idea and if I
> really like the Keychron K10 with a different set of switches then next time
> I either order it that way or I order the bare bones version, e.g. just the
> keyboard without switches and key caps and then order those to my liking
> which you can do with Keychron.
> Having said all that, I just visited an old blind friend in Ontario when I
> was there to attend a trade show. He used to work at the University of
> Western Ontario when I was a student there in my first year in 1989/1990. He
> is now in his early 70's and retired and he is mostly at home, playing
> guitar with a few buddies and messing around on his phone or computer. I
> should mention that he hasn't used a Mac or iPhone in his life and he hasn't
> used a Windows PC in forever. He is strictly a Linux guy and in his living
> room he has a little Raspeberry Pie with eSpeak on it and I guess he uses
> that as his media server. I have been using computers since the DOS and Jaws
> for DOS days in the late 90's and with an Accent synthesizer at the time
> which was maybe more like eSpeak than Eloquence. But he had the thing set so
> fast that even I could barely understand anything; he loves to tinker around
> and that is his thing. Like I said to each their own. I personally prefer my
> Sonos system where along with the Sonos iOS app I get a polished and
> accessible experience out of the box and I prefer to spend the money each
> month for Apple Music and while I did at one point rip my 250 o rso CD's to
> a hard drive in FLAC format (before I sold them all), I rarely bother with
> that because why would I if I can just ask Apple Music to play anything I
> want. And if I want to listen to really high fidelity music I go downstairs
> and fire up my Sonic Frontiers tube amp and the other stuff which is part of
> that system and which I bought in the mid 90's for what people paid for a
> brand new car; let's just say it was a lot more than $10,000 and still a
> fair bit less than $50,000. At times I wish I could sell this system to
> somebody for $10 or $15 grant where it would have a good home and get used a
> lot more than it does nowadays in my house, but it's so customized with
> custom speakers built by a brilliant yet unknown audio engineer in Calgary
> that I would not get a lot for it. I could probably sell the Sonic Frontiers
> Power 2 amp,, the Sonic Frontiers DA-2 DAC and the Bryston 4NRB amp which
> drives the subwoofers fairly easily, but then what would I do with the
> speakers and subwoofers which back then alone were $10,000 (all Canadian
> Dollars).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 5:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>

RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is complicated in a way, but if you spend 6 days a week and between 6 and 12 
hours a day on the computer because that is what I do for my business then 
looking for something which lasts more than a year makes sense.
Yes, I can get a $25 Usb keyboard and I could throw it out every year and get a 
new one and it would take around 5 years strictly from a money perspective to 
justify the more expensive one, but you can say the same for many things.
If I remember, for example, you have an Apple Airpod Max headset which here in 
Canada cost North of $700 and I would never even consider spending that on a 
headset. If I did consider it I'd buy a wired high-end audio file headset where 
even one which costs half that much would give me better sound.
If I use a headset I listen to audio books 99% of the time, at work I don't use 
a headset or if I do it's very seldom and at home with my laptop I use a $49 
Creative Jam V2 headset paired to an Avantree low-latency Bluetooth receiver 
because I go crazy using a "regular" bluetooth keyboard where latency is always 
an issue and yes, even with your super-expensive Airpods Max it's an issue and 
in any case, from what I heard they don't play nice with a Windows PC to begin 
with.
Anyhow, everybody uses what they feel gives them the best experience. I also 
have a couple of Das Keyboard 4 Professional mechanical keyboards which cost 
twice of what the Keychron cost and you don't have any of the customization 
options. They are also very good, but sometimes fiddling around a bit to 
possibly find something which is truly outstanding is a good idea and if I 
really like the Keychron K10 with a different set of switches then next time I 
either order it that way or I order the bare bones version, e.g. just the 
keyboard without switches and key caps and then order those to my liking which 
you can do with Keychron.
Having said all that, I just visited an old blind friend in Ontario when I was 
there to attend a trade show. He used to work at the University of Western 
Ontario when I was a student there in my first year in 1989/1990. He is now in 
his early 70's and retired and he is mostly at home, playing guitar with a few 
buddies and messing around on his phone or computer. I should mention that he 
hasn't used a Mac or iPhone in his life and he hasn't used a Windows PC in 
forever. He is strictly a Linux guy and in his living room he has a little 
Raspeberry Pie with eSpeak on it and I guess he uses that as his media server. 
I have been using computers since the DOS and Jaws for DOS days in the late 
90's and with an Accent synthesizer at the time which was maybe more like 
eSpeak than Eloquence. But he had the thing set so fast that even I could 
barely understand anything; he loves to tinker around and that is his thing. 
Like I said to each their own. I personally prefer my Sonos system where along 
with the Sonos iOS app I get a polished and accessible experience out of the 
box and I prefer to spend the money each month for Apple Music and while I did 
at one point rip my 250 o rso CD's to a hard drive in FLAC format (before I 
sold them all), I rarely bother with that because why would I if I can just ask 
Apple Music to play anything I want. And if I want to listen to really high 
fidelity music I go downstairs and fire up my Sonic Frontiers tube amp and the 
other stuff which is part of that system and which I bought in the mid 90's for 
what people paid for a brand new car; let's just say it was a lot more than 
$10,000 and still a fair bit less than $50,000. At times I wish I could sell 
this system to somebody for $10 or $15 grant where it would have a good home 
and get used a lot more than it does nowadays in my house, but it's so 
customized with custom speakers built by a brilliant yet unknown audio engineer 
in Calgary that I would not get a lot for it. I could probably sell the Sonic 
Frontiers Power 2 amp,, the Sonic Frontiers DA-2 DAC and the Bryston 4NRB amp 
which drives the subwoofers fairly easily, but then what would I do with the 
speakers and subwoofers which back then alone were $10,000 (all Canadian 
Dollars).

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current computer, I 
bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer repair store that is 
working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard with no applications key.  I use 
that key all the time for my context menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
> keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
> want to play around with it, as it is out of the

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current
computer, I bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer
repair store that is working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard
with no applications key.  I use that key all the time for my context
menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical keyboard
> because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I want
> to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy with
> it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the typing
> feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:
>
>
>
> you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your
> computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to
> use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop
> provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the
> keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right
> is Bluetooth.
>
> It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from
> Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
>
> When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction said
> to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 on
> the number row for 4 seconds.
>
> I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, Windows
> Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what I
> assume was an application key and Control on the right.
>
> So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it told
> me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys visible.
> I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message asking if
> there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a FN key
> on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I
> really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the
> application key was in fact the FN key.
>
> And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows key
> on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.
>
> However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the
> Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is
> in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
>
> These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an
> accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one
> has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
>
> In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros and
> in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever
> mechanical switches you want to use.
>
> The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 Canadian
> comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown
> switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they
> are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J
> may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say
> a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In
> the end I will most likely order either a set of Gateron switches which are
> more equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and
> requires a bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you
> can use actual Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the
> somewhat less exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH
> switches. How easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and
> reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very handy
> person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in case I could
> do it.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Andrew J LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: App to see power light?
>
>
>
> Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a light
> detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a keychain type of
> light detector from laws actually not loves it was the tech guys. That works
> quite well. also small enough to keep in your pocket of purse or whatever
> you’re using. so those two are standalone. Anyway, good luck.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Richard
>> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Kim,
>
>>
>
>> I am terribly sorry for your loss and I send thoughts and