RE: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread Richard Turner
Karen, I'll forward your message to the group owner and see if he can sort that 
out.



Richard


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing

I joined the Orbit Reader list a couple of weeks ago.  I have been receiving 
messages, but for some reason my messages to the group have been rejected.


-Original Message-
From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing

Anyone who has questions about the orbit reader, I would say join the list. 
There are a lot of helpful people on there who would be more then happy to 
answer any questions you might have. 

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 12:05, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure of the distinction you are making.
> 
> If you are doing space+dot3 with the rotor on words, are you not using the 
> Orbit to move the cursor?
> 
> If you are using any keyboard, qwerty or braille, the only way to move the 
> cursor is with VoiceOver commands using the keyboard.
> 
> I don t think just using the arrow keys works when connected to the iPhone.
> 
> Perhaps it should.  
> 
> A new build for the firmware is going into beta testing next week for the 
> Orbit Reader 20 plus.  This would be a good time to request any changes to 
> the current functionality.
> 
> You may also want to join the Orbit-reader groups.io list.
> orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Karen Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
> Orbit reader?
> 
> Karen
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
> rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, 
> turns the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the 
> left, and space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the 
> rotor will get You to the spot.
> Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady 
> Jessica to Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  
>> When writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it 
>> before sending, I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I 
>> get the braille cursor back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
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RE: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread Karen Poulakos
I joined the Orbit Reader list a couple of weeks ago.  I have been receiving 
messages, but for some reason my messages to the group have been rejected.


-Original Message-
From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing

Anyone who has questions about the orbit reader, I would say join the list. 
There are a lot of helpful people on there who would be more then happy to 
answer any questions you might have. 

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 12:05, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure of the distinction you are making.
> 
> If you are doing space+dot3 with the rotor on words, are you not using the 
> Orbit to move the cursor?
> 
> If you are using any keyboard, qwerty or braille, the only way to move the 
> cursor is with VoiceOver commands using the keyboard.
> 
> I don�t think just using the arrow keys works when connected to the iPhone.
> 
> Perhaps it should.  
> 
> A new build for the firmware is going into beta testing next week for the 
> Orbit Reader 20 plus.  This would be a good time to request any changes to 
> the current functionality.
> 
> You may also want to join the Orbit-reader groups.io list.
> orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
> Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
> Orbit reader?
> 
> Karen
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
> rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, 
> turns the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the 
> left, and space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the 
> rotor will get You to the spot.
> Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When 
>> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before 
>> sending, I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the 
>> braille cursor back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
>> 
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RE: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread Karen Poulakos
Oops, I thought you were referring to the rotor on the phone.  I still have a 
lot to learn about the Orbit Reader. (smile)

Karen

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing

I'm not sure of the distinction you are making.

If you are doing space+dot3 with the rotor on words, are you not using the 
Orbit to move the cursor?

If you are using any keyboard, qwerty or braille, the only way to move the 
cursor is with VoiceOver commands using the keyboard.

I don�t think just using the arrow keys works when connected to the iPhone.

Perhaps it should.  

A new build for the firmware is going into beta testing next week for the Orbit 
Reader 20 plus.  This would be a good time to request any changes to the 
current functionality.

You may also want to join the Orbit-reader groups.io list.
orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io


Richard


My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing

I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
Orbit reader?

Karen
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing

You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, turns 
the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the left, and 
space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the rotor will get 
You to the spot.
Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
  


Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When 
> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before 
> sending, I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the 
> braille cursor back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much 
> appreciated.
> 
> Karen P
> 
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Re: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone
Anyone who has questions about the orbit reader, I would say join the list. 
There are a lot of helpful people on there who would be more then happy to 
answer any questions you might have. 

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 12:05, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure of the distinction you are making.
> 
> If you are doing space+dot3 with the rotor on words, are you not using the 
> Orbit to move the cursor?
> 
> If you are using any keyboard, qwerty or braille, the only way to move the 
> cursor is with VoiceOver commands using the keyboard.
> 
> I don’t think just using the arrow keys works when connected to the iPhone.
> 
> Perhaps it should.  
> 
> A new build for the firmware is going into beta testing next week for the 
> Orbit Reader 20 plus.  This would be a good time to request any changes to 
> the current functionality.
> 
> You may also want to join the Orbit-reader groups.io list.
> orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
> Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
> Orbit reader?
> 
> Karen
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing
> 
> You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
> rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, 
> turns the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the 
> left, and space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the 
> rotor will get You to the spot.
> Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
>> 
>> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When 
>> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before 
>> sending, I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the 
>> braille cursor back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
>> 
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RE: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread Richard Turner
I'm not sure of the distinction you are making.

If you are doing space+dot3 with the rotor on words, are you not using the 
Orbit to move the cursor?

If you are using any keyboard, qwerty or braille, the only way to move the 
cursor is with VoiceOver commands using the keyboard.

I don’t think just using the arrow keys works when connected to the iPhone.

Perhaps it should.  

A new build for the firmware is going into beta testing next week for the Orbit 
Reader 20 plus.  This would be a good time to request any changes to the 
current functionality.

You may also want to join the Orbit-reader groups.io list.
orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io


Richard


My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Orbit Reader and editing

I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
Orbit reader?

Karen
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing

You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, turns 
the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the left, and 
space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the rotor will get 
You to the spot.
Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
  


Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When 
> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before 
> sending, I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the 
> braille cursor back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much 
> appreciated.
> 
> Karen P
> 
> 
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RE: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread Karen Poulakos
I know about using the Rotor.  Is there a way to move the cursor using the 
Orbit reader?

Karen
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader and editing

You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, turns 
the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the left, and 
space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the rotor will get 
You to the spot.
Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
  


Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> ?I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When
> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before sending,
> I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the braille cursor
> back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> Karen P  
> 
> 
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Re: Orbit Reader and editing

2022-02-26 Thread Richard Turner
You can use the move by word, then character, to get to the problem.  Use the 
rotor commands, space+dots2,3 turn rotor counterclockwise. Space+dots5,6, turns 
the rotor clockwise. space+dot3 moves by whatever rotor choice to the left, and 
space+6 goes to the right. So, using word and character on the rotor will get 
You to the spot.
Of  course the lines option helps too when needing to move farther.
  


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> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
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> I am using my new Orbit Reader 20 Plus with an older iPhone SE.  When
> writing an email message, sometimes when reading through it before sending,
> I will find an error I need to correct.  How can I get the braille cursor
> back to the spot I need to correct.  Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> Karen P  
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