subject:"Re\: Thermostat confusion."

RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Rose Combs

Yeah, I have a gmail address I could switch most things to and one that is 
pretty private, used by only family members now but once was for my late 
husband to connect with me or me to him.  I just do not relish switching 
everyone over to it the more used one.  I should have let Tom do it in 2012 
when he offered, darn it, his ghost won't help me now.  

Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

If the second cousin can't figure it out then maybe it's time for a 
professional installer to take a look.
If you do end up having to switch to a different provider I recommend you get 
either an @outlook.com or @gmail.com email, you will have that for the rest of 
your life no matter who your internet provider is.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has 
been three weeks.  
I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change 
temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside.  
Not too much to ask.  
Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, 
getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it 
needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, 
I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.  

It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, 
told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in 
winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working.  
Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking 
one to a remotely controlled one anyway.  
Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell 
service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house 
and still no good solutions.  Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided 
an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple 
times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, 
answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week 
instead of once in two years.  Needed to move, no choices there, love the 
house, hate to phone services I am currently getting.  Cell tower less than 
half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why 
doesn't it work!  

I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may 
need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in 
the community here.  

Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house 
and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting 
annoying.  

Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them 
alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn 
off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a 
mouse, my late husband's preference.  

Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually 
understands screen readers.  Not happening in this lifetime I suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't

RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

If the second cousin can't figure it out then maybe it's time for a 
professional installer to take a look.
If you do end up having to switch to a different provider I recommend you get 
either an @outlook.com or @gmail.com email, you will have that for the rest of 
your life no matter who your internet provider is.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has 
been three weeks.  
I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change 
temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside.  
Not too much to ask.  
Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, 
getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it 
needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, 
I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.  

It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, 
told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in 
winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working.  
Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking 
one to a remotely controlled one anyway.  
Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell 
service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house 
and still no good solutions.  Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided 
an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple 
times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, 
answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week 
instead of once in two years.  Needed to move, no choices there, love the 
house, hate to phone services I am currently getting.  Cell tower less than 
half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why 
doesn't it work!  

I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may 
need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in 
the community here.  

Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house 
and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting 
annoying.  

Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them 
alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn 
off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a 
mouse, my late husband's preference.  

Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually 
understands screen readers.  Not happening in this lifetime I suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person

RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Rose Combs

Great, I would be just the opposite, summer is when I want it cool, I don't 
care that much about winter, but then I am in Mesa, Arizona, next door to 
Phoenix.  LOL, however, right now I can do nothing with the one currently in 
house where I moved three weeks ago.  Hopefully that will change before long.  
Not sure I want a Ness, however, poor communications outside this area it 
seems.  Even with cell tower less than half a mile away which someone, not me, 
can see through the trees at a window in my house.  House is great, landline 
and cell service so far is horrible.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

Chip, another use for the nest thermostat is the ability to set the thermostat 
at home or away mode. This is really why I got a Wi-Fi thermostat to begin 
with. We have cold weather here. There's nothing worse than coming home to a 
cold house. When I find helpful with the Wi-Fi thermostats is a you can set 
your temperature while you're away and then change back to home mode and warm 
your house up when you get there. The same applies of course for cooling. This 
is all accessible through the nest app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
> thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
> the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not 
> (the Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with 
> an app you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app 
> indicates if you are at home or not using location services).
> 
> Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
> airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
> integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or 
> all of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
> increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house 
> feel much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.
> 
> In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
> into the HVAC called a humidifier.
> 
> It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
> thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
> to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
> heating?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all membe

RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Rose Combs

Second cousin tried to install it ignoring wire, it did not work and it has 
been three weeks.  
I just want my old one back, or something I can control, turn on, off, change 
temperature, and hear what the temperature is inside.  
Not too much to ask.  
Asked about apps only because one cousin says it is the only thing I can do, 
getting feedback so I can say her idea is not particularly viable or that it 
needs to be a specific brand ... I don't need to control it when I am not here, 
I am always here, or gone only for an hour or so.  

It is what it is, and I really want my talking one back, it did what I require, 
told me the temperature, was programmable, used when I worked, especially in 
winter when I did not wish to heat the house much when I was working.  
Since I seem to have horrible internet coverage here now, I'd prefer my talking 
one to a remotely controlled one anyway.  
Living in a well populated area, getting horrible landline, internet and cell 
service despite hours talking with technicians, having one arrive at my house 
and still no good solutions.  Verizon disabled my advanced settings, provided 
an extender, only difference I note is that I don't have to yell hello multiple 
times before someone can hear me, otherwise still super slow internet speeds, 
answer landline and lose a download, reset modem/router six times in a week 
instead of once in two years.  Needed to move, no choices there, love the 
house, hate to phone services I am currently getting.  Cell tower less than 
half a mile from house, can be seen through trees out one window, so why 
doesn't it work!  

I hate giving up my e-mail address, one I have had for about 7 years, but may 
need to consider switching to Cox which seems to be the most used provider in 
the community here.  

Three weeks house on phones of both types, having technician come to the house 
and tell me all was well, when obviously it is not and was not is getting 
annoying.  

Sighted person who visit have no clue, think computer and phone will eat them 
alive, have no clue how to even go to the internet unless I open it, then turn 
off the screen-reader, then complain because I have a trackball instead of a 
mouse, my late husband's preference.  

Need a partially sighted or sighted person to be a friend who actually 
understands screen readers.  Not happening in this lifetime I suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't

Re: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Les Kriegler

Chip, another use for the nest thermostat is the ability to set the thermostat 
at home or away mode. This is really why I got a Wi-Fi thermostat to begin 
with. We have cold weather here. There's nothing worse than coming home to a 
cold house. When I find helpful with the Wi-Fi thermostats is a you can set 
your temperature while you're away and then change back to home mode and warm 
your house up when you get there. The same applies of course for cooling. This 
is all accessible through the nest app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
> thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
> the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not 
> (the Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with 
> an app you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app 
> indicates if you are at home or not using location services).
> 
> Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
> airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
> integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or 
> all of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
> increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house 
> feel much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.
> 
> In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
> into the HVAC called a humidifier.
> 
> It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
> thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
> to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
> heating?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

The extra wire maybe a 24 Volt line which you would need for Wi-Fi connected 
thermostats like the Nest and Radio Thermostat. When I put in my thermostat 
from RadioThermostat.com we actually had to run a new cable with 4 wires so I 
could use that thermostat.
If your talking thermostat doesn't require that wire you can just ignore it. If 
you don't have sighted help who knows how to do this you may just have to ask 
an installer to come by and hook it up for you, they'll know what to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there.  
If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I 
played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle 
of the night because I was having hot flashes!  Late husband woke up saying it 
was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat 
because I just pushed on the down button and held it.  He bought the talking 
thermostat after that, hours after that in fact.  
Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring y

RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-05 Thread Rose Combs

No, inquiring about any thermostat that may be set with an app, only if I 
cannot get my talking one from other house to work on this system, seems my new 
house has an extra wire, so my talking one does not currently work and is in a 
drawer waiting for a solution.  
It was a thought a cousin brought up as the "best solution" to use my phone.  
Since I seem to have poor phone service here, landline and cell I hope I don't 
need to do this.  
Clear as mud?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

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Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


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Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there.  
If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I 
played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle 
of the night because I was having hot flashes!  Late husband woke up saying it 
was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat 
because I just pushed on the down button and held it.  He bought the talking 
thermostat after that, hours after that in fact.  
Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is 
super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick 
in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the 
house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with 
your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 
outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to 
start up if it gets too cold.


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Chip Orange

I'm not sure, are you asking about Nest thermostats?  If so, they definitely 
require sighted help to setup all of these advanced features and schedules; and 
since you're often learning as you go, you really need sighted help living 
there or near-by, not just the installer.

Once a Nest is all setup, a blind person can adjust the temperature, but that's 
it.  I was offering information only for those with sighted live-in or close 
help.

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there.  
If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I 
played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle 
of the night because I was having hot flashes!  Late husband woke up saying it 
was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat 
because I just pushed on the down button and held it.  He bought the talking 
thermostat after that, hours after that in fact.  
Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is 
super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick 
in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the 
house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with 
your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 
outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to 
start up if it gets too cold.


Regards,
Sieghard

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englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer to 
that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


Thanks,
Ari

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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Chip Orange

I suspect your old talking one may work, although you will need to know if you 
have a single or dual stage thermostat, and separate from that will it handle 
heat pumps (if that's what you have).  I really think you'll need a 
professional to install it, and he'll need the installation manual for the 
taling thermostat (which you can probably download and print if you no longer 
have it).

Chip



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Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Good to know, hopefully I will not need to go there.  I am alone with sighted 
help occasionally but, help that seems to be unable to explain well what I'd 
need to know.  

My late husband would have been able to control and explain for me but other 
family members just can't seem to picture what they would want to know if only 
they could hear the words or see it one character at a time instead of the 
whole picture.  

I thought bringing my old talking one here would work, and if we get the wiring 
figured out it might but I am not holding my breath.  That is not my luck.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I am not answering the question you asked, but I want to say that as a blind 
person, you'll need quite a bit of sighted help in order to use the Nest 
thermostat.  There are many of its functions which are not accessible.

I have a sighted wife, so once we got all the setup accomplished, I am able to 
check and modify the temperature for the Nest via its IOS app or via an Echo 
and a skill, but I cannot program schedules, set advanced features, or even 
deal with error messages which will only appear on the Nest thermostat itself.

Good luck,

Chip


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englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:34 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer to 
that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


Thanks,
Ari

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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Rose Combs

So, do they all, and I do mean all, work on the latest iPhone app!  Can I do it 
living alone.  I suspect the answer to that question is absolutely no, which 
means that unless I have absolutely no choice I don't want to go there.  
If it only halfway works, I might as well go back to the old guessing game I 
played before the talking thermostat even if I once set it at 60 in the middle 
of the night because I was having hot flashes!  Late husband woke up saying it 
was winter again, LOL and I suggested he might want to check the thermostat 
because I just pushed on the down button and held it.  He bought the talking 
thermostat after that, hours after that in fact.  
Ladies of a certain age will understand the hot flashes syndrome.  


Rose Combs
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Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is 
super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick 
in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the 
house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with 
your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 
outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to 
start up if it gets too cold.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer to 
that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


Thanks,
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Rose Combs

Good to know, hopefully I will not need to go there.  I am alone with sighted 
help occasionally but, help that seems to be unable to explain well what I'd 
need to know.  

My late husband would have been able to control and explain for me but other 
family members just can't seem to picture what they would want to know if only 
they could hear the words or see it one character at a time instead of the 
whole picture.  

I thought bringing my old talking one here would work, and if we get the wiring 
figured out it might but I am not holding my breath.  That is not my luck.  


Rose Combs
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Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

I am not answering the question you asked, but I want to say that as a blind 
person, you'll need quite a bit of sighted help in order to use the Nest 
thermostat.  There are many of its functions which are not accessible.

I have a sighted wife, so once we got all the setup accomplished, I am able to 
check and modify the temperature for the Nest via its IOS app or via an Echo 
and a skill, but I cannot program schedules, set advanced features, or even 
deal with error messages which will only appear on the Nest thermostat itself.

Good luck,

Chip


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So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer to 
that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


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Re: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Lelia Struve

Has anyone heard of a brand of thermostat called the Napoleon? And if so does 
anybody know if there's an app for it,  I can't find one but that doesn't mean 
anything.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
> thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
> the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not 
> (the Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with 
> an app you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app 
> indicates if you are at home or not using location services).
> 
> Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
> airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
> integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or 
> all of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
> increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house 
> feel much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.
> 
> In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
> into the HVAC called a humidifier.
> 
> It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
> thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
> to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
> heating?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Chip Orange

In addition to this good answer for standard thermostat functions, advanced 
thermostats such as the Nest will allow you to program schedules for changing 
the temperature based on both time of day and whether you are home or not (the 
Nest can tell if you are at home with a built-in motion sensor, and with an app 
you put on your phone, along with your home location, so the app indicates if 
you are at home or not using location services).

Also, the Nest can manage the humidity level in your house using the 
airconditioning, or a multi-speed air handler, or even a separate device 
integrated to the airconditioning called a dehumidifier.  It can use any or all 
of these methods, and each has its own advantages, and the last two have 
increased costs.  In humid climates like Florida, this can make your house feel 
much more comfortable without making it feel too cold.

In very dry climates, the Nest can also manage a separate device integrated 
into the HVAC called a humidifier.

It's all of these advanced features which caused us to purchase two Nest 
thermostats, even though they are not very accessible for me.

Hth,

Chip


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thermostat confusion.

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is 
super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick 
in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the 
house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with 
your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 
outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to 
start up if it gets too cold.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer to 
that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


Thanks,
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-04 Thread Chip Orange

I am not answering the question you asked, but I want to say that as a blind 
person, you'll need quite a bit of sighted help in order to use the Nest 
thermostat.  There are many of its functions which are not accessible.

I have a sighted wife, so once we got all the setup accomplished, I am able to 
check and modify the temperature for the Nest via its IOS app or via an Echo 
and a skill, but I cannot program schedules, set advanced features, or even 
deal with error messages which will only appear on the Nest thermostat itself.

Good luck,

Chip


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So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
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that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


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Re: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-02 Thread englishrider91

No, I was talking about the ones from Radio Thermostat. Thanks, though.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> If you are talking about thermostats.com the cheaper unit is for single stage 
> systems and the model 3000 will work with both single and two stage systems.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> I went to the website, but couldn't find out a lot of information about them. 
> For instance, I'm not really certain what the differences are between the two 
> options. Do you know of any podcasts out there that demonstrate either 
> thermostat and the app?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is 
>> like the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, just 
>> less expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these at home 
>> and 2 at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the main floor 
>> and first floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 years now. I 
>> am not saying that Nest is no good, but just mentioned 
>> www.RadioThermostat.com as an alternative and one that was one of the first 
>> and I know that in the States you can buy the thermostats at Home Depot for 
>> around $100; at least I read this in some posts from list members who said 
>> so.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.
>> 
>> I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
>> different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like 
>> the Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
>> Thermostats?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ari,
>>> 
>>> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
>>> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and 
>>> also work very well.
>>> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
>>> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
>>> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
>>> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
>>> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
>>> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause 
>>> your air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 
>>> degrees, once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 
>>> it will turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you 
>>> set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 
>>> 70 degrees by causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
>>> 
>>> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
>>> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this 
>>> one, but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really 
>>> understand how thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What 
>>> does setting the temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? 
>>> And is the answer to that question different when you're talking about air 
>>> conditioning versus heating?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
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Re: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-01 Thread Andy Baracco

If you are talking about thermostats.com the cheaper unit is for single 
stage systems and the model 3000 will work with both single and two stage 
systems.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

I went to the website, but couldn't find out a lot of information about 
them. For instance, I'm not really certain what the differences are between 
the two options. Do you know of any podcasts out there that demonstrate 
either thermostat and the app?



Thanks,
Ari


On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is 
like the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, 
just less expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these 
at home and 2 at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the 
main floor and first floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 
years now. I am not saying that Nest is no good, but just mentioned 
www.RadioThermostat.com as an alternative and one that was one of the 
first and I know that in the States you can buy the thermostats at Home 
Depot for around $100; at least I read this in some posts from list 
members who said so.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like 
the Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
Thermostats?



Thanks,
Ari


On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and 
also work very well.
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set 
it to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may 
get cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat 
to 70 Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will 
cause your air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 
670 degrees, once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 
or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. 
If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat 
maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to start up if it gets 
too cold.



Regards,
Sieghard

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Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those 
thermostats from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried 
googling this one, but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I 
don't really understand how thermostats work. Not mechanically, but 
practically. What does setting the temperature of the thermostat to 70 
degrees actually mean? And is the answer to that question different when 
you're talking about air conditioning versus heating?



Thanks,
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Re: Thermostat confusion.

2016-08-01 Thread englishrider91

I went to the website, but couldn't find out a lot of information about them. 
For instance, I'm not really certain what the differences are between the two 
options. Do you know of any podcasts out there that demonstrate either 
thermostat and the app?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is like 
> the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, just less 
> expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these at home and 2 
> at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the main floor and first 
> floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 years now. I am not 
> saying that Nest is no good, but just mentioned www.RadioThermostat.com as an 
> alternative and one that was one of the first and I know that in the States 
> you can buy the thermostats at Home Depot for around $100; at least I read 
> this in some posts from list members who said so.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
> different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like 
> the Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
> Thermostats?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ari,
>> 
>> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
>> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
>> work very well. 
>> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
>> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
>> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
>> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
>> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
>> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
>> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, 
>> once the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will 
>> turn off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 
>> 70 degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees 
>> by causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
>> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
>> 
>> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
>> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
>> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand 
>> how thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting 
>> the temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the 
>> answer to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning 
>> versus heating?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-07-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

As mentioned it is a Wi-Fi connected thermostat and it has an app. It is like 
the Nest thermostat, a piece of hardware and an app to control it, just less 
expensive and from a different company. I Have had one of these at home and 2 
at my retail business which has separate furnaces on the main floor and first 
floor and they've been working perfectly for 3 or 4 years now. I am not saying 
that Nest is no good, but just mentioned www.RadioThermostat.com as an 
alternative and one that was one of the first and I know that in the States you 
can buy the thermostats at Home Depot for around $100; at least I read this in 
some posts from list members who said so.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 5:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thermostat confusion.

I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like the 
Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
Thermostats?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:34 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Thermostat confusion.
> 
> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
> to that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
> heating?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: Thermostat confusion.

2016-07-31 Thread englishrider91

I'll have to check out that other thermostat you mentioned. What makes it 
different from the ones I mentioned? Can it interface with my iPhone, like the 
Nest one, or is it just a standalone unit, like the one from Talking 
Thermostats?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ari,
> 
> You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
> www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
> work very well. 
> As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it 
> to and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air 
> conditioner when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets 
> pretty hot in the summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get 
> cold in the winter requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 
> Fahrenheit and it is super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your 
> air conditioner to kick in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once 
> the temperature in the house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn 
> off. The same happens with your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 
> degrees and it's only 40 outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by 
> causing the furnace to start up if it gets too cold.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats 
> from talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, 
> but I don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
> thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
> temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer 
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RE: Thermostat confusion.

2016-07-31 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi Ari,

You may also want to consider the Wi-Fi thermostat from 
www.RadioThermostat.com. They are less expensive than the Nest ones and also 
work very well. 
As for what a thermostat does, it maintains whatever temperature you set it to 
and if you have air conditioning this also means starting your air conditioner 
when it gets too hot. Let's say you live in a place that gets pretty hot in the 
summer and you have air conditioning, but it also may get cold in the winter 
requiring you to heat. If you set your thermostat to 70 Fahrenheit and it is 
super hot in the summer, the thermostat will cause your air conditioner to kick 
in if it gets a degree or two above 670 degrees, once the temperature in the 
house is back down to around 69 or 70 it will turn off. The same happens with 
your furnace in the winter. If you set it to 70 degrees and it's only 40 
outside, the thermostat maintains the 70 degrees by causing the furnace to 
start up if it gets too cold.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Thermostat confusion.

So, after we move, I'm thinking of getting either one of those thermostats from 
talkingthermostats.com or a Nest thermostat. I tried googling this one, but I 
don't seem to be getting a proper answer. I don't really understand how 
thermostats work. Not mechanically, but practically. What does setting the 
temperature of the thermostat to 70 degrees actually mean? And is the answer to 
that question different when you're talking about air conditioning versus 
heating?


Thanks,
Ari

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