RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey guys and girls,

Can we pull the plug on this now,
Be for the world gets out of hand anymore than it is.

 Things like this arent' worth getting waund up about.

 So lets ignore it and move on.

There are already enough wars in this world 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 11:36 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Richard; as you may or may not know I have the upmost respect for you. I enjoy 
reading your post as well as other people‘s posts. I’ve learned a lot from you 
byreading your posts and I would never insult you or do anything that would 
hurt you. We all have to lift up one another and help one another. Take care 
God bless Anthony 

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anthony,
> Thanks for clearing that up.
> In the future be sure to state you are kidding somewhere in your message, or 
> indeed, your reputation will go into the toilet.
>  
> And, I know I need no one’s permission, I’m a stubborn/independent sole. 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
> to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on 
> contributing to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my 
> reputation so Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need 
> my permission or anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
> one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>  
> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
> their time.
>  
> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
> things in which I am interested.
>  
> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
> working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
> because the technology is so much better now.
>  
> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
> wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
> well spent.
>  
> Richard
> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Richard Turner]

Anthony,

Thanks for clearing that up.

In the future be sure to state you are kidding somewhere in your message, or 
indeed, your reputation will go into the toilet.

 

And, I know I need no one’s permission, I’m a stubborn/independent sole. 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

 

I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on contributing 
to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my reputation so 
Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need my permission or 
anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
one’s use of time; but here I am again.

 

First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with their 
time.

 

Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
things in which I am interested.

 

Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
because the technology is so much better now.

 

Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
well spent.

 

Richard

“If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on contributing 
to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my reputation so 
Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need my permission or 
anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message 
>> about one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>>  
>> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
>> their time.
>>  
>> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
>> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
>> things in which I am interested.
>>  
>> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I 
>> was working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good 
>> thing, because the technology is so much better now.
>>  
>> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that 
>> I wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time 
>> very well spent.
>>  
>> Richard
>> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
>> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Les Kriegler]

Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
> one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>  
> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
> their time.
>  
> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
> things in which I am interested.
>  
> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
> working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
> because the technology is so much better now.
>  
> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
> wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
> well spent.
>  
> Richard
> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to include appropriate emojis if you are joking or want to convey 
other intentions.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: December 29, 2021 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

And, I was writing tongue and check.
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
Correct
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
people may sleep and eat a lot 

Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard felt 
his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



I agree Gordan.



I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot.

He is completely wrong.











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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



Totally uncalled for.



On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony

>

> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

>

>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers 
>> mailto:gdbow...@att.net>> wrote:

>>

>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner

>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

>>

>> Greetings,

>>

>>

>>

>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

>>

>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.

>>

>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

>>

>>

>>

>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.

>>

>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

>>

>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.

>>

>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.

>>

>>

>>

>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

>>

>>

>>

>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

>>

>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

>>

>> The scanning results are quite excellent.

>>

>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the tw

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Richard Turner]

I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
one’s use of time; but here I am again.

 

First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with their 
time.

 

Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
things in which I am interested.

 

Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
because the technology is so much better now.

 

Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
well spent.

 

Richard

“If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

And, I was writing tongue and check.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Correct
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
>> errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course 
>> some people may sleep and eat a lot 
>> Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard 
>> felt his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>  
>> I agree Gordan.
>>  
>> I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot. 
>> He is completely wrong.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>  
>> Totally uncalled for.
>>  
>> On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
>> > Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
>> > that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. 
>> > I mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around 
>> > the house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much 
>> > time on their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or 
>> > later you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from 
>> > other people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the 
>> > iPhone. Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> > 
>> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>> >> 
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> >> Richard Turner
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>> >> 
>> >> Greetings,
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> >> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I 
>> >> got to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> >> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>> >> 
>> >> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> >> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it 
>> >> spiral bound.
>> >> 
>> >> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, 
>> >> Voice Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> >> choice.
>> >> 
>> >> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book 
>> >> spiral bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing 
>> >> pages at once.
>> >> 
>> >> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> >> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image 
>> >> button, positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of 
>> >> the stand, with a single page facing up.
>> >> 
>> >> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> >> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> >> and repeated.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice 
>> >> Dream Reader, 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Correct

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
> errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
> people may sleep and eat a lot 
> Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard 
> felt his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> I agree Gordan.
>  
> I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot. 
> He is completely wrong.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> Totally uncalled for.
>  
> On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> > Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> > that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> > mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> > house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time 
> > on their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> > you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> > people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> > Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> > 
> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> >> Richard Turner
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
> >> 
> >> Greetings,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
> >> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
> >> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
> >> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
> >> 
> >> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
> >> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
> >> bound.
> >> 
> >> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, 
> >> Voice Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
> >> choice.
> >> 
> >> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book 
> >> spiral bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing 
> >> pages at once.
> >> 
> >> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
> >> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image 
> >> button, positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of 
> >> the stand, with a single page facing up.
> >> 
> >> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
> >> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
> >> and repeated.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice 
> >> Dream Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
> >> 
> >> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
> >> 
> >> The scanning results are quite excellent.
> >> 
> >> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
> >> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles 
> >> and scattered which

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
people may sleep and eat a lot 

Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard felt 
his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



I agree Gordan.



I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot.

He is completely wrong.











-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



Totally uncalled for.



On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony

>

> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

>

>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers 
>> mailto:gdbow...@att.net>> wrote:

>>

>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner

>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

>>

>> Greetings,

>>

>>

>>

>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

>>

>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.

>>

>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

>>

>>

>>

>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.

>>

>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

>>

>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.

>>

>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.

>>

>>

>>

>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

>>

>>

>>

>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

>>

>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

>>

>> The scanning results are quite excellent.

>>

>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
>> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.

>>

>>

>>

>> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
>> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
>> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
>> fictional that would be rendered fic-

>>

>> tional.

>>

>> Assumi

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Dennis Long]

 If Anthony sent this to the Phones for the blind list which I own he would be 
moderated immediately.  We have 3 owners/ moderators  myself, Stephen Giggar 
and Allan Lemly.   This is the kind of topic I would like to see on that list.  
Awesome job Richard and Thank you for sharing.  For anyone that wants to 
subscribe to my list you can send a message to 
phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[alia robinson]

tell me about it.

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Totally uncalled for.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[alia robinson]

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Richard Turner]

I agree Gordan.

I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot.  
He is completely wrong.





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>>
>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>>
>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.
>>
>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.
>>
>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.
>>
>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.
>>
>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.
>>
>>
>>
>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
>>
>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
>>
>> The scanning results are quite excellent.
>>
>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
>> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
>> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
>> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
>> fictional that would be rendered fic-
>>
>> tional.
>>
>> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
>> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
>>
>> That is damn good in my book.
>>
>> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
>> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
>> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
>>
>> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
>> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the 
>> accuracy when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
>> this done about 43 years ago.
>>
>> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
>> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[llumpkin]

I think he was being tongue in cheek but probably needed to say so.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>>
>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>>
>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.
>>
>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.
>>
>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.
>>
>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.
>>
>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.
>>
>>
>>
>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
>>
>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
>>
>> The scanning results are quite excellent.
>>
>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
>> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
>> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
>> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
>> fictional that would be rendered fic-
>>
>> tional.
>>
>> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
>> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
>>
>> That is damn good in my book.
>>
>> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
>> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
>> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
>>
>> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
>> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the 
>> accuracy when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
>> this done about 43 years ago.
>>
>> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
>> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
>> inches thick and a pain to f

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Gordon]

Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job that 
you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I mean I 
have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the house. I 
can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on their hands 
glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later you’re going to 
need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other people it’s just 
truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. Sit back relax and 
enjoy life. Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:

Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Greetings,



I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.



I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.



I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.



After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.



Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.



In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic-

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.



For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano.

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.



You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.



Later,



Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin



My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job that 
you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I mean I 
have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the house. I 
can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on their hands 
glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later you’re going to 
need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other people it’s just 
truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. Sit back relax and 
enjoy life. Anthony 

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> 
> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to 
> the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” 
> by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  
> 
> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
> bound.
> 
> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
> 
> 
> 
> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
> choice.
> 
> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
> 
> 
> 
> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once. 
>  
> 
> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
> with a single page facing up.
> 
> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
> repeated.
> 
> 
> 
> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
> 
> 
> 
> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
> 
> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
> 
> The scanning results are quite excellent.
> 
> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
> 
> 
> 
> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
> fictional that would be rendered fic- 
> 
> tional.
> 
> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
> 
> That is damn good in my book.
> 
> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
> 
> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
> when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
> 
> 
> 
> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
> this done about 43 years ago.
> 
> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
> inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.
> 
> So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back 
> binding, and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.
> 
> It wasbrilliant!
> 
> Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, 
> has been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they 
> would lie flat on the piano. 
> 
> Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
> binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.
> 
> I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.
> 
> They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.
> 
> Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.
> 
> 
> 
> You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature 
> in Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the 
> width I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.
> 
> 
> 
> Later,
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Mo]

Hi, enjoyed reading about the scanner here. what is the voice dream list that 
was mentioned previously? If related to the apps would be interested. Is is an 
email list?

Thank you.

Mo.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 28 December 2021 19:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

 

Greetings,

 

I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

 

I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

 

I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.  

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.

 

After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

 

Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.

 

In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic- 

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.

 

For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano. 

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.

 

You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.

 

Later,

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

 

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Gary Bowers]

Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Greetings,

 

I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

 

I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

 

I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.  

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.

 

After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

 

Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.

 

In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic- 

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.

 

For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano. 

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.

 

You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.

 

Later,

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

 

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