Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Alison May]

I am talking about the blind down menu which has various options.

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> On 7 Apr 2021, at 5:27 am, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi what menu are you talking about?  Janet
> 
>> On 06/04/2021 21:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
>> Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but 
>> then discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu.
>> Alison
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
>> Bell
>> Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
>> landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
>> have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet
>> 
>>> On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
>>> touch. From Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
>>> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
>>> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>>> 
>>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded
>>>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not
>>>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use
>>>> the standard text entry.
>>>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it
>>>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>>>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says
>>>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct
>>>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
>>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Brad Snyder
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>>> 
>>>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>>>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last
>>>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>>>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>>>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>>>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says
>>>> “direct touch area.”
>>>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you
>>>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
>>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site,
>>>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
>>>> ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61
>>>> a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425
>>>> 18223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi
>>>> LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P4
>>>> 7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Esther, glad I could help its just a shame it doesn't work for me Janet

On 06/04/2021 21:14, Esther wrote:
hi, Janet and everyone, thank you all for your comments and 
suggestions. Janet, your suggestion worked.


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On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:



Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get 
to direct touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it 
off and vice versa.  hope that helps a bit Janet


On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?

- Original Message -
*From:* Esther 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
*Subject:* adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to
the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some
reason it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing
wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or anything. I
would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi what menu are you talking about?  Janet

On 06/04/2021 21:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but then 
discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu.
Alison
  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded
me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not
show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use
the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it
says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says
Direct Touch area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct
Touch in iOS 1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last
item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says
“direct touch area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you
flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61
a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425
18223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi
LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P4
7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not
stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there
was a save button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks 
a bunch.
Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[CJ & AA MAY]

Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but then 
discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu.
Alison
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just 
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good 
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use 
>> the standard text entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says 
>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct 
>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last 
>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
>> “direct touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
>> ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61
>> a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425
>> 18223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi
>> LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P4
>> 7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not 
>&

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

hi, Janet and everyone, thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Janet, 
your suggestion worked. 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to direct 
> touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and vice versa.  
> hope that helps a bit Janet
> 
> On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
>> Esther
>> 
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

thanks for the tip. It was a big help. Take care.

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to direct 
> touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and vice versa.  
> hope that helps a bit Janet
> 
> On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
>> Esther
>> 
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

RS games is also self voicing. Esther I RS Games is also self voicing. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
> only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
> fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
> Bell
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
> landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
> have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet
> 
>> On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
>> touch. From Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
>> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
>> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>> 
>>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>>> entry.
>>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>>> area.  Things just work.
>>> 
>>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>>> Snyder
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>>> touch area.”
>>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Esther
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

I get the same thing in RS Games. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
> 
>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>> 
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
>> Esther
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Carolyn]

I can't see how Direct Touch would be good for someone totally blind, but 
possibly people with partial sight might prefer it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just type in 
text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good for a blind 
person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the 
> standard text entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct 
> Touch area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch 
> in iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Brad Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item 
> in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
> “direct touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=ht
> tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a0
> 8d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425182
> 23178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3
> jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not 
> stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there 
> was a save button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. 
> Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

Do you have the accessibility shortcut set to triple tap the home button or 
side switch to turn VoiceOver on or off?
If so, start the game, and turn off VoiceOver.

If not, tell Siri to turn off VoiceOver, then tell Siri Goodbye so it gets off 
the screen and you are in your game.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just 
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good 
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use 
>> the standard text entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says 
>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct 
>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b50w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedw
>> vzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.out
>> look.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C
>> 30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7
>> C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM
>> DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b5
>> 0w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedwvzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last 
>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
>> “direct touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b50w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedw
>> vzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.out
>> look.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fda

RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what 

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet


On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
iOS 1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
touch area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
up to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!



On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Mich Verrier]

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

I don’t use much of the blindfold games, the one I use doesn’t involve any text 
entry.
Is this game self-voicing?  If so, Unload VoiceOver.

If not, then Direct Touch should show up in the rotor and you can turn the 
rotor to it and flick up and then turn the rotor away from that so you don’t 
toggle it back off and you are supposed to be able to continue with the game.
If not, you absolutely need to contact both the developer and Apple 
Accessibility.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor


Hi Richard sometimes when you are playing blindfold games or other games you're 
screen keeps saying direct touch and you can't go anywhere else so do you know 
how to stop that from happening?  Janet
On 05/04/2021 16:59, Richard Turner wrote:
What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it was 
there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the rotor 
unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says 
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch 
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in iOS 
1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4d0efc08934f90726108d8f8501149%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532370055223908%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=BAIeup61EMB7L2kxyuUOccaeOJW0hEJwx1VZeLfv290%3D=0>



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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4d0efc08934f90726108d8f8501149%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532370055233872%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Bmahoqnr46yQ52H%2B7sjsQPaTWyQgttqpFVnkiG1yzOo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!




On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Richard sometimes when you are playing blindfold games or other games 
you're screen keeps saying direct touch and you can't go anywhere else 
so do you know how to stop that from happening? Janet


On 05/04/2021 16:59, Richard Turner wrote:


What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the 
standard text entry.


But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.


I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct 
Touch area.  Things just work.


Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch 
in iOS 1.4.4?


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com>

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Brad Snyder

*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.

On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item 
in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.


- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:




I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.

It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.

If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.

You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
“direct touch area.”


If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Esther

*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!




On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?

- Original Message -

*From:*Esther <mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Sent:*Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM

*Subject:*adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added
to the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some
reason it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing
wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or anything. I
would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Janet Bell]

Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to 
direct touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and 
vice versa.  hope that helps a bit Janet


On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?

- Original Message -
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
*Subject:* adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to
the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason
it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I
didn't think there was a save button or anything. I would
appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
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>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it was 
there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the rotor 
unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says 
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch 
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in iOS 
1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!



On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
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From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Brad Snyder]

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.

- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner  wrote:


I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
 
no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
 
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:


Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
 
hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Richard Turner]

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Esther]

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
> Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Robert Doc Wright]

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
  Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor


  hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther


  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

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