RE: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Pablo Morales]

hold down the power button. You will hear the siri sound announcing that you 
can say a command.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Billy Maynard
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

hi,

quick question how does one on the X invoke seri?
- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Worrell" <blindworr...@gmail.com>
To: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...


Hello,

Yes. You can infect use the side button, formally the sleep/wake button to 
start VoiceOver the first time the X is turned on. I set up the X without 
any assistance from my sighted spouse.

HTH

Ed

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Rafal <rafal.luk...@interia.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi Ed i have a question about iphone x, let me know if the iphone is new, 
> not configured, whether voiceover is starting during configuration wizard 
> using 3times power like in iphone 7 home?
> Greetings and all the best.
> -Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: iPhone X and first impressions...
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of 
> this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my 
> first iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go 
> back to this design.
>
> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I 
> went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the 
> iPhone interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over 
> again. I am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home 
> buttonless interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had 
> the device. After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to 
> the Notification Center or the control center  has become second nature.
>
> Closing apps….
>
> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch 
> screen (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping 
> sound, and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You 
> then start to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel 
> another pop. This second pop will indicate that you have performed the 
> exit gesture properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.
>
> Opening the App Switcher….
> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
> touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen 
> just like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same 
> indicators as exiting an application, this time though you will keep 
> draggingg past the exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep 
> dragging up to about the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and 
> feel another indication letting you know that you are now opening the app 
> switcher. Now you can use the typical gestures you normally use to close 
> apps completely.
>
> Control Center and Notification Center…
>
> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like 
> exiting apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the 
> top of the screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you 
> will hear and feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag 
> down and you will hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are 
> passing the control center, stop dragging if you want to activate the 
> control center, keep dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the 
> Notification Center. Once you are in either the Control center or the 
> Notification Center you can use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.
>
>
> Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
> The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
> water is fine.
>
> Ed Worrell
>
> Co-Founder/CEO
> OverHere Consulting LLP
> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
> Https://overhereconsulting.net
> Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
> Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast
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Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

quick question how does one on the X invoke seri?
- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Worrell" <blindworr...@gmail.com>

To: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...


Hello,

Yes. You can infect use the side button, formally the sleep/wake button to 
start VoiceOver the first time the X is turned on. I set up the X without 
any assistance from my sighted spouse.


HTH

Ed


On Dec 5, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Rafal <rafal.luk...@interia.eu> wrote:

Hi Ed i have a question about iphone x, let me know if the iphone is new, 
not configured, whether voiceover is starting during configuration wizard 
using 3times power like in iphone 7 home?

Greetings and all the best.
-Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Ed Worrell
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:49 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: iPhone X and first impressions...

Hello All,

I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of 
this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my 
first iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go 
back to this design.


I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I 
went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the 
iPhone interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over 
again. I am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home 
buttonless interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had 
the device. After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to 
the Notification Center or the control center  has become second nature.


Closing apps….

To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch 
screen (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping 
sound, and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You 
then start to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel 
another pop. This second pop will indicate that you have performed the 
exit gesture properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.


Opening the App Switcher….
To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen 
just like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same 
indicators as exiting an application, this time though you will keep 
draggingg past the exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep 
dragging up to about the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and 
feel another indication letting you know that you are now opening the app 
switcher. Now you can use the typical gestures you normally use to close 
apps completely.


Control Center and Notification Center…

Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like 
exiting apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the 
top of the screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you 
will hear and feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag 
down and you will hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are 
passing the control center, stop dragging if you want to activate the 
control center, keep dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the 
Notification Center. Once you are in either the Control center or the 
Notification Center you can use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.



Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
water is fine.


Ed Worrell

Co-Founder/CEO
OverHere Consulting LLP
“Bringing Technology into Sight”
Https://overhereconsulting.net
Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast

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Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

Yes. You can infect use the side button, formally the sleep/wake button to 
start VoiceOver the first time the X is turned on. I set up the X without any 
assistance from my sighted spouse.

HTH

Ed

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Rafal  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed i have a question about iphone x, let me know if the iphone is new, not 
> configured, whether voiceover is starting during configuration wizard using 
> 3times power like in iphone 7 home?
> Greetings and all the best.
> -Oryginalna wiadomość- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: iPhone X and first impressions...
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of this 
> phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
> iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
> this design.
> 
> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I went 
> with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
> interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I am 
> completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless 
> interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. 
> After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification 
> Center or the control center  has become second nature.
> 
> Closing apps….
> 
> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
> (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, 
> and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start 
> to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. 
> This second pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture 
> properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.
> 
> Opening the App Switcher….
> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
> touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
> like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
> exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the 
> exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep dragging up to about 
> the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and feel another indication 
> letting you know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use 
> the typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.
> 
> Control Center and Notification Center…
> 
> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like exiting 
> apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the top of the 
> screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you will hear and 
> feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag down and you will 
> hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are passing the control 
> center, stop dragging if you want to activate the control center, keep 
> dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the Notification Center. 
> Once you are in either the Control center or the Notification Center you can 
> use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.
> 
> 
> Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
> The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
> water is fine.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> Co-Founder/CEO
> OverHere Consulting LLP
> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
> Https://overhereconsulting.net
> Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
> Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast
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Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Rafal]

Hi Ed i have a question about iphone x, let me know if the iphone is new, 
not configured, whether voiceover is starting during configuration wizard 
using 3times power like in iphone 7 home?

Greetings and all the best.
-Oryginalna wiadomość- 
From: Ed Worrell

Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:49 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: iPhone X and first impressions...

Hello All,

I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of 
this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
this design.


I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I 
went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I 
am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless 
interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. 
After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification 
Center or the control center  has become second nature.


Closing apps….

To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
(The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, 
and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start 
to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. 
This second pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture 
properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.


Opening the App Switcher….
To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the 
exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep dragging up to about 
the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and feel another indication 
letting you know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use 
the typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.


Control Center and Notification Center…

Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like 
exiting apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the 
top of the screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you 
will hear and feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag down 
and you will hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are passing the 
control center, stop dragging if you want to activate the control center, 
keep dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the Notification 
Center. Once you are in either the Control center or the Notification Center 
you can use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.



Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
water is fine.


Ed Worrell

Co-Founder/CEO
OverHere Consulting LLP
“Bringing Technology into Sight”
Https://overhereconsulting.net
Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast

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Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Andy Baracco]

Jonathan Mosen devoted an episode of his Blind Side podcast to the iPhone X, 
and he devoted several minutes to the process of setting up face ID and 
developed some tetechniques to make the process easier. This is also 
extensively covered in his book, "IOS 11 Without the Eye".

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: phillip tracy 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 3:35 AM
  Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...


  Hey folks, this may work even better for you, that's one hell of an awkward 
angle. Try face ID with right hand only, left hand completely out of play 
unless you actually are left handed, and if you are, they have an attachment 
you can buy for maybe $15 or $20 that attaches to the bottom so you have better 
left handed control. I actually found that holding the device in my right hand, 
using my right thumb to press the side button gave me the best results.


  Phillip Tracy 
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:27 AM, phillip tracy <tracyp4...@msn.com> wrote:


Hi Scott and all. I had an interesting and frustrating experience with 
FEDEX that made me miss launch day with iPhone X, even though it was only a 
mile away from me in a storage bin by 7 PM, I ended up having to go down and 
fight for it because they weren't going to deliver it until Monday and it was a 
launch day guarantee, I brought it home the afternoon after launch day, which 
was fine, it made me a happy guy. 


Here's what I think is happening here. The face ID appears to be on the 
right side of the phone direct opposite the rear camera area. Here's a little 
known fact, or trick, shall we say. After extensive research I found 
documentation requiring you to be able to fully open your eyes to get the most 
reliable experience with face ID, I am not able to fully open both eyes, left 
eye can not open at all, and right eye opens, sometimes, but rarely can I get 
any kind of consistency. For me, and for some of us, a moderate security 
compromise will need to be made. Before you may be forced into that though, 
switch the phone to your right hand, and unlock or double click the right side 
button with your left index or middle finger. Hold the phone still directly in 
front of your face about a foot. Make sure your phone is angled ever so 
slightly to where you are directly facing the right half of the phone. If this 
does not work, you will then need to take a nice little stroll over to 
settings, general, accessibility, face ID, and turn off the feature that makes 
face ID require to determine you're paying attention to the screen, it is the 
first of the two attention features in there. If you are fully able to open 
your eyes, you should not have to do this, but I have no choice.
Remember friends, there is another dirty little secret you should know 
about that should still make you feel secure, it did for me. Take another happy 
little venture on over to settings, emergency SOS, enable the 5 click power 
button, or side button as we now call it, feature, do not, I stress again, do 
not overlook the emergency auto call. It is also in there and you should turn 
it off, that gives you the ability to disable face ID in a snap by rapidly 
clicking the right side button 5 times, a most excellent feature if your enemy 
is trying to force you to look at your phone to unlock it. The Apple folks 
thought of every possible security situation, one of the reasons I love these 
guys so, so much! Long live the future, this damn thing is a beautiful, 
beautiful piece, mine's a silver 256 and for me, its perfect. Perfect! Woot 
woot! It really is ok guys, it really is! Smaller than the plus, bigger than 
the standard, not too bulky, great battery life if you properly manage the 
settings, the perfect phone! I have wanted all these features since the 4S and 
finally, they're here!


Phillip Tracy 
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:


  I haven’t used this method of getting to control center or notifications. 
 I use the old way, it still works.  Touch the status bar, swipe up with 3 
fingers for controlcenter, swipe down with 3 fingers for notifications.  Don’t 
know if this was by design, or accident, but either way it still works.

On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hello All,



I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design 
of this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
this design.



I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I went 
with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s crafts

RE: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would consider myself to be a pretty advanced and experience iPhone user 
after 8 years of using the things, but when I played with an iPhone X in early 
November at the Apple Store in Calgary I found the same thing, I could not get 
the gesture to exit an app and return to the home screen to work until I 
finally realized I was doing it too slowly. Once I had that figured out I could 
do it reliably and quickly 100% of the time. As I said, it just means getting 
used to a few new things.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Apple Nerd
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

So I got to play around with one on Friday and I've noticed it's really 
sensitive. But I really like how it feels in the hand but the phone is kind of 
slippery. anyways, The main issue I was having was swiping up to the home 
screen. I was able to unlock the phone but in apps like messages I couldn't 
find the home indicator. but other than that I really love the phone even 
though I only had it for about 15 minutes. 

Sent from my iPod

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> While getting no benefit from the snazzy screen, I now understand why 
> some blind people would spend the extra money on the iPhone X. It is 
> futuristic. This will be the design and interface that will eventually 
> be incorporated into all iPhones. Some want to live the future now 
> rather than later.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 12/4/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> It's interesting how the lack of the home button and having to learn 
>> the new gestures seems to bother some people a lot. I think it's not 
>> so different from learning how to use a touch screen device in the 
>> first place, I know several people who fought it hand and foot, but 
>> when they finally had to choice and got an iPhone and learned how to 
>> use it they were for the most part completely happy with the way it 
>> works and how accessible it is. I think looking back a few years from 
>> now not having a home button and Touch Id any more will be the same 
>> thing, we may look back on it with some font memories but we'll have 
>> moved on and will be using the new devices with equal ease. I'm sure 
>> Apple won't stop making things better and easier even though I am 
>> equally sure we'll continue to deal with nasty bugs along the way and all 
>> that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Maslo
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...
>> 
>> Hi Scott, I loved the iPhone X. I had a working perfectly with Apple 
>> Pay and we're buying stuff from the App Store. It is fun and easy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using 
>>> mine for 2 weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at 
>>> hoe much I love using it. There is a little bit of a learning curve 
>>> with this phone but after you have it for an hour or so that 
>>> learning curve will be no more. Even my wife who is also blind was 
>>> very nervous about using an iPhone without a Home button but she took right 
>>> to it very quickly.
>>> 
>>> I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the 
>>> AppStore with FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash 
>>> earlier on my iPhone X I couldn’t use FaceID for that either . When 
>>> I try and use it with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to 
>>> Install or Double Click to pay but when I do that nothing happens. 
>>> Are you able to use these with FaceID on your phone?
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the 
>>>> design of this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I 
>>>> loved about my first iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for 
>>>> years for Apple to go back to this design.
>>>> 
>>>> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone 
>>&g

Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[phillip tracy]

Hey folks, this may work even better for you, that's one hell of an awkward 
angle. Try face ID with right hand only, left hand completely out of play 
unless you actually are left handed, and if you are, they have an attachment 
you can buy for maybe $15 or $20 that attaches to the bottom so you have better 
left handed control. I actually found that holding the device in my right hand, 
using my right thumb to press the side button gave me the best results.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:27 AM, phillip tracy 
> wrote:

Hi Scott and all. I had an interesting and frustrating experience with FEDEX 
that made me miss launch day with iPhone X, even though it was only a mile away 
from me in a storage bin by 7 PM, I ended up having to go down and fight for it 
because they weren't going to deliver it until Monday and it was a launch day 
guarantee, I brought it home the afternoon after launch day, which was fine, it 
made me a happy guy.

Here's what I think is happening here. The face ID appears to be on the right 
side of the phone direct opposite the rear camera area. Here's a little known 
fact, or trick, shall we say. After extensive research I found documentation 
requiring you to be able to fully open your eyes to get the most reliable 
experience with face ID, I am not able to fully open both eyes, left eye can 
not open at all, and right eye opens, sometimes, but rarely can I get any kind 
of consistency. For me, and for some of us, a moderate security compromise will 
need to be made. Before you may be forced into that though, switch the phone to 
your right hand, and unlock or double click the right side button with your 
left index or middle finger. Hold the phone still directly in front of your 
face about a foot. Make sure your phone is angled ever so slightly to where you 
are directly facing the right half of the phone. If this does not work, you 
will then need to take a nice little stroll over to settings, general, 
accessibility, face ID, and turn off the feature that makes face ID require to 
determine you're paying attention to the screen, it is the first of the two 
attention features in there. If you are fully able to open your eyes, you 
should not have to do this, but I have no choice.
Remember friends, there is another dirty little secret you should know about 
that should still make you feel secure, it did for me. Take another happy 
little venture on over to settings, emergency SOS, enable the 5 click power 
button, or side button as we now call it, feature, do not, I stress again, do 
not overlook the emergency auto call. It is also in there and you should turn 
it off, that gives you the ability to disable face ID in a snap by rapidly 
clicking the right side button 5 times, a most excellent feature if your enemy 
is trying to force you to look at your phone to unlock it. The Apple folks 
thought of every possible security situation, one of the reasons I love these 
guys so, so much! Long live the future, this damn thing is a beautiful, 
beautiful piece, mine's a silver 256 and for me, its perfect. Perfect! Woot 
woot! It really is ok guys, it really is! Smaller than the plus, bigger than 
the standard, not too bulky, great battery life if you properly manage the 
settings, the perfect phone! I have wanted all these features since the 4S and 
finally, they're here!

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Kliphton Miller 
> wrote:

I haven’t used this method of getting to control center or notifications.  I 
use the old way, it still works.  Touch the status bar, swipe up with 3 fingers 
for controlcenter, swipe down with 3 fingers for notifications.  Don’t know if 
this was by design, or accident, but either way it still works.
On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell 
> wrote:

Hello All,

I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of this 
phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first iPhone, 
the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to this design.

I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I went 
with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I am 
completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless interface 
was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. After that the 
gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification Center or the 
control center  has become second nature.

Closing apps….

To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
(The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, and 
you will also feel 

Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[phillip tracy]

Hi Scott and all. I had an interesting and frustrating experience with FEDEX 
that made me miss launch day with iPhone X, even though it was only a mile away 
from me in a storage bin by 7 PM, I ended up having to go down and fight for it 
because they weren't going to deliver it until Monday and it was a launch day 
guarantee, I brought it home the afternoon after launch day, which was fine, it 
made me a happy guy.

Here's what I think is happening here. The face ID appears to be on the right 
side of the phone direct opposite the rear camera area. Here's a little known 
fact, or trick, shall we say. After extensive research I found documentation 
requiring you to be able to fully open your eyes to get the most reliable 
experience with face ID, I am not able to fully open both eyes, left eye can 
not open at all, and right eye opens, sometimes, but rarely can I get any kind 
of consistency. For me, and for some of us, a moderate security compromise will 
need to be made. Before you may be forced into that though, switch the phone to 
your right hand, and unlock or double click the right side button with your 
left index or middle finger. Hold the phone still directly in front of your 
face about a foot. Make sure your phone is angled ever so slightly to where you 
are directly facing the right half of the phone. If this does not work, you 
will then need to take a nice little stroll over to settings, general, 
accessibility, face ID, and turn off the feature that makes face ID require to 
determine you're paying attention to the screen, it is the first of the two 
attention features in there. If you are fully able to open your eyes, you 
should not have to do this, but I have no choice.
Remember friends, there is another dirty little secret you should know about 
that should still make you feel secure, it did for me. Take another happy 
little venture on over to settings, emergency SOS, enable the 5 click power 
button, or side button as we now call it, feature, do not, I stress again, do 
not overlook the emergency auto call. It is also in there and you should turn 
it off, that gives you the ability to disable face ID in a snap by rapidly 
clicking the right side button 5 times, a most excellent feature if your enemy 
is trying to force you to look at your phone to unlock it. The Apple folks 
thought of every possible security situation, one of the reasons I love these 
guys so, so much! Long live the future, this damn thing is a beautiful, 
beautiful piece, mine's a silver 256 and for me, its perfect. Perfect! Woot 
woot! It really is ok guys, it really is! Smaller than the plus, bigger than 
the standard, not too bulky, great battery life if you properly manage the 
settings, the perfect phone! I have wanted all these features since the 4S and 
finally, they're here!

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Kliphton Miller 
> wrote:

I haven’t used this method of getting to control center or notifications.  I 
use the old way, it still works.  Touch the status bar, swipe up with 3 fingers 
for controlcenter, swipe down with 3 fingers for notifications.  Don’t know if 
this was by design, or accident, but either way it still works.
On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell 
> wrote:

Hello All,

I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of this 
phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first iPhone, 
the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to this design.

I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I went 
with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I am 
completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless interface 
was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. After that the 
gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification Center or the 
control center  has become second nature.

Closing apps….

To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
(The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, and 
you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start to drag 
your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. This second 
pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture properly, and you 
now should be back on your home screen.

Opening the App Switcher….
To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the exit 

Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Kliphton Miller]

I haven’t used this method of getting to control center or notifications.  I 
use the old way, it still works.  Touch the status bar, swipe up with 3 fingers 
for controlcenter, swipe down with 3 fingers for notifications.  Don’t know if 
this was by design, or accident, but either way it still works.
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of this 
> phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
> iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
> this design.
> 
> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I went 
> with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
> interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I am 
> completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless 
> interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. 
> After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification 
> Center or the control center  has become second nature. 
> 
> Closing apps….
> 
> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
> (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, 
> and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start 
> to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. 
> This second pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture 
> properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.
> 
> Opening the App Switcher….
> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
> touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
> like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
> exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the 
> exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep dragging up to about 
> the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and feel another indication 
> letting you know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use 
> the typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.
> 
> Control Center and Notification Center…
> 
> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like exiting 
> apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the top of the 
> screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you will hear and 
> feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag down and you will 
> hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are passing the control 
> center, stop dragging if you want to activate the control center, keep 
> dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the Notification Center. 
> Once you are in either the Control center or the Notification Center you can 
> use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.
> 
> 
> Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
> The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
> water is fine.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> Co-Founder/CEO
> OverHere Consulting LLP
> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
> Https://overhereconsulting.net
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Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Apple Nerd]

So I got to play around with one on Friday and I've noticed it's really 
sensitive. But I really like how it feels in the hand but the phone is kind of 
slippery. anyways, The main issue I was having was swiping up to the home 
screen. I was able to unlock the phone but in apps like messages I couldn't 
find the home indicator. but other than that I really love the phone even 
though I only had it for about 15 minutes. 

Sent from my iPod

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> While getting no benefit from the snazzy screen, I now understand why
> some blind people would spend the extra money on the iPhone X. It is
> futuristic. This will be the design and interface that will eventually
> be incorporated into all iPhones. Some want to live the future now
> rather than later.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 12/4/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> It's interesting how the lack of the home button and having to learn the new
>> gestures seems to bother some people a lot. I think it's not so different
>> from learning how to use a touch screen device in the first place, I know
>> several people who fought it hand and foot, but when they finally had to
>> choice and got an iPhone and learned how to use it they were for the most
>> part completely happy with the way it works and how accessible it is. I
>> think looking back a few years from now not having a home button and Touch
>> Id any more will be the same thing, we may look back on it with some font
>> memories but we'll have moved on and will be using the new devices with
>> equal ease. I'm sure Apple won't stop making things better and easier even
>> though I am equally sure we'll continue to deal with nasty bugs along the
>> way and all that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Michael Maslo
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...
>> 
>> Hi Scott, I loved the iPhone X. I had a working perfectly with Apple Pay and
>> we're buying stuff from the App Store. It is fun and easy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using mine
>>> for 2 weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at hoe much I
>>> love using it. There is a little bit of a learning curve with this phone
>>> but after you have it for an hour or so that learning curve will be no
>>> more. Even my wife who is also blind was very nervous about using an
>>> iPhone without a Home button but she took right to it very quickly.
>>> 
>>> I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the
>>> AppStore with FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash
>>> earlier on my iPhone X I couldn’t use FaceID for that either . When I try
>>> and use it with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to Install or
>>> Double Click to pay but when I do that nothing happens. Are you able to
>>> use these with FaceID on your phone?
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of
>>>> this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my
>>>> first iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go
>>>> back to this design.
>>>> 
>>>> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for
>>>> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I
>>>> went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the
>>>> iPhone interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over
>>>> again. I am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home
>>>> buttonless interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had
>>>> the device. After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to
>>>> the Notification Center or the control center  has become second nature.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Closing apps….
>>>> 
>>>> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch
>>&g

Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Kelly Pierce]

While getting no benefit from the snazzy screen, I now understand why
some blind people would spend the extra money on the iPhone X. It is
futuristic. This will be the design and interface that will eventually
be incorporated into all iPhones. Some want to live the future now
rather than later.

Kelly

On 12/4/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> It's interesting how the lack of the home button and having to learn the new
> gestures seems to bother some people a lot. I think it's not so different
> from learning how to use a touch screen device in the first place, I know
> several people who fought it hand and foot, but when they finally had to
> choice and got an iPhone and learned how to use it they were for the most
> part completely happy with the way it works and how accessible it is. I
> think looking back a few years from now not having a home button and Touch
> Id any more will be the same thing, we may look back on it with some font
> memories but we'll have moved on and will be using the new devices with
> equal ease. I'm sure Apple won't stop making things better and easier even
> though I am equally sure we'll continue to deal with nasty bugs along the
> way and all that.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Michael Maslo
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...
>
> Hi Scott, I loved the iPhone X. I had a working perfectly with Apple Pay and
> we're buying stuff from the App Store. It is fun and easy
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>>
>> I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using mine
>> for 2 weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at hoe much I
>> love using it. There is a little bit of a learning curve with this phone
>> but after you have it for an hour or so that learning curve will be no
>> more. Even my wife who is also blind was very nervous about using an
>> iPhone without a Home button but she took right to it very quickly.
>>
>> I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the
>> AppStore with FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash
>> earlier on my iPhone X I couldn’t use FaceID for that either . When I try
>> and use it with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to Install or
>> Double Click to pay but when I do that nothing happens. Are you able to
>> use these with FaceID on your phone?
>> Scott Rumery
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of
>>> this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my
>>> first iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go
>>> back to this design.
>>>
>>> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for
>>> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I
>>> went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the
>>> iPhone interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over
>>> again. I am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home
>>> buttonless interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had
>>> the device. After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to
>>> the Notification Center or the control center  has become second nature.
>>>
>>>
>>> Closing apps….
>>>
>>> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch
>>> screen (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little
>>> popping sound, and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as
>>> well. You then start to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear
>>> and feel  another pop. This second pop will indicate that you have
>>> performed the exit gesture properly, and you now should be back on your
>>> home screen.
>>>
>>> Opening the App Switcher….
>>> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of
>>> the touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the
>>> screen just like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same
>>> indicators as exiting an application, this time though you will keep
>>> draggingg past the exit app sound and haptic fe

RE: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's interesting how the lack of the home button and having to learn the new 
gestures seems to bother some people a lot. I think it's not so different from 
learning how to use a touch screen device in the first place, I know several 
people who fought it hand and foot, but when they finally had to choice and got 
an iPhone and learned how to use it they were for the most part completely 
happy with the way it works and how accessible it is. I think looking back a 
few years from now not having a home button and Touch Id any more will be the 
same thing, we may look back on it with some font memories but we'll have moved 
on and will be using the new devices with equal ease. I'm sure Apple won't stop 
making things better and easier even though I am equally sure we'll continue to 
deal with nasty bugs along the way and all that.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Maslo
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

Hi Scott, I loved the iPhone X. I had a working perfectly with Apple Pay and 
we're buying stuff from the App Store. It is fun and easy

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> 
> I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using mine for 
> 2 weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at hoe much I love 
> using it. There is a little bit of a learning curve with this phone but after 
> you have it for an hour or so that learning curve will be no more. Even my 
> wife who is also blind was very nervous about using an iPhone without a Home 
> button but she took right to it very quickly.
> 
> I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the 
> AppStore with FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash earlier 
> on my iPhone X I couldn’t use FaceID for that either . When I try and use it 
> with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to Install or Double Click to 
> pay but when I do that nothing happens. Are you able to use these with FaceID 
> on your phone?
> Scott Rumery
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of 
>> this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
>> iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
>> this design.
>> 
>> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
>> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I 
>> went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
>> interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I 
>> am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless 
>> interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. 
>> After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification 
>> Center or the control center  has become second nature. 
>> 
>> Closing apps….
>> 
>> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
>> (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, 
>> and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start 
>> to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. 
>> This second pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture 
>> properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.
>> 
>> Opening the App Switcher….
>> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
>> touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
>> like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
>> exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the 
>> exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep dragging up to about 
>> the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and feel another indication 
>> letting you know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use 
>> the typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.
>> 
>> Control Center and Notification Center…
>> 
>> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like 
>> exiting apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the 
>> top of the screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you 
>> will hear and feel the pop once your finger is on the status

Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Michael Maslo]

Hi Scott, I loved the iPhone X. I had a working perfectly with Apple Pay and 
we're buying stuff from the App Store. It is fun and easy

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> 
> I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using mine for 
> 2 weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at hoe much I love 
> using it. There is a little bit of a learning curve with this phone but after 
> you have it for an hour or so that learning curve will be no more. Even my 
> wife who is also blind was very nervous about using an iPhone without a Home 
> button but she took right to it very quickly.
> 
> I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the AppStore with 
> FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash earlier on my iPhone X 
> I couldn’t use FaceID for that either
> . When I try and use it with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to 
> Install or Double Click to pay but when I do that nothing happens. Are you 
> able to use these with FaceID on your phone?
> Scott Rumery
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of 
>> this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
>> iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
>> this design.
>> 
>> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
>> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I 
>> went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
>> interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I 
>> am completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless 
>> interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. 
>> After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification 
>> Center or the control center  has become second nature. 
>> 
>> Closing apps….
>> 
>> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
>> (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, 
>> and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start 
>> to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. 
>> This second pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture 
>> properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.
>> 
>> Opening the App Switcher….
>> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
>> touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
>> like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
>> exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the 
>> exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep dragging up to about 
>> the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and feel another indication 
>> letting you know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use 
>> the typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.
>> 
>> Control Center and Notification Center…
>> 
>> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like 
>> exiting apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the 
>> top of the screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you 
>> will hear and feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag down 
>> and you will hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are passing the 
>> control center, stop dragging if you want to activate the control center, 
>> keep dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the Notification 
>> Center. Once you are in either the Control center or the Notification Center 
>> you can use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.
>> 
>> 
>> Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
>> The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
>> water is fine.
>> 
>> Ed Worrell
>> 
>> Co-Founder/CEO
>> OverHere Consulting LLP
>> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
>> Https://overhereconsulting.net
>> Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
>> Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast
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Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

[Scott Rumery]

Hi Ed,


I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using mine for 2 
weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at hoe much I love using 
it. There is a little bit of a learning curve with this phone but after you 
have it for an hour or so that learning curve will be no more. Even my wife who 
is also blind was very nervous about using an iPhone without a Home button but 
she took right to it very quickly.

I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the AppStore with 
FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash earlier on my iPhone X I 
couldn’t use FaceID for that either
 . When I try and use it with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to 
Install or Double Click to pay but when I do that nothing happens. Are you able 
to use these with FaceID on your phone?
Scott Rumery

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the design of this 
> phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I loved about my first 
> iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for years for Apple to go back to 
> this design.
> 
> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone for 
> everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely glad that I went 
> with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in love with the iPhone 
> interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s craftsmanship all over again. I am 
> completely blind and I have to use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless 
> interface was a trick for about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. 
> After that the gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification 
> Center or the control center  has become second nature. 
> 
> Closing apps….
> 
> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the touch screen 
> (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a little popping sound, 
> and you will also feel the haptic feedback pop once as well. You then start 
> to drag your finger up the screen and you will hear and feel  another pop. 
> This second pop will indicate that you have performed the exit gesture 
> properly, and you now should be back on your home screen.
> 
> Opening the App Switcher….
> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part of the 
> touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up the screen just 
> like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel the same indicators as 
> exiting an application, this time though you will keep draggingg past the 
> exit app sound and haptic feedback. You will then keep dragging up to about 
> the middle of the touch screen and you will hear and feel another indication 
> letting you know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use 
> the typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.
> 
> Control Center and Notification Center…
> 
> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much like exiting 
> apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the status bar at the top of the 
> screen and  You will do a one finger drag down the screen you will hear and 
> feel the pop once your finger is on the status bar. Drag down and you will 
> hear and feel the first pop to let you know you are passing the control 
> center, stop dragging if you want to activate the control center, keep 
> dragging until you hear and feel a pop to get to the Notification Center. 
> Once you are in either the Control center or the Notification Center you can 
> use your standard group of VoiceOver gestures.
> 
> 
> Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS again. 
> The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. Come in the 
> water is fine.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> Co-Founder/CEO
> OverHere Consulting LLP
> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
> Https://overhereconsulting.net
> Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
> Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast
> 
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