RE: Seeing AI review

[Richard Turner]

Hi Marilyn,
Lists are funny about how they show, or do not show, email addresses.  Your 
reply went to the list.
If you are using Jaws with Outlook, press alt+1 to read who the message is from 
and hit alt+1 twice quickly to put focus in the from field.  Then, you can left 
arrow and get the direct address for sending off list.

You likely missed the early part of the thread.
Seeing AI is a free app from Microsoft in the Apple app store.
The link to download it is:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai-talking-camera-for-the-blind/id999062298

HTH,
Richard


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Marilyn Bland
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI review

Good morning Richard, 

I do not mean to clog the list but your address does not show, only your
name. I have pressed reply and not reply all, but am not sure that my
message won't go to the whole list. It is not a private message but meant
only to clarify some of my questions since I am new to the list. 

Are you developing or launching a new app? Is it in the APP store? What
exactly is it called when you search for it? Is it free? Are listers testing
it and providing feedback? Is it connected with some or other company?



Thanks. 

Marilyn 

Dr. Marilyn Bland  - Dallas, Texas
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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:58 PM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)'
Subject: Seeing AI review

First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a
research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and
improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely
impressive.

It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels,
available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face
Recognition.

The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my
computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen
and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up
with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.

Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB
reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will
tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will
automatically take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is
that it maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and
it will separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with
VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a
second page, but this is worth a lot to me.

Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a
ways away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can,
you can be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will
start beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and
it will tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have
used.

Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view,
then if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the
person  My wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people
have always said she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't
mean that young though, grin.

Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when
you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.

Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three
pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an
edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This
works very quickly once you get a label entered.

I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not
sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try
to use it on the Touch.

At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

Richard



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Re: Seeing AI review

[Chris Smart]

assuming you folks actually mena currency.

At 11:23 PM 7/12/2017, you wrote:
I have a 7+, and there is no special channel that I am seeing for 
Currensy. There is a person, seen, short text, product and document.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Kay Malmquist 
<kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> wrote:


I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read 
Currensy. Do you know if that a special channel that is offered on 
the seven? It doesn't appear to be available on the 6S.


Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to.
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


First, for those who missed the details from the app description, 
this is a research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it 
continues to develop and improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a 
first release, this is extremely impressive.


It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also 
have Face Recognition.


The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of 
my computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the 
computer screen and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 
was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing 
AI kept up with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.


Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good 
as KNFB reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the 
phone and will tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page 
in view and will automatically take the picture.  The biggest 
advantage of this app though is that it maintains the 
formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it will 
separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with 
VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this 
point add a second page, but this is worth a lot to me.


Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold 
it a ways away from the object depending on how big the object 
is.  A small can, you can be closer than with a large box.  Once it 
sees a bar code, it will start beeping and the beeps get faster and 
then you want to hold steady and it will tell you the result.  Far 
faster than any other bar code app I have used.


Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera 
view, then if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and 
age of the person.  My wife it said was 41 the first time and she 
is 62.  But, people have always said she looks much younger than 
she is.  They probably didn't mean that young though, grin.


Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the 
scene when you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.


Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take 
three pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of 
themselves, then an edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they 
are.  This works very quickly once you get a label entered.


I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, 
so I'm not sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of 
the app when I try to use it on the Touch.


At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

Richard



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RE: Seeing AI review

[Marilyn Bland]

Good morning Richard, 

I do not mean to clog the list but your address does not show, only your
name. I have pressed reply and not reply all, but am not sure that my
message won't go to the whole list. It is not a private message but meant
only to clarify some of my questions since I am new to the list. 

Are you developing or launching a new app? Is it in the APP store? What
exactly is it called when you search for it? Is it free? Are listers testing
it and providing feedback? Is it connected with some or other company?



Thanks. 

Marilyn 

Dr. Marilyn Bland  - Dallas, Texas
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:58 PM
To: 'ViPone list (viphone@googlegroups.com)'
Subject: Seeing AI review

First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a
research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and
improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely
impressive.

It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels,
available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face
Recognition.

The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my
computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen
and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up
with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.

Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB
reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will
tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will
automatically take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is
that it maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and
it will separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with
VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a
second page, but this is worth a lot to me.

Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a
ways away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can,
you can be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will
start beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and
it will tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have
used.

Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view,
then if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the
person  My wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people
have always said she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't
mean that young though, grin.

Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when
you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.

Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three
pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an
edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This
works very quickly once you get a label entered.

I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not
sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try
to use it on the Touch.

At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

Richard



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Re: Seeing AI review

[lenron brown]

If not maybe request a channel to be added for money reading

On 7/12/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I didn’t test that, but try the short text channel and see if that works.
> Richard
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI review
>
> I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read Currensy. Do you
> know if that a special channel that is offered on the seven? It doesn't
> appear to be available on the 6S.
> Kay Malmquist
> Ask me about healthy chocolate!
> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to.
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a
> research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and
> improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely
> impressive.
>
> It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.
>
> I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.
>
> The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels,
> available:
> Short Text
> Document
> Person
> Scene Beta.
> If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face
> Recognition.
>
> The 6s has:
> Short Text
> Document
> Product
> Person
> Scene Beta.
> If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.
>
> I have tested out all the channels.
> Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my
> computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen
> and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
> Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up
> with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.
>
> Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB
> reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will
> tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will
> automatically take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is
> that it maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and
> it will separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with
> VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a
> second page, but this is worth a lot to me.
>
> Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a
> ways away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can,
> you can be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will
> start beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and
> it will tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have
> used.
>
> Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view,
> then if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the
> person.  My wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people
> have always said she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't
> mean that young though, grin.
>
> Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when
> you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.
>
> Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three
> pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an
> edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
> When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This
> works very quickly once you get a label entered.
>
> I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not
> sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try
> to use it on the Touch.
>
> At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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RE: Seeing AI review

[Richard Turner]

I didn’t test that, but try the short text channel and see if that works.
Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI review

I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read Currensy. Do you 
know if that a special channel that is offered on the seven? It doesn't appear 
to be available on the 6S.
Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to.
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a 
research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and 
improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely 
impressive.

It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face 
Recognition.

The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my computer 
when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen and almost 
immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up 
with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.

Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB 
reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will tell 
you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will automatically 
take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is that it 
maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it will 
separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with VoiceOver.  
Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a second page, but 
this is worth a lot to me.

Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a ways 
away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can, you can 
be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will start 
beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and it will 
tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have used.

Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view, then 
if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the person.  My 
wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people have always said 
she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't mean that young 
though, grin.

Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when you 
take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.

Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three pictures 
of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an edit box 
will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This works 
very quickly once you get a label entered.

I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not 
sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try to 
use it on the Touch.

At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

Richard



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Re: Seeing AI review

[Kay Malmquist]

He didn't say what channel he was using. That was the strange part. But I 
really got the feeling that it had to do with currensy.
On Jul 12, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I have a 7+, and there is no special channel that I am seeing for Currensy. 
There is a person, seen, short text, product and document.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read Currensy. Do you 
> know if that a special channel that is offered on the seven? It doesn't 
> appear to be available on the 6S.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> Ask me about healthy chocolate!
> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a 
> research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and 
> improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely 
> impressive.
> 
> It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.
> 
> I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.
> 
> The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
> Short Text
> Document
> Person
> Scene Beta.
> If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face 
> Recognition.
> 
> The 6s has:
> Short Text
> Document
> Product
> Person
> Scene Beta.
> If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.
> 
> I have tested out all the channels.
> Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my 
> computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen 
> and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
> Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up 
> with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.
> 
> Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB 
> reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will 
> tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will 
> automatically take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is 
> that it maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it 
> will separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with 
> VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a 
> second page, but this is worth a lot to me.
> 
> Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a ways 
> away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can, you 
> can be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will start 
> beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and it will 
> tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have used.
> 
> Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view, then 
> if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the person.  My 
> wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people have always 
> said she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't mean that 
> young though, grin.
> 
> Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when 
> you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.
> 
> Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three 
> pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an 
> edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
> When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This 
> works very quickly once you get a label entered.
> 
> I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not 
> sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try to 
> use it on the Touch.
> 
> At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.
> 
> Just my two cents worth.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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Re: Seeing AI review

[Mary Otten]

I have a 7+, and there is no special channel that I am seeing for Currensy. 
There is a person, seen, short text, product and document.
Mary


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> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:16 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read Currensy. Do you 
> know if that a special channel that is offered on the seven? It doesn't 
> appear to be available on the 6S.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> Ask me about healthy chocolate!
> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
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> 
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a 
> research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and 
> improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely 
> impressive.
> 
> It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.
> 
> I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.
> 
> The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
> Short Text
> Document
> Person
> Scene Beta.
> If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face 
> Recognition.
> 
> The 6s has:
> Short Text
> Document
> Product
> Person
> Scene Beta.
> If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.
> 
> I have tested out all the channels.
> Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my 
> computer when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen 
> and almost immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
> Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up 
> with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.
> 
> Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB 
> reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will 
> tell you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will 
> automatically take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is 
> that it maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it 
> will separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with 
> VoiceOver.  Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a 
> second page, but this is worth a lot to me.
> 
> Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a ways 
> away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can, you 
> can be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will start 
> beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and it will 
> tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have used.
> 
> Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view, then 
> if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the person.  My 
> wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people have always 
> said she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't mean that 
> young though, grin.
> 
> Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when 
> you take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.
> 
> Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three 
> pictures of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an 
> edit box will appear and you can write in their name.
> When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This 
> works very quickly once you get a label entered.
> 
> I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not 
> sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try to 
> use it on the Touch.
> 
> At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.
> 
> Just my two cents worth.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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Re: Seeing AI review

[Kay Malmquist]

I noticed in one of the tutorial he said that it could read Currensy. Do you 
know if that a special channel that is offered on the seven? It doesn't appear 
to be available on the 6S.

Kay Malmquist
Ask me about healthy chocolate!
Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to. 
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a 
research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and 
improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely 
impressive.

It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face 
Recognition.

The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my computer 
when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen and almost 
immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up 
with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.

Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB 
reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will tell 
you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will automatically 
take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is that it 
maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it will 
separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with VoiceOver.  
Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a second page, but 
this is worth a lot to me.

Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a ways 
away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can, you can 
be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will start 
beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and it will 
tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have used.

Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view, then 
if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the person.  My 
wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people have always said 
she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't mean that young 
though, grin.

Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when you 
take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.

Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three pictures 
of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an edit box 
will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This works 
very quickly once you get a label entered.

I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not 
sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try to 
use it on the Touch.

At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

Richard



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Seeing AI review

[Richard Turner]

First, for those who missed the details from the app description, this is a 
research project.  I, like others, no doubt hope it continues to develop and 
improve.  Though, in my opinion, for a first release, this is extremely 
impressive.

It has different features available depending on the iOS device being used.

I have the iPhone 5s and the 6s.

The 5s has the following features, or as they call them, channels, available:
Short Text
Document
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button in the upper right, you also have Face 
Recognition.

The 6s has:
Short Text
Document
Product
Person
Scene Beta.
If you double tap on the menu button, you also have Face Recognition.

I have tested out all the channels.
Short Text, works amazingly well.  I wasn't hearing anything out of my computer 
when I turned it on, so I pointed the camera at the computer screen and almost 
immediately found out that Windows 10 was dealing with updates.
Once Jaws finally kicked in and was saying the same thing, Seeing AI kept up 
with the changes darn near as quickly as Jaws did.

Document, I have only done a few with it, but it is almost as good as KNFB 
reader for accuracy, plus it guides you as you position the phone and will tell 
you to hold steady when it has the whole page in view and will automatically 
take the picture.  The biggest advantage of this app though is that it 
maintains the formatting!  It will tell you there is a heading and it will 
separate paragraphs, so you can flick through sections of text with VoiceOver.  
Plus you can share the result.  You cannot at this point add a second page, but 
this is worth a lot to me.

Product, as others have noted, it is very fast and you have to hold it a ways 
away from the object depending on how big the object is.  A small can, you can 
be closer than with a large box.  Once it sees a bar code, it will start 
beeping and the beeps get faster and then you want to hold steady and it will 
tell you the result.  Far faster than any other bar code app I have used.

Person, this will simply tell you if there are faces in the camera view, then 
if you take a picture, it will guess at the gender and age of the person.  My 
wife it said was 41 the first time and she is 62.  But, people have always said 
she looks much younger than she is.  They probably didn't mean that young 
though, grin.

Scene Beta, as it says, it is in beta.  It tries to describe the scene when you 
take a picture.  Not too bad, but it is a beta.

Face Recognition, When you select that, it will ask you to take three pictures 
of someone, or have them take three pictures of themselves, then an edit box 
will appear and you can write in their name.
When you point the camera at them later, it will say who they are.  This works 
very quickly once you get a label entered.

I have an iPod Touch 6th Generation that is running the iOS beta, so I'm not 
sure it isn't an iOS issue, but it just kicks me out of the app when I try to 
use it on the Touch.

At this point, I'd give it a solid 4 stars.

Just my two cents worth.

Richard



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