Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Lisa Belville
Hi.  If you go to Your Account settings and flick right several times 
there is a Help/support button.  Double-tap this and there's a place to 
type in what the issue is.



I would maybe write a summary outside of the YouTube app like in notes 
or an Email and then copy/paste it into this field.  but this is due to 
my not being extremely fast and accurate on the on screen keyboard and 
not wanting to make mistakes and accidentally send the feedback.  There 
doesn't t seem to be a specific address associated with this form, so 
maybe putting something in the first line about Voice Over accessibility 
would help.



Lisa


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missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/17/2018 2:58 PM, Shermeen Khan wrote:

This may be a stupid question, but how on earth does one contact the
app developer? my googling has proven fruitless.

Shermeen

On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Sieghard, I'm not sure if it's so much an accessibility as a usability
issue.  I don't have any handy sighted folks around to ask to see
whether or not they have access to this info while swiping around in there.


If there is indeed no visual information about a video from the main
home screen than it's more of a usability issue to me.  On the other
hand, if they can indeed see the channel info then there's definitely
some kind of access issue.


I've noticed that since the 12.X iOS update VO will announce that there
is "possible text" in places in Youtube where there isn't any text to be
found.


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/17/2018 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Nice to know Google is so concerned about accessibility!
You do know that Youtube is owned by Google so you have to email their
accessibility team.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Shermeen Khan
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

Wow, what an epic disaster. And people wonder why some of us cling
desperately to old versions of apps. I've never e-mailed an app
developer before, but I do hope to try and get in touch with this one
somehow. I deeply regret having updated.

Thanks very much for commiserating!

Shermeen


On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, Shermeen.


Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change
several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see
the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for
those channels to which you've already subscribed.


As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted
a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad
if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the
expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel
name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right
past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there
and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see
other videos posted by that channel.

    If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.

Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?

Thanks so much in advance,

Shermeen


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Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Shermeen Khan
This may be a stupid question, but how on earth does one contact the
app developer? my googling has proven fruitless.

Shermeen

On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> Sieghard, I'm not sure if it's so much an accessibility as a usability
> issue.  I don't have any handy sighted folks around to ask to see
> whether or not they have access to this info while swiping around in there.
>
>
> If there is indeed no visual information about a video from the main
> home screen than it's more of a usability issue to me.  On the other
> hand, if they can indeed see the channel info then there's definitely
> some kind of access issue.
>
>
> I've noticed that since the 12.X iOS update VO will announce that there
> is "possible text" in places in Youtube where there isn't any text to be
> found.
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/17/2018 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Nice to know Google is so concerned about accessibility!
>> You do know that Youtube is owned by Google so you have to email their
>> accessibility team.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Shermeen Khan
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?
>>
>> Wow, what an epic disaster. And people wonder why some of us cling
>> desperately to old versions of apps. I've never e-mailed an app
>> developer before, but I do hope to try and get in touch with this one
>> somehow. I deeply regret having updated.
>>
>> Thanks very much for commiserating!
>>
>> Shermeen
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>>> Hi, Shermeen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change
>>> several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see
>>> the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for
>>> those channels to which you've already subscribed.
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted
>>> a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad
>>> if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the
>>> expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel
>>> name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right
>>> past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there
>>> and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see
>>> other videos posted by that channel.
>>>
>>>    If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa Belville
>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>>
>>> On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
>>>> something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
>>>> started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
>>>> right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
>>>> When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
>>>> uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
>>>> correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
>>>> channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
>>>> people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
>>>> and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
>>>> clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Shermeen
>>>>
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Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Lisa Belville
Sieghard, I'm not sure if it's so much an accessibility as a usability 
issue.  I don't have any handy sighted folks around to ask to see 
whether or not they have access to this info while swiping around in there.



If there is indeed no visual information about a video from the main 
home screen than it's more of a usability issue to me.  On the other 
hand, if they can indeed see the channel info then there's definitely 
some kind of access issue.



I've noticed that since the 12.X iOS update VO will announce that there 
is "possible text" in places in Youtube where there isn't any text to be 
found.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/17/2018 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Nice to know Google is so concerned about accessibility!
You do know that Youtube is owned by Google so you have to email their 
accessibility team.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

Wow, what an epic disaster. And people wonder why some of us cling
desperately to old versions of apps. I've never e-mailed an app
developer before, but I do hope to try and get in touch with this one
somehow. I deeply regret having updated.

Thanks very much for commiserating!

Shermeen


On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:

Hi, Shermeen.


Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change
several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see
the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for
those channels to which you've already subscribed.


As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted
a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad
if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the
expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel
name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right
past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there
and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see
other videos posted by that channel.

   If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.

Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?

Thanks so much in advance,

Shermeen


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Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Shermeen Khan
I have no idea how to even do that! it feels like e-mailing this big
vast void and hoping it sticks. Oh boy.

Shermeen


On 10/17/18, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Nice to know Google is so concerned about accessibility!
> You do know that Youtube is owned by Google so you have to email their
> accessibility team.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Shermeen Khan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?
>
> Wow, what an epic disaster. And people wonder why some of us cling
> desperately to old versions of apps. I've never e-mailed an app
> developer before, but I do hope to try and get in touch with this one
> somehow. I deeply regret having updated.
>
> Thanks very much for commiserating!
>
> Shermeen
>
>
> On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:
>> Hi, Shermeen.
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change
>> several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see
>> the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for
>> those channels to which you've already subscribed.
>>
>>
>> As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted
>> a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad
>> if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the
>> expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel
>> name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right
>> past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there
>> and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see
>> other videos posted by that channel.
>>
>>   If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>> Lisa Belville
>> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>>
>> On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
>>> something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
>>> started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
>>> right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
>>> When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
>>> uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
>>> correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
>>> channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
>>> people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
>>> and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
>>> clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks so much in advance,
>>>
>>> Shermeen
>>>
>>
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RE: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Nice to know Google is so concerned about accessibility!
You do know that Youtube is owned by Google so you have to email their 
accessibility team.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shermeen 
Khan
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

Wow, what an epic disaster. And people wonder why some of us cling
desperately to old versions of apps. I've never e-mailed an app
developer before, but I do hope to try and get in touch with this one
somehow. I deeply regret having updated.

Thanks very much for commiserating!

Shermeen


On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> Hi, Shermeen.
>
>
> Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change
> several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see
> the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for
> those channels to which you've already subscribed.
>
>
> As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted
> a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad
> if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the
> expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel
> name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right
> past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there
> and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see
> other videos posted by that channel.
>
>   If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
>> something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
>> started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
>> right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
>> When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
>> uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
>> correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
>> channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
>> people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
>> and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
>> clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?
>>
>> Thanks so much in advance,
>>
>> Shermeen
>>
>
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Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Shermeen Khan
Wow, what an epic disaster. And people wonder why some of us cling
desperately to old versions of apps. I've never e-mailed an app
developer before, but I do hope to try and get in touch with this one
somehow. I deeply regret having updated.

Thanks very much for commiserating!

Shermeen


On 10/17/18, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> Hi, Shermeen.
>
>
> Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change
> several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see
> the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for
> those channels to which you've already subscribed.
>
>
> As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted
> a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad
> if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the
> expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel
> name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right
> past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there
> and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see
> other videos posted by that channel.
>
>   If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.
>
> Lisa
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
>
> On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
>> something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
>> started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
>> right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
>> When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
>> uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
>> correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
>> channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
>> people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
>> and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
>> clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?
>>
>> Thanks so much in advance,
>>
>> Shermeen
>>
>
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Re: The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Lisa Belville

Hi, Shermeen.


Unfortunately, YouTube, in their infinite wisdom, made this change 
several updates ago.  If you look at your subscription tab you can see 
the videos and which channel has posted them, but this only works for 
those channels to which you've already subscribed.



As far as I can tell, there's no way to find out what channel has posted 
a video until you double-tap and start playing the video, or even the ad 
if there is one.  While on the video player screen, swipe right to the 
expand description button and double-tap it, you can see the channel 
name, as well as a brief summary of the video. You can also swipe right 
past the expand description button and the name of the channel is there 
and is a button you can double-tap on to get more information or see 
other videos posted by that channel.


 If there is a more efficient way to do this I would love to know it.

Lisa


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 10/17/2018 8:19 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:

Hi all,

Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?

Thanks so much in advance,

Shermeen



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The youtube app...what on earth happened?

2018-10-17 Thread Shermeen Khan
Hi all,

Apologies for being the kid who only rushes to the list when
something's wrong, but I recently updated my youtube app because it
started yelling at me about being old and outdated (what else is new,
right?), and of course, the update feels unfamiliar and incomplete.
When I now launch the app and swipe through recommended videos, either
uploaded by people to whom I've subscribed or ones that youtube
correctly thinks may interest me, I can no longer see the name of the
channel/user. Is there a way that this can be done? I follow a lot of
people on youtube that, for example, review similar types of things,
and I'd like very much to know who's channel I'm watching before
clicking on a video. please tell me this is possible?

Thanks so much in advance,

Shermeen

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