Re: VO and Non-literary .brf files

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

I am following the progress of the Blitab and the so-called braille kindle.

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 8 Jan 2017, at 20:50, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> if you are asking if there is an app that will tell you a symbol has dots 
> 1.5.6 but only 5.6 are showing than no, I do not believe so.
> The $70 is to replace the entire 8 dot cell, they do not replace individual 
> dots as that is not the way the cells are designed.
> The new Braille Note Touch from Humanware runs on Android, has either 18 or 
> 32 cells and will work as a display for iPhones, etc.
> However it costs between $4000 and 5500.
> Granted, the Braille Note Touch is running an older version of Android, and 
> costs a lot, but at least it isn't running Windows CE like most other note 
> takers.
> The B2g from National Braille Press also runs on Android but I think is only 
> available as a 20 cell display.
> I do not know if it can work with iOS devices as a display.
> Personally, I am leaning toward non-notetakers and sticking with just 
> displays and am waiting for the OR20 from American Printing House to come 
> out. a 20 cell display for around $500.
> I had a Braille Edge that died and rather than have the display replaced for 
> about $2300 or buying a new one for $2800, I am waiting to see the OR20.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"  
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> I need to replace my Braille display. I have a 40-cell BrailleEdge
>> that went in for repair over the month of December. While it was in
>> the shop, VR loaned me an Apex, which also had problems with its
>> cells, but I could still use it because it gave speech feedback.
>> 
>> Hims sent e-mail regarding what needs replacement. In order to replace
>> a Braille cell, it will cost $70--not sure if by cell they mean a
>> single pin, or the eight dots that make up the space under say,
>> position one on a line of Braille. I have enough weak cells to warrant
>> replacing the Braille display--counselor says the price difference
>> between repair and replace is minimal, so replacement with anew unit,
>> especially if it can be gotten with an extended warranty, seems a
>> better choice.
>> 
>> I asked about the possibility of getting a notetaker with speech
>> output and display, vs. just a display on its own. He says the
>> notetakers don't use up-to-date operating systems.
>> 
>> My main reason for considering a notetaker over a display is because
>> of the speech feedback you can get re dot configuration of Braille
>> characters.
>> 
>> Is this same thing possible with VO? For example, if one of my cells
>> goes out and I need to check dot configuration, would I be able to
>> import the file in to an app that supports Braille-ready files and go
>> through the file to the point in question and get "for" for the 123456
>> Braille character? I use different Braille codes depending on the task
>> at hand, hence the reference to "non-literary" in the subject line.
>> 
>> I hope this post makes sense. If not, please ask, and I'll try to
>> clarify my question.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
>> 
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Re: VO and Non-literary .brf files

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Richard.
Thanks for the clafification re the Braille cell repair.

I just need to know which dots are in the cell, as opposed to which
dots are there and which ones aren't showing.

I'd like to see the Orbit, too.

Thanks,
Dani

On 1/8/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> if you are asking if there is an app that will tell you a symbol has dots
> 1.5.6 but only 5.6 are showing than no, I do not believe so.
> The $70 is to replace the entire 8 dot cell, they do not replace individual
> dots as that is not the way the cells are designed.
> The new Braille Note Touch from Humanware runs on Android, has either 18 or
> 32 cells and will work as a display for iPhones, etc.
> However it costs between $4000 and 5500.
> Granted, the Braille Note Touch is running an older version of Android, and
> costs a lot, but at least it isn't running Windows CE like most other note
> takers.
> The B2g from National Braille Press also runs on Android but I think is only
> available as a 20 cell display.
> I do not know if it can work with iOS devices as a display.
> Personally, I am leaning toward non-notetakers and sticking with just
> displays and am waiting for the OR20 from American Printing House to come
> out. a 20 cell display for around $500.
> I had a Braille Edge that died and rather than have the display replaced for
> about $2300 or buying a new one for $2800, I am waiting to see the OR20.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> "A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> "By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Dani Pagador
> > wrote:
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> I need to replace my Braille display. I have a 40-cell BrailleEdge
> that went in for repair over the month of December. While it was in
> the shop, VR loaned me an Apex, which also had problems with its
> cells, but I could still use it because it gave speech feedback.
>
> Hims sent e-mail regarding what needs replacement. In order to replace
> a Braille cell, it will cost $70--not sure if by cell they mean a
> single pin, or the eight dots that make up the space under say,
> position one on a line of Braille. I have enough weak cells to warrant
> replacing the Braille display--counselor says the price difference
> between repair and replace is minimal, so replacement with anew unit,
> especially if it can be gotten with an extended warranty, seems a
> better choice.
>
> I asked about the possibility of getting a notetaker with speech
> output and display, vs. just a display on its own. He says the
> notetakers don't use up-to-date operating systems.
>
> My main reason for considering a notetaker over a display is because
> of the speech feedback you can get re dot configuration of Braille
> characters.
>
> Is this same thing possible with VO? For example, if one of my cells
> goes out and I need to check dot configuration, would I be able to
> import the file in to an app that supports Braille-ready files and go
> through the file to the point in question and get "for" for the 123456
> Braille character? I use different Braille codes depending on the task
> at hand, hence the reference to "non-literary" in the subject line.
>
> I hope this post makes sense. If not, please ask, and I'll try to
> clarify my question.
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
>
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Re: VO and Non-literary .brf files

[Richard Turner]

if you are asking if there is an app that will tell you a symbol has dots 1.5.6 
but only 5.6 are showing than no, I do not believe so.
The $70 is to replace the entire 8 dot cell, they do not replace individual 
dots as that is not the way the cells are designed.
The new Braille Note Touch from Humanware runs on Android, has either 18 or 32 
cells and will work as a display for iPhones, etc.
However it costs between $4000 and 5500.
Granted, the Braille Note Touch is running an older version of Android, and 
costs a lot, but at least it isn't running Windows CE like most other note 
takers.
The B2g from National Braille Press also runs on Android but I think is only 
available as a 20 cell display.
I do not know if it can work with iOS devices as a display.
Personally, I am leaning toward non-notetakers and sticking with just displays 
and am waiting for the OR20 from American Printing House to come out. a 20 cell 
display for around $500.
I had a Braille Edge that died and rather than have the display replaced for 
about $2300 or buying a new one for $2800, I am waiting to see the OR20.

Richard



"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Dani Pagador 
> wrote:

Hi, Everyone.
I need to replace my Braille display. I have a 40-cell BrailleEdge
that went in for repair over the month of December. While it was in
the shop, VR loaned me an Apex, which also had problems with its
cells, but I could still use it because it gave speech feedback.

Hims sent e-mail regarding what needs replacement. In order to replace
a Braille cell, it will cost $70--not sure if by cell they mean a
single pin, or the eight dots that make up the space under say,
position one on a line of Braille. I have enough weak cells to warrant
replacing the Braille display--counselor says the price difference
between repair and replace is minimal, so replacement with anew unit,
especially if it can be gotten with an extended warranty, seems a
better choice.

I asked about the possibility of getting a notetaker with speech
output and display, vs. just a display on its own. He says the
notetakers don't use up-to-date operating systems.

My main reason for considering a notetaker over a display is because
of the speech feedback you can get re dot configuration of Braille
characters.

Is this same thing possible with VO? For example, if one of my cells
goes out and I need to check dot configuration, would I be able to
import the file in to an app that supports Braille-ready files and go
through the file to the point in question and get "for" for the 123456
Braille character? I use different Braille codes depending on the task
at hand, hence the reference to "non-literary" in the subject line.

I hope this post makes sense. If not, please ask, and I'll try to
clarify my question.

Thanks,
Dani

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VO and Non-literary .brf files

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I need to replace my Braille display. I have a 40-cell BrailleEdge
that went in for repair over the month of December. While it was in
the shop, VR loaned me an Apex, which also had problems with its
cells, but I could still use it because it gave speech feedback.

Hims sent e-mail regarding what needs replacement. In order to replace
a Braille cell, it will cost $70--not sure if by cell they mean a
single pin, or the eight dots that make up the space under say,
position one on a line of Braille. I have enough weak cells to warrant
replacing the Braille display--counselor says the price difference
between repair and replace is minimal, so replacement with anew unit,
especially if it can be gotten with an extended warranty, seems a
better choice.

I asked about the possibility of getting a notetaker with speech
output and display, vs. just a display on its own. He says the
notetakers don't use up-to-date operating systems.

My main reason for considering a notetaker over a display is because
of the speech feedback you can get re dot configuration of Braille
characters.

Is this same thing possible with VO? For example, if one of my cells
goes out and I need to check dot configuration, would I be able to
import the file in to an app that supports Braille-ready files and go
through the file to the point in question and get "for" for the 123456
Braille character? I use different Braille codes depending on the task
at hand, hence the reference to "non-literary" in the subject line.

I hope this post makes sense. If not, please ask, and I'll try to
clarify my question.

Thanks,
Dani

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