Re: alex on IDevices?
I *think* you can have Alex if you jailbreak. Cait On Mar 30, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I doubt space is that much of a consideration here. The largest high quality files from Vocalizer are I think around 300 Mb so even if Alex was 500 Mb that is not so bad and if Apple wanted to make it an optional download for people who don't mind using the space for it then I don't think they would not do so because of the space. After all, new iOS updates are downloaded to your device and those can be 2 Gb. Let's just see if iOS 8 will offer Alex or maybe the SIRI voices as options for Voiceover. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? Alex takes up a lot of room. He isn't on the iThings. I wish he was. teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:04 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: ignore that last post. Your name was just after your statement and I thought you were saying that the voice the cousin was using was richard. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list
Re: alex on IDevices?
Hi, Alex isn't available, even if you're jailbroken. The closest you can get is to replace some of the sounds with Alex talking - E.G. instead of the charging sound you could have Alex say device charging, but you still wouldn't actually have the Alex voice on your device; just the sound files of him talking. Cheers, Ben. On 3/31/14, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: I *think* you can have Alex if you jailbreak. Cait On Mar 30, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: I doubt space is that much of a consideration here. The largest high quality files from Vocalizer are I think around 300 Mb so even if Alex was 500 Mb that is not so bad and if Apple wanted to make it an optional download for people who don't mind using the space for it then I don't think they would not do so because of the space. After all, new iOS updates are downloaded to your device and those can be 2 Gb. Let's just see if iOS 8 will offer Alex or maybe the SIRI voices as options for Voiceover. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? Alex takes up a lot of room. He isn't on the iThings. I wish he was. teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:04 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: ignore that last post. Your name was just after your statement and I thought you were saying that the voice the cousin was using was richard. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
alex on IDevices?
I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: alex on IDevices?
No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: alex on IDevices?
Is this found in the language rotor and is it the british voice? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: alex on IDevices?
ignore that last post. Your name was just after your statement and I thought you were saying that the voice the cousin was using was richard. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: alex on IDevices?
Alex is a voice. one is not confined to the voice for that particular area or country, any of many can be used. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: alex on IDevices? I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: alex on IDevices?
Alex takes up a lot of room. He isn't on the iThings. I wish he was. teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:04 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: ignore that last post. Your name was just after your statement and I thought you were saying that the voice the cousin was using was richard. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: alex on IDevices?
I doubt space is that much of a consideration here. The largest high quality files from Vocalizer are I think around 300 Mb so even if Alex was 500 Mb that is not so bad and if Apple wanted to make it an optional download for people who don't mind using the space for it then I don't think they would not do so because of the space. After all, new iOS updates are downloaded to your device and those can be 2 Gb. Let's just see if iOS 8 will offer Alex or maybe the SIRI voices as options for Voiceover. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? Alex takes up a lot of room. He isn't on the iThings. I wish he was. teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:04 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: ignore that last post. Your name was just after your statement and I thought you were saying that the voice the cousin was using was richard. If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? - Original Message - From: Richard Turner mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:01 AM Subject: Re: alex on IDevices? No, you have not missed anything. It sounds like the cousin has. Richard There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing. - Aristotle On Mar 30, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am working with an older lady who has her first IPhone. Her cousin has told her that she has Alex on her IPhone 4. Have I missed something? If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's
