RE: getting started with knfb reader
Donald, OK, never-mind my earlier question. Also, in case you aren't aware, you can press the down volume arrow key to take the picture (which works best for me I think, since my fingers holding the phone are close to there). Hth, Chip -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Raikes Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Hi everyone, Thank you again for all the suggestions. What I discovered was that I was covering the lense with my finger when trying to take a picture. I don't remember which setting I changed that allowed me to discover that I was covering the lense but knfb reader said that the lense was covered. I also printed a standard .txt file from my computer to use as a test page. I have successfully scanned and read it several times. I also discovered that the split tap gesture is most successful for me to take the picture. On 12/23/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire > message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner. > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies >> people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on >> one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know >> including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where >> it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best >> and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a >> couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one >> of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not >> in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 >> or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on >> sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you >> essentially get the app for almost half price. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Hi there, >> >> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this >> app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, >> perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a >> little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following: >> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you >> are holding the phone nice and horizontal. >> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about >> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC >> display screen. >> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. >> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the >> centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if >> you need help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. >> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the >> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not >> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. >> >> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera >> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the >> shot!! >> >> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I >> have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have >> some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. >> >> Sandy. >> >> sent from the dark side of the moon >> >> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month >> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes >> down quite a bit further in price. >> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and >> it’s also sensitive to lighting
RE: getting started with knfb reader
You can also use the up volume button on the side to take the picture if that helps at all. Glad you got it sorted out. Enjoy, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Raikes Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 9:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Hi everyone, Thank you again for all the suggestions. What I discovered was that I was covering the lense with my finger when trying to take a picture. I don't remember which setting I changed that allowed me to discover that I was covering the lense but knfb reader said that the lense was covered. I also printed a standard .txt file from my computer to use as a test page. I have successfully scanned and read it several times. I also discovered that the split tap gesture is most successful for me to take the picture. On 12/23/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire > message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner. > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies >> people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on >> one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know >> including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where >> it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best >> and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a >> couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one >> of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not >> in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 >> or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on >> sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you >> essentially get the app for almost half price. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Hi there, >> >> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this >> app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, >> perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a >> little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following: >> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you >> are holding the phone nice and horizontal. >> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about >> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC >> display screen. >> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. >> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the >> centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if >> you need help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. >> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the >> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not >> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. >> >> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera >> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the >> shot!! >> >> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I >> have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have >> some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. >> >> Sandy. >> >> sent from the dark side of the moon >> >> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month >> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes >> down quite a bit further in price. >> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and >> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting >> gives it trouble because of their color profile or
Re: getting started with knfb reader
Hi everyone, Thank you again for all the suggestions. What I discovered was that I was covering the lense with my finger when trying to take a picture. I don't remember which setting I changed that allowed me to discover that I was covering the lense but knfb reader said that the lense was covered. I also printed a standard .txt file from my computer to use as a test page. I have successfully scanned and read it several times. I also discovered that the split tap gesture is most successful for me to take the picture. On 12/23/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire > message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner. > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies >> people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on >> one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know >> including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where >> it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best >> and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a >> couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one >> of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not >> in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 >> or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on >> sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you >> essentially get the app for almost half price. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Hi there, >> >> Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this >> app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, >> perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a >> little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following: >> 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you >> are holding the phone nice and horizontal. >> 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about >> shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC >> display screen. >> 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. >> place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the >> centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if >> you need help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. >> 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the >> phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not >> buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. >> >> Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera >> aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the >> shot!! >> >> Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I >> have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have >> some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. >> >> Sandy. >> >> sent from the dark side of the moon >> >> On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month >> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes >> down quite a bit further in price. >> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and >> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting >> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you >> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his >> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device >> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is >> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand >> why they’re no
Re: getting started with knfb reader
Hey there, Sieghard. I just wanted to let you know that I think your entire message didn't come through to the list. You just had a one-liner. Thanks, Ari > On Dec 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people > get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion > don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get > fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the > fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR > app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so > you have to decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying > full price is worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look > for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then > when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift > cards purchased at 20% off you essentially get the app for almost half price. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Hi there, > > Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app > since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I > don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. > I would say, to a new user, do the following: > 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are > holding the phone nice and horizontal. > 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about > shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display > screen. > 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. > place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre > of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need > help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. > 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the > phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not > buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. > > Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera > aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!! > > Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have > given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some > success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. > > Sandy. > > sent from the dark side of the moon > > On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for > $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. > From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial > vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down > quite a bit further in price. > It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and > it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting > gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you > have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his > dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device > above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is > something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why > they’re not getting any results. > He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even > if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats > you shouldn’t expect too much. > Evan > > From: Michael Maslo > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this > will go on sale for Christmas? > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND > <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: > Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not > hearing results immediately. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on beh
Braigo? Re: getting started with knfb reader
Anyone who tried the Braigo app, does it recognize text in Spanish for instance? Thanks for the tip! El 23/12/2016 06:30 p.m., Chip Orange escribió: Hi Donald, There's another OCR app, designed especially for the blind, which is free as well. It's name is Braigo. I haven't spent much time with it myself, but if KNFB isn't an option for you, or you can't get it to work, I'd give this a try. Hth, Chip -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Raikes Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good things about this app. Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? On 12/22/16, Evan Reese<ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down quite a bit further in price. It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. Evan From: Michael Maslo Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > Hello, > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > read product packaging. > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn
RE: getting started with knfb reader
Hi Donald, There's another OCR app, designed especially for the blind, which is free as well. It's name is Braigo. I haven't spent much time with it myself, but if KNFB isn't an option for you, or you can't get it to work, I'd give this a try. Hth, Chip -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donald Raikes Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good things about this app. Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month > for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. > From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial > vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down > quite a bit further in price. > It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and > it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting > gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you > have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his > dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device > above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is > something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand > why they’re not getting any results. > He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even > if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of > caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. > Evan > > From: Michael Maslo > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this > will go on sale for Christmas? > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND > <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: > > Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not > hearing results immediately. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of > Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Try holding your phone higher > > from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. > I've found that about six inches is good. > On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > > read product packaging. > > > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my > money? > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > i
Re: getting started with knfb reader
Well, I’ll be visiting the friend of mine who has it over the new year, so I’ll get a chance to get a firsthand look at it, keeping in mind Sandy’s suggestions. Evan From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: getting started with knfb reader Hi Michael, It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you essentially get the app for almost half price. Regards, Sieghard From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Hi there, Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following: 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are holding the phone nice and horizontal. 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display screen. 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!! Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down quite a bit further in price. It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. Evan From: Michael Maslo Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that a
RE: getting started with knfb reader
Hi Michael, It may not have a trial version, but as you can tell from most replies people get excellent results. I think Evan’s concerns which are based on one opinion don’t hold too miuch water since almost everybody I know including myself get fantastic results. You can always find examples where it may not work, the fact is that for a blind user it is by far the best and most easy to use OCR app out there. It seems to go on sale at least a couple of times a year so you have to decide if you want to wait for one of these sales or if paying full price is worth it to you. If you are not in a hurry I suggest you look for 20% deals on iTunes gift cards, buy $60 or $80 worth of them and then when KNFB is on sale buy it. If it goes on sale for 25% off and you use gift cards purchased at 20% off you essentially get the app for almost half price. Regards, Sieghard From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 4:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Hi there, Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following: 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are holding the phone nice and horizontal. 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display screen. 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!! Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com<mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down >quite a bit further in price. It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. Evan From: Michael Maslo<mailto:michaelmasl...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com<mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com<mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > Hello, > > R
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Hi there, Don't worry! You have not wasted your money! I have been using this app since it came out and get brilliant results with it. I should say, perhaps, I don't see at all, so am using the app without the benefit of a little vision. I would say, to a new user, do the following: 1. Make sure that "tilt guidance" is turned on. This will ensure that you are holding the phone nice and horizontal. 2. Make sure that "flash" is turned on, then you don't have to worry about shadows etc. The only time you don't want flash is when shooting a PC display screen. 3. Start by using a nicely printed sheet of text, just to simplify things. place same on a table, position the phone, camera facing down, in the centre of the paper (I can give you tips as to how to find the centre if you need help) Make sure the phone is in portrait, reflecting the paper. 4. Lift the phone about a foot. The rule of thumb is: you need to lift the phone, roughly, as high as the paper is long. If the tilt guidance is not buzzing, press the down volume button and you should be hearing the text. Things to avoid, don't put your fingers in the way of the camera aperture. Don't worry about the 'field of status report" just take the shot!! Good luck, and, I repeat, don't worry, this ia brilliant app, although I have given these instructions and they may seem finicky, once you have some success, you will do these things naturally, without thinking. Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon > On 22 Dec 2016, at 19:15, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for > $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. > From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial > vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down > quite a bit further in price. > It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and > it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting > gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you > have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his > dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device > above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is > something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why > they’re not getting any results. > He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even > if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats > you shouldn’t expect too much. > Evan > > From: Michael Maslo > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this > will go on sale for Christmas? >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND >> <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: >> Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not >> hearing results immediately. >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of >> Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Try holding your phone higher >> >> from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. >> I've found that about six inches is good. >> On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to >> > read product packaging. >> > >> > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader >> > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD >> > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. >> > >> > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I >> > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. >> > >> > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? >> > >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Ta
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I am using this app in my both phones, i.e. iPhone and android. Its simply amaizing! Nevertheless I would accept that it may not work on the labels having dark background. But its wonderful in reading computer screen, notice boards and the papers having light background with dark colour text on them. On 12/23/16, Monica Jones <coffeega...@att.net> wrote: > KNFB works well for me too. Occasionally, I must keep playing with a > document to get results but most of the time it works great. If you haven't > > read the whole manual, I suggest you do. The tips and tricks in there were > very helpful to me. I know it needs light to work well but I'm not one to > give advice on lighting. > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Logan > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:53 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > I use cayenne FB reader all the time… Have no issues whatsoever… > > You should be able to go through the App Store and request a refund… > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 22, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. >> >> Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to >> read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good >> things about this app. >> >> Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? >> >>> On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last >>> month >>> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >>> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >>> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes >>> down >>> quite a bit further in price. >>> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, >>> and >>> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED >>> lighting >>> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if >>> you >>> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his >>> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your >>> device >>> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is >>> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not >>> understand >>> why they’re not getting any results. >>> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, >>> even >>> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of >>> caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. >>> Evan >>> >>> From: Michael Maslo >>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >>> >>> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if >>> this >>> will go on sale for Christmas? >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND >>> <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: >>> >>> Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not >>> hearing results immediately. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of >>> Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >>> >>> Try holding your phone higher >>> >>> from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. >>> I've found that about six inches is good. >>>> On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to >>>> read product packaging. >>>> >>>> I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader >>>> to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD >>>> cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. >>>> >>>> According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I >>>> never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. >>>> >>>> Is there a trick to using this app or have I
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KNFB works well for me too. Occasionally, I must keep playing with a document to get results but most of the time it works great. If you haven't read the whole manual, I suggest you do. The tips and tricks in there were very helpful to me. I know it needs light to work well but I'm not one to give advice on lighting. -Original Message- From: Peter Logan Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader I use cayenne FB reader all the time… Have no issues whatsoever… You should be able to go through the App Store and request a refund… Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good things about this app. Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down quite a bit further in price. It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. Evan From: Michael Maslo Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: Hello, Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to read product packaging. I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this li
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It is recommended that the camera be held at a distance of about 12 inches from the page. Jewel -- From: "Gordon" <gor...@gordonradio.com> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:51 AM To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > Hello, > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > read product packaging. > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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We use knfb for all kinds of packages. While the results often are far from perfect, we most often get enough information to tell us what we need to know. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Logan Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader I use cayenne FB reader all the time… Have no issues whatsoever… You should be able to go through the App Store and request a refund… Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. > > Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to > read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good > things about this app. > > Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? > >> On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last >> month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high >> partial vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless >> it comes down quite a bit further in price. >> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, >> and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED >> lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or >> something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above >> a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on >> the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a >> shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a >> blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. >> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not >> flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but >> with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. >> Evan >> >> From: Michael Maslo >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if >> this will go on sale for Christmas? >> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND >> <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: >> >> Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are >> not hearing results immediately. >> >> >> ________ >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf >> of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Try holding your phone higher >> >> from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. >> I've found that about six inches is good. >>> On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to >>> read product packaging. >>> >>> I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb >>> reader to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and >>> on a DVD cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. >>> >>> According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I >>> never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. >>> >>> Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my >> money? >>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and sto
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Before deciding to try for a refund, which I doubt you would get since so many people use this app successfully on a daily basis, maybe read the documentation and make sure you have things set correctly. Also, deleting and reinstalling the app might help. Plus, make sure you are not running a bunch of other apps at the same time. Especially with an iPhone 5. While the processor is fine, it is a 32 bit processor and the app definitely puts a strain on the resources given what it does. If you are scanning a page of text you want the camera at least 10 to 12 inches above the page. It is not designed for packages, unless you are talking about a box, or to other flat package. Also, the array of fonts and colors used on packaging will give any scanner problems, even the $1000 OpenBook on a computer using a good scanner. If you primarily what package information, use TapTapSee or iDentifi to find out what it is then look it up on www.directionsforme.com<http://www.directionsforme.com> That is Directions For Me dot com. HTH, Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Dec 22, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Peter Logan <pdlloga...@gmail.com<mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>> wrote: I use cayenne FB reader all the time… Have no issues whatsoever… You should be able to go through the App Store and request a refund… Sent from my iPhone On Dec 22, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com<mailto:don.rai...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good things about this app. Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com<mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down quite a bit further in price. It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. Evan From: Michael Maslo Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com<mailto:n...@disney.com>> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com<mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: Hello, Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to read product packaging. I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator
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I use cayenne FB reader all the time… Have no issues whatsoever… You should be able to go through the App Store and request a refund… Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. > > Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to > read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good > things about this app. > > Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? > >> On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month >> for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >> From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >> vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down >> quite a bit further in price. >> It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and >> it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting >> gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you >> have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his >> dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device >> above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is >> something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand >> why they’re not getting any results. >> He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even >> if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of >> caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. >> Evan >> >> From: Michael Maslo >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this >> will go on sale for Christmas? >> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND >> <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: >> >> Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not >> hearing results immediately. >> >> >> ________ >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of >> Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] >> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader >> >> Try holding your phone higher >> >> from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. >> I've found that about six inches is good. >>> On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to >>> read product packaging. >>> >>> I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader >>> to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD >>> cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. >>> >>> According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I >>> never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. >>> >>> Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my >> money? >>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> li
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. So far none of them has helped. Are there any good alternatives to knfb reader? I sometimes need to read stuff when my wife is unavailable, and I thought I had heard good things about this app. Also any idea how to get my money back from the app store :) ? On 12/22/16, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month > for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. > From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial > vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down > quite a bit further in price. > It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and > it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting > gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you > have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his > dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device > above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is > something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand > why they’re not getting any results. > He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even > if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of > caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. > Evan > > From: Michael Maslo > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this > will go on sale for Christmas? > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND > <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: > > Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not > hearing results immediately. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of > Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Try holding your phone higher > > from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. > I've found that about six inches is good. > On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > > read product packaging. > > > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my > money? > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl
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No try before you buy feature. It was on sale for several days last month for $65, but it went back up to full price on December 1. >From what I heard from a computer savvy friend of mine with high partial >vision who’s played with it, I don’t think I’ll buy it unless it comes down >quite a bit further in price. It’s pretty finicky about your stuff having to be flat for one thing, and it’s also sensitive to lighting for another. He tells me that LED lighting gives it trouble because of their color profile or something. Also, if you have a light above it, say a chandelier above a table, as he has in his dining room, and you put a document down on the table and hold your device above the document, it can create a shadow which impairs OCR. This is something that might not occur to a blind person who might not understand why they’re not getting any results. He says it does work a good part of the time, although not flawlessly, even if lighting is good and the document is flat, but with these kinds of caveats you shouldn’t expect too much. Evan From: Michael Maslo Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > Hello, > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > read product packaging. > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sincerely, Michael maslo -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@c
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Disappointing. Yes I know that android has it but unfortunate Ios doesn't. Thanks for you your response. On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 13:04 Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The Android version is the only one that lets you try before you > > buy. Not sure why the IOS version doesn't offer this. With Android > > you get 25 documents you can scan to try it out. > > > > > > > > On 12/22/2016 12:58 PM, Michael Maslo > > wrote: > > > > > Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had > > anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? > > > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. > > -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Have you > > turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not > > hearing results immediately. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of > > Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM > > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > > > > > Try holding your phone higher > > > > > > from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better > > results. > > > I've found that about six inches is good. > > > On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to > > enable me to > > > > read product packaging. > > > > > > > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get > > knfb reader > > > > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page > > and on a DVD > > > > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > > > > > > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the > > page but I > > > > never get all four edges and all four corners in the > > field of view. > > > > > > > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted > > $100 of my money? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the > > V iPhone list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of > > this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > > > The following information is important for all members of the > > V iPhone list. > > > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of > > this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is > > Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > > --- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > > -- > >
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The Android version is the only one that lets you try before you buy. Not sure why the IOS version doesn't offer this. With Android you get 25 documents you can scan to try it out. On 12/22/2016 12:58 PM, Michael Maslo wrote: Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com <mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>> wrote: Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > Hello, > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > read product packaging. > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sincerely, Michael maslo -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mai
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Does this application offer a try to buy feature? Had anyone heard if this will go on sale for Christmas? On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:54 Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND < pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com> wrote: > Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not > hearing results immediately. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of > Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader > > Try holding your phone higher > > from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. > I've found that about six inches is good. > On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > > read product packaging. > > > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my > money? > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sincerely, Michael maslo -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: getting started with knfb reader
Have you turned batch mode off? If not, this could be why you are not hearing results immediately. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Gordon [gor...@gordonradio.com] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: getting started with knfb reader Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: > Hello, > > Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to > read product packaging. > > I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader > to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD > cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. > > According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I > never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. > > Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: getting started with knfb reader
Try holding your phone higher from what you're trying to capture and see if you have better results. I've found that about six inches is good. On 12/22/2016 12:46 PM, Donald Raikes wrote: Hello, Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to read product packaging. I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
getting started with knfb reader
Hello, Recently I decided I would like to try knfb reader to enable me to read product packaging. I have an iPhone 5 and installed the app, but I can't get knfb reader to recognize any text. I have tried it on a printed page and on a DVD cover, but it never seems to be able to read the text. According to the view finder, I have to keep rotating the page but I never get all four edges and all four corners in the field of view. Is there a trick to using this app or have I just wasted $100 of my money? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.