Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Wayne Merritt
Hi. I also really like the new keyboard in iOS 6. It especially makes
writing passwords that have a mixture of letters and numbers lots
easier, grin. It took a couple of tries for me to initially adjust my
thinking, but I think my typing is a little faster with the built-in
iOS keyboard than before the update.

Good stuff,
Wayne

On 9/20/12, Sean Paul  wrote:
> Yeah, apologies if that came off as if I were being a smart ... that
> certainly wasn't my intent. Yeah, I only used fleksy every now & again when
>
> I needed to type very long messages.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jon Pierson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:57
> Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour
>
>
>> Ok, sorry.
>> Another Flexy convert in the house!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sean Paul
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>>
>> We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular
>> keyboard when using IOS.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jon Pierson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
>> Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour
>>
>>
>>> Hi Shawn,
>>> Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the
>>> most common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding
>>> your finger on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat
>>> predictive algorithm.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Sean Paul
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>>>
>>> Heyya:
>>> I've tried it several times & am not able to get that to work for me.
>>> Yes, doubletapp inserts period is & has been turned on in settings.
>>> I'll keep fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
>>> Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>
>>>> You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and
>>>> tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always
>>>> and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make
>>>> sure you have this feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Sean Paul
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>>>>
>>>> I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap
>>>> to enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Grant Hardy" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
>>>> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is
>>>>> now significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
>>>>> punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
>>>>> therefore am a fan of the changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
>>>>> would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
>>>>> key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
>>>>> retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to
>>>>> activate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Yeah, apologies if that came off as if I were being a smart ... that 
certainly wasn't my intent. Yeah, I only used fleksy every now & again when 
I needed to type very long messages.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Pierson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:57
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Ok, sorry.
Another Flexy convert in the house!

Jon


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular
keyboard when using IOS.
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Pierson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Shawn,
Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the
most common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding
your finger on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat
predictive algorithm.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Heyya:
I've tried it several times & am not able to get that to work for me.
Yes, doubletapp inserts period is & has been turned on in settings.
I'll keep fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and
tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always
and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make
sure you have this feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap
to enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Hardy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is
now significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to
activate it.

Grant

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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Ok, sorry.
Another Flexy convert in the house!

Jon
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular
keyboard when using IOS.
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Pierson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour


> Hi Shawn,
> Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the 
> most common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding 
> your finger on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat 
> predictive algorithm.
>
> Jon
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sean Paul
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>
> Heyya:
> I've tried it several times & am not able to get that to work for me. 
> Yes, doubletapp inserts period is & has been turned on in settings. 
> I'll keep fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
> Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour
>
>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>> You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and 
>> tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always 
>> and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make 
>> sure you have this feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sean Paul
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>>
>> I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap 
>> to enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Grant Hardy" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
>> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>>
>>
>>> Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is 
>>> now significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter 
>>> punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I 
>>> therefore am a fan of the changes.
>>>
>>> I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I 
>>> would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter 
>>> key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still 
>>> retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to 
>>> activate it.
>>>
>>> Grant
>>>
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Yes, I'd agree that my typing is much better with it. I so noted this 
yesterday afternoon somewhere back up earlier in this thread, I couldn't be 
happier with that aspect of it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Pierson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:49
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Shawn,
The new keyboard behavior is nothing like Flexy, You can't have had any
success with it at all so far but it's definitely (next to Siri) the 
biggest

thing since slice bread or even apples.
It deserves many more tries and seems to give on average about a 3-fold
increase in speed for most of us.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much
does the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types
it. So with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if 
the

keyboard does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to
install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second
time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change
pages if swiping left or right doesn't work?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular 
keyboard when using IOS.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Pierson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Shawn,
Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the most
common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding your finger
on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat predictive 
algorithm.


Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Heyya:
I've tried it several times & am not able to get that to work for me. Yes,
doubletapp inserts period is & has been turned on in settings. I'll keep
fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and
tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always
and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure
you have this feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to
enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -
From: "Grant Hardy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

Grant

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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Shawn,
Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the most
common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding your finger
on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat predictive algorithm.

Jon
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Heyya:
I've tried it several times & am not able to get that to work for me. Yes,
doubletapp inserts period is & has been turned on in settings. I'll keep
fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour


> Hi Sean,
>
> You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and 
> tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always 
> and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure 
> you have this feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sean Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>
> I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to 
> enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Hardy" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
> Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour
>
>
>> Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
>> significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
>> punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
>> therefore am a fan of the changes.
>>
>> I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
>> would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
>> key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
>> retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
>> it.
>>
>> Grant
>>
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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Shawn,
The new keyboard behavior is nothing like Flexy, You can't have had any
success with it at all so far but it's definitely (next to Siri) the biggest
thing since slice bread or even apples.
It deserves many more tries and seems to give on average about a 3-fold
increase in speed for most of us.

Jon
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much
does the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types
it. So with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if the
keyboard does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to
install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second
time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change
pages if swiping left or right doesn't work?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul

Heyya:
I've tried it several times & am not able to get that to work for me. Yes, 
doubletapp inserts period is & has been turned on in settings. I'll keep 
fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and 
tapping

the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always and starts a
new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure you have this
feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to 
enter

the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -
From: "Grant Hardy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Rob Harris
This is one of the most succinct and meaningful descriptions of the change 
so far.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour


Hi,


I'm confused.  The IOS keyboard with Voiceover has had that overall ability 
since IOS 4.  Its just that now, you touch type includes shift, delete, more 
numbers, etc.  Fleksy is more about its capability to predict text.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  
wrote:

> Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much 
> does the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types 
> it. So with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if 
> the keyboard does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
> My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to 
> install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second 
> time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change 
> pages if swiping left or right doesn't work?
>
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
>
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,


I'm confused.  The IOS keyboard with Voiceover has had that overall ability 
since IOS 4.  Its just that now, you touch type includes shift, delete, more 
numbers, etc.  Fleksy is more about its capability to predict text.

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On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much does 
> the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types it. So 
> with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if the keyboard 
> does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
> My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to 
> install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second 
> time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change pages 
> if swiping left or right doesn't work?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
> 
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Rob Harris
Like all things - good hwen you know!  finding out is the thing.

Like - this has been a long thread so far, and this is the first time I saw 
a description.
- Original Message - 
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour


now you mention it, that is an improvement and I will get used to it! 
thanks.
On 20 Sep 2012, at 04:08, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Neil,
>
> I just discovered the same thing regarding the delete key. I wanted to
> delete the entire label in the edit field of the custom label and I 
> touched
> the delete key which deleted a letter, but holding on it did not delete 
> the
> rest rapidly as it used to do. However, as I was writing this to
> commiserate, the solution came to me and I just tried it and it works 
> fine.
> It's really simple because it's the same gesture than before. That means
> before you had to either double tap or split tap the delete key to delete
> and if you did that and held it would continue to delete quickly. Now find
> the delete key, once you lift up a letter is deleted. Now focus is on the
> delete key and you can simply double tap and hold and it will delete very
> fast as long as you keep holding your finger on the screen. This came to 
> me
> because I was wondering how I can turn on caps lock since now a single 
> touch
> of the Shift key activates it where before a double tap did and a triple 
> tap
> turned on Caps Lock. So I touched the shift key and then did a triple tap
> and that still turns on caps lock except that now to turn it off you only
> have to touch it once. I hope I am making sense here, but this I think is
> actually a good improvement.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much does 
the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types it. So 
with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if the keyboard 
does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to 
install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second time. 
I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change pages if 
swiping left or right doesn't work?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Michelle McQuigge
I was a fan of these changes from the start, and Sieghard's always
valuable insight just sealed the deal. Thanks all for the tips.


AppleGourmet wrote:
> Sieghard you are a genius!
> would anyone know of a manual which would describe all of these features? It 
> would be nice if there was one!
> Thank you!
> Avnish.

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread AppleGourmet
Sieghard you are a genius! 
would anyone know of a manual which would describe all of these features? It 
would be nice if there was one!
Thank you!
Avnish.

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
now you mention it, that is an improvement and I will get used to it! thanks.
On 20 Sep 2012, at 04:08, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> I just discovered the same thing regarding the delete key. I wanted to
> delete the entire label in the edit field of the custom label and I touched
> the delete key which deleted a letter, but holding on it did not delete the
> rest rapidly as it used to do. However, as I was writing this to
> commiserate, the solution came to me and I just tried it and it works fine.
> It's really simple because it's the same gesture than before. That means
> before you had to either double tap or split tap the delete key to delete
> and if you did that and held it would continue to delete quickly. Now find
> the delete key, once you lift up a letter is deleted. Now focus is on the
> delete key and you can simply double tap and hold and it will delete very
> fast as long as you keep holding your finger on the screen. This came to me
> because I was wondering how I can turn on caps lock since now a single touch
> of the Shift key activates it where before a double tap did and a triple tap
> turned on Caps Lock. So I touched the shift key and then did a triple tap
> and that still turns on caps lock except that now to turn it off you only
> have to touch it once. I hope I am making sense here, but this I think is
> actually a good improvement.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread James Mannion
That definitely makes sense. Thanks for sharing your findings. I
thought I liked the behavior better all accept for the delete key. You
have described the way to use this new functionality.  Thanks.

On 9/19/12, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Neil,
>
> I just discovered the same thing regarding the delete key. I wanted to
> delete the entire label in the edit field of the custom label and I touched
> the delete key which deleted a letter, but holding on it did not delete the
> rest rapidly as it used to do. However, as I was writing this to
> commiserate, the solution came to me and I just tried it and it works fine.
> It's really simple because it's the same gesture than before. That means
> before you had to either double tap or split tap the delete key to delete
> and if you did that and held it would continue to delete quickly. Now find
> the delete key, once you lift up a letter is deleted. Now focus is on the
> delete key and you can simply double tap and hold and it will delete very
> fast as long as you keep holding your finger on the screen. This came to me
> because I was wondering how I can turn on caps lock since now a single
> touch
> of the Shift key activates it where before a double tap did and a triple
> tap
> turned on Caps Lock. So I touched the shift key and then did a triple tap
> and that still turns on caps lock except that now to turn it off you only
> have to touch it once. I hope I am making sense here, but this I think is
> actually a good improvement.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and tapping
the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always and starts a
new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure you have this
feature turned on in "Settings" and "Keyboard".


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to enter
the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -
From: "Grant Hardy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour


> Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now 
> significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter 
> punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I 
> therefore am a fan of the changes.
>
> I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I 
> would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter 
> key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still 
> retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate 
> it.
>
> Grant
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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Neil,

I just discovered the same thing regarding the delete key. I wanted to
delete the entire label in the edit field of the custom label and I touched
the delete key which deleted a letter, but holding on it did not delete the
rest rapidly as it used to do. However, as I was writing this to
commiserate, the solution came to me and I just tried it and it works fine.
It's really simple because it's the same gesture than before. That means
before you had to either double tap or split tap the delete key to delete
and if you did that and held it would continue to delete quickly. Now find
the delete key, once you lift up a letter is deleted. Now focus is on the
delete key and you can simply double tap and hold and it will delete very
fast as long as you keep holding your finger on the screen. This came to me
because I was wondering how I can turn on caps lock since now a single touch
of the Shift key activates it where before a double tap did and a triple tap
turned on Caps Lock. So I touched the shift key and then did a triple tap
and that still turns on caps lock except that now to turn it off you only
have to touch it once. I hope I am making sense here, but this I think is
actually a good improvement.


Regards,
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Chris
Hello all yes I can type faster with the new keyboard behaviour although 
it takes some getting used to as now I cannot swipe to delete and double 
tap instead I have to touch delete and let go chat soon Chris.


On 19/09/2012 21:53, Sean Paul wrote:

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to
enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message - From: "Grant Hardy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

Grant

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Sean Paul
I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to enter 
the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message - 
From: "Grant Hardy" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

Grant

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Sean Paul

Can't triple tap the space bar to enter a period either best I can tell...
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On 9/19/12, Marc Rocheleau  wrote:

I hate it -- it was faster being able to split tap the delete key or
more numbers key even. All this does is slow touch typing down more,
imo.

-Marc


On 9/19/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  wrote:

How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch
typing?
I do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the
numbers, but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key.
especially as I used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot
of
text. this seems now to be very hap hazard.

others thoughts?

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Scott Howell
I like the new behavior and once you get used to it I think it will be more 
comfortable. Old habits will be a little hard to brake.

On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch typing? I 
> do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the numbers, 
> but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key. especially as I 
> used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot of text. this seems 
> now to be very hap hazard.
> 
> others thoughts?
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Grant Hardy
Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

Grant

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
you mean its more work than it used to be, not really a step forward on that 
specific item then.

Other than this, not much else to comment on in the negative, so, I'm not 
really displeased, but, things should not get worse in an update.
On 19 Sep 2012, at 20:12, "Raul A. Gallegos"  wrote:

> Hi, you can do a double-tap and hold somewhere other than the delete key and 
> then touch and hold the delete key and this should work.
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> On 9/19/2012 3:10 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>> How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch typing? 
>> I do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the 
>> numbers, but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key. 
>> especially as I used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot of 
>> text. this seems now to be very hap hazard.
>> 
>> others thoughts?
>> 
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Marc Rocheleau
I hate it -- it was faster being able to split tap the delete key or
more numbers key even. All this does is slow touch typing down more,
imo.

-Marc


On 9/19/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  wrote:
> How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch typing?
> I do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the
> numbers, but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key.
> especially as I used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot of
> text. this seems now to be very hap hazard.
>
> others thoughts?
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Marc Rocheleau
On 9/19/12, Marc Rocheleau  wrote:
> I hate it -- it was faster being able to split tap the delete key or
> more numbers key even. All this does is slow touch typing down more,
> imo.
>
> -Marc
>
>
> On 9/19/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  wrote:
>> How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch
>> typing?
>> I do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the
>> numbers, but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key.
>> especially as I used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot
>> of
>> text. this seems now to be very hap hazard.
>>
>> others thoughts?
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, you can do a double-tap and hold somewhere other than the delete key 
and then touch and hold the delete key and this should work.


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On 9/19/2012 3:10 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch typing? I 
do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the numbers, 
but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key. especially as I 
used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot of text. this seems now 
to be very hap hazard.

others thoughts?



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new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-19 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
How is everyone finding the new keyboard behaviour when using touch typing? I 
do not mind it for the caps lock, or more buttons for getting to the numbers, 
but, it seems to be now very difficult to use the delete key. especially as I 
used to like to press and hold delete if deleting a lot of text. this seems now 
to be very hap hazard.

others thoughts?

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