RE: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-05-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Rich,

I just downloaded Bispecular and while I had signed up for it in the past, I 
went through the sign up process out of curiocity and to see if I can replicate 
what some of you seem to experience.

When I first opened the app I was asked if I want to allow push notifications, 
I said "Allow"
On the next screen I found a "Sign Up" and a "Log In" button, clearly labelled 
and straight forward.
I tapped on Sign Up, the next screen had a Cancel button at the top left, then 
the heading "Sign Up" also on the top row.
Underneath it says "Please sign up to be part of Bispecular's awesome 
community".
Then it says "Account type" and this is followed by two buttons, Sighted and 
Visually Impaired and it seems the visually impaired button is selected by 
default.
After that it asks for first name and last name which are both normal edit 
fields.
Then next is "Pick your language" which says also "text field", but when I 
double tap on it it immediately put "English" in this text field and when I 
touch near the bottom of the screen above the home button it has a picker item 
which says "English, picker item, adjustable".
For me this only had "English" and with a flick up "Italiano" as the two 
choices. A flick left from English put me on the Done button which is standard 
procedure for picker items.
After I tapped done the next item which is the Age text field was already 
activated. It works the same way, the first choice "Less than 15" is inserted 
into the text field, but if you touch above the home button you have the picker 
item and flicking up gets you 20, 21-25, 26-40, 41-60 and 60 Plus as options. 
Flick to the one that applies to you, swipe left once and tap on "Done" and it 
moves on to the next required field which is email address. For me Voiceover 
correctly said "text field is editing, email, character mode, insertion point 
at start".



 the Age picker item, here it's automatically at the lowest setting, Less than 
15, if I flick up I get 20, then 21-25, 26-40, 41-60 and 60+, again the Done 
button is there a flick to the left.
After that there is only the password field, a confirm password field and a 
field which says "A short bio describing yourself, not required but appreciated 
by our VIP's".
At the very end is a proceed button, I didn't tap it since I was already 
registered, but certainly filling out the form seemed fully accessible and far 
from a ridiculous experience, it took me less than a minute.
At the beginning when I filled in my first name and swiped right assuming it 
would then go to last name it did seem to jump to password, but a quick 
3-finger tap in the middle of the screen told me I was on page 2 of 2, I did a 
swipe up with 3 fingers to go back to the first page, touched in the middle and 
immediately found the last name field.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rich De Steno
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

I also find that the BeSpecular sign-up is far from accessible. I have tried 
several times to complete all the edit boxes and pickers, but the labels for 
each item are not always read by Voiceover and I can never complete it 
successfully.  Thus, from my standpoint, this app has a long way to go for the 
blind.  The sign-up is ridiculous!


On 4/29/2017 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor wrote:
> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when 
> you have selected what you want.
> Judy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!
>>
>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>> figure!
>> Thanks for listening.
>> Jen
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-05-10 Thread Rich De Steno
I also find that the BeSpecular sign-up is far from accessible. I have 
tried several times to complete all the edit boxes and pickers, but the 
labels for each item are not always read by Voiceover and I can never 
complete it successfully.  Thus, from my standpoint, this app has a long 
way to go for the blind.  The sign-up is ridiculous!



On 4/29/2017 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor wrote:

I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you need 
to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when you 
have selected what you want.
Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or language 
pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if it doesn't 
work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite annoyed because I 
need someone to read a lcd display for me.
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
figure!
Thanks for listening.
Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Paul Ferrara
Jen, remember Be My Eyes finds people all over the world; if it's too early, 
they won't be available. My point--go ahead and try it; someone should be 
awake.


Thanks.

Paul

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From: Jenifer Barr

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
see.
Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later.

Thank you both for your responses.
Jen


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
when you have selected what you want.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age 
or language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do 
so if it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just 
quite annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even 
leave feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! 
lol. Go figure!

Thanks for listening.
Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi all.
Thank you for all of the great responses. 
Now I have choices... which I will take advantage of! (smile) 
Jen


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> On Apr 29, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi, I use Bespecuclar almost everyday.  I forgot how I signed up but, if 
> you can get past that.maybe getting some sighted assist, you will be 
> happy with the rest.  For the past 8 months, the average response time is 
> less than a minute.  I usually get about 3 responses and they are all quite 
> good people.  So, what I am saying here that if you need to have someone help 
> sign up, the rest is happy days.  Andy and Shubert
> p.s. I love Bespecular so much and believe in it so much that I am doing a 
> show on our local Access TV with the Lions Club at the end of May.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Judy Pryor
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!
> 
> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when 
> you have selected what you want.
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!
>> 
>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>> figure!
>> Thanks for listening.
>> Jen
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
   Hi, I use Bespecuclar almost everyday.  I forgot how I signed up but, if 
you can get past that.maybe getting some sighted assist, you will be 
happy with the rest.  For the past 8 months, the average response time is 
less than a minute.  I usually get about 3 responses and they are all quite 
good people.  So, what I am saying here that if you need to have someone 
help sign up, the rest is happy days.  Andy and Shubert
p.s. I love Bespecular so much and believe in it so much that I am doing a 
show on our local Access TV with the Lions Club at the end of May.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Pryor

Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
when you have selected what you want.

Judy

Sent from my iPhone


On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol!

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so 
if it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just 
quite annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me.
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
figure!

Thanks for listening.
Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Judy Pryor
You could try emailing them. At cont...@bespecular.com
I wish I could remember how I did it.
Judy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:04, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
> see. 
> Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
> bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
> Thank you both for your responses. 
> Jen
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
>> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
>> when you have selected what you want. 
>> Judy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>>> figure!
>>> Thanks for listening. 
>>> Jen
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Jen,
Don't worry about bothering people! recently many of us received emails from Be 
My Eyes saying "please use it!" They have too many volunteers who have never 
actually received a request for assistance. in order to keep it alive, they 
really want us to use it! Plus, the volunteers can choose not to answer… I have 
only used it a few times, but every time the person was absolutely delighted to 
receive a call. Plus, it is diverted around the globe, so, no matter what time 
you use the app, you won't be waking someone up!

go for it! Sandy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:04, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we 
> see. 
> Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
> bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
> Thank you both for your responses. 
> Jen
> 
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>> On Apr 29, 2017, at 7:00 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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>> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
>> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker 
>> when you have selected what you want. 
>> Judy
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>>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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>>> Hi all.
>>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>>> figure!
>>> Thanks for listening. 
>>> Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi Judy. There is no done button... it's not a picker like normal ones we see. 
Sandy... I have used be my eyes but it was really early and I didn't want to 
bother anyone. lol. I may have to do that though a little later. 
Thank you both for your responses. 
Jen


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> I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you 
> need to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when 
> you have selected what you want. 
> Judy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
>> 
>> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for 
>> the visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
>> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
>> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
>> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
>> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
>> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
>> figure!
>> Thanks for listening. 
>> Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Judy Pryor
I have the app but havnt used it yet. When you get to the picker items you need 
to press the done button Which is usually on the left of the picker when you 
have selected what you want. 
Judy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi all.
> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
> 
> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
> visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
> figure!
> Thanks for listening. 
> Jen
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Re: quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Jen,
It's Sandy again! I find be my eyes is the most useful of  all these  sighted 
assistance apps. you don't have to get a perfect shot for the help to be 
helpful. because the app uses the back facing camera in video mode, your 
assistant can just say "move it to the left" et cetera and then can read the 
screen for you. have you tried it?t
Good luck, Sandy

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> On 29 Apr 2017, at 11:23, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 
> 
> I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
> visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or 
> language pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if 
> it doesn't work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite 
> annoyed because I need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
> Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
> feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
> figure!
> Thanks for listening. 
> Jen
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quite annoyed with bespecular!

2017-04-29 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi all.
First let me appologize for the rant I may go on. lol! 

I'm trying to sign up with bespecular, because after all it is an app for the 
visually impaired, right? lol. So anyway I can't use the stupid age or language 
pickers! Ha! So how is an app that is supposed to help us do so if it doesn't 
work with voiceover to even sign up? I'm sorry I'm just quite annoyed because I 
need someone to read a lcd display for me. 
Ok rant over. Can anyone confirm this issue I'm having? I can't even leave 
feedback because the only options I have are to sign up or log in! lol. Go 
figure!
Thanks for listening. 
Jen
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