RE: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Richard Turner]

My hopefully last point.

On February 11th, you said in part: “97% of users of my app on Apple devices 
aren't VoiceOver users and the same is for 89% of users on Android devices.”

Since you have to prove that you are print disabled to use Bookshare, and while 
a lot of the people who do use Bookshare are probably not blind or low-vision 
but have dyslexia, it could very well be that the bulk of your user base are 
liking your app because they don’t have to strain to read on their device, but 
also do not qualify, or have not decided to pay for the Bookshare service.

 

Have you done any studies/surveys to determine from where your users get their 
material?

 

Take care,

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ivan Icin
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 8:09 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

Richard,

 

thanks for providing this additional information and for your encouragement 
regarding this.

 

I did implement Bookshare functionality previously because quite a few people 
asked for it at that time. Certainly some of them did use the app with 
Bookshare, but based on the statistics it is likely that most didn't. 

 

The feature was available for 7 years until January 20th this year. I do agree 
that future and new circumstances may require for me to revisit this question. 
It is just that this will require a notable effort and as such until there is a 
sign of actual interest it is better to focus on other things... 

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 4:33:34 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

Very interesting.

I have seen people say they would consider Speech Central if the Bookshare 
download was implemented…  If I understood you correctly, you think people are 
just saying that they want the bookshare download but are not actually 
considering your app.  

I suspect a lot more would use your app if the Bookshare download was 
available, especially if they cannot afford the subscription rate for Voice 
Dream.

 

IN the long run, of course, no one app will meet everyone’s needs or wants.  
That why it is good to have choices.

 

Good luck,

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ivan 
Icin
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 7:22 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

I am sorry, I have ignored this part of the feedback because that's actually 
possible, maybe some improvements in some specific use cases are still needed.

I do agree on your points though. This proves something that I have learned 
over the time - most of people suggesting the Bookshare support aren't actually 
interested in using the app as they have settled their choices and invested a 
lot of time into them. Nothing wrong from their side as those suggestions were 
made with good intentions, just it took me years and much of wasted work to 
understand that.

 

Thanks.

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 4:01:17 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

>From my message to Greg that you quoted in that string I said:

 

I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.

 

This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering with it 
again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.

 

I download way more than 10 things a month.

End quote.

 

Now, as to your question if you implemented everything I said would I consider 
using your app for my daily needs, no.  I know Voice Dream Reader well enough 
to just about use it in my sleep and am not willing to take the time to learn a 
completely different way to get material I can get now with almost no effort at 
all.

 

And, I think others who are motivated to use your app can give you lots more 
feedback without me taking my time to delve more deeply into an app I have no 
intension of using.

 

I do a lot more in helping others with lots of other things and honestly do not 
have the time to spend digging into the details of your app.

 

Thanks for asking.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you wi

Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Ivan Icin]

Richard,

thanks for providing this additional information and for your encouragement 
regarding this.

I did implement Bookshare functionality previously because quite a few 
people asked for it at that time. Certainly some of them did use the app 
with Bookshare, but based on the statistics it is likely that most didn't. 

The feature was available for 7 years until January 20th this year. I do 
agree that future and new circumstances may require for me to revisit this 
question. It is just that this will require a notable effort and as such 
until there is a sign of actual interest it is better to focus on other 
things... 
On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 4:33:34 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

> Very interesting.
>
> I have seen people say they would consider Speech Central if the Bookshare 
> download was implemented…  If I understood you correctly, you think people 
> are just saying that they want the bookshare download but are not actually 
> considering your app.  
>
> I suspect a lot more would use your app if the Bookshare download was 
> available, especially if they cannot afford the subscription rate for Voice 
> Dream.
>
>  
>
> IN the long run, of course, no one app will meet everyone’s needs or 
> wants.  That why it is good to have choices.
>
>  
>
> Good luck,
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
> get it.”
>
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
>  
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>  
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
>
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Ivan 
> Icin
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 7:22 AM
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Subject:* Re: speech Central and Bookshare question
>
>  
>
> I am sorry, I have ignored this part of the feedback because that's 
> actually possible, maybe some improvements in some specific use cases are 
> still needed.
>
> I do agree on your points though. This proves something that I have 
> learned over the time - most of people suggesting the Bookshare support 
> aren't actually interested in using the app as they have settled their 
> choices and invested a lot of time into them. Nothing wrong from their side 
> as those suggestions were made with good intentions, just it took me years 
> and much of wasted work to understand that.
>
>  
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 4:01:17 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:
>
> From my message to Greg that you quoted in that string I said:
>
>  
>
> I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.
>
>  
>
> This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering 
> with it again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.
>
>  
>
> I download way more than 10 things a month.
>
> End quote.
>
>  
>
> Now, as to your question if you implemented everything I said would I 
> consider using your app for my daily needs, no.  I know Voice Dream Reader 
> well enough to just about use it in my sleep and am not willing to take the 
> time to learn a completely different way to get material I can get now with 
> almost no effort at all.
>
>  
>
> And, I think others who are motivated to use your app can give you lots 
> more feedback without me taking my time to delve more deeply into an app I 
> have no intension of using.
>
>  
>
> I do a lot more in helping others with lots of other things and honestly 
> do not have the time to spend digging into the details of your app.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for asking.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
> get it.”
>
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
>  
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>  
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
>
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Ivan 
> Icin
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 5:24 AM
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Subject:* Re: speech Central and Bookshare question
>
>  
>
> Richard,
>
>  
>
> I would like some feedback from your testing.
>
>  
>
> If you have some suggestion on things that could be improved for the 
> VoiceOver users in general such feedback is implemented usually within one 
> week. Most recent example is that one user has suggested today 

RE: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Richard Turner]

Very interesting.

I have seen people say they would consider Speech Central if the Bookshare 
download was implemented…  If I understood you correctly, you think people are 
just saying that they want the bookshare download but are not actually 
considering your app.  

I suspect a lot more would use your app if the Bookshare download was 
available, especially if they cannot afford the subscription rate for Voice 
Dream.

 

IN the long run, of course, no one app will meet everyone’s needs or wants.  
That why it is good to have choices.

 

Good luck,

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ivan Icin
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 7:22 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

I am sorry, I have ignored this part of the feedback because that's actually 
possible, maybe some improvements in some specific use cases are still needed.

I do agree on your points though. This proves something that I have learned 
over the time - most of people suggesting the Bookshare support aren't actually 
interested in using the app as they have settled their choices and invested a 
lot of time into them. Nothing wrong from their side as those suggestions were 
made with good intentions, just it took me years and much of wasted work to 
understand that.

 

Thanks.

On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 4:01:17 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

>From my message to Greg that you quoted in that string I said:

 

I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.

 

This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering with it 
again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.

 

I download way more than 10 things a month.

End quote.

 

Now, as to your question if you implemented everything I said would I consider 
using your app for my daily needs, no.  I know Voice Dream Reader well enough 
to just about use it in my sleep and am not willing to take the time to learn a 
completely different way to get material I can get now with almost no effort at 
all.

 

And, I think others who are motivated to use your app can give you lots more 
feedback without me taking my time to delve more deeply into an app I have no 
intension of using.

 

I do a lot more in helping others with lots of other things and honestly do not 
have the time to spend digging into the details of your app.

 

Thanks for asking.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ivan 
Icin
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 5:24 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

Richard,

 

I would like some feedback from your testing.

 

If you have some suggestion on things that could be improved for the VoiceOver 
users in general such feedback is implemented usually within one week. Most 
recent example is that one user has suggested today that he doesn't like the 
position of VoiceOver cursor in the text after the app reads the text and I 
have changed the scrolling default for VoiceOver users so that the current 
paragraph is scrolled to the top so VoiceOver would read that paragraph first 
(that was possible to manually set before but honestly if someone figured that 
out he was a real expert in accessibility). The example from few weeks before 
is that user has suggested that the player in the new version can't be easily 
dismissed and it was improved immediately so that it can be dismissed with the 
double finger Z gesture. I did note that you had a problem with skip 
forward/rewind buttons and I believe that this is fixed too (but this problem 
wasn't particularly related to VoiceOver).

 

Even if you don't expect to use the app there are many people that do and your 
suggestions will help them to have a better experience.

 

Regarding the Bookshare support I would like your honest opinion if such 
support existed whether you would consider my app for your personal use / 
recommend it as one of valid options for such a use case. I like to stand 
firmly with my promises so I can't promise anything yet, but I do reevaluate 
this and it may be possible to have such supp

Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Ivan Icin]

I am sorry, I have ignored this part of the feedback because that's 
actually possible, maybe some improvements in some specific use cases are 
still needed.

I do agree on your points though. This proves something that I have learned 
over the time - most of people suggesting the Bookshare support aren't 
actually interested in using the app as they have settled their choices and 
invested a lot of time into them. Nothing wrong from their side as those 
suggestions were made with good intentions, just it took me years and much 
of wasted work to understand that.

Thanks.
On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 4:01:17 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

> From my message to Greg that you quoted in that string I said:
>
>  
>
> I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.
>
>  
>
> This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering 
> with it again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.
>
>  
>
> I download way more than 10 things a month.
>
> End quote.
>
>  
>
> Now, as to your question if you implemented everything I said would I 
> consider using your app for my daily needs, no.  I know Voice Dream Reader 
> well enough to just about use it in my sleep and am not willing to take the 
> time to learn a completely different way to get material I can get now with 
> almost no effort at all.
>
>  
>
> And, I think others who are motivated to use your app can give you lots 
> more feedback without me taking my time to delve more deeply into an app I 
> have no intension of using.
>
>  
>
> I do a lot more in helping others with lots of other things and honestly 
> do not have the time to spend digging into the details of your app.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for asking.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
> get it.”
>
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
>  
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>  
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
>
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Ivan 
> Icin
> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 5:24 AM
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Subject:* Re: speech Central and Bookshare question
>
>  
>
> Richard,
>
>  
>
> I would like some feedback from your testing.
>
>  
>
> If you have some suggestion on things that could be improved for the 
> VoiceOver users in general such feedback is implemented usually within one 
> week. Most recent example is that one user has suggested today that he 
> doesn't like the position of VoiceOver cursor in the text after the app 
> reads the text and I have changed the scrolling default for VoiceOver users 
> so that the current paragraph is scrolled to the top so VoiceOver would 
> read that paragraph first (that was possible to manually set before but 
> honestly if someone figured that out he was a real expert in 
> accessibility). The example from few weeks before is that user has 
> suggested that the player in the new version can't be easily dismissed and 
> it was improved immediately so that it can be dismissed with the double 
> finger Z gesture. I did note that you had a problem with skip 
> forward/rewind buttons and I believe that this is fixed too (but this 
> problem wasn't particularly related to VoiceOver).
>
>  
>
> Even if you don't expect to use the app there are many people that do and 
> your suggestions will help them to have a better experience.
>
>  
>
> Regarding the Bookshare support I would like your honest opinion if such 
> support existed whether you would consider my app for your personal use / 
> recommend it as one of valid options for such a use case. I like to stand 
> firmly with my promises so I can't promise anything yet, but I do 
> reevaluate this and it may be possible to have such support later this year.
>
> On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 8:16:31 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:
>
> Thanks Greg.
>
> After going through too many hoops, I got a book in ePub format into 
> Speech Central.
>
>  
>
> I will not do that again until direct downloading from Bookshare.org is 
> put into the app.
>
>  
>
> I also find the app continually dumping me out of the app when I try to 
> skip forward 60 seconds, or sometimes when double tapping on the next 
> button.
>
>  
>
> I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.
>
>  
>
> This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering 
> with it again until and 

RE: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Richard Turner]

>From my message to Greg that you quoted in that string I said:

 

I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.

 

This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering with it 
again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.

 

I download way more than 10 things a month.

End quote.

 

Now, as to your question if you implemented everything I said would I consider 
using your app for my daily needs, no.  I know Voice Dream Reader well enough 
to just about use it in my sleep and am not willing to take the time to learn a 
completely different way to get material I can get now with almost no effort at 
all.

 

And, I think others who are motivated to use your app can give you lots more 
feedback without me taking my time to delve more deeply into an app I have no 
intension of using.

 

I do a lot more in helping others with lots of other things and honestly do not 
have the time to spend digging into the details of your app.

 

Thanks for asking.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ivan Icin
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 5:24 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

Richard,

 

I would like some feedback from your testing.

 

If you have some suggestion on things that could be improved for the VoiceOver 
users in general such feedback is implemented usually within one week. Most 
recent example is that one user has suggested today that he doesn't like the 
position of VoiceOver cursor in the text after the app reads the text and I 
have changed the scrolling default for VoiceOver users so that the current 
paragraph is scrolled to the top so VoiceOver would read that paragraph first 
(that was possible to manually set before but honestly if someone figured that 
out he was a real expert in accessibility). The example from few weeks before 
is that user has suggested that the player in the new version can't be easily 
dismissed and it was improved immediately so that it can be dismissed with the 
double finger Z gesture. I did note that you had a problem with skip 
forward/rewind buttons and I believe that this is fixed too (but this problem 
wasn't particularly related to VoiceOver).

 

Even if you don't expect to use the app there are many people that do and your 
suggestions will help them to have a better experience.

 

Regarding the Bookshare support I would like your honest opinion if such 
support existed whether you would consider my app for your personal use / 
recommend it as one of valid options for such a use case. I like to stand 
firmly with my promises so I can't promise anything yet, but I do reevaluate 
this and it may be possible to have such support later this year.

On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 8:16:31 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Greg.

After going through too many hoops, I got a book in ePub format into Speech 
Central.

 

I will not do that again until direct downloading from Bookshare.org is put 
into the app.

 

I also find the app continually dumping me out of the app when I try to skip 
forward 60 seconds, or sometimes when double tapping on the next button.

 

I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.

 

This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering with it 
again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.

 

I download way more than 10 things a month.

 

Greg, thanks again for your help.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Greg 
Wocher
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:32 AM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

Hello,

In order for speech central to see it, you need to download the book in epub 
format. Once you do this choose the add option from the main screen in the 
speech central app. Next choose the import option and this should open up an 
interface to the files app on your iPad. Now the file might be listed under the 
recents section or you might have to go to the browse tab at the bottom to look 
for the folder where the file down

Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Ivan Icin]

Richard,

I would like some feedback from your testing.

If you have some suggestion on things that could be improved for the 
VoiceOver users in general such feedback is implemented usually within one 
week. Most recent example is that one user has suggested today that he 
doesn't like the position of VoiceOver cursor in the text after the app 
reads the text and I have changed the scrolling default for VoiceOver users 
so that the current paragraph is scrolled to the top so VoiceOver would 
read that paragraph first (that was possible to manually set before but 
honestly if someone figured that out he was a real expert in 
accessibility). The example from few weeks before is that user has 
suggested that the player in the new version can't be easily dismissed and 
it was improved immediately so that it can be dismissed with the double 
finger Z gesture. I did note that you had a problem with skip 
forward/rewind buttons and I believe that this is fixed too (but this 
problem wasn't particularly related to VoiceOver).

Even if you don't expect to use the app there are many people that do and 
your suggestions will help them to have a better experience.

Regarding the Bookshare support I would like your honest opinion if such 
support existed whether you would consider my app for your personal use / 
recommend it as one of valid options for such a use case. I like to stand 
firmly with my promises so I can't promise anything yet, but I do 
reevaluate this and it may be possible to have such support later this year.

On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 8:16:31 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:

> Thanks Greg.
>
> After going through too many hoops, I got a book in ePub format into 
> Speech Central.
>
>  
>
> I will not do that again until direct downloading from Bookshare.org is 
> put into the app.
>
>  
>
> I also find the app continually dumping me out of the app when I try to 
> skip forward 60 seconds, or sometimes when double tapping on the next 
> button.
>
>  
>
> I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.
>
>  
>
> This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering 
> with it again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.
>
>  
>
> I download way more than 10 things a month.
>
>  
>
> Greg, thanks again for your help.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to 
> get it.”
>
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
>  
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
>  
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
>
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Greg 
> Wocher
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:32 AM
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: speech Central and Bookshare question
>
>  
>
> Hello,
>
> In order for speech central to see it, you need to download the book in 
> epub format. Once you do this choose the add option from the main screen in 
> the speech central app. Next choose the import option and this should open 
> up an interface to the files app on your iPad. Now the file might be listed 
> under the recents section or you might have to go to the browse tab at the 
> bottom to look for the folder where the file downloaded to. Once you find 
> the book you should just have to double tap on it to import it into speech 
> central.
>
>  
>
> Greg Wocher
>
>  
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:47 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
>  
>
> I just tried downloading a book from Bookshare.org <http://bookshare.org/>
>  on my  iPad Mini 6.
>
> It downloaded through Edge (my browser of choice) just fine.
>
> I cannot figure out a way to get it into the Speech Central app.
>
>  
>
> It doesn’t seem to see it.
>
> Does it have to be unzipped?  What exactly should one do to get it into 
> the Books and articles section of Speech Central?
>
>  
>
> Confusedly,
>
> Richard, USA
>
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
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RE: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Greg.

After going through too many hoops, I got a book in ePub format into Speech 
Central.

 

I will not do that again until direct downloading from Bookshare.org is put 
into the app.

 

I also find the app continually dumping me out of the app when I try to skip 
forward 60 seconds, or sometimes when double tapping on the next button.

 

I wish Ivan would implement navigating by headings at the very least.

 

This app may be fine if you have some vision, but I won’t be bothering with it 
again until and unless direct download at least is added back in.

 

I download way more than 10 things a month.

 

Greg, thanks again for your help.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Greg 
Wocher
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

 

Hello,

In order for speech central to see it, you need to download the book in epub 
format. Once you do this choose the add option from the main screen in the 
speech central app. Next choose the import option and this should open up an 
interface to the files app on your iPad. Now the file might be listed under the 
recents section or you might have to go to the browse tab at the bottom to look 
for the folder where the file downloaded to. Once you find the book you should 
just have to double tap on it to import it into speech central.

 

Greg Wocher

 





On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:47 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

I just tried downloading a book from Bookshare.org <http://bookshare.org/>  on 
my  iPad Mini 6.

It downloaded through Edge (my browser of choice) just fine.

I cannot figure out a way to get it into the Speech Central app.

 

It doesn’t seem to see it.

Does it have to be unzipped?  What exactly should one do to get it into the 
Books and articles section of Speech Central?

 

Confusedly,

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

 

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Re: speech Central and Bookshare question

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
In order for speech central to see it, you need to download the book in epub 
format. Once you do this choose the add option from the main screen in the 
speech central app. Next choose the import option and this should open up an 
interface to the files app on your iPad. Now the file might be listed under the 
recents section or you might have to go to the browse tab at the bottom to look 
for the folder where the file downloaded to. Once you find the book you should 
just have to double tap on it to import it into speech central.

Greg Wocher


> On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:47 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I just tried downloading a book from Bookshare.org  on 
> my  iPad Mini 6.
> It downloaded through Edge (my browser of choice) just fine.
> I cannot figure out a way to get it into the Speech Central app.
>  
> It doesn’t seem to see it.
> Does it have to be unzipped?  What exactly should one do to get it into the 
> Books and articles section of Speech Central?
>  
> Confusedly,
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
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speech Central and Bookshare question

[Richard Turner]

I just tried downloading a book from Bookshare.org on my  iPad Mini 6.

It downloaded through Edge (my browser of choice) just fine.

I cannot figure out a way to get it into the Speech Central app.

 

It doesn't seem to see it.

Does it have to be unzipped?  What exactly should one do to get it into the
Books and articles section of Speech Central?

 

Confusedly,

Richard, USA

"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
it."

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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