RE: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-07 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Yes, but then, I'd need to know how to set my message rules for my boxes, and, 
well, you're right, I am sure that is going to eventually have to happen. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on the google groups saga

One way to get around this is to have a Gmail account.
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: update on the google groups saga


A helpful person with the lists did some checking for me, and it seems that 
the @group.io is blocked as several servers, like AOL, and my server said 
that for the time being, it must be "black listed," since none of the mail 
is showing on my web site emails. So, I hope time will solve the problem.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on the google groups saga

You have a log in that you use to manage your Google Groups. This log on 
doesn't have to be the same email address you use to subscribe to a 
particular group. One of the options in My Membership and Email Settings for 
This List under My Settings is to specify the email address you use to send 
and receive posts for the list. You could use a different email address for 
every group if you wanted to.


On 08/06/2018 08:01 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone wrote:
> the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom 
> of every email it takes me to the group, but it says I'm logged in with an 
> email address I'm not even subscribed with.
>
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>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
>> since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just 
>> fine, as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server 
>> tomorrow - yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then 
>> something has to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I 
>> hope the server and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, 
>> I still have the same problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: update on the google groups saga
>>
>> Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the 
>> membership list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail 
>> from there.  Don’t know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will 
>> correct the issue that I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought 
>> as when I’d go online logging in to the google groups web site under my 
>> icloud account that I set up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any 
>> groups at all.
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Re: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-07 Thread Andy Baracco

One way to get around this is to have a Gmail account.
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: update on the google groups saga


A helpful person with the lists did some checking for me, and it seems that 
the @group.io is blocked as several servers, like AOL, and my server said 
that for the time being, it must be "black listed," since none of the mail 
is showing on my web site emails. So, I hope time will solve the problem.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on the google groups saga

You have a log in that you use to manage your Google Groups. This log on 
doesn't have to be the same email address you use to subscribe to a 
particular group. One of the options in My Membership and Email Settings for 
This List under My Settings is to specify the email address you use to send 
and receive posts for the list. You could use a different email address for 
every group if you wanted to.



On 08/06/2018 08:01 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone wrote:
the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom 
of every email it takes me to the group, but it says I'm logged in with an 
email address I'm not even subscribed with.


Want a place to chat and meet new friends?
join the Blind Chatroom!
blind-chatroom+subscr...@groups.io

On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:


And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just 
fine, as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server 
tomorrow - yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then 
something has to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I 
hope the server and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, 
I still have the same problem.


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the 
membership list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail 
from there.  Don’t know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will 
correct the issue that I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought 
as when I’d go online logging in to the google groups web site under my 
icloud account that I set up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any 
groups at all.


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RE: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-07 Thread Carolyn Arnold
A helpful person with the lists did some checking for me, and it seems that the 
@group.io is blocked as several servers, like AOL, and my server said that for 
the time being, it must be "black listed," since none of the mail is showing on 
my web site emails. So, I hope time will solve the problem. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on the google groups saga

You have a log in that you use to manage your Google Groups. This log on 
doesn't have to be the same email address you use to subscribe to a particular 
group. One of the options in My Membership and Email Settings for This List 
under My Settings is to specify the email address you use to send and receive 
posts for the list. You could use a different email address for every group if 
you wanted to.


On 08/06/2018 08:01 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone wrote:
> the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom of 
> every email it takes me to the group, but it says I'm logged in with an email 
> address I'm not even subscribed with.
>
> Want a place to chat and meet new friends?
> join the Blind Chatroom!
> blind-chatroom+subscr...@groups.io
>
>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
>> since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, 
>> as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - 
>> yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has 
>> to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server 
>> and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the 
>> same problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: update on the google groups saga
>>
>> Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership 
>> list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  
>> Don’t know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the 
>> issue that I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go 
>> online logging in to the google groups web site under my icloud account that 
>> I set up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.
>>
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RE: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Exactly, I assume you are logged in with a gmail address which is your Google 
account, this is the same for me, I am using a gmail address as my Google 
account Id, but use siegh...@live.ca as the address where I am receiving 
messages.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on the google groups saga

You have a log in that you use to manage your Google Groups. This log on 
doesn't have to be the same email address you use to subscribe to a 
particular group. One of the options in My Membership and Email Settings 
for This List under My Settings is to specify the email address you use 
to send and receive posts for the list. You could use a different email 
address for every group if you wanted to.


On 08/06/2018 08:01 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone wrote:
> the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom of 
> every email it takes me to the group, but it says I'm logged in with an email 
> address I'm not even subscribed with.
>
> Want a place to chat and meet new friends?
> join the Blind Chatroom!
> blind-chatroom+subscr...@groups.io
>
>> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
>> since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, 
>> as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - 
>> yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has 
>> to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server 
>> and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the 
>> same problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: update on the google groups saga
>>
>> Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership 
>> list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  
>> Don’t know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the 
>> issue that I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go 
>> online logging in to the google groups web site under my icloud account that 
>> I set up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.
>>
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Re: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You have a log in that you use to manage your Google Groups. This log on 
doesn't have to be the same email address you use to subscribe to a 
particular group. One of the options in My Membership and Email Settings 
for This List under My Settings is to specify the email address you use 
to send and receive posts for the list. You could use a different email 
address for every group if you wanted to.



On 08/06/2018 08:01 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone wrote:

the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom of 
every email it takes me to the group, but it says I'm logged in with an email 
address I'm not even subscribed with.

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On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming since 
we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, as well 
as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - yuck - Home 
page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has to be clicked. 
I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server and I can manage 
it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the same problem.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  Don’t know 
if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that I’m 
having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go online logging in 
to the google groups web site under my icloud account that I set up there it 
doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.

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Re: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone
the weird thing is that when i click the link to the group at the bottom of 
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> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming 
> since we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, 
> as well as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - 
> yuck - Home page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has 
> to be clicked. I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server 
> and I can manage it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the 
> same problem. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Carolyn 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: update on the google groups saga
> 
> Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership 
> list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  Don’t 
> know if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that 
> I’m having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I’d go online 
> logging in to the google groups web site under my icloud account that I set 
> up there it doesn’t show me subscribed to any groups at all.  
> 
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RE: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread Carolyn Arnold
And, I'm having problem getting my io group messages; they are not coming since 
we had a bad storm Friday, but the Google groups are coming just fine, as well 
as my personal emails. I'll have to get with the server tomorrow - yuck - Home 
page, server site, password, all that stuff, then something has to be clicked. 
I hope I don't have to get Jim to help me. I hope the server and I can manage 
it all. Regardless of how annoyed I am, I still have the same problem. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
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Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.  Don’t know 
if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that I’m 
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Re: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone
Thanks so much Mark. Thank you all for bearing with me. I will be excited to 
come back when I return from training. 

Rebecca Ilniski
email: rilni...@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Aug 6, 2018, at 12:46 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Rebecca,  

Okay, I had the incorrect email address for you.  

I can, in fact, see your iCloud email address in the database.  

I am posting this before I set you to no mail status so that everyone can see 
this reply.  

I will now contact you, off-list, as well.

Mark


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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 9:05 AM
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Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
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RE: update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Rebecca,  

Okay, I had the incorrect email address for you.  

I can, in fact, see your iCloud email address in the database.  

I am posting this before I set you to no mail status so that everyone can see 
this reply.  

I will now contact you, off-list, as well.

Mark


From: 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update on the google groups saga

Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn’t show up in the membership list 
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if I’d get double messages that way or if it will correct the issue that I’m 
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update on the google groups saga

2018-08-06 Thread 'Rebecca Ilniski' via VIPhone
Hi all.  I decided that since my address doesn't show up in the membership
list that I would try and rejoin and then try to go nomail from there.
Don't know if I'd get double messages that way or if it will correct the
issue that I'm having.  We shall see.  It was just a thought as when I'd go
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I set up there it doesn't show me subscribed to any groups at all.  

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