RE: Phones manufactured.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

Look does it really matter where devices are made?

Cloths are made in Asian countries also,
 And if we start complaining where these devices are made 

And the creation locations change then that means people in those initial 
countries lose jobs,
Prices go up for the devices,
 Everyone needs to live and these devices being created in china gives the 
Chinese a chance to earn and live.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

I totally agree. Prior to becoming an iPhone user I would have to purchase an 
external software to download to my phone so that I could then only have access 
to some of the phone's features. That software was almost $300. This was $300 
after first having purchased the phone. Now my iPhone comes equipped right from 
the box with what I need to operate it independent of any external software or 
add-ons. This has changed my life and has allowed me to do so much 
independently and now I don't have to ask for assistance from someone else to 
get things done. Yes, there will be glitches but I can live through them. 

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Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:39 PM
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Honestly, I personally could care less where my iPhone was made.  All I know is 
how much easier my life has become since I purchased and learned to use my 
iPhone.  It is so much fun to be able to not only make phone calls to do things 
like order pizza which I did a few hours ago, but to also listen to books, send 
text messages, and listen to OTR shows, listen to music, and to read Ebooks.  I 
know people are concerned because of the Virus, but that isn't a good enough 
reason to give up your iPhone.

On 5/4/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Urban Legends are hard to kill.
> Most smart phones, Android or Apple are made in China, as Charles said.
> Yes, some are made in a couple other countries, but this sounds like 
> the kind of thing that gets started, and people who do not bother to 
> do their homework believe it and pass it along.
> So, good for you for asking.
> Here is a link to a very long article that will help expand on this topic.
>
> https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> androidauthority.com%2Fwhere-smartphones-are-made-707989%2Fdata=0
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>
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
> happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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> On May 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> 
> It depends on the manufacturer, but a lot of  Android phones are 
> manufactured in china. Other locations include Taiwan and South Korea, 
> and I'm sure there are more.
>
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> Subject: Phones manufactored.
>
> A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are 
> flocking to buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because 
> they are made in China.
>
> I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android 
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RE: Phones manufactored.

[Simon A Fogarty]

Googles American,
Samsungs Korean 
HTC I think is Korean,
Huwaei  or however it's spelt is Chinese 
Nokia is now made in Canada I believe
So go figure 

Yes iPhones are made in china but so is most of the technology these days,

 HP have a major factory  the same province as the covid19 virus came out of,
Dell have a factory  in a near by region of china
 As do apple as well.


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A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are flocking 
to buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because they are made in 
China. 

I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android phones 
manufactured? 

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RE: Phones manufactored.

[chaltain]

Not that it's important, but although google is an American company, none of 
it's phones are manufactured in America. Similarly, Samsung is a South Korean 
company, but has manufacturing plants in Vietnam. HTC is Taiwanese. Huawei is 
Chinese and has most of their manufacturing in china. Nokia phones are now from 
HMD Global, which is a Finnish company but has manufacturing in china, Vietnam 
and so on.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:00 AM
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> 
> Googles American,
> Samsungs Korean
> HTC I think is Korean,
> Huwaei  or however it's spelt is Chinese Nokia is now made in Canada I believe
> So go figure
> 
> Yes iPhones are made in china but so is most of the technology these days,
> 
>  HP have a major factory  the same province as the covid19 virus came out of,
> Dell have a factory  in a near by region of china  As do apple as well.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Carolyn
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 12:31 PM
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> Subject: Phones manufactored.
> 
> A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are 
> flocking to
> buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because they are made in
> China.
> 
> I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android phones
> manufactured?
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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Don Moore]

For quite a while, Apple was looking at other countries to manufacture their 
products.  This was being done as I recall in the late Summer early autumn.  



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chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:57 AM
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Not that it's important, but although google is an American company, none of 
it's phones are manufactured in America. Similarly, Samsung is a South Korean 
company, but has manufacturing plants in Vietnam. HTC is Taiwanese. Huawei is 
Chinese and has most of their manufacturing in china. Nokia phones are now from 
HMD Global, which is a Finnish company but has manufacturing in china, Vietnam 
and so on.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Phones manufactored.
> 
> Googles American,
> Samsungs Korean
> HTC I think is Korean,
> Huwaei  or however it's spelt is Chinese Nokia is now made in Canada I believe
> So go figure
> 
> Yes iPhones are made in china but so is most of the technology these days,
> 
>  HP have a major factory  the same province as the covid19 virus came out of,
> Dell have a factory  in a near by region of china  As do apple as well.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Carolyn
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phones manufactored.
> 
> A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are 
> flocking to
> buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because they are made in
> China.
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> manufactured?
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Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder

[Richard Turner]

one thing to check, have you noticed if in the mail app, your account is listed 
twice?
One that says collapsed?
If so, double tap so it is expanded, and the subfolders will show up.
At least, that is how I get my outlook folders to show up.


Richard
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just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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On May 4, 2020, at 10:12 PM, Mike B.  wrote:


Hi All,

My better half & I upgraded to the new SE 2020 iPhone today.  Well, in the Mail 
app I had a folder called, Notes , on the old SE that didn't transfer over to 
the new SE.  But, for the life of me I don't recall if I created this folder or 
if it was already there!  I tried creating this folder again, but it says it 
already exists, so it can't be created, but it's not showing in the folder 
list.  I noticed a, Notes, folder somewhere's in a Mail App setting, but now I 
can't find that booger again, and now I'm not exactly sure where I saw it the 
first time!

If anyone knows where I'm screwing up, would you please give me a real hard 
kick in the right direction?!  This damn dual tasking, you know breating and 
setting up an iPhone, is enough to make me want to drink some sanitizer, but 
not this, 60 proof weak crap, but the kind with a hell of a lot more kick than  
that weak crap!  LOL  LOL
Thanks much!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.

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RE: Mail App and a Notes Folder

[Richard Turner]

This may be a good time to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can puzzle 
this one out.
Best of luck getting it sorted.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder

No the account is only listed once.  All the folders are there except for my 
Notes, folder where I save certain email messages.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder

one thing to check, have you noticed if in the mail app, your account is listed 
twice?
One that says collapsed?
If so, double tap so it is expanded, and the subfolders will show up.
At least, that is how I get my outlook folders to show up.

Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com



On May 4, 2020, at 10:12 PM, Mike B. 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

My better half & I upgraded to the new SE 2020 iPhone today.  Well, in the Mail 
app I had a folder called, Notes , on the old SE that didn't transfer over to 
the new SE.  But, for the life of me I don't recall if I created this folder or 
if it was already there!  I tried creating this folder again, but it says it 
already exists, so it can't be created, but it's not showing in the folder 
list.  I noticed a, Notes, folder somewhere's in a Mail App setting, but now I 
can't find that booger again, and now I'm not exactly sure where I saw it the 
first time!

If anyone knows where I'm screwing up, would you please give me a real hard 
kick in the right direction?!  This damn dual tasking, you know breating and 
setting up an iPhone, is enough to make me want to drink some sanitizer, but 
not this, 60 proof weak crap, but the kind with a hell of a lot more kick than  
that weak crap!  LOL  LOL
Thanks much!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
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What apps do you love on apple tv

[Jen .]

Hi I just ordered a new Apple tv 4th generation.
I am wondering what apps and games you all like and if there is a list of 
accessible apps somewhere.
Is there anything in particular I need to know about setting up this device 
other than the usual stuff.
Thanks.
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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Carolyn]

Well said! 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

Hi,

Look does it really matter where devices are made?

Cloths are made in Asian countries also,  And if we start complaining where 
these devices are made 

And the creation locations change then that means people in those initial 
countries lose jobs, Prices go up for the devices,  Everyone needs to live and 
these devices being created in china gives the Chinese a chance to earn and 
live.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

I totally agree. Prior to becoming an iPhone user I would have to purchase an 
external software to download to my phone so that I could then only have access 
to some of the phone's features. That software was almost $300. This was $300 
after first having purchased the phone. Now my iPhone comes equipped right from 
the box with what I need to operate it independent of any external software or 
add-ons. This has changed my life and has allowed me to do so much 
independently and now I don't have to ask for assistance from someone else to 
get things done. Yes, there will be glitches but I can live through them. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phones manufactured.

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Honestly, I personally could care less where my iPhone was made.  All I know is 
how much easier my life has become since I purchased and learned to use my 
iPhone.  It is so much fun to be able to not only make phone calls to do things 
like order pizza which I did a few hours ago, but to also listen to books, send 
text messages, and listen to OTR shows, listen to music, and to read Ebooks.  I 
know people are concerned because of the Virus, but that isn't a good enough 
reason to give up your iPhone.

On 5/4/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Urban Legends are hard to kill.
> Most smart phones, Android or Apple are made in China, as Charles said.
> Yes, some are made in a couple other countries, but this sounds like 
> the kind of thing that gets started, and people who do not bother to 
> do their homework believe it and pass it along.
> So, good for you for asking.
> Here is a link to a very long article that will help expand on this topic.
>
> https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> androidauthority.com%2Fwhere-smartphones-are-made-707989%2Fdata=0
> 2%7C01%7Claurys%40michigan.gov%7Cc5fb618788de4016466d08d7f0a5dbcd%7Cd5
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>
>
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
> happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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>
> On May 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> 
> It depends on the manufacturer, but a lot of  Android phones are 
> manufactured in china. Other locations include Taiwan and South Korea, 
> and I'm sure there are more.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Gmail
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phones manufactored.
>
> A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are 
> flocking to buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because 
> they are made in China.
>
> I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android 
> phones manufactured?
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RE: Mail App and a Notes Folder

[Carolyn]

I guess you asked Siri to launch notes? I wouldn't want to just depend on that 
and not know where Notes was located, but, you might be able to open it that 
way, at least. Not the best work around in the world, but a matter of taking 
what you might be able to get. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Mail App and a Notes Folder

Hi All,
 
My better half & I upgraded to the new SE 2020 iPhone today.  Well, in the Mail 
app I had a folder called, Notes , on the old SE that didn't transfer over to 
the new SE.  But, for the life of me I don't recall if I created this folder or 
if it was already there!  I tried creating this folder again, but it says it 
already exists, so it can't be created, but it's not showing in the folder 
list.  I noticed a, Notes, folder somewhere's in a Mail App setting, but now I 
can't find that booger again, and now I'm not exactly sure where I saw it the 
first time!
 
If anyone knows where I'm screwing up, would you please give me a real hard 
kick in the right direction?!  This damn dual tasking, you know breating and 
setting up an iPhone, is enough to make me want to drink some sanitizer, but 
not this, 60 proof weak crap, but the kind with a hell of a lot more kick than  
that weak crap!  LOL  LOL Thanks much!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
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Re: Phones manufactured.

[alia robinson]

I cannot for the life of me imagine saying I don’t care where my device is made 
as long as it makes my life easier. I just..I can’t imagine such blatant 
disregard for another human being’s plight. makes me sick. 

On May 5, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
stuff and they are looking where they can make it cheapest; I mean, who cares 
if the cool shirt was made by an 8-year old who toils in a sweat shop for 12 
hours a day and gets paid 25 cents a day for the effort.

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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Carolyn]

Me either, Josh. My email person has such radical ideas. Well, good for her, 
but she wants me to agree with her. So she sent me back an email, bla, bla, bla 
about Sampsun not in China, hasn't been there for, who cares? What good does it 
do? 

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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Phones manufactured.

Honestly, I personally could care less where my iPhone was made.  All I know is 
how much easier my life has become since I purchased and learned to use my 
iPhone.  It is so much fun to be able to not only make phone calls to do things 
like order pizza which I did a few hours ago, but to also listen to books, send 
text messages, and listen to OTR shows, listen to music, and to read Ebooks.  I 
know people are concerned because of the Virus, but that isn't a good enough 
reason to give up your iPhone.

On 5/4/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Urban Legends are hard to kill.
> Most smart phones, Android or Apple are made in China, as Charles said.
> Yes, some are made in a couple other countries, but this sounds like 
> the kind of thing that gets started, and people who do not bother to 
> do their homework believe it and pass it along.
> So, good for you for asking.
> Here is a link to a very long article that will help expand on this topic.
>
> https://www.androidauthority.com/where-smartphones-are-made-707989/
>
>
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
> happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
>
>
> On May 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> 
> It depends on the manufacturer, but a lot of  Android phones are 
> manufactured in china. Other locations include Taiwan and South Korea, 
> and I'm sure there are more.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 7:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Phones manufactored.
>
> A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are 
> flocking to buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because 
> they are made in China.
>
> I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android 
> phones manufactured?
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Braille device question.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

 

Firstly I have never used a Braille display with an iPhone but I am trying
to help a friend to do so.

 

I'm not sure whether he has tried to pair the display via the usual
Bluetooth route rather than via Voiceover there are no entries for the
device on the iPhone.

 

When we try to pair via Voiceover and Braille Apex is shown as expected and
entering the code we are  presented with a message that Pairing was
unsuccessful make sure Apex is ready.

 

I read the following from Applevis.

 

If you run out of time when typing the code, just try again. After three
attempts, you 

will not be able to keep trying. To fix this, return to settings, general,
and this time 

select Bluetooth. From there, select the Apex, then double tap the "forget
this device" 

button. This should let you try three more times to pair, as instructed
above.

If the Apex does not appear when you scan for braille displays, check that
your Apex's 

name is set properly (described above), make sure that Bluetooth is enabled
on both 

devices, make sure that the Apex is in terminal mode, and make sure that you
had not 

already tried several unsuccessful pairing attempts (you must forget the
Apex, as 

described in the previous list item, if this is the case). Also, you must
not have used the 

Apex's connectivity menu to try to pair or activate anything on the iTouch.
If you have 

done this, you must remove pairing and deactivate all services from the
Apex's 

Bluetooth menu, as described in the Apex manual.

 

Unfortunately I don't have access to the manual or the device so don't know
how to remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 

Bluetooth menu.

 

Any help welcome.

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Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder

[Mike B.]

Okay, I had to remove my email account and reinstall it, but it's now 
showing all folders.  What a pain in the A**!  LOL  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: Mail App and a Notes Folder


This may be a good time to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can 
puzzle this one out.

Best of luck getting it sorted.







Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder



No the account is only listed once.  All the folders are there except for my 
Notes, folder where I save certain email messages.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:06 AM

Subject: Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder



one thing to check, have you noticed if in the mail app, your account is 
listed twice?

One that says collapsed?

If so, double tap so it is expanded, and the subfolders will show up.

At least, that is how I get my outlook folders to show up.



Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, 
it just stops you from enjoying the good."



Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com







  On May 4, 2020, at 10:12 PM, Mike B.  wrote:

  

  Hi All,



  My better half & I upgraded to the new SE 2020 iPhone today.  Well, in the 
Mail app I had a folder called, Notes , on the old SE that didn't transfer 
over to the new SE.  But, for the life of me I don't recall if I created 
this folder or if it was already there!  I tried creating this folder again, 
but it says it already exists, so it can't be created, but it's not showing 
in the folder list.  I noticed a, Notes, folder somewhere's in a Mail App 
setting, but now I can't find that booger again, and now I'm not exactly 
sure where I saw it the first time!



  If anyone knows where I'm screwing up, would you please give me a real 
hard kick in the right direction?!  This damn dual tasking, you know 
breating and setting up an iPhone, is enough to make me want to drink some 
sanitizer, but not this, 60 proof weak crap, but the kind with a hell of a 
lot more kick than  that weak crap!  LOL  LOL

  Thanks much!


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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
stuff and they are looking where they can make it cheapest; I mean, who cares 
if the cool shirt was made by an 8-year old who toils in a sweat shop for 12 
hours a day and gets paid 25 cents a day for the effort.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

Well said! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

Hi,

Look does it really matter where devices are made?

Cloths are made in Asian countries also,  And if we start complaining where 
these devices are made 

And the creation locations change then that means people in those initial 
countries lose jobs, Prices go up for the devices,  Everyone needs to live and 
these devices being created in china gives the Chinese a chance to earn and 
live.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

I totally agree. Prior to becoming an iPhone user I would have to purchase an 
external software to download to my phone so that I could then only have access 
to some of the phone's features. That software was almost $300. This was $300 
after first having purchased the phone. Now my iPhone comes equipped right from 
the box with what I need to operate it independent of any external software or 
add-ons. This has changed my life and has allowed me to do so much 
independently and now I don't have to ask for assistance from someone else to 
get things done. Yes, there will be glitches but I can live through them. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phones manufactured.

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Honestly, I personally could care less where my iPhone was made.  All I know is 
how much easier my life has become since I purchased and learned to use my 
iPhone.  It is so much fun to be able to not only make phone calls to do things 
like order pizza which I did a few hours ago, but to also listen to books, send 
text messages, and listen to OTR shows, listen to music, and to read Ebooks.  I 
know people are concerned because of the Virus, but that isn't a good enough 
reason to give up your iPhone.

On 5/4/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Urban Legends are hard to kill.
> Most smart phones, Android or Apple are made in China, as Charles said.
> Yes, some are made in a couple other countries, but this sounds like 
> the kind of thing that gets started, and people who do not bother to 
> do their homework believe it and pass it along.
> So, good for you for asking.
> Here is a link to a very long article that will help expand on this topic.
>
> https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> androidauthority.com%2Fwhere-smartphones-are-made-707989%2Fdata=0
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>
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from 
> happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
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> On May 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> 
> It depends on the manufacturer, but a lot of  Android phones are 
> manufactured in china. Other locations include Taiwan and South Korea, 
> and I'm sure there are more.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, 

RE: What apps do you love on apple tv

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi. Here are some apple tv 4 apps I like:

1. Spectrum tv. Spectrum calls their app "Born Accessible" because it was 
supposedly built with accessibility from the ground up. It works very well and 
is indeed very accessible.

2. Pandora. Pandora is very accessible once installed and configured but you 
may need sighted assistance to get it going. I did.

My Tuner Pro. This is an internet  radio station tuner and is very accessible. 
It costs about $4 but is worth it.

You might consider purchasing the apple tv 4 tutorial from Mystic Access. It 
costs $40 or so but is well worth the cost.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What apps do you love on apple tv

Hi I just ordered a new Apple tv 4th generation.
I am wondering what apps and games you all like and if there is a list of 
accessible apps somewhere.
Is there anything in particular I need to know about setting up this device 
other than the usual stuff.
Thanks.
Jen

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Mail rules on IOS

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Hey List,

Finding myself subscribed to so many awesome lists, my inbox is growing super 
crowded. Any tips on how to setup rules on my iPhone to organize messages from 
various email groups land in specified mailboxes? I find that I’m having the 
same issue with my inbox on the native mail app on my MacBook Air. If I setup 
rules on my MacBook Air will they carry over to my iPhone? Any walk throughs on 
how to get this done is super appreciated.
 

All best,
Ibraheem

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RE: Mail rules on IOS

[Richard Turner]

At this time, you cannot set up rules on the iPhone.
If you can set them up on your Mac, maybe the folders will show up on your 
iPhone.  Not sure, but it would be worth a try.
I don't use a Mac so cannot help there.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


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Hey List,

Finding myself subscribed to so many awesome lists, my inbox is growing super 
crowded. Any tips on how to setup rules on my iPhone to organize messages from 
various email groups land in specified mailboxes? I find that I’m having the 
same issue with my inbox on the native mail app on my MacBook Air. If I setup 
rules on my MacBook Air will they carry over to my iPhone? Any walk throughs on 
how to get this done is super appreciated.
 

All best,
Ibraheem

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RE: Phones manufactored.

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

The fact is that most of what we use now is manufactured in another country. It 
is easy to hear something and run with it than it is to research it on your 
own. 



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CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
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Googles American,
Samsungs Korean
HTC I think is Korean,
Huwaei  or however it's spelt is Chinese Nokia is now made in Canada I believe 
So go figure

Yes iPhones are made in china but so is most of the technology these days,

 HP have a major factory  the same province as the covid19 virus came out of, 
Dell have a factory  in a near by region of china  As do apple as well.


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Subject: Phones manufactored.

A difficult person in my life told me that people where she lives are flocking 
to buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because they are made in 
China.

I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are Android phones 
manufactured?

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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Carolyn]

That was enlightening, thanks. I'll copy the link and send out to several, 
including my afore-mentioned email correspondent. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phones manufactured.

Urban Legends are hard to kill. 
Most smart phones, Android or Apple are made in China, as Charles said.
Yes, some are made in a couple other countries, but this sounds like the kind 
of thing that gets started, and people who do not bother to do their homework 
believe it and pass it along.
So, good for you for asking.
Here is a link to a very long article that will help expand on this topic.

https://www.androidauthority.com/where-smartphones-are-made-707989/


Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."



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It depends on the manufacturer, but a lot of  Android phones are 
manufactured in china. Other locations include Taiwan and South Korea, and I'm 
sure there are more.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail



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Of Carolyn


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Subject: Phones manufactored.





A difficult person in my life told me that people where she 
lives are flocking to


buy Android phones, getting rid of their iPhones, because they 
are made in


China.





I ignored what she said, but was so tempted to ask, where are 
Android phones


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Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder

[Mike B.]

No the account is only listed once.  All the folders are there except for my 
Notes, folder where I save certain email messages.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: Mail App and a Notes Folder


one thing to check, have you noticed if in the mail app, your account is 
listed twice?
One that says collapsed?
If so, double tap so it is expanded, and the subfolders will show up.
At least, that is how I get my outlook folders to show up.



Richard
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  Hi All,

  My better half & I upgraded to the new SE 2020 iPhone today.  Well, in the 
Mail app I had a folder called, Notes , on the old SE that didn't transfer 
over to the new SE.  But, for the life of me I don't recall if I created 
this folder or if it was already there!  I tried creating this folder again, 
but it says it already exists, so it can't be created, but it's not showing 
in the folder list.  I noticed a, Notes, folder somewhere's in a Mail App 
setting, but now I can't find that booger again, and now I'm not exactly 
sure where I saw it the first time!

  If anyone knows where I'm screwing up, would you please give me a real 
hard kick in the right direction?!  This damn dual tasking, you know 
breating and setting up an iPhone, is enough to make me want to drink some 
sanitizer, but not this, 60 proof weak crap, but the kind with a hell of a 
lot more kick than  that weak crap!  LOL  LOL
  Thanks much!

  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
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Re: What apps do you love on apple tv

[Wayne Merritt]

One app I got when I had my Apple TV was Super Trivia Challenge. It is
very accessible, and looks similar to Jeopardy with the categories and
point values for each row. Then you choose 1 of 4 possible answers for
each question. Unlike Jeopardy, the questions have answers, verses the
reverse. It was free in the App Store. I also remember another free
one called something like Fireplace, which was just the picture and
sound of a fireplace. Pretty calming and relaxing though.

Enjoy,
Wayne

On 5/5/20, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> Hi. Here are some apple tv 4 apps I like:
>
> 1. Spectrum tv. Spectrum calls their app "Born Accessible" because it was
> supposedly built with accessibility from the ground up. It works very well
> and is indeed very accessible.
>
> 2. Pandora. Pandora is very accessible once installed and configured but you
> may need sighted assistance to get it going. I did.
>
> My Tuner Pro. This is an internet  radio station tuner and is very
> accessible. It costs about $4 but is worth it.
>
> You might consider purchasing the apple tv 4 tutorial from Mystic Access. It
> costs $40 or so but is well worth the cost.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen
> .
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What apps do you love on apple tv
>
> Hi I just ordered a new Apple tv 4th generation.
> I am wondering what apps and games you all like and if there is a list of
> accessible apps somewhere.
> Is there anything in particular I need to know about setting up this device
> other than the usual stuff.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Carolyn]

Dido here, Laury. 

I certainly do not want to have good stuff at someone else's suffering, but I 
do not have the wherewithal to research everything I buy to see if that is the 
case. 

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Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I cannot speak for others but my comment was in no way to be taken to mean that 
I think It's ok for anyone to work in deplorable conditions. 

Most of what we use is made in other countries and we have no control over 
that. In my opinion it is crazy to get rid of my iPhone because it may have 
been manufactured in China and buy an android phone that too could have been 
manufactured in another country. Not all items made in other countries means 
that the workers are or have been mistreated. 

I don't think anyone should work in conditions where they are untreated or not 
being paid for the work that they do. 
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I cannot for the life of me imagine saying I don’t care where my device is made 
as long as it makes my life easier. I just..I can’t imagine such blatant 
disregard for another human being’s plight. makes me sick.

On May 5, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I did not say that we have no control over the working conditions. I said we 
have no control over where products are made. Meaning the country where the 
manufacture makes the product. I'm not for as I stated before deplorable and 
unfair working conditions. I don't that was the intent of anyone who commented 
on this topic when they indicated how much they love their phones and how much 
having them has contributed to their quality of life. I know that was not the 
intent of my comment. 

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You are absolutely correct, it's fine for a phone to be made in China or India 
or wherever, but you are not correct in saying that we have no control over 
what working conditions are in place there. Investigative reports have exposed 
such horrible places often enough or you hear about some tragedy like that fire 
in a clothing factory in Bangladesh some years ago after which some pretty 
horrific details came to light about the conditions there and the companies who 
had clothing made there. We can demand from our companies to set certain 
standards and, if they don't do so, buy products from a company which does. We 
live in a global economy and that will not change despite America's current 
phase of protectionism, it happened before after all, but it's up to every 
person to set standards for themselves and to expect others with whom we deal 
whether on a personal level or for the products we buy to also have standards. 
It's not OK to say "Give me a $299 iPhone and I really don't care how you do it 
and whether half the components are made by kids who are paid a few cents a 
day". Fortunately Apple does have standards and if companies do then it may 
indeed be a blessing if they go to China, India, Vietnam, the Philippines or 
wherever to make their products, they can still do so cheaper than with lavbour 
costs here and yet the workers there make a decent living. It's no different 
with call centers, people often complain about agents who have accents because 
they are in India or the Philippines, but I doubt those same people would want 
to pay 50% more for whatever service because the call centers are in the US 
where the wages are much higher let alone finding enough people for the work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

I cannot speak for others but my comment was in no way to be taken to mean that 
I think It's ok for anyone to work in deplorable conditions.

Most of what we use is made in other countries and we have no control over 
that. In my opinion it is crazy to get rid of my iPhone because it may have 
been manufactured in China and buy an android phone that too could have been 
manufactured in another country. Not all items made in other countries means 
that the workers are or have been mistreated.

I don't think anyone should work in conditions where they are untreated or not 
being paid for the work that they do.
-Original Message-
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robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 3:08 PM
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I cannot for the life of me imagine saying I don’t care where my device is made 
as long as it makes my life easier. I just..I can’t imagine such blatant 
disregard for another human being’s plight. makes me sick.

On May 5, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
stuff and they are looking where they can make it cheapest; I mean, who cares 
if the cool shirt was made by an 8-year old who toils in a sweat shop for 12 
hours a day and gets paid 25 cents a day for the effort.

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RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Carolyn,

If you find a case with a place for a lanyard, please let us know.

James B 

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You know, my case is pretty thick too. I think the one with the lanyard, even 
with the pocket might be thinner, need to check that out, once the big bad bug 
lets us out and about again. 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Also that the thicker the back of the case the less likely the wifi charging is 
going to work as it can't get the charge through the back of the case / phone.

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2020 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I hadn't thought about cards.  I guess you are concerned that the magnetic 
field from the wireless charger would damage the magnetic strip on the card?

James B 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I wish I did, James. One of the ladies in my card playing group got one, and 
several others got one. They have them at Wal-Mart, is all I know. They aare 
really soft, and I liked it. I could still maybe get one, just not put any 
cards in it unless I do it temporarily. 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

Hey Carolyn,  Do you have a link or model number for the case with a lanyard?

Thanks,

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

And, Wal-Mart has them with lanyards. 

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Fred Olver
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

If you have a case for the IPhone 8, it will fit the new SE.
 
Fred Olver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020


Hi all,

 

Does anyone know about any durable case for an iPhone SE 2nd generation.

 

It must have a hole in the case to atatch a lanyard.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 



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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Carolyn]

I agree with you, Laury. 

Furthermore, I trust that it is a given that none of us wants to exploit people 
less fortunate than we are. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

I did not say that we have no control over the working conditions. I said we 
have no control over where products are made. Meaning the country where the 
manufacture makes the product. I'm not for as I stated before deplorable and 
unfair working conditions. I don't that was the intent of anyone who commented 
on this topic when they indicated how much they love their phones and how much 
having them has contributed to their quality of life. I know that was not the 
intent of my comment. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

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You are absolutely correct, it's fine for a phone to be made in China or India 
or wherever, but you are not correct in saying that we have no control over 
what working conditions are in place there. Investigative reports have exposed 
such horrible places often enough or you hear about some tragedy like that fire 
in a clothing factory in Bangladesh some years ago after which some pretty 
horrific details came to light about the conditions there and the companies who 
had clothing made there. We can demand from our companies to set certain 
standards and, if they don't do so, buy products from a company which does. We 
live in a global economy and that will not change despite America's current 
phase of protectionism, it happened before after all, but it's up to every 
person to set standards for themselves and to expect others with whom we deal 
whether on a personal level or for the products we buy to also have standards. 
It's not OK to say "Give me a $299 iPhone and I really don't care how you do it 
and whether half the components are made by kids who are paid a few cents a 
day". Fortunately Apple does have standards and if companies do then it may 
indeed be a blessing if they go to China, India, Vietnam, the Philippines or 
wherever to make their products, they can still do so cheaper than with lavbour 
costs here and yet the workers there make a decent living. It's no different 
with call centers, people often complain about agents who have accents because 
they are in India or the Philippines, but I doubt those same people would want 
to pay 50% more for whatever service because the call centers are in the US 
where the wages are much higher let alone finding enough people for the work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phones manufactured.

I cannot speak for others but my comment was in no way to be taken to mean that 
I think It's ok for anyone to work in deplorable conditions.

Most of what we use is made in other countries and we have no control over 
that. In my opinion it is crazy to get rid of my iPhone because it may have 
been manufactured in China and buy an android phone that too could have been 
manufactured in another country. Not all items made in other countries means 
that the workers are or have been mistreated.

I don't think anyone should work in conditions where they are untreated or not 
being paid for the work that they do.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phones manufactured.

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I cannot for the life of me imagine saying I don’t care where my device is made 
as long as it makes my life easier. I just..I can’t imagine such blatant 
disregard for another human being’s plight. makes me sick.

On May 5, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
stuff and they are looking where they can make it cheapest; I 

RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

[Carolyn]

If the day comes that I ever get to go back to Wal-Mart, I'll check. 

In the meantime, if anyone else does, let us know. 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

Hi Carolyn,

If you find a case with a place for a lanyard, please let us know.

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

You know, my case is pretty thick too. I think the one with the lanyard, even 
with the pocket might be thinner, need to check that out, once the big bad bug 
lets us out and about again. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

Also that the thicker the back of the case the less likely the wifi charging is 
going to work as it can't get the charge through the back of the case / phone.

-Original Message-
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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2020 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I hadn't thought about cards.  I guess you are concerned that the magnetic 
field from the wireless charger would damage the magnetic strip on the card?

James B 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

I wish I did, James. One of the ladies in my card playing group got one, and 
several others got one. They have them at Wal-Mart, is all I know. They aare 
really soft, and I liked it. I could still maybe get one, just not put any 
cards in it unless I do it temporarily. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

Hey Carolyn,  Do you have a link or model number for the case with a lanyard?

Thanks,

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

And, Wal-Mart has them with lanyards. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fred Olver
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020

If you have a case for the IPhone 8, it will fit the new SE.
 
Fred Olver

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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 3:43 AM
Subject: Looking for a durable case for a iPhone SE 2020


Hi all,

 

Does anyone know about any durable case for an iPhone SE 2nd generation.

 

It must have a hole in the case to atatch a lanyard.

 

Many thanks,

 

James B  

 



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Re: Mail rules on IOS

[Wayne Merritt]

I don't use a Mac either. However, I do have many rules, or filters,
setup in my Gmail account. Gmail's labels feature is not quite like
folders or inboxes in other email programs, but the same result is
achieved. When I open my mail in the iOS Mail account, all of the same
filters/rules are applied just like I set them up on the computer. If
I delete a message with a label on my phone, it will also be deleted
from the web interface on the computer.

Best,
Wayne

On 5/5/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> At this time, you cannot set up rules on the iPhone.
> If you can set them up on your Mac, maybe the folders will show up on your
> iPhone.  Not sure, but it would be worth a try.
> I don't use a Mac so cannot help there.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Ibraheem Fakir
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mail rules on IOS
>
> Hey List,
>
> Finding myself subscribed to so many awesome lists, my inbox is growing
> super crowded. Any tips on how to setup rules on my iPhone to organize
> messages from various email groups land in specified mailboxes? I find that
> I’m having the same issue with my inbox on the native mail app on my MacBook
> Air. If I setup rules on my MacBook Air will they carry over to my iPhone?
> Any walk throughs on how to get this done is super appreciated.
>
>
> All best,
> Ibraheem
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Re: Braille device question.

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Malcolm,

Have you tried restarting both devices? Also, if they have ever installed other 
braille displays, try forgetting them from VoiceOver/Braille Settings, as the 
iPhone often has trouble connecting with one display if it's also connected to 
others. Resetting the phone may also help.

Best,
Anna


> On May 5, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Firstly I have never used a Braille display with an iPhone but I am trying to 
> help a friend to do so.
>  
> I’m not sure whether he has tried to pair the display via the usual Bluetooth 
> route rather than via Voiceover there are no entries for the device on the 
> iPhone.
>  
> When we try to pair via Voiceover and Braille Apex is shown as expected and 
> entering the code we are  presented with a message that Pairing was 
> unsuccessful make sure Apex is ready.
>  
> I read the following from Applevis.
>  
> If you run out of time when typing the code, just try again. After three 
> attempts, you 
> will not be able to keep trying. To fix this, return to settings, general, 
> and this time 
> select Bluetooth. From there, select the Apex, then double tap the "forget 
> this device" 
> button. This should let you try three more times to pair, as instructed above.
> If the Apex does not appear when you scan for braille displays, check that 
> your Apex's 
> name is set properly (described above), make sure that Bluetooth is enabled 
> on both 
> devices, make sure that the Apex is in terminal mode, and make sure that you 
> had not 
> already tried several unsuccessful pairing attempts (you must forget the 
> Apex, as 
> described in the previous list item, if this is the case). Also, you must not 
> have used the 
> Apex's connectivity menu to try to pair or activate anything on the iTouch. 
> If you have 
> done this, you must remove pairing and deactivate all services from the 
> Apex's 
> Bluetooth menu, as described in the Apex manual.
>  
> Unfortunately I don’t have access to the manual or the device so don’t know 
> how to remove pairing and deactivate all services from the Apex's 
> Bluetooth menu.
>  
> Any help welcome.
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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I cannot speak for others but my comment was in no way to be taken to mean that 
I think
It's ok for anyone to work in deplorable conditions. 

Most of what we use is made in other countries and we have no control over 
that. In my opinion it is crazy to get rid of my iPhone because it may have 
been manufactured in China and buy an android phone that too could have been 
manufactured in another country. Not all items made in other countries means 
that the workers are or have been mistreated. 

I don't think anyone should work in conditions where they are untreated or not 
being paid for the work that they do. 
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I cannot for the life of me imagine saying I don’t care where my device is made 
as long as it makes my life easier. I just..I can’t imagine such blatant 
disregard for another human being’s plight. makes me sick.

On May 5, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
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if the cool shirt was made by an 8-year old who toils in a sweat shop for 12 
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RE: Phones manufactured.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You are absolutely correct, it's fine for a phone to be made in China or India 
or wherever, but you are not correct in saying that we have no control over 
what working conditions are in place there. Investigative reports have exposed 
such horrible places often enough or you hear about some tragedy like that fire 
in a clothing factory in Bangladesh some years ago after which some pretty 
horrific details came to light about the conditions there and the companies who 
had clothing made there. We can demand from our companies to set certain 
standards and, if they don't do so, buy products from a company which does. We 
live in a global economy and that will not change despite America's current 
phase of protectionism, it happened before after all, but it's up to every 
person to set standards for themselves and to expect others with whom we deal 
whether on a personal level or for the products we buy to also have standards. 
It's not OK to say "Give me a $299 iPhone and I really don't care how you do it 
and whether half the components are made by kids who are paid a few cents a 
day". Fortunately Apple does have standards and if companies do then it may 
indeed be a blessing if they go to China, India, Vietnam, the Philippines or 
wherever to make their products, they can still do so cheaper than with lavbour 
costs here and yet the workers there make a decent living. It's no different 
with call centers, people often complain about agents who have accents because 
they are in India or the Philippines, but I doubt those same people would want 
to pay 50% more for whatever service because the call centers are in the US 
where the wages are much higher let alone finding enough people for the work. 

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Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 12:42 PM
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I cannot speak for others but my comment was in no way to be taken to mean that 
I think It's ok for anyone to work in deplorable conditions. 

Most of what we use is made in other countries and we have no control over 
that. In my opinion it is crazy to get rid of my iPhone because it may have 
been manufactured in China and buy an android phone that too could have been 
manufactured in another country. Not all items made in other countries means 
that the workers are or have been mistreated. 

I don't think anyone should work in conditions where they are untreated or not 
being paid for the work that they do. 
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I cannot for the life of me imagine saying I don’t care where my device is made 
as long as it makes my life easier. I just..I can’t imagine such blatant 
disregard for another human being’s plight. makes me sick.

On May 5, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Yes, it absolutely matters where products are made and it matters even more 
what sort of oversight and accountability is in place. You mentioned clothing 
and here it maybe matters even more than with higher-end technology devices 
where a certain amount of skilled labour is required, but even here certain 
items like headsets, speakers and other mass-produced items we here in the west 
are buying and discarding whenever we don't like them any more or see something 
we like better affect the quality of life of the people in the countries where 
they are made. We all want cheap, cheap and, even better, cheaper, big 
corporations like Walmart, Target and others are happy to supply all this cheap 
stuff and they are looking where they can make it cheapest; I mean, who cares 
if the cool shirt was made by an 8-year old who toils in a sweat shop for 12 
hours a day and gets paid 25 cents a day for the effort.

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Re: klondike

[Debby]

Hi Robert,

The Blindfold Solitaire games includes Klondike 1and Klondike 3. I am slightly 
addicted to them especially Klondike 3. 
Debby


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> On May 5, 2020, at 5:44 PM, Robert Doc wright  
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> 
> has anyone found an accessible version of this solotaire game?
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> If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a 
> situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
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