Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939

2014-10-08 Thread acbern
well, I do that with my references if they cannot be adjusted reasonably such 
as the 732a. but for meters and calibrators I do not. 
achievieng high precison with such an instrument then means you still need to 
characterize it (i.e. calibrate, and not adjust it, doesnt save money 
essentially)
and secondly you always need to apply a transfer factor, i am too lazy for 
that, i rather get it adjusted when i cal it.
also, the reference is stable, true, but other things do drift, and we talk 10+ 
yeras here (last cal sticker i saw). it would certainly be interesting to know 
where its different ranges went inbetween (if it was known that it was adjusted 
to within spec back then, which probably is not known)


> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 08. Oktober 2014 um 10:32 Uhr
> Von: "Mike S" 
> An: volt-nuts@febo.com
> Betreff: Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939
>
> On 10/8/2014 4:23 AM, acb...@gmx.de wrote:
> > the EPROMs are in sockets, no soldering needed.
> > but again, buying a precision instrument but reprogramming cal data that is 
> > years old does not make any sense.
> > unless of course if you are just a collector and do not use its accuracy.
> 
> It makes perfect sense, for the same reason that HP doesn't touch the 
> cal if it's in spec - for tracking/characterization. By keeping the same 
> cal constants, if and when he does send it in for calibration he'll be 
> able to know how much it drifted since it was last cal'd (25 years ago?).
> 
> -- 
> Mike
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Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939

2014-10-08 Thread Mike S

On 10/8/2014 4:23 AM, acb...@gmx.de wrote:

the EPROMs are in sockets, no soldering needed.
but again, buying a precision instrument but reprogramming cal data that is 
years old does not make any sense.
unless of course if you are just a collector and do not use its accuracy.


It makes perfect sense, for the same reason that HP doesn't touch the 
cal if it's in spec - for tracking/characterization. By keeping the same 
cal constants, if and when he does send it in for calibration he'll be 
able to know how much it drifted since it was last cal'd (25 years ago?).


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Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939

2014-10-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message , acb...@gmx.de writes:

>the EPROMs are in sockets, no soldering needed.
>but again, buying a precision instrument but reprogramming cal
>data that is years old does not make any sense.
>unless of course if you are just a collector and do not use its accuracy.
>adrian

in general I'd agree, for the HP3458A not so much:  The two internal
references are incredibly stable over long periods of time.


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Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939

2014-10-08 Thread acbern
hi
the EPROMs are in sockets, no soldering needed.
but again, buying a precision instrument but reprogramming cal data that is 
years old does not make any sense.
unless of course if you are just a collector and do not use its accuracy.
adrian


> Gesendet: Dienstag, 07. Oktober 2014 um 16:35 Uhr
> Von: cfo 
> An: volt-nuts@febo.com
> Betreff: Re: [volt-nuts] Old HP3458A - SN: 2823A 03939
>
> I'm now the proud owner of a HP 3458A OPT-002.
> 
> I have adapted Mark's 3458A CalRam program to use linux-gpib , and have 
> made backups of the calram , and the dataram.
> 
> I will get a new calram : 
> http://tinyurl.com/mggqmos
> 
> And 2 x dataram : 
> http://tinyurl.com/otspeek
> 
> 
> I'll  get 4 x 32k SRAM for opt 001 - hopefully these are correct. 
> http://tinyurl.com/kjbtcla
> 
> 
> Does anyone know if the Eproms are already in sockets ?
> 
> I was planning on installing sockets for the calram , datarams , but have 
> hoped the eeproms was already in sockets.
> 
> 
> TIA
> CFO - Denmark
> 
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