Re: [volt-nuts] easy 3458A AC calibration

2015-05-20 Thread Todd Micallef
I used a Fluke 5100B and 8920A for my SCAL calibration. I got lucky and it 
passed at Agilent. I think if you use a 3325A , you should get results that are 
close.

Todd

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 On May 20, 2015, at 15:46, Electronics and Books via volt-nuts 
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 It is stated that the ac calibration of a 3458 is so difficult. at least the 
 equipment mentioned is so difficult to obtain. but look what you need. a hp 
 signal generator 3325 where i have a pile of (any other good generator will 
 do to), an other hp 3458 and 3 different thermocouples. very expensive 
 nowhere to be found and very delicate. hp not procduced them for 40 years or 
 ballantine which cost more then the meter your calibrating.
 but now for the accuracy. the signal generator has only 3 digits of amplitude 
 resolution. if you see the accuracy in the hp protocol what to measure it is 
 not possible to generate that.
 and for the thermocouples. they give only millivolts. you need an other 3458 
 with no offset or better a nanovolt meter to measure them.
 a far easier solution is a hp powersensor 8482a on a hp power meter. it is a 
 thermocouple of the correct frequency range and can be measured accurate 
 enough for the generator.
 the ac calibation is not an exact value as the volt or resistor but only a 
 deviation in the frequency range. it is even difficult to obtain the 
 deviation in 3 digits.
 ok it took me an hour but then i was done.
 
 
 Regards
 
 Frans
 
 
 i...@electronicsandbooks.com
 Netherlands
 
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[volt-nuts] 3458A resistance calibration

2015-05-20 Thread Electronics and Books via volt-nuts
my 3458 was getting troubles with the calibration of the zero. As volts where 
no problem and ohm were pretty accurate, my conclusion was that there is 
basicly nothing wrong. the calibration stopped at the ohm-10. so it must be in 
the sense lines somewhere. on de dc print there where 2 big resistors (Dale ?) 
in the sense lines. with a magnifying glass i could spot litle cracks in the 
solder. after heating with some fresh solder the fault was over.

i have red several times that the standard resistor for ohms should be of a 
better type. In my 1998 production unit it is a vishay vhp101 40k. that must be 
one of the better ones that were made by vishay. in an older 1994 unit there 
was no brand or recognisable type code on it.

Regards

Frans


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[volt-nuts] easy 3458A AC calibration

2015-05-20 Thread Electronics and Books via volt-nuts
It is stated that the ac calibration of a 3458 is so difficult. at least the 
equipment mentioned is so difficult to obtain. but look what you need. a hp 
signal generator 3325 where i have a pile of (any other good generator will do 
to), an other hp 3458 and 3 different thermocouples. very expensive nowhere to 
be found and very delicate. hp not procduced them for 40 years or ballantine 
which cost more then the meter your calibrating.
but now for the accuracy. the signal generator has only 3 digits of amplitude 
resolution. if you see the accuracy in the hp protocol what to measure it is 
not possible to generate that.
and for the thermocouples. they give only millivolts. you need an other 3458 
with no offset or better a nanovolt meter to measure them.
a far easier solution is a hp powersensor 8482a on a hp power meter. it is a 
thermocouple of the correct frequency range and can be measured accurate enough 
for the generator.
the ac calibation is not an exact value as the volt or resistor but only a 
deviation in the frequency range. it is even difficult to obtain the deviation 
in 3 digits.
ok it took me an hour but then i was done.


Regards

Frans


i...@electronicsandbooks.com
Netherlands

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