Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn

2007-07-16 Thread Michel Jullian


- Original Message - 
From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn


I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl,
 Marissa.

If you mean one of the 12 in the jury, the blog you pointed us to quotes 
Marissa saying: ...There is a jury - and no, we aren't on it.

Michel


 Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me
 for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from
 those threads deleted and people banned.
 
 I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator
 named magnatrix.
 
 BTW, the bloggers caught it:
 
 http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/
 
 Such silliness!
 
 Terry
 
 On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Terry,

 What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it.

 thx

 s


 Subject:re; Banned
 Hi Terry
 I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you
 need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is
 moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work  grief for the
 admins.
 Please don't being up issues regarding moderation (  how it was done)
 Thank you for your consideration
 
 I will now re-instate you.
  mags 
 
 
 On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa:
 
 http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm
 
 I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much
 information simply by the threads which they deleted.
 
 Something smells in Ireland.
 
 Terry
 
 






Re: [Vo]:Ethanol as a fuel

2007-07-16 Thread Michel Jullian
The article below from today's NYT throws some light on the reasons why US 
energy research funding doesn't make sense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/business/16solar.html?_r=1th=emc=thpagewanted=all

Quote:

The trade association for the nuclear power industry recently asked 1,000 
Americans what energy source they thought would be used most for generating 
electricity in 15 years. The top choice? Not nuclear plants, or coal or natural 
gas. The winner was the sun, cited by 27 percent of those polled.
It is no wonder solar power has captured the public imagination. Panels that 
convert sunlight to electricity are winning supporters around the world - from 
Europe, where gleaming arrays cloak skyscrapers and farmers' fields, to Wall 
Street, where stock offerings for panel makers have had a great ride, to 
California, where Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Million Solar Roofs initiative 
is promoted as building a homegrown industry and fighting global warming.
But for all the enthusiasm about harvesting sunlight, some of the most ardent 
experts and investors say that moving this energy source from niche to 
mainstream - last year it provided less than 0.01 percent of the country's 
electricity supply - is unlikely without significant technological 
breakthroughs. And given the current scale of research in private and 
government laboratories, that is not expected to happen anytime soon.
Even a quarter century from now, says the Energy Department official in charge 
of renewable energy, solar power might account for, at best, 2 or 3 percent of 
the grid electricity in the United States. 
In the meantime, coal-burning power plants, the main source of smokestack 
emissions linked to global warming, are being built around the world at a rate 
of more than one a week. 
Propelled by government incentives in Germany and Japan, as well as a growing 
number of American states, sales of solar panels made of silicon that convert 
sunlight directly into electricity, known as photovoltaic cells, have taken 
off, lowering manufacturing costs and leading to product refinements. 
But Vinod Khosla, a prominent Silicon Valley entrepreneur who focuses on 
energy, said the market-driven improvements were not happening fast enough to 
put solar technology beyond much more than a boutique investment.
Most of the environmental stuff out there now is toys compared to the scale we 
need to really solve the planet's problems, Mr. Khosla said. 
Scientists long ago calculated that an hour's worth of the sunlight bathing the 
planet held far more energy than humans worldwide could use in a year, and the 
first practical devices for converting light to electricity were designed more 
than half a century ago.
Yet research on solar power and methods for storing intermittent energy has 
long received less spending, both in the United States and in other 
industrialized countries, than energy options with more political support.
Indeed, there are few major programs looking for ways to drastically reduce the 
cost of converting sunlight to energy and - of equal if not more importance - 
of efficiently storing it for when the sun is not shining.
Scientists are hoping to expand the range of sunlight's wavelengths that can be 
absorbed, and to cut the amount of energy the cells lose to heat. One goal is 
to make materials to force photons to ricochet around inside the silicon to 
give up more of their energy.
For decades, conventional nuclear power and nuclear fusion received dominant 
shares of government energy-research money. While venture capitalists often 
support the commercialization of new technologies, basic research money comes 
almost entirely from the federal government. 
These days, a growing amount of government money is headed to the farm-state 
favorite, biofuels, and to research on burning coal while capturing the 
resulting carbon dioxide, the main heat-trapping smokestack gas.
In the current fiscal year, the Energy Department plans to spend $159 million 
on solar research and development. It will spend nearly double, $303 million, 
on nuclear energy research and development, and nearly triple, $427 million, on 
coal, as well as $167 million on other fossil fuel research and development.
Raymond L. Orbach, the under secretary of energy for science, said the 
administration's challenge was to spread a finite pot of money to all the 
technologies that will help supply energy without adding to global warming. No 
one source of energy that we know of is going to solve it, Dr. Orbach said. 
This is about a portfolio.
In the battle for money from Washington, solar lobbyists say they are outgunned 
by their counterparts representing coal, corn and the atom.
Coal and nuclear count their lobbying budgets in the tens of millions, said 
Rhone Resch, president of the Solar Energy Industries Association. We count 
ours in the tens of thousands.
Government spending on energy research has long been shaped by political 
constituencies. 

Re: [Vo]:Ethanol as a fuel

2007-07-16 Thread R.C.Macaulay

Michael reported NYT article
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/business/16solar.html?_r=1th=emc=thpagewanted=all
quoting...

There is plenty of intellectual firepower in the U.S., said Prashant V. 
Kamat, an expert in the chemistry of solar cells at the University of Notre 
Dame, who has some Energy Department financing. But there is limited 
encouragement to take up the challenge.


The article covers a wide area of energy themes. The world is become an 
energy glutton. Little emphasis is given on reducing use of energy.
The drunks at the Dime Box saloon have little interest in the subject until 
the store runs outa beer. Then all hell breaks loose. That's  firepower., 
not very encouraging.


Richard



Re: [Vo]:Ethanol as a fuel

2007-07-16 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:07 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:

The article below from today's NYT throws some light on the reasons  
why US energy research funding doesn't make sense.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/business/16solar.html? 
_r=1th=emc=thpagewanted=all


It is really all a matter of where prices are heading, a subject  
about which the author seems to have no grasp.  See:


http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/EnergyCosts.pdf

Solar has been experiencing exponential growth and price drops for  
some time and will continue to do so. The price of energy is going  
up.  Solar will soon be competitive with coal steam turbine (for many  
applications, especially car battery charging), based on  
manufacturing capacity increases alone.  It appears solar panels have  
already beat the sterling engine solar collector game by a large margin.


Effective energy storage systems are just now coming into the  
picture, and can change things dramatically.  The problem is  
developing the political will to make things happen fast in the face  
of lobbying which not in the best interest of the public, a fact the  
author covered well.  One of the arguments against making things  
happen fast is typically protecting jobs.  The fact is, there are few  
jobs in the energy industry at present compared to the number that  
could be generated by replacing the cost of mining energy (low local  
labor intensity) with the cost of producing equipment to manufacture  
it from a free source and install and retrofit existing real estate  
and vehicles (high local labor intensity). The key to making things  
happen right may be to simply get the message to the people.


Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





Re: [Vo]:Gravimagnetics

2007-07-16 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jul 15, 2007, at 9:25 PM, thomas malloy wrote:


Horace Heffner wrote:



On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:55 PM, thomas malloy wrote:



Last night I visited the Chukanov Energy site. I noticed that  
there  is an animation on gravity, the solar system, and the  
Pioneer craft.



Do you have the URL of the animatiom?

www.chukanovenergy.com , page about 1/4 of the way down. It takes a  
while for tha animation to load.



I don't think I want to leave my computer exposed while the infantile  
dialog stuff plays out letter by letter with the music.  If he had  
something worthwhile to say you'd think he would just say it in a  
professional manner.


Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





Re: [Vo]:Ethanol as a fuel

2007-07-16 Thread Michel Jullian
Hi Horace,

You're right but what would be the right message?

Regarding your EnergyCosts.pdf I noticed you focused on capital cost in USD/W, 
following most authors. It seems to me a more meaningful although probably more 
difficult to evaluate figure would be the actual bottom line energy cost for 
the user (e.g. in USDcents/kWh as in your last table which is a bit outdated 
unfortunately (1996)), as capital cost reflects neither labor cost nor 
longevity nor transportation costs nor CO2 emission compensation costs etc...

Then maybe the message could be brought to the people in the form of a single 
cents/kWh vs Year graph featuring one curve per energy type, showing the past 
evolution and projecting into the future. Past and foreseeable technological 
steps, such as printed CIGS for solar, would show as (hopefully downgoing) 
steps in the curves.

Michel

- Original Message - 
From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ethanol as a fuel


 
 On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:07 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
 
 The article below from today's NYT throws some light on the reasons  
 why US energy research funding doesn't make sense.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/business/16solar.html? 
 _r=1th=emc=thpagewanted=all
 
 It is really all a matter of where prices are heading, a subject  
 about which the author seems to have no grasp.  See:
 
 http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/EnergyCosts.pdf
 
 Solar has been experiencing exponential growth and price drops for  
 some time and will continue to do so. The price of energy is going  
 up.  Solar will soon be competitive with coal steam turbine (for many  
 applications, especially car battery charging), based on  
 manufacturing capacity increases alone.  It appears solar panels have  
 already beat the sterling engine solar collector game by a large margin.
 
 Effective energy storage systems are just now coming into the  
 picture, and can change things dramatically.  The problem is  
 developing the political will to make things happen fast in the face  
 of lobbying which not in the best interest of the public, a fact the  
 author covered well.  One of the arguments against making things  
 happen fast is typically protecting jobs.  The fact is, there are few  
 jobs in the energy industry at present compared to the number that  
 could be generated by replacing the cost of mining energy (low local  
 labor intensity) with the cost of producing equipment to manufacture  
 it from a free source and install and retrofit existing real estate  
 and vehicles (high local labor intensity). The key to making things  
 happen right may be to simply get the message to the people.
 
 Horace Heffner
 http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
 
 




[Vo]:A $olar $olution: the rectenna?

2007-07-16 Thread Jones Beene
All the talk about nanosolar and other so-called 'cheaper' cells, may be 
closer to wishful-thinking than to reality. Presently, and contrary to 
what is often mentioned in the science press, the *installed* cost of 
solar cells for homeowners is going up, not down in 2007.


I absolutely dispute the conclusions of the paper mentioned on Horace's 
site about continuation of price-drops. From my recent experience 
getting actual quotes - I think we reached the bottom in 2005-6 or 
before, and now the prices are now going up!


I challenge anyone to find a source of available solar cells which make 
economics sense for a home. Everytime a supposedly cheaper process comes 
along - by the time it gets to the prototype level, costs have escalated 
out of control. Nano-solar semiconductor cells will be no different.


The cost may be claimed by some writer to be under a dollar a watt at 
some nebulous factory in China, but the installed 'turnkey' price, from 
a licensed and bonded contractor is closer to $10 and NOT coming down - 
probably NEVER for the homeowner in the USA, unless you do it yourself. 
Larger installations may be cheaper.


The big solar conversion sites - the smart money for grid power - are 
going to Stirling engines, and abandoning hope for actual direct 
conversion cells. They have accountants and stockholders.


Solar cells have simplicity and 'status' appeal to homeowners, and as a 
'green' symbol (which can never pay-off) and they do proclaim to the 
world: I care - damn-the-cost ...


The largest Solar Installation in progress, which will produce up to 900 
Megawatts is under construction now in California. Stirling Energy 
Systems (SES) under contract with San Diego Gas  Electric will produce 
approximately 30 times more solar power than is now being generated in 
the whole San Diego region by rooftop cells. It will become the world's 
largest solar installation, and several other desert sites are planned, 
thanks to Sandia's work. The installed cost there was mentioned to 
actually be less than what was quoted by Horace ($2 watt) but that is 
not clear.


The problem for advanced nanosolar cells is this: it is NOT about 
maximizing efficiency - it is about minimizing installed cost. Follow 
the buck. The two variable are often contradictory.


There are possible alternative ways to approach this problem (on paper, 
in addition to regressing a century, to the Stirling engine):


1) Use mirror or Fresnel light concentrators: EVERY process should use 
concentrators, as Michael Foster reminds us. Without mirrors, even the 
Stirling converter is a bust.


2) Abandon semiconductor cells altogether, in favor of the rectenna.

Mirrors are at least 3 orders of magnitude cheaper, per unit of surface 
area, than are even the cheapest semiconductors.


The RECTENNA: The idea of collecting solar photon radiation with 
antenna-rectifier (rectenna) structures was proposed three decades ago, 
but has not yet been achieved commercially. The rectenna is basically a 
fancy type of diode, and as critics opine, it may only a new type of 
'cell' - since it does require micro-lithography, BUT it does not depend 
on a band gap, or expensive semiconductors.


The idea has been promoted as having potential to achieve efficiency 
approaching 100% but thermodynamic considerations imply a limit of 85% 
for a non-frequency-selective rectenna,  assuming maximal concentration.


This 6 year old paper reviews the history and technical context of ITN 
Energy Systems solar rectenna, and discusses the major issues:


http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy03osti/33263.pdf

Had we funded some of this tech fully back in 2002, using Daddy 
Warbuck's death-machine-dollars, the rectenna would probably already be 
in production. Instead of this, the US taxpayer is getting armor-plated 
Humvees and more body bags.


Jones





Re: [Vo]:Ethanol as a fuel

2007-07-16 Thread Michael Foster

Interesting article, Michel.  But this is the part that
attracted my attention.

There is plenty of intellectual firepower in the U.S., said Prashant V. 
Kamat, an expert in the chemistry of solar cells at the University of Notre 
Dame, who has some Energy Department financing. But there is limited 
encouragement to take up the challenge.

He should have said, There is plenty of intellectual firepower in the
U.S., but they're all in law school, which is why they had to import me
from India.  I tried to interest my daughter in chemistry, but she went
to law school too.

M.

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[Vo]:SES: $olar $olution

2007-07-16 Thread Jones Beene

Here is a time lapsed movie of the solar Sterling in action.

http://www.stirlingenergy.com/video/time_lapse_footage.wmv

They are fairly sturdy structures - but one wonders if they are really 
hurricane, or even gale-wind safe.




Re: [Vo]:A $olar $olution: the rectenna?

2007-07-16 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jul 16, 2007, at 7:48 AM, Jones Beene wrote:



I absolutely dispute the conclusions of the paper mentioned on  
Horace's site about continuation of price-drops. From my recent  
experience getting actual quotes - I think we reached the bottom in  
2005-6 or before, and now the prices are now going up!



Commercial retail prices are again coming down.  It is profitability  
that has been up.  Demand has far outstripped production capacity.   
That's why there are so many new technology types and companies,  
especially thin film, that are now in the factory construction  
stages.  To follow commercial prices on a regular bases check out:


http://www.solarbuzz.com/

Best thin film commercial price is now $3/watt.  As the film gets  
thinner the price goes down.  Building integration schemes are only  
now getting started.  Larger panels, 1 m^2, and continuous flexible  
roll, now coming online, will help this cost go down.


That's not where the real bucks are, though.  Sooner or later  
somebody will figure this out.  It's in vertical integration.  Best  
strategy I see is to buy out a good solar manufacturer, and energy  
storage manufacturer, and build power plants at cost.  Then its just  
a matter of how much cheap sunny land you can find.   AT  $0.21/kWh  
(commercial COST) this strategy doesn't yet make much sense, but as  
the prices move toward the nexus point it will be to the manufacturer  
that is producing (wholesale) at less than $0.10/ kWh, especially in  
states that run air conditioning where daytime peak power is at a  
premium, and green energy is as well.   To that manufacturer, there  
is no risk at all once he has options on the land, and energy price  
contracts locked in.


Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





[Vo]:Earthquake in Japan damages nuclear reactor complex

2007-07-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
A 6.8 magnitude earthquake occurred in Niigata, Japan today. The 
epicenter was in the Sea of Japan (which I think the Koreans call the 
Sea of Korea). The earthquake damaged the Kashiwazaki nuclear power 
plant facility. The nuclear reactor shut down automatically, but the 
damage caused a fire in the electrical transformer used to power the 
plant, which burned for two hours. Initially the Japanese government 
and the local power company reported there was no leakage of 
radioactive material, but CNN now says 315 gallons of slightly 
radioactive water leaked from the plant and the water is believed 
to have flushed into the Sea of Japan. See:


http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/07/16/japan.quake.ap/index.html

This is the world's largest nuclear power reactor complex 8,212 MW. 
What it is doing in the middle of nowhere in Niigata I cannot guess.


For the past several months, Japanese reactor plant operators and 
government agencies have been caught in one of the worst scandals in 
recent decades. They have covered up many serious reactor accidents 
and radioactive leaks. Before that, they cover up the extent of the 
fire at the Monju breeder reactor, and the details of the Tokaimura 
nuclear accident, which was caused by such extraordinary incompetence 
-- such infuriating imbecility -- I would not have believed it 
possible in any first world nation.


Given this track record, I would say that Japanese reactor operators 
have zero credibility and I would not be surprised to learn that 
hundreds of gallons of highly radioactive water were released into 
the grounds of the reactor and have now soaked into the surrounding 
communities. Unfortunately, most Japanese reporters are wusses, so we 
may never know.


- Jed



[Vo]:Re: Isomers, LENR, reprocessed D2O

2007-07-16 Thread Jones Beene


In a followup attempt to track down more specific information on the 
subject of D2O variability in LENR:


Mitchell Swartz has indicated that he has seen inexplicable variation, 
batch-to-batch, in D2O under otherwise identical conditions.


He has also replicated the Laser enhancement effect in a few fine paper 
(aka the Letts/Cravens effect). Both papers were given at ICCF-10.


The information on D2O variability may be found in:

Swartz. M., G. Verner, Excess Heat from Low Electrical Conductivity 
Heavy Water Spiral-Wound Pd/D2O/Pt and Pd/D2O-PdCl2/Pt Devices, ICCF-10 
(Camb. MA), Proceedings of ICCF-10,  (2003).


However, Michell does not believe that it is possible that any of the 
heavy water he uses has been previously activated in a reactor (and then 
reprocessed).


Also he does not know, as of now, what the ratio of 18O to 16O is - in 
the water which he has used, but intends to look into this - which may 
be an overlooked point in LENR variability.


To place this datum from Michell into context...

... in the previous message which started this line of speculation - 
there was information from Dennis Letts on variability of results from 
different batches of D2O - which is supposed to be 99.9% pure.


Horace then suggested that a possible but unlikely source of this could 
relate to the material having been reprocessed from decommissioned 
nuclear reactor moderator. Although this source may sound unlikely, 
admittedly, it is certainly not out of the realm of possibility and begs 
to be addressed scientifically - and then to be eliminated from 
consideration - if it is not the cause of the variability.


A little more background may be necessary to corroborate the rationale 
for this suspicion (and to show why it is not a totally cranky suspicion):


So-called shape isomerism is a deformity of the nucleus of an isotope 
in which there are too many neutrons and/or excess energy 
(metastability) for a spherical shape. Many older physicists who have 
not kept-up on current RD are almost unaware that it is an important 
new sub-category, since the tools to measure this shape variation have 
only recently been developed.


Often in the past, this state or condition has been referred to as high 
spin which may be inaccurate. Quantum spin, per se, does not seem to be 
responsible for the deformation (but could be contributory), and instead 
it seems to be the result of a metastable condition of the nucleus 
having absorbed excess energy of an exact value to pump it up into a 
deformed shape. Yeah, I know - this could be manifested as spin.


Anyway, most of these nuclear configurations (deformations) correspond 
to a small prolate deformation, but a few of them correspond to highly 
deformed shapes. 18O is definitely a candidate isotope for shape 
isomerism. And if it has been previously irradiated in a reactor - then 
this would be very strong evidence for identifying this (or the 
resulting metastable isomer) as a possible culprit in many kinds of LENR 
excess heat experiments. Deuterium itself is also a shape isomer 
candidate, and the nucleus is highly elongated normally, often referred 
to a barbell shape.


Also, there is also the pragmatic realization that heavy water is tres 
cher, not just pricey - and that there are many decommissioned reactors 
worldwide, and that the moderator of even 'light water' reactors after 
40 years contains lots of D2 - and more so for the Candu ...


... and that in any other country than the USA- ask yourself this: what 
you rather do with 100 tons of used heavy water, worth a quarter billion 
dollars if clean - would you rather reprocess it in the third world 
where corners can be cut, or would you rather store it forever, in an 
expensive underground repository ?? The answer is No-brainer for many 
countries.


In one of the most extreme cases of shape-isomerism yet - which is 
consistent with the known shape of a common light nucleus, the 24Mg 
isomer - even in its ground state(!) has a 6:1 axis ratio state... and 
what is more amazing is that all 6 of virtual alpha particles (6 x 4) 
in that nucleus are effectively spaced in a linear chain configuration - 
the chain state or nuclear sausage as it has been called.


Most bizzare ... and this nuclear sausage is indicative of how the 'near 
field' of such a sausage-antenna could possibly cohere external energy 
and reach a metastable state. Not to mention that this source of energy 
can be natural from ZPE or the neutrino flux - not requiring an 
extended stay in a reactor.


Jones

BTW - is it odd that the previous message to Vo - part of it included 
below, is the first thing that turns up on a google search for [18-O 
shape isomer]  even though it is only a few days old. Don't they rank 
these things by how often they are read?



... to wit - this category could include an activated form of heavy 
water in which the oxygen atom, possibly the isotope 18O, but possibly 
even the 16O or deuterium as 

Re: [Vo]:Re: Isomers, LENR, reprocessed D2O

2007-07-16 Thread OrionWorks

From Jones:


...


BTW - is it odd that the previous message to Vo - part of
it included below, is the first thing that turns up on a
google search for [18-O shape isomer]  even though it is
only a few days old. Don't they rank these things by how
often they are read?


Your actions have been noted.
-- Dr. Zhivago


Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com



Re: [Vo]:Re: Isomers, LENR, reprocessed D2O

2007-07-16 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jul 16, 2007, at 12:27 PM, OrionWorks wrote:


From Jones:

...


BTW - is it odd that the previous message to Vo - part of
it included below, is the first thing that turns up on a
google search for [18-O shape isomer]  even though it is
only a few days old. Don't they rank these things by how
often they are read?


Your actions have been noted.
-- Dr. Zhivago


You probably subscribed to google one way or another.  They now keep  
track of your personal queries and prioritize in a custom way ... all  
just for you. wink.



Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





Re: [Vo]:Re: Isomers, LENR, reprocessed D2O

2007-07-16 Thread Horace Heffner
Here is a way out there improbable thought for you.  One CF joker may  
be mirror matter.  Mirror matter is invisible and moves fairly  
readily through normal matter (when not bound to it at a nuclear  
level), but has been theorized (by Robert Foot, *Shadowlands*) to  
have some degree of linkage, especially at the nuclear level.  I  
would further suggest there is a strong spin related gravimagnetic  
linkage at that level as well.


The star Achernar has an extreme and anomalous oblateness.  Some time  
ago, I suggested to Robert Foot that mirror matter provides a  
possible explanation for this anomaly, which he took as credible.


http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/press-rel/pr-2003/pr-14-03.html

Such an oblateness would also extend to nuclei comprised of ordinary  
matter bound to mirror matter, but for other reasons.


A gravimagnetically bound mirror nucleus would make the spin radius  
of a normal nucleus look unusually large.  This alone would make  
fusion more probable.  However, the combined spin gravimagnetic  
forces added to those of a second D nucleus may just tip the fusion  
balance sufficiently in the direction needed for Mill's paper  
(discussed on vortex earlier) to work out.


The interesting thing about mirror matter with respect to  
concentration is it has negative mass and positive inertia.  It  
separates out of water by boiling or evaporation, but is concentrated  
in water by centrifuging and diffusion.   It would tend to  
concentrate in the surface area of D loaded Pd, due to its reduced  
diffusion rate. It would tend to concentrate in D20 separated by  
electrolysis.  The source of the D2O and its subsequent processing  
would thus both be critical to the mirror matter content.


There is a handy way to detect mirror matter if it is around in  
sufficient quantities.  Its dark body photons go right through  
ordinary matter.  If you obtain a sufficient quantity of the stuff,  
even though it is bound to ordinary matter, you can build a true  
perpetual motion machine because you can put it in a highly insulated  
compartment and it will spontaneously cool - and that is a good way  
to detect it.


Far out there, but still some tantalizing grist for the general  
mills, or mill in general.


Horace Heffner



Re: [Vo]:Re: Isomers, LENR, reprocessed D2O

2007-07-16 Thread Jones Beene

--- Horace Heffner writes:

 Here is a way out there improbable thought for you.
One CF joker may be mirror matter.  


For those who haven't seen it, Wiki has a pretty good
entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_matter

...but it would be nice to reconcile mirror matter and
anti-matter elegantly, assuming that the two are not
mutually exclusive... Apparently Robert Forward did
not do this. It would also be nice to reconcile the
Dirac epo field with mirror matter. Wonder if anyone
has considered the dimensional (fractal) angle?

In response to the related question- Are mirror matter
particles related to supersymmetry partner
particles? 

Robert Foot answered as follows: There's really no
relation. Mirror symmery is a different type of
symmetry to supersymmetry. The only similarity is that
both ideas require a doubling of the number of
elementary particles. (in mirror symmetry, the mirror
particles form an almost decoupled sector -- similar
to ordinary particles but where left and right are
interchanged). 

Mirror symmetry is a discrete symmetry (i.e. not a
continuous symmetry), which allows this type of theory
to exhibit space-reflection as a symmetry, while
supersymmetry is nothing to do with space-reflection,
but is a continuous symmetry relating particles with
differenct spin: each ordinary particle has a
hypothetical superpartner. However supersymmetry must
be broken because if it was unbroken the SUSY
particles would have been discovered already). 

Nevertheless, supersymmetry is very popular, but there
really is no evidence for it (despite multi-billion
dollar searches for it!!). It survives only because it
is popular. As you know, mirror symmetry is not so
popular but I like to think there is a lot of evidence
for it -- certainly more than for supersymmetry. 

If I can give you an example: both theories claim to
provide an explanation for dark matter, but I would
argue that the mirror symmetry explanation is the more
natural. Why? Because it explains the basic properties
of dark matter. Mirror particles couple extremely
weakly to photons, so mirror matter is dark. mirror
atoms are also stable for the same reason that
ordinary ones are. In other words, with the one
hypothesis, mirror symmetry, one predicts the
existence of invisible stable matter in the Universe.
The abundance is not predicted.

Well - Foot is a bold one...and has put his best
theory Forward, so to speak. 

Jones



[Vo]:Our friends in Arabia

2007-07-16 Thread Jones Beene
Former CIA director James Woolsey made this insightful
observation in this month's Futurist magazine

http://www.wfs.org/futintervja07.htm

If you remember, we got interested in alternative
fuel firms like the Synfuels Corporation in the late
seventies and then in 1985, the Saudi’s dropped the
oil down to $5 a barrel and bankrupted the Synfuels
Corporation. 

The good news is that they bankrupted the Soviet
Union, too, but they certainly undercut alternative
fuel efforts. People got interested in alternative
fuels again in the early nineties, then in the late
nineties, oil dropped down to $10 a barrel and people
lost interest, again. One of the things that we have
to do is make sure that this rollercoaster effect
can’t happen again.

END

One way to do this is a floating import duty on
Arabian oil which will keep the price at a level where
all the alternative biofuel, like Algoil, which we can
make from Algae will have a ready market. We can
exclude corn ethanol by other means.