Re: [Vo]:energy products company

2007-10-17 Thread R.C.Macaulay
OPT appears to have done their homework well. Not only have they made two 
public offerings, they have some good partners and blessings of the US Navy. 
At the end of the day the device remains a sea bouy and translating that 
into profits becomes a stretch. unless.. well .. err.. was never intended 
to.
Maintaining a sea bouy is extremely expensive.. more so than a wind turbine 
and there ain't a nickel made in wind farms.


Richard


On Oct 16, 2007, at 2:26 PM, thomas malloy wrote:

This company claims to have some interesting energy production  products, 
can anyone comment on their efficacy.


http://www.inri.us


Horace Heffner wrote..
This alternative looks good to me:

http://www.oceanpowertechnologies.com/

Other things to consider:

http://www.physorg.com/news4142.html

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/3/5/64017/45520

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/8240/8240energy.html

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=35125

http://www.iema.net/news/envnews?aid=17531



[VO]: TXU buyout

2007-10-17 Thread R.C.Macaulay
BlankHowdy Vorts,

Home, home on the range, where the deer and the antelope play.. deer being the 
fleeced and the antelope being the swift.
Texas, Our Texas,, where no man's life nor property is safe when the state 
legislature is in session

Stage set and curtain opens...
TXU of Dallas, a electric utility with a number of coal fired smokeys' cried 
to the state for help because they couldn't afford to install scrubbers so the 
state worked out this deal where the state would issue bonds on the state's 
nickel to cover the cost of shutting down the plants or cleaning them up. 
Utilities got to raise rates to cover payment of bonds... ok. so far , so 
good... except.. the utilities took the money, sold the plants and the new 
owners cried foul !  no problemo!..Just run it past the bond market again.. and 
again.. until every buck has been wrung outa the deal.
Last week, TXU was   acquired  privatized by an  enterprise led by KKR 
and Texas Energy partners. Leading up to the acquisition was lotsa heat from 
the environmentalist that demanded they agree to clear up the stacks.
Well, to make a long story short.. a few deals were cut and an agreement to 
close a few worthless plants that were already for the scrap heap.. led to some 
interesting profit taking among the players.. no one knows what role Jesse 
from Detroit played but it was announced in the news that our esteemed ex sec 
of state James Baker 111 received ONE MILLION SHARES of the new enterprise for 
his ability to smile before the camera. hmmm.. was that the guy that was sent 
to Florida to validate the Bush victory over Gore?
No place but Texas.. just read our state motto   Don't mess with Texas  hmmm.

Richard

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[Vo]:Re: TXU buyout

2007-10-17 Thread Michel Jullian
Blankour esteemed ex sec of state James Baker 111 received ONE MILLION 
SHARES
...
  Don't mess with Texas

Don't tax with me, sec...

Michel (can't resist lame puns, even and especially in a foreign language 
;-)

- Original Message - 
From: R.C.Macaulay
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: [VO]: TXU buyout


Howdy Vorts,

Home, home on the range, where the deer and the antelope play.. deer being 
the fleeced and the antelope being the swift.
Texas, Our Texas,, where no man's life nor property is safe when the state 
legislature is in session

Stage set and curtain opens...
TXU of Dallas, a electric utility with a number of coal fired smokeys' 
cried to the state for help because they couldn't afford to install 
scrubbers so the state worked out this deal where the state would issue 
bonds on the state's nickel to cover the cost of shutting down the plants or 
cleaning them up. Utilities got to raise rates to cover payment of bonds... 
ok. so far , so good... except.. the utilities took the money, sold the 
plants and the new owners cried foul !  no problemo!..Just run it past the 
bond market again.. and again.. until every buck has been wrung outa the 
deal.
Last week, TXU was   acquired  privatized by an  enterprise led by KKR 
and Texas Energy partners. Leading up to the acquisition was lotsa heat from 
the environmentalist that demanded they agree to clear up the stacks.
Well, to make a long story short.. a few deals were cut and an agreement to 
close a few worthless plants that were already for the scrap heap.. led to 
some interesting profit taking among the players.. no one knows what role 
Jesse from Detroit played but it was announced in the news that our esteemed 
ex sec of state James Baker 111 received ONE MILLION SHARES of the new 
enterprise for his ability to smile before the camera. hmmm.. was that the 
guy that was sent to Florida to validate the Bush victory over Gore?
No place but Texas.. just read our state motto   Don't mess with Texas 
hmmm.

Richard 




[Vo]:RF energy transfer

2007-10-17 Thread Jones Beene

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/533411/?sc=dwhp

In this story from NIST, an RF circuit is used cool a tiny silicon 
cantilever—  similar to the tuning forks used in 'quartz' watches but 
smaller — and vibrating at 7,000 cycles per second, its natural 
“resonant” frequency.


Now in a broad (mis)use of verbiage, one could opine or over-generalize 
that this is creating ice from fire... from wave-energy, in a way.


Well, it is a conversion or transfer of one form of energy to another, 
and even if it is conservative, it can offer some insight on how other 
resonant circuits might operate to bootstrap thermal or magnetic 
vibrations into an electrical circuit - and give the appearance of OU 
when in fact they are taping into a bit of ambient energy.


In this case above the experimenters cooled the miniature lever from 
room temperature down to -228 C - quite impressive.


I mention this experiment in the context of a ferrite core, where an 
(un-noticed) one degree or less, delta T change in entropy could 
perhaps- be converted into milliwatts of another form of energy ?


Jones



[Vo]:Deflation Fusion (Part 2)

2007-10-17 Thread Horace Heffner

   Deflation Fusion
Speculations Regarding the Nature of Cold Fusion
Horace Heffner  October 17, 2007

Continued from Part 1 

ULTRA-HEAVY HYDROGEN ISOTOPES

The existence of hydrogen-4 to hydrogen-7 and possibly beyond, as  
well as helium-5 to helium-8, may shed some light on the intermediate  
states of some LENR processes.13   A deflation fusion of multiple  
electrons and two deuterons or more in a loaded lattice, possibly  
followed by a weak reaction, could produce these ultra-heavy hydrogen  
or helium nuclei as an intermediary state.  The ability to shed four  
neutrons or more from a heavy hydrogen or helium intermediate state  
implies the ability of a quad-neutron to tunnel to a heavy nucleus in  
the lattice.  This could explain various observed jumps of four in  
nucleon number of lattice elements in LENR experiments.  Further, a  
deflated hydrogen state of an ultra heavy hydrogen may  look like a  
clump of neutrons to the lattice atoms, and thus easily tunnel long  
distances  to them because the tunneling is energetically neutral  
electrostatically speaking, and favorable magnetically.


It is notable that hydrogen diffusion occurs via tunneling the  
typical separation distance of the lattice metal nuclei, i.e. from  
one lattice site to an adjacent site.  However, the typical distance  
between a hydrogen nucleus and lattice nucleus is half that.  The  
tunneling rate of a deflated hydrogen nucleus into close proximity of  
a lattice metal nucleus is thus greater than to the same proximity of  
a hydrogen nucleus in an adjacent site.   If the tunneling hydrogen  
nucleus is in the deflated state, i.e. neutral, its final destination  
is unaffected by the Coulomb barrier, only affected by its mass and  
the tunneling distance.   The size of a nucleus is affected by  
nuclear structure and excitation state.   We would thus expect  
deflated state tunneling to occur into lattice nuclei with greater  
probability until a low energy small nuclear structure is achieved.   
This feature may be of special use in deactivating nuclear waste.  A  
typical final nuclear state should tend to consist of multiple alpha  
particle structures.


Because deflated state hydrogen has no net charge, the probability of  
deflated state hydrogen tunneling long distances is greatly  
increased.  In D+D fusion in the lattice, the tunneling D is  
therefore most likely to not be in the deflated state, and the static  
hydrogen in the tunneled-to location where fusion occurs is therefore  
likely to be in the deflated state.  For this reason D+D fusion can  
be more likely than low energy nuclear reactions with the lattice  
nuclei.


It has been noted that in some cases magnetic fields improve the  
success rate at producing LENR.  This is highly consistent with the  
deflation fusion concept in that a magnetic force aligned between  
hydrogen locations and lattice atom locations provides a potential  
that greatly increases the probability of tunneling in the deflated  
state.  However, it is most notable that it is not a magnetic field  
alone which should have an effect, it is a magnetic  gradient that  
provides a magnetic force and thus an increased tunneling probability  
for deflated state nuclei.  Attempts to produce magnetically enhanced  
LENR rates should thus attempt to optimize both the magnitude and  
direction of the magnetic gradient across the lattice, not just place  
a magnetic field through the lattice.  It is especially noteworthy  
that powerful magnetic gradients can be induced within a lattice by  
use of coherent x-rays.



THE BACK SIDE CELL

The method of applying high electron fugacity to deuterium loaded  
cathodes has the objective of creating an energy focusing effect,  
forcing co-centered wave function collapse, resulting in deflation  
fusion.  The objective is to create simultaneously a high deuteron  
fugacity and electron fugacity.  Fugacity of a particle type in a  
given environment is similar to pressure in that it is a measure of  
the energy required to add one more such particle to that  
environment.  It is of interest that as electron density increases,  
the fugacity of a given amount of loaded hydrogen decreases.   
Increasing electron fugacity increases the loading feasible with a  
given amount of electrolysis energy, though adding one particle of  
each increases the fugacity of both.


The application of extreme fields to the back side of a loaded  
cathode is one way to increase electron fugacity.  That is to say a  
cathode can be loaded electrolytically from one side, the electrolyte  
side, and yet be a charged to millions of volts at the back side  
surface.  The back side surface can interface to a vacuum, hydrogen  
gas, high pressure dry nitrogen, clear HV oil, glass, or any  
convenient highly transparent and sufficiently insulating medium on  
the high voltage back side of the cathode.  Call this high voltage  
side 

[Vo]:Deflation Fusion (Part 1)

2007-10-17 Thread Horace Heffner

   Deflation Fusion
Speculations Regarding the Nature of Cold Fusion
Horace Heffner  October 17, 2007


PURPOSE

It is intended here to advance potential mechanisms underlying the  
production of cold fusion and low energy nuclear reactions (LENR).
The possible existence of such mechanisms suggests new experiments  
and improved techniques that may lead to a better understanding of  
some of the anomalous behavior of these reactions, like unusual  
branching ratios.   It is also intended to derive some engineering  
principles to utilize the mechanisms.



ELECTRON SCREENING IN FUSION REACTIONS

The term “electron screening” when applied to fusion reactions  
typically has two meanings.


One type of electron screening is the effect of the distribution of  
charge in the electron wave functions of orbital electrons between  
two hydrogen nuclei.  The charge of a single orbital electron is  
spread over a large volume, compared to nuclear distances, thus this  
screening is very tenuous.  The electron screening in a hydrogen  
molecule actually thins out if the two nuclei are brought closer  
together than their average separation distance,  thus increasing  
their mutual repulsion, and restoring the molecular shape.   This  
orbital electron screening  requires long tunneling distances of the  
hydrogen nucleus to achieve fusion, due to the large size of the  
orbital in comparison to the nucleus.


Another kind of electron screening can occur when most of the wave  
function of one or two free electrons gets between two hydrogen  
nuclei.  This can only happen if the screening electron de Broglie  
wavelength is small, therefor the momentum and thus energy of the  
screening electron is high, well over 2000 eV.  This kind of electron  
screening happens with great frequency only in very hot dense  
environments.


Electron screening fusion reactions can be called electron catalyzed  
fusion.  Proposed here is a third kind of electron catalyzed fusion,  
called deflation fusion.   It is not an electron screening reaction.   
It is fusion occurring as the result of a multi-body quantum wave  
function collapse simultaneously involving electron(s) and hydrogen  
nuclei, especially deuterons.  Wave function collapse is a term which  
has meaning  depending on the quantum interpretation invoked.   
Regardless of interpretation, as applied here, it is a very real  
phenomenon.   Consider the electron capture reaction.  An electron  
with a wave function covering a volume thousands of times that of a  
nucleus suddenly collapses to become part of the nucleus when the  
electron capture reaction occurs.  Similarly, in the photoelectric  
effect, a photon from across the universe, having a wave function of  
very large size, can collapse its entire energy and momentum onto one  
tiny electron on one atom in order to eject it from its orbital.  An  
electron on one side of a Josephson junction has a wave function that  
initially extends to the other side of the junction with only a small  
(volume integral) probability. Yet, depending on the width of the  
junction and the potential across the junction, once the electron  
tunnels across, it builds a newly centered (center of mass) wave  
function having  a small probability of being where it was on the  
other side. These are three examples of wave function collapse, where  
a quantum wave function can suddenly change both location and locus  
probability distribution dramatically.   Such quantum wave function  
collapse can happen and indeed happens when it is energetically  
favorable for either electrons or nuclei.


Typically in deflation fusion the wave functions of an electron and  
two hydrogen nuclei momentarily collapse into a small volume, their  
centers of mass being co-located, to create an intermediate state.   
Weak and/or strong nuclear reactions may occur in this intermediate  
state.  This process differs from an electron screening process,  
where the screening occurs prior to tunneling, and does not involve  
an electron in the nucleus.  A key ingredient to making deflation  
fusion occur is stressing the electron wave function so as to make  
its collapse with two nearby nuclei energetically favorable.  Another  
key ingredient is creating a configuration in which it is more  
energetically favorable for two nuclei to tunnel to an electron, or a  
nucleus to tunnel to a nucleus-electron pair in close proximity,   
than for the electron to tunnel toward one of the nuclei.



TWO BODY WAVE FUNCTION COLLAPSE

An electron wave function collapse upon a single nucleus,  followed  
by reverse tunneling, is much more likely than the 3 body events  
discussed above, but it is an unnoticed event, an event without any  
ash or consequences.  When the reverse tunneling occurs, the final  
state is identical to the initial state.  Neutron creation is  
energetically not favored from the two body event, because a neutron  

Re: [Vo]:Re: TXU buyout

2007-10-17 Thread R.C.Macaulay
No problemo with your use of the inglesh Michel, shucks Hillary can do 
tricks with it too:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7007109937779036019pr=goog-sl

Richard

- Original Message - 
From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Re: TXU buyout


Blankour esteemed ex sec of state James Baker 111 received ONE MILLION 
SHARES

...

 Don't mess with Texas


Don't tax with me, sec...

Michel (can't resist lame puns, even and especially in a foreign language 
;-)


- Original Message - 
From: R.C.Macaulay

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: [VO]: TXU buyout


Howdy Vorts,

Home, home on the range, where the deer and the antelope play.. deer being 
the fleeced and the antelope being the swift.
Texas, Our Texas,, where no man's life nor property is safe when the state 
legislature is in session


Stage set and curtain opens...
TXU of Dallas, a electric utility with a number of coal fired smokeys' 
cried to the state for help because they couldn't afford to install 
scrubbers so the state worked out this deal where the state would issue 
bonds on the state's nickel to cover the cost of shutting down the plants 
or cleaning them up. Utilities got to raise rates to cover payment of 
bonds... ok. so far , so good... except.. the utilities took the money, 
sold the plants and the new owners cried foul !  no problemo!..Just run it 
past the bond market again.. and again.. until every buck has been wrung 
outa the deal.
Last week, TXU was   acquired  privatized by an  enterprise led by 
KKR and Texas Energy partners. Leading up to the acquisition was lotsa 
heat from the environmentalist that demanded they agree to clear up the 
stacks.
Well, to make a long story short.. a few deals were cut and an agreement 
to close a few worthless plants that were already for the scrap heap.. led 
to some interesting profit taking among the players.. no one knows what 
role Jesse from Detroit played but it was announced in the news that our 
esteemed ex sec of state James Baker 111 received ONE MILLION SHARES of 
the new enterprise for his ability to smile before the camera. hmmm.. was 
that the guy that was sent to Florida to validate the Bush victory over 
Gore?
No place but Texas.. just read our state motto   Don't mess with Texas 
hmmm.


Richard




Re: [Vo]:RF energy transfer

2007-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder




On 17/10/2007 12:22 PM, Jones Beene wrote:

 http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/533411/?sc=dwhp
 
 In this story from NIST, an RF circuit is used cool a tiny silicon
 cantilever‹  similar to the tuning forks used in 'quartz' watches but
 smaller ‹ and vibrating at 7,000 cycles per second, its natural
 ³resonant² frequency.
 
 Now in a broad (mis)use of verbiage, one could opine or over-generalize
 that this is creating ice from fire... from wave-energy, in a way.
 
 Well, it is a conversion or transfer of one form of energy to another,
 and even if it is conservative, it can offer some insight on how other
 resonant circuits might operate to bootstrap thermal or magnetic
 vibrations into an electrical circuit - and give the appearance of OU
 when in fact they are taping into a bit of ambient energy.
 
 In this case above the experimenters cooled the miniature lever from
 room temperature down to -228 C - quite impressive.
 
 I mention this experiment in the context of a ferrite core, where an
 (un-noticed) one degree or less, delta T change in entropy could
 perhaps- be converted into milliwatts of another form of energy ?
 
 Jones
 


The issue then becomes -- as I have suggested before -- does a business
have enjoy an unlimited right to treat energy as a commodity?

Consider the air we breathe. Is the air for sale? Should it be?
Why _should_ energy be for sale?

Personally I think power providers only have a right to charge for the
energy they used to build their system.

Beyond that level they would charge for the (power)/(time interval)
and not for the energy used = (power)x(time interval).

It is curious that there is no common term for the former quantity.

Harry