[Vo]:Re: The White House and your house
Hi David,12-10-08 Please pass this on: Chu would be a bad choice for Energy Secretary because of his doctrinaire rejection of cold fusion. Cold fusion could be the most significant thing of all for energy change. Jack Smith PS I have chronic Lyme disease and require continuing antibiotics to keep the disease suppressed, despite the claims of the medical establishment. I hope that heresy is not rejected blindly by the Obama Administration. --- David Plouffe, BarackObama.com wrote: Taylor -- I just recorded a special video message -- from a place you might recognize= -- about this weekend's Change is Coming house meetings, and why you shoul= d join tens of thousands of your fellow supporters. Watch the video and find a Change is Coming house meeting near you. Or hos= t one yourself and invite your friends, family, and neighbors: http://my.barackobama.com/changeiscoming At the house meetings, you'll reflect on our campaign, discuss the future o= f this movement, and identify some ways to get involved in your community. Meeting hosts will report back, and your feedback will be instrumental in g= uiding this movement through some important and unprecedented territory. This grassroots organization has always been about more than an election. = It's about transforming our country -- and we've only just begun.=20 With the enormous challenges we're facing at home and abroad, we have no ch= oice but to continue working together. There's so much more we can do to he= lp Barack bring change to America. How we do that is up to you. Watch the video and sign up to host or attend a house meeting this weekend:= http://my.barackobama.com/changeiscoming I hope you'll continue to make history with us. Thanks and happy holidays, David David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America Please donate: https://donate.barackobama.com/calendar
Re: [Vo]:Interesting Microscope on Politics
Reading the indictment reveals the BO team wanted the guv to give the senate seat to BO's crony and BO would take care of the guv in a coupla years. The guv wanted sum'tin for the seat besides a socalled promise. The guv obviously didn't trust the BO team and led to the guv calling BO a MF. I don't blame the guv. After all, wouldn't it make you angry for some thief tried to steal you ill gotten gains? The solution is to put the FBI wiretappers in jail for not having a wiretapper's union card. Meanwhile, Jesse Jackson gave away turkeys and sum'buddy's sure to call him a chicken thief before it's over. Not even Hollywood could come up with these story lines. Richard The Chicago Democrat machine could give the Godfather lessons in how to steal armed with just a briefcase... R C Macaulay wrote: I don't see any reforms on the horizon as yet. The horse thief's union meeting, held at the Dime Box saloon, were appalled at learning there were crooked politicians in Illinois. - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a commentary on how things sometimes get done, and the need for the reforms in progress and even more.
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno comments on CH molecules, and on his personal situation
On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:11 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: When C12 is converted to C13 by addition of a neutron, the following mass change occurs: 12.000 + 1.0086649 = 13.0033548, which represent a loss of mass equal to 0.0053101 AMU. This is equal to 4.95 MeV. The mechanism does not matter. If C12 is the starting material and C13 is the product, this much energy MUST be removed. Of course, the source of the neutron must be taken into account. If the neutron has to be made from an electron and a proton, as Robin said, 0.78 MeV must be subtracted from the 4.95 MeV. Again the mechanism does not matter. Of course, the possibility of this reaction actually occurring depends on whether a rational mechanism can be proposed. A considerable amount of experience shows that such a combination of reactions do not occur under ordinary conditions. To propose they occur in the Mizuno cell requires some very unique conditions be identified and then show how they create a novel mechanism. The hydrino might to the job, but as Robin noted, the amount of released energy would be huge if significant C13 were made. Ed Congratulations! If the above is true then it should also be true of all heavy LENR observed. Since heavy lattice element LENR has been reported to occur without high energy signatures, or even concurrent excess heat, your above assertions, in particular that no mechanism exists carry off energy in an unseen way from nuclear reactions, have proven the entire LENR field to be bunk. Ahem ... I believe the argument here is not that no such reaction could have taken place, which is what you seem to be responding to. The argument is, rather, that if the enormous number of transmutations which are being claimed actually took place, then the aggregate energy released would have been far too large for the observed effects. I realize this, and I think there is good evidence this assertion is not true, and not only that, typically not true. It is not typical of heavy nucleus LENR that significant energy is produced. This argument does *not* apply to (most?) cold fusion experiments. I think it does. I don't think the observable energy produced necessarily or even typically exactly corresponds to the mass loss, either on a small scale or a large one. This especially applies to heavy LENR experiments where heavy nuclei are transmuted. Keep in mind, in a typical CF experiment the amount of material which is transmuted is microscopic, and is an insignificant fraction of the material present in the experiment. The amount of mass is irrelevant if no enthalpy is produced at all, i.e. if the mass loss involved in even a tiny amount would vaporize the material and produce massive amounts of high energy particles. I don't know of any heavy transmutation experiments (other than maybe this one if C13 production is confirmed, and no He production is found) where significant energy production or signature particles that could not be from light element fusion were noted. If heavy transmutation occurs without energy production then you can transmute a ton of the stuff and still get no excess energy. Various forms of biological transmutation has been suggested (but also not adequately confirmed) including Ca formation by chickens. This is transmutation on a similarly massive scale - without vaporizing the host, except maybe in the case of spontaneous human combustion. I think heavy transmutation in cathodes observed even from the first days of Bockris' team at TAMU was surprising due to the lack of high energy signatures or corresponding excess heat. Note that I am not saying heavy transmutation, especially biological, is confirmed. I am only saying the lack of a mass energy balance is not a reason to deny its possibility. In this case the amount supposedly transmuted was a major fraction of the input material mass, if I've properly understood the discussion up to this point. That's a gross difference, and is in fact the whole point being argued by Ed and Jones: Either there is a mechanism with allows the transmutations to take place with (almost) no energy imbalance, or the number of transmutations can't be as large as claimed because there was insufficient observed excess heat. Actually it appears Ed is applying exactly the opposite argument above. He is saying a mass balance must occur, as in typical high energy reactions. What balances with mass? Energy. The suggested number of transmutations *can* occur if there exists an energy sink, such as vacuum transactions, or neutrino production, to eliminate observable energy. I think it is also possible to tap an energy source via nuclear - lepton interaction. The balance can go either way. The issue is not how the excess heat made it from the reaction site to the
Re: [Vo]:Case and Mizuno
On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Jones Beene wrote: In 2002 Infinite Energy published a paper What is Missing in Les Case’s Catalytic Fusion - it did not mention phenanthrene. No surprise there. Maybe just maybe - especially if Mizuno is even partly replicated, it will be time to revisit the Case experiments but with phenanthrene as a featured ingredient ... the absence of which could be the reason that his experiments were hard to replicate. That is: if phenanthrene is the active material in Mizuno, it is likely to have been an active material in Case due to the charcoal. Its fluorescence properties (or something else) might be the key to it s activity but it is certain that Case could not have known this back then, and the many types of carbon and charcoal which were tried to no avail would be unreliable souces for this particular chemical. It would be hit-or-miss in the situation where you bought a kind of charcoal which was sometimes active - but you did not know the identity of the active constituent. It is worth noting that soot and smoke from all varieties of organic matter contains varying amounts of phenanthrene and this is known because of health organizations tracking toxicity. It is highly likely that charcoal from many source can contain it - or not, depending on factors associated with their own manufacture. But unless it is known and specified then that could alter an experimental results drastically. Jones The carbon in Case's catalyst came from burning coconut shells IIRC. Maybe Case didn't run his experiments at high enough a temperature? He most likely didn't check for C13 either I would expect. It might be interesting to do a Mizuno style hot hydrogen experiment carbon powder at high temperature in the presence of or combined with various nano sized metals or alloys, especially carbon including alloys, and then analyze the residue. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Re: The White House and your house
Taylor J. Smith wrote: Please pass this on: Chu would be a bad choice for Energy Secretary because of his doctrinaire rejection of cold fusion. Cold fusion could be the most significant thing of all for energy change. 1. You would have to disqualify most mainstream scientist by this criterion. 2. We do not know for a fact that he rejects cold fusion. Even if he does, we do not know if his rejection is doctrinaire or done without thinking about it. 3. Chu might be open minded. Give him a chance. Stress the positive. - Jed
[Vo]:XP Vehicles -- inflatable cars
Crazy, but I LOVE this kind of idea! Talk about a make-over for the automobile industry. See: http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/06/xp_vehicles_inflatable_cars.html QUOTE: XP Vehicles has the bright idea of selling inflatable cars to the masses, and these vehicles will be powered by batteries or fuel cells. It might sound as though it will be extremely subsceptible to punctures, but apparently XP Vehicles will be using the same material that NASA uses in its airbags for Mars Rovers' landings, which means you will be able to shrug off pins and sharp objects on the road without much worry. Since it is so light, it apparently can travel for up to 2,500 miles on a single charge. Assembly of this £2,500 package will take around two hours on average, which ain't too shabby. I wonder whether this will be able to survive in an accident with another vehicle made out of, you know, actual steel. I saw this in an interesting article by Cringley describing how Steve Jobs might run GM: Insanely Great: What if Steve Jobs ran one of the Big Three auto companies? http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2008/pulpit_20081207_005508.html More food for thought. - Jed
[Vo]:Better News to Chu on
The good news about Dr Steven Chu is that he is PRO alternative energy - at least from biofuel and solar- despite his ignorance about BLP and his unfortunate willingness to speak from a position of ignorance on that issue, several years ago. Is it time to do an about-face? Doesn't matter much, as the reports are that now it is a done-deal. He is definitely genius level and a non-politician, unlike his predecessor, and even more unlike his predecessors going back several iterations- he cannot be bought by Big-oil on the issue of CO2 neutrality and biofuel, even if subsidies are required. His stance on subsidies for wind energy is unknown. His stance on shifting RD funding from the sink-hole of hot fusion to alternatives in unknown. Not all good, but at least he has the global situation at least half-right instead of all wrong. http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/12/10/12127/542 A Chinese-American, Chu is a professor of physics and molecular and cell biology at the University of California-Berkeley and has been the director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory since 2004, where he has pushed aggressively for research into alternative energy as a way to combat global warming. It is the oldest of the Energy Department's national laboratories, but does only unclassified work and in recent years under Chu has been at the center of research into biofuels and solar technologies. Chu has been a strong advocate for the need to engage scientists in the search for ways to combat global warming by replacing fossil fuels with other energy sources such as biofuels and the sun. These officials also say that former New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection commissioner Lisa Jackson and Mary Nichols, who heads the California Air Resources Board, are in the running for the EPA administrator post. Both women worked at the EPA under Clinton EPA chief Carol Browner, who is leading the energy and environmental policy team for Obama's transition. Browner, who ran the agency for 8 years, is expected to be named to a new position in the Obama White House overseeing energy, environment and climate matters. But officials say there was still some discussion over whether Browner would share her duties with Sutley or another adviser on energy and environmental matters.
