Re: [Vo]:OT [WIsconsin Politics] you have been warned

2012-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Steven,

Love the Wisconsin cheese.

{For the uninformed, [OT] means off topic and was long ago agreed upon
that it would proceed off topic discussions so that you could
establish filters to operate accordingly.

Warm regards,}

T



RE: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Beaty,

...

 If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
 Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
 and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
 underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
 Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
 human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.

I had never heard of the term sliders, but based on the description given
here I used to believe I had slider characteristics. I noticed that certain
street lamps I passed, especially when I was driving in my car or walking
past them at night would suddenly blink out. After several repeated
encounters it seemed very obvious to me that my presence must have been
responsible. However, what dissuaded me from a personal belief that I was
the cause of the anomaly was the fact that I got curious and began to
observe the same lamps more closely. After a more careful extended period of
observations I noticed that the same street lamps which I thought my
presence was somehow influencing were regularly turning off all on their own
regardless of whether I was nearby or not. There was obviously something
wrong with the streetlamp. I suspect they were overheating and something
like an internal circuit breaker had been tripped. After they cooled down
they would turn back on again. The curious anomaly had nothing to do with
me.

Grant me serenity over the street lamps I am unable to influence. The
courage to influence the street lamps that I can, and the wisdom to know the
difference.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks




Re: [Vo]:refrig question off topic

2012-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Refrigerators should last 15 or 20 years.

They will last longer than that, but they have been improving rapidly in
recent decades. After 20 years, the energy cost savings make it more cost
efficient to buy a new one.

Speaking of energy, yesterday Google featured some interesting info on
their front page, which can be found here:

http://www.google.com/green/efficiency/

They are running their data centers at 80°F, which surprised me.

They use a lot of natural cooling, such as ocean water in data centers next
to the ocean.

- Jed


[Vo]:Anti-wind energy tactics

2012-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an article about the people who oppose wind:

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/05/memo-group-wants-to-create-fake-grassroots-wind-subversion-campaign-that-should-appear-as-a-groundswell

When I last heard about these people, their money was coming from big coal.
Coal competes with wind more than oil does. Wind has taken roughly 4% of
their business.

If it ever becomes generally known that cold fusion is real, I expect that
vested interests will oppose cold fusion with political tactics similar to
this. Only the scale of the spending will be far larger.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread David Roberson

A characteristic of HID lights is that they begin to cycle on and off as they 
approach the end of life.  Time to replace those Slider lamps.

Dave


-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 8:59 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.


From Beaty,
...
 If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
 Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
 and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
 underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
 Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
 human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.
I had never heard of the term sliders, but based on the description given
ere I used to believe I had slider characteristics. I noticed that certain
treet lamps I passed, especially when I was driving in my car or walking
ast them at night would suddenly blink out. After several repeated
ncounters it seemed very obvious to me that my presence must have been
esponsible. However, what dissuaded me from a personal belief that I was
he cause of the anomaly was the fact that I got curious and began to
bserve the same lamps more closely. After a more careful extended period of
bservations I noticed that the same street lamps which I thought my
resence was somehow influencing were regularly turning off all on their own
egardless of whether I was nearby or not. There was obviously something
rong with the streetlamp. I suspect they were overheating and something
ike an internal circuit breaker had been tripped. After they cooled down
hey would turn back on again. The curious anomaly had nothing to do with
e.
Grant me serenity over the street lamps I am unable to influence. The
ourage to influence the street lamps that I can, and the wisdom to know the
ifference.
Regards,
teven Vincent Johnson
ww.OrionWorks.com
ww.zazzle.com/orionworks




Re: [Vo]:Anti-wind energy tactics

2012-05-17 Thread David Roberson

Jed I am afraid that it will be easier for the vested interests to oppose cold 
fusion.  They will scare the public by equating cold fusion devices with 
nuclear reactors emphasizing the radiation aspects. I hope that logic will 
prevail and that LENR units will become widespread despite the opposition.

Dave



-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 9:33 am
Subject: [Vo]:Anti-wind energy tactics


Here is an article about the people who oppose wind:



http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/05/memo-group-wants-to-create-fake-grassroots-wind-subversion-campaign-that-should-appear-as-a-groundswell


When I last heard about these people, their money was coming from big coal. 
Coal competes with wind more than oil does. Wind has taken roughly 4% of their 
business.


If it ever becomes generally known that cold fusion is real, I expect that 
vested interests will oppose cold fusion with political tactics similar to 
this. Only the scale of the spending will be far larger.


- Jed





Re: [Vo]:Anti-wind energy tactics

2012-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

Jed I am afraid that it will be easier for the vested interests to oppose
 cold fusion.  They will scare the public by equating cold fusion devices
 with nuclear reactors emphasizing the radiation aspects.


No doubt they will.

It will easy for them to attack because the people who support cold fusion
initially will have no money. Plus they will not be allowed to publish
their views in the mass media, whereas the anti-cold fusion people such as
Robert Park will be free to publish as many op ed articles as they want.

The only way cold fusion will survive will be to get the support of the
public, and the support of corporations that will profit from it. So far we
have zero support from those two groups.

Rossi is working vigorously to prevent public knowledge and support for his
claims. He is no fool. I believe he has no patent, so he knows he will lose
everything if it becomes generally known that his claims are real. It irks
me though, because he pays lip service to high-flown altruistic goals.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread Harry Veeder
I think lights that are near death are prone to being influenced by
the presence of people. So yes the light might turn on and off when
you aren't near it, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that you
had some infleunce at other times.

Harry

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
 From Beaty,

 ...

 If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
 Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
 and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
 underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
 Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
 human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.

 I had never heard of the term sliders, but based on the description given
 here I used to believe I had slider characteristics. I noticed that certain
 street lamps I passed, especially when I was driving in my car or walking
 past them at night would suddenly blink out. After several repeated
 encounters it seemed very obvious to me that my presence must have been
 responsible. However, what dissuaded me from a personal belief that I was
 the cause of the anomaly was the fact that I got curious and began to
 observe the same lamps more closely. After a more careful extended period of
 observations I noticed that the same street lamps which I thought my
 presence was somehow influencing were regularly turning off all on their own
 regardless of whether I was nearby or not. There was obviously something
 wrong with the streetlamp. I suspect they were overheating and something
 like an internal circuit breaker had been tripped. After they cooled down
 they would turn back on again. The curious anomaly had nothing to do with
 me.

 Grant me serenity over the street lamps I am unable to influence. The
 courage to influence the street lamps that I can, and the wisdom to know the
 difference.

 Regards,
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread Jim Dickenson
I used to have it happen relatively often when driving on the highway,
especially when I was in a strong negative emotional state.  I recall one
time I was biking and was really upset about something I can't recall and
pulled into a gas station for something and all the pumps crashed (they're
electronic).  Other things like that have happened from time to time.  Of
course, it could be coincidences ;)

Jim D.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think lights that are near death are prone to being influenced by
 the presence of people. So yes the light might turn on and off when
 you aren't near it, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that you
 had some infleunce at other times.

 Harry

 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
 orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
  From Beaty,
 
  ...
 
  If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
  Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
  and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
  underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
  Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
  human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.
 
  I had never heard of the term sliders, but based on the description given
  here I used to believe I had slider characteristics. I noticed that
 certain
  street lamps I passed, especially when I was driving in my car or walking
  past them at night would suddenly blink out. After several repeated
  encounters it seemed very obvious to me that my presence must have been
  responsible. However, what dissuaded me from a personal belief that I was
  the cause of the anomaly was the fact that I got curious and began to
  observe the same lamps more closely. After a more careful extended
 period of
  observations I noticed that the same street lamps which I thought my
  presence was somehow influencing were regularly turning off all on their
 own
  regardless of whether I was nearby or not. There was obviously something
  wrong with the streetlamp. I suspect they were overheating and something
  like an internal circuit breaker had been tripped. After they cooled down
  they would turn back on again. The curious anomaly had nothing to do with
  me.
 
  Grant me serenity over the street lamps I am unable to influence. The
  courage to influence the street lamps that I can, and the wisdom to know
 the
  difference.
 
  Regards,
  Steven Vincent Johnson
  www.OrionWorks.com
  www.zazzle.com/orionworks
 
 




Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread fznidarsic
The are probably sensitive the infrared emission from you body.


Frank



-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.


I think lights that are near death are prone to being influenced by
the presence of people. So yes the light might turn on and off when
you aren't near it, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that you
had some infleunce at other times.

Harry

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
 From Beaty,

 ...

 If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
 Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
 and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
 underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
 Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
 human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.

 I had never heard of the term sliders, but based on the description given
 here I used to believe I had slider characteristics. I noticed that certain
 street lamps I passed, especially when I was driving in my car or walking
 past them at night would suddenly blink out. After several repeated
 encounters it seemed very obvious to me that my presence must have been
 responsible. However, what dissuaded me from a personal belief that I was
 the cause of the anomaly was the fact that I got curious and began to
 observe the same lamps more closely. After a more careful extended period of
 observations I noticed that the same street lamps which I thought my
 presence was somehow influencing were regularly turning off all on their own
 regardless of whether I was nearby or not. There was obviously something
 wrong with the streetlamp. I suspect they were overheating and something
 like an internal circuit breaker had been tripped. After they cooled down
 they would turn back on again. The curious anomaly had nothing to do with
 me.

 Grant me serenity over the street lamps I am unable to influence. The
 courage to influence the street lamps that I can, and the wisdom to know the
 difference.

 Regards,
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks




 


Re: [Vo]:Another Blast from the Past

2012-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Even if Mills does turn out to be America's Newton there can be little
 doubt that the paranoid and haughty approach he has employed over the past
 two decades - to leak out details, followed by unfulfilled promises - but
 then to back-off into silent isolation, makes for a tragic (bipolar)
 ending.


That would make him all the more like Newton. Newton was a haughty,
secretive jerk.

Galileo was even worse.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:What was that?

2012-05-17 Thread LORENHEYER
I just wanted to say a few more words on That which has been up there 
since only *you know who*  knows when.  First, highly advanced civilizations 
spacecraft consist either of a highly reflective surface, while others are 
less so.

Upon my doing some thorough research into this whole complete *other* 
matter over the many years (any  all relative activity), and in-particular 
an actual daytime photo and/or video of an advanced spacecraft hovering 
motionless over a field at only about  2 hundred feet or so from the 
videocamera 
(forget hoax, as it could not be disproved),,, plus, a first-hand eyewitness 
account that described a craft that landed at night, in the very back of 
their property several hundred fet away,,, plus, what I would say is authentic 
video of this landed craft. 

  The authenticity of this video could not be disproven, yet was regarded 
as such.  At any rate, it had a bulb-like dome on it's underside that emitted 
a relatively bright light,,, thus, enabling me to conclude that some 
advanced spacecraft have some type of translucent obsidian material that can 
light 
up as bright as a sun (if you happen to be undeneath it.

 Some advanced 
spacecraft also consist of a highly reflective surface, while others do not, 
and/or consist more of a dulled-down metallic surface.  So, over the many years 
of me not only observing the skies for countless hours w/ the unaided eye, 
seeing all those countless lights up in space doing all sorts of things, 
plus, a first-hand witness to a craft performing maneuvers in the daytime at 
about a mile or two distance, which had an eerily metallic-glow from the 
morning sun reflecting off of,,, as it went up and down  around and back  
forth 
and up  down again.  As it maneuvered about in a 3 to 5 hundred foot 
range, it seem to emit a sort of swirling tail, which was obviously an optical 
effect, due to it's surface and angle to the sun.  

   Now, I've 
done alot of homework over the years, and determined that many people  have 
first-hand witnessed the direct effects and/or activities of a powerful 
energy-field being emitted from some of  these highly advanced spaceraft.  To 
sum 
it up , simply, the vegetation in this world and/or materials we produce 
have been structurally altered, such as soil dehydration or unable to absorb 
H2O, and/or conveted back into its base compound. Vegetation in the form of 
circles have been knocked down, trees magnetized, people subdued or knocked 
out, and/or their vehicle subdued while they were fully awake. All of these 
things are done w/o any physical contact and/or by an energyfield. 


  Guages, instrumentation,  electronic systems subdued or 
altered, radios jammed, or simply static.  The list goes on  on as to what 
has been happening over the years, but *not* on a level that affects the 
overall physche of the majority of people in our society, or on a mass scale... 
IOW's, most people now believe it's possible that other intelligent life 
could exist, however, there is no real proof. so, we'll have to search the 
stars for variations in their wobble, that can predict an earthsized planet 
(oh wel, it's better than nothing, I guess ).   

  Now, I know 
this topic is OT (Obviously True), and besides, it's just too controversial, 
and is regarded by many level headed down to earth people (who have never 
actually looked up) who tend to be highly trained professionals, and obviously 
have a fear of being labeled spaced out however, it's all actually 
quite relative, and if you really wanted to, this whole complete other matter 
can be fully known by us, here  now.

  For me, there no longer is any question 
about it, because Technological Heaven has been absolutely thoroughly 
accomplished, and it is *we* that have yet to develope that technology which 
will 
determine (beyond all doubt) fact from ficition, or reality from fantasy, 
or 

[Vo]:I think some Japanese nuke plants may reopen

2012-05-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
There is still tremendous controversy in Japan about whether to re-open any
of the nuclear power plants. This summer, they are projecting a 20% power
shortage in the Osaka area, and 10 to 15% shortages elsewhere. Last year
they managed to cut consumption by 10% to 15% in some cities, but 20% seems
unreasonable to me. It would cause severe economic dislocations and some
deaths from elderly people.

They are already stretched. Factories are doing emergency relocation of
production to other parts of the country. Production lines are running at
night and on weekends, and shutting down at peak hours. Commuting by
electric trains and work hours have been staggered, although for some
strange reason they refuse to implement daylight savings time. (They have
discussed it.) It is difficult for parents with school-age children because
the schools are on standard time.

There is some talk of turning on the Osaka area reactors, which are located
far from the city. The ones I have seen on the map are on the other side of
Honshu. Some of the local people around the reactors are in favor of
turning them on again, because they are losing jobs and population with the
reactors off. Others are opposed. The mayor of Osaka, a popular young
politician, is opposed. He thinks the city would be threatened by an
accident. It would take an accident a lot worse than Fukushima to reach the
city.

It is complicated, but the overall message from the voters is clear:
nuclear power is not acceptable. It must be abandoned completely now, or
phased out quickly.

I do not think any Japanese politician will stand against public opinion on
this. It would be like an American politician saying: we should put a tax
of $3 per gallon on gasoline to pay for the wars in the Middle East.

If I were them, I would turn on most of the nukes now, especially the newer
ones. Then I would phase them out in 10 to 20 years.

I hate to think of all the coal they are burning. Their fossil fuel
consumption has gone through the roof. There is risk in that, too.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Just what not why.

I had a housemate whilst at Cornell who manifested the reverse Midas
touch.  We did several experiments to verify the effects were real and they
were!

One was when we asked him to please turn the volume down on a radio, and an
electrollytic capacitor failed emitting voluminous vapors into the room.
Another was to turn on a light, and it burned out.  He definitely should not
go into a computer room.

There were many more experiments like that, not all electrical in nature --
locking keys in car, flat tires at inappropriate times etc.
It's interesting that no significant physical harm ever occurred, although
the potential was there.

In the movie Pure Luck they give this a scientific name Coincident
Misfortune Syndrome.
I recommend that movie ( starring Martin Short ).  I really enjoyed it
because I knew this syndrome is real.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
  -Original Message-
  From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:19 AM


   From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
  To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 12:35 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.


I think lights that are near death are prone to being influenced by
the presence of people. So yes the light might turn on and off when
you aren't near it, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that you
had some infleunce at other times.

Harry

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
 From Beaty,

 ...

 If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
 Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
 and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
 underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
 Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
 human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.



[Vo]:Starlite : another Secret Sauce saga

2012-05-17 Thread Alan J Fletcher



The power of cool: Whatever became of Starlite?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428641.700-the-power-of-cool-whatever-became-of-starlite.html?full=true

(Free registration required ... access for a few days only).

In 1990 Maurice Ward  demonstrated on BBC's Tomorrow's World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4nnLP--uTI
a coating which he painted onto an egg, which 
resisted a blowtorch ... after a few minutes the egg was still runny.


Subsequent tests at various Government and 
University labs -- including lasers and arc lamps -- confirmed its efficiency.


But Ward never revealed the secret sauce -- 
which he called gubbins  -- and used confusing 
and ever-changing pseudo-scientific terms to describe it.


During negotiations, Ward would ask for £1 
million pounds one day, then £10 million the 
next,  [corporate atty Greenberg] says.


He was interviewed in 2009 by the UK The Daily Telegraph newspaper
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/5158972/Starlite-the-nuclear-blast-defying-plastic-that-could-change-the-world.html
**  Lots of detail there **

Ward died in 2011 ... and it's not presently 
clear that the secret sauce recipe has been preserved.


(lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi 
eCat  -- and the defkalion hyperion -- Hi, google!) 



Re: [Vo]:I think some Japanese nuke plants may reopen

2012-05-17 Thread Robert Lynn
Japanese are importing massive amounts of LNG to compensate. The Asian LNG
price has spiked to almost 4x US and 2x European price in last year based
mostly on increased Japanese demand but it should come down over next
couple of years as the market adapts (more LNG plants and Ships will be
built).

If the Japanese are truly done with Nuclear then they have to switch to
more natural gas, they had 50GW of nuclear which for combined cycle GT
replacements costs about $500/kW or $25Billion.  But building combined
cycle GT plants takes a couple of years (and there are long lead items like
100MW+ transformers that take several years to get delivered).  In shorter
term they can simply increase their LNG imports using existing
infrastructure and run it through large IC engine natural gas generator
sets (costing just $200/kW at 1MW level, or $10billion for 50GW).

A 1MW genset can be bought and installed in a matter of days at
neighbourhood level, and they are quite efficient - about 42% vs 58% for a
combined cycle GT plant.  At current Asian LNG prices these Gensets can
produce electricity for about $0.20/kWh, which isn't cheap, but is
survivable.  Consider that at $0.20/kWh a $200k 1MW genset will generate
almost $1.5 million in electricity every year and you can see that their
capital cost isn't too worrying.



On 17 May 2012 19:02, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is still tremendous controversy in Japan about whether to re-open
 any of the nuclear power plants. This summer, they are projecting a 20%
 power shortage in the Osaka area, and 10 to 15% shortages elsewhere. Last
 year they managed to cut consumption by 10% to 15% in some cities, but 20%
 seems unreasonable to me. It would cause severe economic dislocations and
 some deaths from elderly people.

 They are already stretched. Factories are doing emergency relocation of
 production to other parts of the country. Production lines are running at
 night and on weekends, and shutting down at peak hours. Commuting by
 electric trains and work hours have been staggered, although for some
 strange reason they refuse to implement daylight savings time. (They have
 discussed it.) It is difficult for parents with school-age children because
 the schools are on standard time.

 There is some talk of turning on the Osaka area reactors, which are
 located far from the city. The ones I have seen on the map are on the other
 side of Honshu. Some of the local people around the reactors are in favor
 of turning them on again, because they are losing jobs and population with
 the reactors off. Others are opposed. The mayor of Osaka, a popular young
 politician, is opposed. He thinks the city would be threatened by an
 accident. It would take an accident a lot worse than Fukushima to reach the
 city.

 It is complicated, but the overall message from the voters is clear:
 nuclear power is not acceptable. It must be abandoned completely now, or
 phased out quickly.

 I do not think any Japanese politician will stand against public opinion
 on this. It would be like an American politician saying: we should put a
 tax of $3 per gallon on gasoline to pay for the wars in the Middle East.

 If I were them, I would turn on most of the nukes now, especially the
 newer ones. Then I would phase them out in 10 to 20 years.

 I hate to think of all the coal they are burning. Their fossil fuel
 consumption has gone through the roof. There is risk in that, too.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Starlite : another Secret Sauce saga

2012-05-17 Thread Terry Blanton
Another demo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxqFyDugqs4



Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread mixent
In reply to  William Beaty's message of Wed, 16 May 2012 22:06:58 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
In that case, the effect would follow certain streetlights (not reported,)

...or streetlight types as in your comment here below about strings...
 
and wouldn't follow certain rare people (commonly reported.)  

...those with holes in their soles...? ;)


Control for 
very unusual height, rare types of shoe soles, etc.  One of the common 
stories is that a person turns off *strings* of streetlights one at a time 
as they pass under them.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Starlite : another Secret Sauce saga

2012-05-17 Thread Robert Lynn
Meh, I think the real reason it was never sold is it just wasn't that
special.  There is a very low probability that it would have been a product
that would have been commercially competitive with existing thermal
protection materials (from either cost or performance point of view).

For the high temp demos it was undoubtedly acting as an ablative.
 Ablatives have very limited applications as most high temp processes
require long term durability.  For the few applications needing ablatives
(rockets) there are generally strength, durability and processing
requirements as well as issues like vacuum outgassing or long term chemical
stability that could marginalise the usefulness of whatever starlite was.
 There are also no shortage of well understood and very cheap ablatives
alternatives like Oak or phenolic resin impregnated carbon (Pica).

For other applications requiring durability we have access to very cheap
and very low conductivity ceramic felts made out of Alumina, Silica,
Mullites fibres that can withstand up to 1700°C as well as other low
thermal conductivity materials  with huge variety in different performance
attributes (depending on what is important), even 3000°C is possible with
graphite fiber insulation in inert atmospheres.

On 17 May 2012 21:03, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:



 The power of cool: Whatever became of Starlite?

 http://www.newscientist.com/**article/mg21428641.700-the-**
 power-of-cool-whatever-became-**of-starlite.html?full=truehttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428641.700-the-power-of-cool-whatever-became-of-starlite.html?full=true

 (Free registration required ... access for a few days only).

 In 1990 Maurice Ward  demonstrated on BBC's Tomorrow's World
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=W4nnLP--uTIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4nnLP--uTI
 a coating which he painted onto an egg, which resisted a blowtorch ...
 after a few minutes the egg was still runny.

 Subsequent tests at various Government and University labs -- including
 lasers and arc lamps -- confirmed its efficiency.

 But Ward never revealed the secret sauce -- which he called gubbins
  -- and used confusing and ever-changing pseudo-scientific terms to
 describe it.

 During negotiations, Ward would ask for £1 million pounds one day, then
 £10 million the next,  [corporate atty Greenberg] says.

 He was interviewed in 2009 by the UK The Daily Telegraph newspaper
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/5158972/Starlite-**
 the-nuclear-blast-defying-**plastic-that-could-change-the-**world.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/5158972/Starlite-the-nuclear-blast-defying-plastic-that-could-change-the-world.html
 
 **  Lots of detail there **

 Ward died in 2011 ... and it's not presently clear that the secret sauce
 recipe has been preserved.

 (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- and the defkalion
 hyperion -- Hi, google!)



[Vo]:Open-Source-LENR-project

2012-05-17 Thread hellokevin
I haven't seen any discussions on this project in Vortex-L
 

 http://www.opensourcelenr.com/index.html
 
 
Kevmo
 
 

[Vo]:Water as a Catalyst......hmmmmm

2012-05-17 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L,

Interesting concept water even in ppm as a catalyst:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517143506.htm

Respectfully
Ron Kita, Chiralex


Re: [Vo]:Anti-wind energy tactics

2012-05-17 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:41 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

Jed I am afraid that it will be easier for the vested interests to oppose
 cold fusion.  They will scare the public by equating cold fusion devices
 with nuclear reactors emphasizing the radiation aspects. I hope that logic
 will prevail and that LENR units will become widespread despite the
 opposition.


Agreed.  I can only imagine that the gammas and X-rays are a major achilles
heal for any plans to sell on the mass market.

Perhaps those countries that best prevent vested interests from mounting a
legal attack along these lines will advance the most quickly in developing
a manufacturing base.  A mitigating factor here is that the devices are
something that you can get working in your garage, at least at a basic
level.  Manufacturing is as global as it gets, so you could design a device
and then perhaps have it manufactured in the Seychelles, or in Brazil,
possibly providing a way around legal campaigns that pay lip service to the
public good but couldn't have it further from mind.

Eric


Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

2012-05-17 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:36 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 A characteristic of HID lights is that they begin to cycle on and off as
 they approach the end of life.  Time to replace those Slider lamps.

 Dave


The human mind loves to find patterns, even when they don't exist.  Certain
industries appear to be predicated on identifying patterns that don't
exist.  Statistics is a tool we've developed to protect ourselves from our
flourishing imaginations.  It helps us to get beyond mere hunches about
whether there is a pattern.  Without it, we are left to our own devices
when it comes to understanding a patchwork of sporadic observations, and
our creative interpretation of events can easily gets the better of us;
without our taking careful measurements and then determining whether a
hypothesis is statistically significant, I'm sure we are altogether
helpless to know whether something is real or not when the data are sparse.
 I will go out on a limb and suggest that it is largely a well-trained
distrust of personal experience that characterizes the scientific approach
to things (I'm no scientist, so I can only offer conjecture here!).

The question: do some people influence street lamps?  The answer: let's
take a bunch of measurements and run a regression against them.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if scientists periodically throw out
statistically significant patterns that don't accord with their own
understanding of things -- perhaps ESP is one.

Eric