Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published, to say nothing of Federal Non-profit status documentation needed for charitable deduction. Reminds me of Jojo who appealed for funds on vortex whereby a Google search reveals his occupation as a worm grower for lizard food. A fool and his money are soon parted is a proverb found in the poem Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry by Thomas Tusser Anyone else object to Tin Cup appeals on vortex? Rossi Fan
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published, to say nothing of Federal Non-profit status documentation needed for charitable deduction. Reminds me of Jojo who appealed for funds on vortex whereby a Google search reveals his occupation as a worm grower for lizard food. A fool and his money are soon parted is a proverb found in the poem Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry by Thomas Tusser Anyone else object to Tin Cup appeals on vortex? Rossi Fan
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
As children in this world we are taught to ask for things. Jed has every right. He provides a valuable service. Stewart darkmattersalot.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published, to say nothing of Federal Non-profit status documentation needed for charitable deduction. Reminds me of Jojo who appealed for funds on vortex whereby a Google search reveals his occupation as a worm grower for lizard food. A fool and his money are soon parted is a proverb found in the poem Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry by Thomas Tusser Anyone else object to Tin Cup appeals on vortex? Rossi Fan
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Because trolls and other aggressive people always are posting anonymously or with nicknames, I want to suggest to Bill Beaty to transform Vortex in a Forum on which every member should use his or her real, verifiable name. The courage of cowards is always destructive. Peter On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published, to say nothing of Federal Non-profit status documentation needed for charitable deduction. Reminds me of Jojo who appealed for funds on vortex whereby a Google search reveals his occupation as a worm grower for lizard food. A fool and his money are soon parted is a proverb found in the poem Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry by Thomas Tusser Anyone else object to Tin Cup appeals on vortex? Rossi Fan -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:09:13 +0200 Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about how they spend their Money, lest, in an Enthusiastick Fit, they spend it Foolishly.
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Ly Sig, Vorl Bek.. Nuff said. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:09:13 +0200 Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about how they spend their Money, lest, in an Enthusiastick Fit, they spend it Foolishly.
RE: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
From Ly FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. This makes no sense. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. This is an absurd statement. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published, to say nothing of Federal Non-profit status documentation needed for charitable deduction. If Ly is referring to the Martin Fleischman Memorial Project, they appear far more transparent than whoever Ly appears to be. Troll. The rest clipped. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
From Vorl: Esa Ruoho wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about how they spend their Money, lest, in an Enthusiastick Fit, they spend it Foolishly. And I do object. While caution is always called for, and while it's not always the case, blithely accepting advice from complete strangers can be just as risky as acting on one of those Nigerian messages, particularly when the stranger's message is filled with disingenuous criticisms filled with falsehoods. Vorl, you give me the impression that you are willing to accept any kind of advice no matter whence it came from, particularly if what the stranger is pontificating seems to agree with your objectives pov? Is that so? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Even if my pseudonimity is no more secret, I would defend pseudonyms. At worst someone could keep the real identity. to be simple : imagine that I say: my employer dump billions in a hole, and i don't want him to know I know what he is doing... Imagine I say : my neighbors will burn me like a witch if they learn i support Nuclear energy Imagine I say: my family will send my to the psy hospital if they learn i support Cold Fusion scam pseudonimity is privacy protection, to help free speech in a real world... 2012/11/14 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Because trolls and other aggressive people always are posting anonymously or with nicknames, I want to suggest to Bill Beaty to transform Vortex in a Forum on which every member should use his or her real, verifiable name. The courage of cowards is always destructive. Peter On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published, to say nothing of Federal Non-profit status documentation needed for charitable deduction. Reminds me of Jojo who appealed for funds on vortex whereby a Google search reveals his occupation as a worm grower for lizard food. A fool and his money are soon parted is a proverb found in the poem Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry by Thomas Tusser Anyone else object to Tin Cup appeals on vortex? Rossi Fan -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
[Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera
The ufo is so fast it is invisible to the naked eye but can be observed by slowing film - both by original claimant and by the news agency camera that validated his claim. The ufo went undetected by nearby radar installations... My posit... relativistic drive/navigation is responsible for the lack of detection. Radar is designed to track where not when :_) this also addresses the trajectory issues and sudden accelerations associated with many UFO reports when you consider displacement on a temporal vector. I won't put OT in front of my posit because it really does derive from the basis of relativistic hydrogen and zero point energy where instead of utilizing the linkage between the ether and fractionalized hydrogen to produce anomalous energy we are instead suggesting using energy to turn this fractional hydrogen into a drive mechanism that utilizes a linkage with the ether to drive an object relative to the time axis. Fran http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2012/11/13/co-ufo-sightings-in-denver.kdvrhpt=hp_tvvideo#/video/us/2012/11/13/co-ufo-sightings-in-denver.kdvr
Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera
It's not an alien. :) 1) It's small. 2) It's flown over a local neighborhood. 3) It flies at the same time each day. 4) It's very fast and maneuverable. 5) In one frame, you can see a small flame coming from it. It all points to some type of RC plane being flown at lunch by a local enthusiast. It's powered by internal combustion. What else could it be? Craig On 11/14/2012 09:01 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: The ufo is so fast it is invisible to the naked eye but can be observed by slowing film -- both by original claimant and by the news agency camera that validated his claim. The ufo went undetected by nearby radar installations... My posit... relativistic drive/navigation is responsible for the lack of detection. Radar is designed to track where not when :_) this also addresses the trajectory issues and sudden accelerations associated with many UFO reports when you consider displacement on a temporal vector. I won't put OT in front of my posit because it really does derive from the basis of relativistic hydrogen and zero point energy where instead of utilizing the linkage between the ether and fractionalized hydrogen to produce anomalous energy we are instead suggesting using energy to turn this fractional hydrogen into a drive mechanism that utilizes a linkage with the ether to drive an object relative to the time axis. Fran http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2012/11/13/co-ufo-sightings-in-denver.kdvrhpt=hp_tvvideo#/video/us/2012/11/13/co-ufo-sightings-in-denver.kdvr
Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: What else could it be? Bugs. :-)
[Vo]:59 GW of coal fired capacity slated for retirement
Falling natural gas prices plus the cost of upgrading coal fired plants have made them uneconomical. See: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/11/report-59-gw-of-coal-fired-generation-capacity-should-retire-could-open-the-door-for-renewable-energy - Jed
Re: [Vo]:59 GW of coal fired capacity slated for retirement
Hold on here . . . This is a recommendation from the UCS. There was another article this morning in the AJC describing actual coal plant closings. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera
There is what appears to be a quonset hut near 56th and Clay where these are said to originate. You can see it on google maps at: 39.79945, -105.02035
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and elsewhere if verifiable background and educational achievements are not published . . . I have no objection. On the contrary, Ly Sig has performed a valuable service here, reminding us that many people oppose everything about cold fusion, even an on-line library of papers. If they could, opponents would shut shut down LENR-CANR. They do not want anyone to read cold fusion papers, even papers by Morrison. Fortunately, they have no way to stop me. This is harmless nonsense. Many, many people have attacked me over the years. Some have said much worse things than this. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
I wrote: I have no objection. On the contrary, Ly Sig has performed a valuable service here, reminding us that many people oppose everything about cold fusion, even an on-line library of papers. That sounds egotistical, as if I meant that an attack on me is an attack on cold fusion. What I meant is: Ly Sig says I should not collect donations for LENR-CANR.org. I should pay for the whole thing myself. That is tantamount to saying it is not worth having. At least, he sees no need for it. No one else should bother assisting me me or helping to pay for it. If you are not willing to pay for a service, and you think it is an affront that the person providing it even asks for payment, you must have pretty low opinion of that service. I invite Ly Sig to get all of these papers on his own from other sources. Not NewEnergyTimes either, since most of their papers are copied from LENR-CANR.org. Park and many other opponents say things like this: If the cold fusion researchers want to do this, fine, let them. But we should not give them any grant money or even let them work on the clock at their labs. Let them do it at home on their own time. That is tantamount saying, this research should not be allowed. You can't do experiments after hours at home. LENR-CANR is a much smaller deal than even the smallest research project. It calls for a small office, a desk, two computers, a scanner, a couple of filing cabinets, and travel expenses. It has to be an office away from home with no distractions or I will waste the whole day reading books and dithering. It does not cost much, but it ain't free either. People download 400,000 papers a year, so the cost is roughly 2 cents per download. Plus I do not charge authors for editing and various other services, and I have some other business here, part time. To be fair, I would say it is about a penny per download. I am moving to a smaller office down the hall, which will reduce expenses by $2000 per year. Internet used to be a major expense but bandwidth is now very cheap. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:04:00 -0800: Hi, There is another problem I have with the Rydberg option. I would expect elongated atoms to orient themselves in exactly the opposite direction to that needed to facilitate fusion, i.e. with the proton as *far* from the target nucleus as possible. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Is there such a thing as deformed Rydberg H2 (as opposed to H)? I'm not too familiar with the details, but it looks like you can get Rydberg H2. http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v95/i13/e133202 I suspect there will be deformation under a field, but I'm not sure. Eric Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera
I can appreciate that it is a UFO, in the technical sense. But did it have aliens in it? Eric Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:01, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: The ufo is so fast it is invisible to the naked eye but can be observed by slowing film –
Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent
Maybe there is an application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) Eric On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:17, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:04:00 -0800: Hi, There is another problem I have with the Rydberg option. I would expect elongated atoms to orient themselves in exactly the opposite direction to that needed to facilitate fusion, i.e. with the proton as *far* from the target nucleus as possible.
RE: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent
-Original Message- From: Eric Walker Maybe there is an [IRH] application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) It was suggested years ago that a hybrid of Hot Fusion and LENR might be possible, especially with so-called desktop accelerators and extreme loading ratios characteristic of cold fusion. The overhead cost of hot fusion must come down by an order of magnitude before it makes sense. Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind of hot-cold-hybrid would be based on ICF (inertial confinement) ... where the cost savings comes from using LENR loading techniques to manufacture implosion pellets for irradiation via coherent beam compression; such as to implode targets with semiconductor laser arrays or electron beams based on small Wakefield accelerators. This kind of device could conceivably fit in a modified airplane, for instance, if the reactions were largely neutron free. The Winterberg/Bae plan was mentioned here a few years ago, and then went quiet; but seems not to have languished ... but also not to have made a breakthrough. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg34994.html http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/09/conjectured-metastable-super-explosives.htm l http://ykbcorp.com/news.html Jones attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind of hot-cold-hybrid would be based on ICF (inertial confinement) ... where the cost savings comes from using LENR loading techniques to manufacture implosion pellets for irradiation via coherent beam compression; such as to implode targets with semiconductor laser arrays or electron beams based on small Wakefield accelerators. See also: Rout, R.K., et al., Detection of high tritium activity on the central titanium electrode of a plasma focus device. Fusion Technol., 1991. 19: p. 391. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RoutRKdetectiono.pdf - Jed
Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera
Our alien buddies most likely exist in collapsed dark matter. That is
their drone riding a particle orbital path. Thousands of miles per second.
Our next form of transportation. Green is out, rainbow power is where it
is at.
I hope they can help with the comets
Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Eric Walker wrote:
I can appreciate that it is a UFO, in the technical sense. But did it have
aliens in it?
Eric
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:01, Roarty, Francis X
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'francis.x.roa...@lmco.com');
wrote:
The ufo is so fast it is invisible to the naked eye but can be observed
by slowing film –
Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent
Neutrinos knock off protons thru Beta Decay, bad for DNA, what can I say...
Stewart
Darkmattersalot.com
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'jone...@pacbell.net'); wrote:
Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind of hot-cold-hybrid would be
based on ICF (inertial confinement) ... where the cost savings comes from
using LENR loading techniques to manufacture implosion pellets for
irradiation via coherent beam compression; such as to implode targets with
semiconductor laser arrays or electron beams based on small Wakefield
accelerators.
See also:
Rout, R.K., et al., Detection of high tritium activity on the central
titanium electrode of a
plasma focus device. Fusion Technol., 1991. 19: p. 391.
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RoutRKdetectiono.pdf
- Jed
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Here is some information from Christy for people who cannot use PayPal who wish to contribute: Other options: 1) [The person] can mail a check, as long as it is in USD. 2) If he already has a PayPal account, he can just send us a payment or I can send him an invoice to pay, but I have to know how much his donation is going to be. This still requires that he have a PayPal account. 3) He can call or fax us with a credit card payment. Phone: 603-485-4700 or Fax: 603-485-4710 The donate page is set to their standard settings and I don't know if there is any way around it. PayPal does require a certain amount of information in order to take and make payments.
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Can I pay in bullions? 2012/11/14 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Here is some information from Christy for people who cannot use PayPal who wish to contribute: Other options: 1) [The person] can mail a check, as long as it is in USD. 2) If he already has a PayPal account, he can just send us a payment or I can send him an invoice to pay, but I have to know how much his donation is going to be. This still requires that he have a PayPal account. 3) He can call or fax us with a credit card payment. Phone: 603-485-4700 or Fax: 603-485-4710 The donate page is set to their standard settings and I don't know if there is any way around it. PayPal does require a certain amount of information in order to take and make payments. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign
Hi, On 15-11-2012 0:30, Daniel Rocha wrote: Can I pay in bullions? Dunno, but with Paypal you can at least (after exchange) pay with Euros. Regards, Rob
[Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
FYI: they're beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don't need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase). http://phys.org/news/2012-11-supercharge-atoms-x-ray-laser.html Just as a stretched guitar string can vibrate and sustain a note, a specific tuning of the laser's properties can cause atoms and molecules to resonate. The resonance excites the atoms and causes them to shake off electrons at a rate that otherwise would require higher energies. While it is common knowledge that triggering resonances in atoms will affect their charged states, it was not clear to anybody what a dramatic effect this could have in heavy atoms when they are being ionized by a source like LCLS, Rolles said. It was the highest charge state ever observed with a single X-ray pulse, which shows that the existing theoretical approaches have to be modified. Ultra-efficient ionization of heavy atoms by intense X-ray free-electron laser pulses Abstract from published paper: http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphoton.2012.261.ht ml -Mark Iverson
Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)…** ** Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
Another problem Terry is that if one is using a source that is a subharmonic then you cannot hit it with a continuous train of EM; you have to use pulses, as they did in this experiment. -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they're beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don't need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase). Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
Another thing that has confused the situation is the difference of how frequency is represented as one goes to higher and higher frequencies in the EM spectrum it uses Hertz up to microwave/millimeterwave frequencies; but then changes to 'wave number' when it gets into optical frequencies maybe this will help: Name Wavelength Frequency (Hz)Photon Energy (eV) Gamma rayless than 0.01nm 10 EHZ 100keV - 300+ GeV X-Ray 0.01 nm to 10 nm 30 EHz - 30 PHZ 120 eV - 120 keV Ultraviolet 10 nm - 390 nm 30 PHZ - 790 THz 3 eV - 124eV Visible 390 nm - 750 nm 790 THz - 405 THz 1.7 eV - 3.3 eV Infrared750 nm - 1 mm 405 THz - 300 GHz 1.24 meV - 1.7 eV Microwave 1 mm - 1 meter300 GHz - 300 MHz 1.24 µeV - 1.24meV Radio 1 m - 100,000km 300 GHz - 3 Hz 12.4 feV - 1.24meV From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: theyre beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you dont need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase) Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
It might not be as simple as 350degs. if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they're beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don't need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase). Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent
There's actually a whole spectrum of these ideas, correct? For example Robin's concept of using an MCF device as a source of 14.1MeV neutrons to force fission in actinides (e.g. nuclear waste). Has anyone tried to summarize or assemble a list of these? It could span from the completely mainstream (I think Robin's concept is completely mainstream from a physics standpoint) to the completely, well, you know. ;-) Jeff On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Eric Walker Maybe there is an [IRH] application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) It was suggested years ago that a hybrid of Hot Fusion and LENR might be possible, especially with so-called desktop accelerators and extreme loading ratios characteristic of cold fusion. The overhead cost of hot fusion must come down by an order of magnitude before it makes sense. Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind of hot-cold-hybrid would be based on ICF (inertial confinement) ... where the cost savings comes from using LENR loading techniques to manufacture implosion pellets for irradiation via coherent beam compression; such as to implode targets with semiconductor laser arrays or electron beams based on small Wakefield accelerators. This kind of device could conceivably fit in a modified airplane, for instance, if the reactions were largely neutron free. The Winterberg/Bae plan was mentioned here a few years ago, and then went quiet; but seems not to have languished ... but also not to have made a breakthrough. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg34994.html http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/09/conjectured-metastable-super-explosives.htm l http://ykbcorp.com/news.html Jones
Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
If you actually apply heat as in joule heating, the energy covers a wide range of frequencies. There is a limited amount at any one narrow band, but all of the bands have at least a small amount. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:55 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! It might not be as simple as 350degs… if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)… Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
[Vo]:(Audio) Lewis Larsen at ANS Meeting LENR Panel Session
(Audio) Lewis Larsen presentation at Panel Session at American Nuclear Society National Meeting, San Diego CA, Nov. 14 http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/audio-larsenelectroweak-neutron-production-and-capture-in-lightning-dischargesans-san-diego-nov-14-2012
[Vo]:another interesting explanation
See the My Personal Theory section of the post from Ron Maimon at physics.SE: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/3799/why-is-cold-fusion-considered-bogus/13734 Ron had a long post here for a while now, but very recently he updated it to include new material in his explanation section. The basic gist (of the section, not the update): In order to have fusion under chemical conditions, you have to find a way to bridge the gap in energy between the chemical realm, in eVs, and the nuclear realm, in MeVs. Conveniently, the K shell of the Pd atom has 20KeV of ionization energy. If a K shell electron is kicked out (by a photon, for example), the resulting hole will potentially attract a proton or deuteron nearby, transferring 20KeV to the incoming particle. If there are two such holes, and two deuterons are brought in, they will meet with sufficient energy to fuse. The resulting alpha particle will then race through the neighborhood of the fusion event, ionizing Pd atoms as it goes and giving rise to new holes in turn. Ron sees problems with this explanation, but it is interesting nonetheless. He also has an explanation for transmutations which is worth looking at. Fascinatingly, Kirk Shanahan is one of the commenters on the post. It's a small world. Eric
RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
I don’t think this experiment would fit into that explanation though, would it? This was a coherent laser source at a specific energy (aka, frequency) of 1.5kev. Regardless of how the heat is being applied (cond, conv, rad) in something like the eCAT, it ultimately ends up in lattice vibrations… which are nothing more than quantums of heat randomly being ejected from one atom into another. -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:26 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! If you actually apply heat as in joule heating, the energy covers a wide range of frequencies. There is a limited amount at any one narrow band, but all of the bands have at least a small amount. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:55 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! It might not be as simple as 350degs… if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com? ] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)… Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
Here’s the excerpt from the abstract: “we report an unprecedentedly high degree of ionization of xenon atoms by 1.5 keV free-electron laser pulses to charge states with ionization energies far exceeding the photon energy.” Also keep in mind that this is a coherent light source… Wonder if it’d have the same effect if they simple rotated the barrel 90 degrees? -Mark From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! I don’t think this experiment would fit into that explanation though, would it? This was a coherent laser source at a specific energy (aka, frequency) of 1.5kev. Regardless of how the heat is being applied (cond, conv, rad) in something like the eCAT, it ultimately ends up in lattice vibrations… which are nothing more than quantums of heat randomly being ejected from one atom into another. -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:26 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! If you actually apply heat as in joule heating, the energy covers a wide range of frequencies. There is a limited amount at any one narrow band, but all of the bands have at least a small amount. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:55 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! It might not be as simple as 350degs… if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com? ] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)… Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
There’s “Supplemental Info”, which is a freely downloadable PDF… http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nphoton.2012.261-s1.pdf -mark From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! Here’s the excerpt from the abstract: “we report an unprecedentedly high degree of ionization of xenon atoms by 1.5 keV free-electron laser pulses to charge states with ionization energies far exceeding the photon energy.” Also keep in mind that this is a coherent light source… Wonder if it’d have the same effect if they simple rotated the barrel 90 degrees? -Mark From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! I don’t think this experiment would fit into that explanation though, would it? This was a coherent laser source at a specific energy (aka, frequency) of 1.5kev. Regardless of how the heat is being applied (cond, conv, rad) in something like the eCAT, it ultimately ends up in lattice vibrations… which are nothing more than quantums of heat randomly being ejected from one atom into another. -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:26 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! If you actually apply heat as in joule heating, the energy covers a wide range of frequencies. There is a limited amount at any one narrow band, but all of the bands have at least a small amount. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:55 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! It might not be as simple as 350degs… if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com? ] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)… Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!
I see what you mean. My mistake. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 1:13 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! Here’s the excerpt from the abstract: “we report an unprecedentedly high degree of ionization of xenon atoms by 1.5 keV free-electron laser pulses to charge states with ionization energies far exceeding the photon energy.” Also keep in mind that this is a coherent light source… Wonder if it’d have the same effect if they simple rotated the barrel 90 degrees? -Mark From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! I don’t think this experiment would fit into that explanation though, would it? This was a coherent laser source at a specific energy (aka, frequency) of 1.5kev. Regardless of how the heat is being applied (cond, conv, rad) in something like the eCAT, it ultimately ends up in lattice vibrations… which are nothing more than quantums of heat randomly being ejected from one atom into another. -Mark From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:26 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! If you actually apply heat as in joule heating, the energy covers a wide range of frequencies. There is a limited amount at any one narrow band, but all of the bands have at least a small amount. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:55 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! It might not be as simple as 350degs… if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls! On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)… Indeed. So, look at what frequency 350 deg Celsius triggers in the H2 atom.
