Re: [Vo]:New Article on Brillouin, and my response

[Lennart Thornros]

Jed and Steven,
I think you guys are on to something.
It is the expectation and anticipation that is the climax.
Reading Rossi's comments - I have the feeling he is in a constant euphorium.
I think that is the reason he is doing what he is doing. The question has
been asked here "Why does A.R. put so much effort in . .  ."
Steven you just let me know I must be old as I played with computers in the
early sixties - yeah they were analog but still. Not very much use as
PCs.:)

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648

“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

> From Jed:
>
>
>
> > Dreams do come true, so be careful what you wish for. I dreamed of having
>
> > a computer of my own, after seeing one at the Census Bureau at age 8.
>
> > When I grew up I did have one. It was the first expensive item I bought
>
> > as an adult.
>
>
>
> That was a very prophetic dream you had, Jed, and at the age of eight.
>
>
>
> Let me reciprocate with a similar dream I had when I was about 9 or 10
> years old and living out on Guam. This was back in the early 1960s. I had a
> vivid dream one night where I felt the presence of teachers who were nearby
> but out of my sight. They were telling me interesting things about a
> magical box they had placed in front of me. I got the impression the box
> could make my dreams come true. I got the impression that I could put my
> dreams into the box, and then box would eventually reciprocate with the
> outward externalization of those dreams. It was a very strong dream. I
> didn't know what that magical box was - but I knew I wanted one. It was, of
> course, the personal computer. Back then I have no idea what a computer
> was, let alone a personal computer.
>
>
>
> Personal computers have helped me externalize my visionary dreams in the
> form of digital paintings as well as my compositions. Perhaps if I'm lucky
> that same magic box will also eventually assist me in my ongoing Kepler
> research. But that remains to be seen. Hey! Two out of three ain't bad.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven Vincent Johnson
>
> OrionWorks.com
>
> zazzle.com/orionworks
>

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

[Axil Axil]

The world’s foremost expert on Rydberg matter is Lief Holmlid. He is a top
ranked professional scientist but like other world class scientists(Nobel
laureate Brian Josephson in quantum physics, Nobel laureate Julian
Schwinger in field theory physics) his life's work spinning many years is
largely ignored since Rydberg matter is a pivotal component of hydrogen
based LENR.

Lief Holmlid has discovered the production of many billions of
deuterium/deuterium fusion events activated by a single laser shot that
excites a potassium based catalyst that produces Rydberg hydrogen matter.

Holmlid has also detected the production of an array of subatomic particles
including muons that emanate from Rydberg hydrogen matter when it is
exposed to excitation by both laser and ordinary room lighting. This
experimental observation provides an alternative explanation to replace low
energy neutron production theory for the generation of the LENR fusion
reaction.

In a recent experiment, Holhlid detected a huge flux of high energy neutral
particles that were produced by the laser induced DD fusion reaction. These
particles were determined experimentally to be fragments of the Rydberg
hydrogen matter that carry away the kinetic energy produced by DD fusion.

The Holhlid DD fusion experiment is an alternative explanation and a
replacement for the ultra low energy postulate that is the central LENR
mechanism in W-L theory.

Furthermore in the context of exploding wires, Ken Shoulders identified
both a Bright Mode and a Dark Mode EV that is produced by the formation
through condinsation of metal plasma excited by the heat of the electric
arc explosion. As a result of recent Nanoplasmonic research, these EVs are
more properly interpreted as Dark and Bright Mode surface plasmon
polaritons(SPP). The SPP is always produced by Nanoplasmonic reactions
involving nanoparticles such as those formed through Rydberg Matter
production.

Lewis Larsen co-father of the W-L theory should look closely at the
experiments of Lief Holhlid and adjust his theory accordingly. As explained
here previously, the weak force cannot produce neutrons as postulated by
W-L theory. As a valid alternative, muon production is currently an
experimentally verified mechanism that could produce muon catalyzed DD
fusion.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Peter Gluck  wrote:

>
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-052015-redefining-misinformation-in.html
>
> that's all!
>
> Peter
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>

Re: [Vo]:New Article on Brillouin, and my response

[Jed Rothwell]

Here is another comment I posted in response to myself, in a kind of
monologue.

I wrote:

I do not recall seeing any information from Godes describing the actual
> calorimetry or performance of any of his existing reactors, or previous
> reactors. . . .
>



> I would ask: If Robert Godes has all this information, and he was prepared
> to present it at ICCF19, why doesn't he now post it on his website?
>

Let me add that he may have this information but he does not want to make
it public. That may be his business strategy. He is under no obligation to
publish. I would not criticize him for keeping secrets. However, from the
public relations point of view, I think he is making a mistake.

If your business strategy prevents you from publishing proof of your
claims, then you have no credibility. You cannot expect anyone to believe
you. Since you have no credibility, it looks bad to go around claiming you
have measured excess heat, x-rays, tritium, and you are designing 104 kW
reactors. I think that when a company decides not to provide any
experimental evidence to back up technical claims, it should refrain from
making those claims in the first place.

As I said, he may have published evidence for these claims somewhere, and I
did not hear about it. In that case my analysis is off the wall and out of
the window.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:New Article on Brillouin, and my response

[Jed Rothwell]

Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson  wrote:

> When I was a small child I often wished that certain aspects pertaining to
> my lucid dreams would make an effort to jump into the realm of my physical
> reality. Who wouldn't enjoy being able to fly! Alas, they never obliged.
>
Long after they became famous, a reporter asked one of the Wright brothers
(Orville, I think it was): "What was the most exciting thing about flying?
Was it the first flight? The public acclaim after you become famous?" He
responded: "The most exciting thing was thinking about what it would be
like, before we did it." That, I submit, is the essence of the inventor's
soul, wherein the dream of the invention is more compelling than the
reality, and even in some ways more real.

Dreams do come true, so be careful what you wish for. I dreamed of having a
computer of my own, after seeing one at the Census Bureau at age 8. When I
grew up I did have one. It was the first expensive item I bought as an
adult.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

[Axil Axil]

The formation of rydberg matter is a chemically formulated nano particle
based process. Any alkali metal including hydrogen can form rydberg matter.
For example, lithium can form rydberg matter jut like hydrogen can.


In addition, one alkali element can force the formation of rydberg matter
in another alkali element. The valance electrons are the active agent in
rydberg matter formation, not the isotopic structure of the nucleus.
Deuterium and/or H1 and any isotopic mixture can form Rydberg matter
equally well,

Fro example, Aluminum monoxide can form rydberg matter just like potassium
can because the valance electron configuration between the aluminum
compound and the potassium is the same. This variability in chemistry is
what makes LENR so confusing. Many differing things can act in the same
important chemically related ways .

See superatoms

http://www.pnnl.gov/science/highlights/highlight.asp?id=803

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> The world’s foremost expert on Rydberg matter is Lief Holmlid. He is a top
> ranked professional scientist but like other world class scientists(Nobel
> laureate Brian Josephson in quantum physics, Nobel laureate Julian
> Schwinger in field theory physics) his life's work spinning many years is
> largely ignored since Rydberg matter is a pivotal component of hydrogen
> based LENR.
>
> Lief Holmlid has discovered the production of many billions of
> deuterium/deuterium fusion events activated by a single laser shot that
> excites a potassium based catalyst that produces Rydberg hydrogen matter.
>
> Holmlid has also detected the production of an array of subatomic
> particles including muons that emanate from Rydberg hydrogen matter when it
> is exposed to excitation by both laser and ordinary room lighting. This
> experimental observation provides an alternative explanation to replace low
> energy neutron production theory for the generation of the LENR fusion
> reaction.
>
> In a recent experiment, Holhlid detected a huge flux of high energy
> neutral particles that were produced by the laser induced DD fusion
> reaction. These particles were determined experimentally to be fragments of
> the Rydberg hydrogen matter that carry away the kinetic energy produced by
> DD fusion.
>
> The Holhlid DD fusion experiment is an alternative explanation and a
> replacement for the ultra low energy postulate that is the central LENR
> mechanism in W-L theory.
>
> Furthermore in the context of exploding wires, Ken Shoulders identified
> both a Bright Mode and a Dark Mode EV that is produced by the formation
> through condinsation of metal plasma excited by the heat of the electric
> arc explosion. As a result of recent Nanoplasmonic research, these EVs are
> more properly interpreted as Dark and Bright Mode surface plasmon
> polaritons(SPP). The SPP is always produced by Nanoplasmonic reactions
> involving nanoparticles such as those formed through Rydberg Matter
> production.
>
> Lewis Larsen co-father of the W-L theory should look closely at the
> experiments of Lief Holhlid and adjust his theory accordingly. As explained
> here previously, the weak force cannot produce neutrons as postulated by
> W-L theory. As a valid alternative, muon production is currently an
> experimentally verified mechanism that could produce muon catalyzed DD
> fusion.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Peter Gluck 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-052015-redefining-misinformation-in.html
>>
>> that's all!
>>
>> Peter
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:New Article on Brillouin, and my response

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Jed:

 

> Dreams do come true, so be careful what you wish for. I dreamed of having

> a computer of my own, after seeing one at the Census Bureau at age 8. 

> When I grew up I did have one. It was the first expensive item I bought

> as an adult.

 

That was a very prophetic dream you had, Jed, and at the age of eight.

 

Let me reciprocate with a similar dream I had when I was about 9 or 10 years 
old and living out on Guam. This was back in the early 1960s. I had a vivid 
dream one night where I felt the presence of teachers who were nearby but out 
of my sight. They were telling me interesting things about a magical box they 
had placed in front of me. I got the impression the box could make my dreams 
come true. I got the impression that I could put my dreams into the box, and 
then box would eventually reciprocate with the outward externalization of those 
dreams. It was a very strong dream. I didn't know what that magical box was - 
but I knew I wanted one. It was, of course, the personal computer. Back then I 
have no idea what a computer was, let alone a personal computer.

 

Personal computers have helped me externalize my visionary dreams in the form 
of digital paintings as well as my compositions. Perhaps if I'm lucky that same 
magic box will also eventually assist me in my ongoing Kepler research. But 
that remains to be seen. Hey! Two out of three ain't bad.

 

Regards, 

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:a richness of LENR news today!

[Lennart Thornros]

Thanks. I will see what I can contribute.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648

“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Peter Gluck  wrote:

> Dear Lennart,
>
> I would be glad if you will have similar suggestion- anyway I prefer just
> published papers.
> Your contributions to Ego Out would be welcome- we are technologists.
> Thank you in advance,
> Peterr
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Lennart Thornros 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>> I certainly liked the last link in today's EGO OUT.
>> http://www.strategy-business.com/article/00357?gko=ea297
>>
>> Best Regards ,
>> Lennart Thornros
>>
>> www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
>> lenn...@thornros.com
>> +1 916 436 1899
>> 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648
>>
>> “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a
>> commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Peter Gluck 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-03-2015-very-significant-events-and.html
>>>
>>> Juts read them.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>> Cluj, Romania
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>

[Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-052015-redefining-misinformation-in.html

that's all!

Peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:a richness of LENR news today!

[Peter Gluck]

Dear Lennart,

I would be glad if you will have similar suggestion- anyway I prefer just
published papers.
Your contributions to Ego Out would be welcome- we are technologists.
Thank you in advance,
Peterr

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Lennart Thornros 
wrote:

> Hello Peter,
> I certainly liked the last link in today's EGO OUT.
> http://www.strategy-business.com/article/00357?gko=ea297
>
> Best Regards ,
> Lennart Thornros
>
> www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
> lenn...@thornros.com
> +1 916 436 1899
> 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648
>
> “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a
> commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Peter Gluck  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-03-2015-very-significant-events-and.html
>>
>> Juts read them.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

I did read the "Simple theory may explain dark matter" article supplied by Axil.

 

http://phys.org/news/2013-06-simple-theory-dark.html

 

Excerpt:

 

There are a great many different theories about the nature of dark matter. What 
I like about this theory is its simplicity, uniqueness and the fact that it can 
be tested," said Scherrer.

 

 

Proposing the concept of confining a magnetic field within the topology of a 
torus is an interesting idea. I gather this configuration has been verified in 
certain physics experiments such as in atoms of cesium-133 and ytterbium-174.

 

Now, if I can just figure out what a Majorana fermion (or particle) is. I 
gather it has been difficult to detect... like hydrinos. 

 

More excerpts:

 

"Further, the model makes very specific predictions about the rate at which it 
should show up in the vast dark matter detectors that are buried underground 
all over the world. These predictions show that soon the existence of anapole 
dark matter should either be discovered or ruled out by these experiments."

 

Good! That's what I like to see. A practical way of either verifying or 
falsifying the theory. I wait for the results. If the findings are positive, 
this would likely motivate me to want to bone up on the subject in a more 
serious way.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Thank you for making the effort, Axil.

 

I bookmarked all three articles for possible future reference. The Anapole dark 
matter article appears to possess a lot of complicated algebra. But at least 
it's not 20 pages of integrals. FYI, since my retirement I have acquired a very 
full class schedule of subjects that I'm in the process of trying to acquire a 
better understanding of. This includes occasionally torturing myself with 
courses on 1st, 2nd, & 3rd semester calculus, brought to you by The Teaching 
Company. The company often offers significant discounts on all course 
materials. You just have to be patient in waiting for what you're interested in 
being offered at discounted prices. Just about everything gets discounted twice 
a year. At present trying to understand Calculus takes priority over exposing 
myself to the controversial mysteries of Rydberg matter. Fortunately for me, 
learning calculus isn't considered a controversial or disputed topic.

 

See:

 

www.thegreatcourses.com

 

OTOH, I can go out to Wikipedia (which is every one's favorite source of 
getting to the truth of the "matter" ;-) ) and read the cliff notes on Rydberg 
matter. Granted, the info out there is exceedingly sparse, and the subject 
material is being contested by the Wiki police...

 

Wiki sez:

 

This article has multiple issues. 

Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page.

A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its 
subject. (January 2010)

This article needs attention from an expert on the subject. (June 2014)

 

What little I've read so far on Rydberg matter pretty much convinces me of the 
fact that the subject is going to be way over my head. There appears to be no 
simple or elegant way to represent basic information to give a beginner student 
any kind of incentive to attempt to inculcate the basics. Based on the contents 
out in the brief Wiki article alone... I can see why Randy's Classical Physics 
model of the hydrino appears to be a much more appealing hypothesis for Dark 
Matter - particularly to Randy's dedicated supporters.

 

Over the years I've gotten the impression that are other members within the 
Vort Collective, besides Axil, that strongly lean in favor of the Rydberg 
Matter hypothesis. Jones? Are you possibly one of them? Fran? I sure would like 
to hear some distilled reasoning from other Rydberg Matter supporters, and why 
this mysterious and most likely misunderstood form of matter deserves serious 
consideration for the candidacy of Dark Matter.

 

Can that be done without resorting to a plethora of integrals?

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

[Eric Walker]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:

And anyone who has followed the vortex group over the years realizes that
> it is top heavy with programmers may have learned a little physics along
> the way, but who look at LENR mostly as a control problem.


True, and well-put.  Vortex has a lot of programmers, and some of us view
LENR as a control problem.  And more, as an empirical issue to be sorted
out rather than explained away.

The main objections from physicists who have voiced an opinion on the
matter of LENR seem to be to the effect that it should be impossible by
accepted theories, i.e., applied mathematical models.  Software developers
are generally skeptical of the scope and accuracy of mathematical models
and see their application primarily as a curve-fitting problem -- are the
data we have accurate, does the mathematical model accurately fit those
data, and, once it does, can it be used to find new discoveries?  When you
dig into assumptions in such models pertaining to things like the linearity
of important variables (to allow the use of linear algebra), it is easy to
see room for a given model possibly being a bad fit in some unexplored area
of the parameter space.

Is the speed of light a constant value over time?  We assume it is.  But
what's the basis for that assumption?  That's just one of many things that
we assume that could be queried and found incorrect in the future.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

[Eric Walker]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

So which is it, Axil? Rydberg matter, or hydrinos?


Count me as betting against both.

Eric

RE: [Vo]:Re: Fred Zoepfl

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

>From Eric,

> Software developers are generally skeptical of the scope and accuracy
> of mathematical models and see their application primarily as a 
> curve-fitting problem

That is an accurate description Eric. I think I'll be doing a lot of that for 
the next couple years.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
OrionWorks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

[Axil Axil]

Rydberg matter may be a key to exiting earth orbit, rapid transit to Mars,
colonization of Mars, exploring the outer planets and the kuiper belt
objects and eventually to enbling interstellar flight. The new developments
in Q thrusters where an EMF source generates a push on realized virtual
particles  provides momentum in the opposite direction.

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wokn7crjBbA

Dr. Harold "Sonny" White - Eagleworks Laboratories: Advanced Space
Propulsion

Rydberg matter produces mesons, muons, and eventually electrons from the
vacuum. These negitively charged particles could be accelerated to provide
thrust by pushing against the vacuum. When properly engineered, a LENR
based rocket thruster based on rydberg matter would provide a nulear
powered permanent and constant thrust that might when held long enough to
eventually get a hydrogen powered spacecraft close to light speed.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/nets2012/pdf/3082.pdf

Nuclear and Emerging Technologies for Space (2012)
Advanced Propulsion Physics: Harnessing the Quantum Vacuum.

Can the properties of the quantum vacuum be used to propel a spacecraft?
The idea of pushing off the vacuum is not new, in fact the idea of a
“quantum ramjet drive” was proposed by Arthur C. Clark (proposer of
geosynchronous communications satellites in 1945) in the book Songs of
Distant Earth in 1985: “If vacuum fluctuations can be harnessed for
propulsion by anyone besides science fiction writers, the purely
engineering problems of interstellar flight would be solved.”

It is our responsibility to get the dreams of Mr. Clarke to come true.



On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> The formation of rydberg matter is a chemically formulated nano particle
> based process. Any alkali metal including hydrogen can form rydberg matter.
> For example, lithium can form rydberg matter jut like hydrogen can.
>
>
> In addition, one alkali element can force the formation of rydberg matter
> in another alkali element. The valance electrons are the active agent in
> rydberg matter formation, not the isotopic structure of the nucleus.
> Deuterium and/or H1 and any isotopic mixture can form Rydberg matter
> equally well,
>
> Fro example, Aluminum monoxide can form rydberg matter just like potassium
> can because the valance electron configuration between the aluminum
> compound and the potassium is the same. This variability in chemistry is
> what makes LENR so confusing. Many differing things can act in the same
> important chemically related ways .
>
> See superatoms
>
> http://www.pnnl.gov/science/highlights/highlight.asp?id=803
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> The world’s foremost expert on Rydberg matter is Lief Holmlid. He is a
>> top ranked professional scientist but like other world class
>> scientists(Nobel laureate Brian Josephson in quantum physics, Nobel
>> laureate Julian Schwinger in field theory physics) his life's work spinning
>> many years is largely ignored since Rydberg matter is a pivotal component
>> of hydrogen based LENR.
>>
>> Lief Holmlid has discovered the production of many billions of
>> deuterium/deuterium fusion events activated by a single laser shot that
>> excites a potassium based catalyst that produces Rydberg hydrogen matter.
>>
>> Holmlid has also detected the production of an array of subatomic
>> particles including muons that emanate from Rydberg hydrogen matter when it
>> is exposed to excitation by both laser and ordinary room lighting. This
>> experimental observation provides an alternative explanation to replace low
>> energy neutron production theory for the generation of the LENR fusion
>> reaction.
>>
>> In a recent experiment, Holhlid detected a huge flux of high energy
>> neutral particles that were produced by the laser induced DD fusion
>> reaction. These particles were determined experimentally to be fragments of
>> the Rydberg hydrogen matter that carry away the kinetic energy produced by
>> DD fusion.
>>
>> The Holhlid DD fusion experiment is an alternative explanation and a
>> replacement for the ultra low energy postulate that is the central LENR
>> mechanism in W-L theory.
>>
>> Furthermore in the context of exploding wires, Ken Shoulders identified
>> both a Bright Mode and a Dark Mode EV that is produced by the formation
>> through condinsation of metal plasma excited by the heat of the electric
>> arc explosion. As a result of recent Nanoplasmonic research, these EVs are
>> more properly interpreted as Dark and Bright Mode surface plasmon
>> polaritons(SPP). The SPP is always produced by Nanoplasmonic reactions
>> involving nanoparticles such as those formed through Rydberg Matter
>> production.
>>
>> Lewis Larsen co-father of the W-L theory should look closely at the
>> experiments of Lief Holhlid and adjust his theory accordingly. As explained
>> here previously, the weak force cannot produce neutrons as postulated by
>>