Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?
Jones, I appreciate the recap. But while I appreciate that there may be breakthroughs and perhaps this one goes above the level my post considered... I was talking about conventional nuclear weapons that are declassified. Not black projects, not experimental research. Now you do make a good point, but I'm not sure we really know what Holmlid is doing currently, especially me since this is outside my area of active interest really. I am not sure if can be considered settled sciences well known to create a suitcase H-bomb with conventional nuclear yield. Are you sure it can be? If so that is scary! John On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > You still are not on the right page, John. > > I think this is because you are unaware of Leif Holmlid’s work, and how > that work fits into the big picture of World politics. Holmlid is showing > complete mass conversion of nucleons into energy, which is a step above > nuclear fusion. He has been publishing this in peer reviewed journals for > a decade but AFAIK, none of his important experiments are independently > replicated, at least not in the USA. > > I will try to be more specific on the details. Going back to the original > premise, if we can believe both Professor Holmlid and North Korea – then > what we are facing is precarious situation for World Peace which could be > worse than imagined by experts. The points to consider and combine are: > > 1) Holmlid has presented a technique to make an ultra-dense from of > deuterium (UDD) which has a nucleon separation of 2.3 picometers. > > 2) This material has been shown to be much easier to fuse than > normal deuterium. In fact, Holmlid can fuse UDD and even cause complete > nucleon disintegration, using only a milliwatt laser for triggering. > > 3) NK has been involved in LENR since about 2001, according to an > earlier press release. They certainly are capable of doing sophisticated > research > in nuclear physics and can be assumed to have read Holmlid’s papers. > > 4) NK has this week tested what they call a compact “hydrogen bomb” > but the yield is in the range of few kilotons – far less than a fission > triggered fusion type of H-bomb and less than a boosted design. > > 5) This combination of salient facts, if true, leads to only a few c > onclusions about what is really going on behind the scenes. > > 6) One conclusion, which may be unlikely but which cannot be > ignored, is that NK has managed to make enough of the Holmlid deuterium > (UDD), or even UDDT, to weaponized. > > 7) The great risk of open-research on the internet is that an exotic > material such as UDD, which can be easily converted into energy, can be > produced > and disintegrated without a fission trigger by a Rogue Nation or > well-funded terrorist group. > > 8) For instance, if you do the numbers to extrapolate from Holmlid’s > tests to the 5 kiloton explosion which did happen this week – then it is > possible that a few grams of UDD could produce that kind of result if > fully disintegrated into muons. The ratio for comparative energy of UDD > to TNT is about one billion to one. The NK could even have used laser > triggering. > > > For a sardonic laugh, imagine 1,000 laser-pointers surrounding a tiny fuel > pellet like mini version of NIF. > > > *From:* John Berry > > Looking it up, Boosted Fission if a Fission-Fusion bomb where the Fusion > instead of being the main event is merely a minor improver of Fission > efficiency. > > Fusion Fission (as a bomb) is not possibly according to anything > declassified or any known physics within reason. > >
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Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?
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Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 8 Jan 2016 07:32:21 -0800: Hi, I suspect that a more likely scenario is that they tied to explode a conventional fusion weapon, but only the trigger exploded, not the fusion bomb. > >You still are not on the right page, John. > >I think this is because you are unaware of Leif Holmlids work, and how that >work fits into the big picture of World politics. Holmlid is showing complete >mass conversion of nucleons into energy, which is a step above nuclear fusion. >He has been publishing this in peer reviewed journals for a decade but AFAIK, >none of his important experiments are independently replicated, at least not >in the USA. > >I will try to be more specific on the details. Going back to the original >premise, if we can believe both Professor Holmlid and North Korea then what >we are facing is precarious situation for World Peace which could be worse >than imagined by experts. The points to consider and combine are: > >1) Holmlid has presented a technique to make an ultra-dense from of >deuterium (UDD) which has a nucleon separation of 2.3 picometers. >2) This material has been shown to be much easier to fuse than normal >deuterium. In fact, Holmlid can fuse UDD and even cause complete nucleon >disintegration, using only a milliwatt laser for triggering. >3) NK has been involved in LENR since about 2001, according to an earlier >press release. They certainly are capable of doing sophisticated research in >nuclear physics and can be assumed to have read Holmlids papers. >4) NK has this week tested what they call a compact hydrogen bomb but >the yield is in the range of few kilotons far less than a fission triggered >fusion type of H-bomb and less than a boosted design. >5) This combination of salient facts, if true, leads to only a few >conclusions about what is really going on behind the scenes. >6) One conclusion, which may be unlikely but which cannot be ignored, is >that NK has managed to make enough of the Holmlid deuterium (UDD), or even >UDDT, to weaponized. >7) The great risk of open-research on the internet is that an exotic >material such as UDD, which can be easily converted into energy, can be >produced and disintegrated without a fission trigger by a Rogue Nation or >well-funded terrorist group. >8) For instance, if you do the numbers to extrapolate from Holmlids tests >to the 5 kiloton explosion which did happen this week then it is possible >that a few grams of UDD could produce that kind of result if fully >disintegrated into muons. The ratio for comparative energy of UDD to TNT is >about one billion to one. The NK could even have used laser triggering. > >For a sardonic laugh, imagine 1,000 laser-pointers surrounding a tiny fuel >pellet like mini version of NIF. > >From: John Berry > >Looking it up, Boosted Fission if a Fission-Fusion bomb where the Fusion >instead of being the main event is merely a minor improver of Fission >efficiency. > >Fusion Fission (as a bomb) is not possibly according to anything declassified >or any known physics within reason. > Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:The birth of a LENR Brand
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/01/jan-8-2016-birth-of-lenr-brand.html A fine opportunity, to me. as technologist to speak about a concept I believe in Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:recent comment problem
None of the messages I send appear in my email, but any replies do. I think someone suggested I try unsubscribing and re-subscribing again. Anyone know the procedure for this? HDNPioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Thursday, January 7, 2016 12:07 PM, a.ashfield wrote: I commented on "ehang 184 flying taxi" and left out the : after [Vo] However you now show my email address (not that I mind for Vortex users, but making it available to search bots) and the message does not appear directly in Vortex but only in an answer. Adrian Ashfield
Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Process in Terraforming Applications
Axil, how about considering Naudts relativistic proposal for Mills shrunken hydrogen wrt to the arguments against liquid metallic hydrogen [snip] This idea that the sun is a condensed matter object rather than a gas explains many of the solar mysteries that have perplexed solar science for the last two centuries. But what cannot be explained and what is discouraging the idea that he sun is a condensed matter body made up of liquid hydrogen is how that liquid could remain liquid under the tremendous heat and pressure that exists inside the sun and in its atmosphere.[/snip] My point being that the liquid pressure and temperature are calculated in our frame of reference and those numbers would be misleading if this shrunken material is significantly shrunken via relativistic effects.. an individual relativistic hydrogen atom would be unaware of time dilation, would see more local “space” and less pressure than we would detect from our undilated frame. Perhaps energy transitions and spontaneous emissions from the dilated hydrogen pile up and translate as they transition away from the relativistic frames back to a normal frame in the macro world where we can observe it. If each atom /molecule in the lattice has its own well the heat and pressure would not accumulate till it exits/translates up the well into the interstial space between. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:11 PM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BlackLight Process in Terraforming Applications Intensity-normalized, superposition of visible spectra of the SunCell plasma and Sun’s radiation at the Earth’s surface demonstrating that they both emit blackbody radiation of about 5800-6000K. From the blackbody curves, the SunCell plasma has the same temperature as the Sun emitting the same solar spectrum of light but at extraordinary power equivalent to 50,000 times the Sun’s intensity at the Earth’s surface. The implications are extraordinary. The SunCell plasma has an essentially perfect spectral match to the Sun. As in the sun, this shows that the suncell is producing light from a metalized hydrogen molecule with a graphite structure. See http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/01/07/lenr-is-a-fundamental-force-of-nature-axil-axil/ On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 8:53 PM, mailto:mix...@bigpond.com>> wrote: In reply to Jack Cole's message of Fri, 08 Jan 2016 01:34:39 +: Hi, I don't think this will work. If you apply power to a wind turbine, you will most likely just create a local vortex that redirects air into itself in a form of "short circuit". Much as can happen to helicopters when they hover. The result is no wide spread air current, and a lot of wasted power. >Isn't it fun to play with numbers? > >http://brilliantlightpower.com/blacklight-terraforming-application/ Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
RE: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?
You still are not on the right page, John. I think this is because you are unaware of Leif Holmlid’s work, and how that work fits into the big picture of World politics. Holmlid is showing complete mass conversion of nucleons into energy, which is a step above nuclear fusion. He has been publishing this in peer reviewed journals for a decade but AFAIK, none of his important experiments are independently replicated, at least not in the USA. I will try to be more specific on the details. Going back to the original premise, if we can believe both Professor Holmlid and North Korea – then what we are facing is precarious situation for World Peace which could be worse than imagined by experts. The points to consider and combine are: 1) Holmlid has presented a technique to make an ultra-dense from of deuterium (UDD) which has a nucleon separation of 2.3 picometers. 2) This material has been shown to be much easier to fuse than normal deuterium. In fact, Holmlid can fuse UDD and even cause complete nucleon disintegration, using only a milliwatt laser for triggering. 3) NK has been involved in LENR since about 2001, according to an earlier press release. They certainly are capable of doing sophisticated research in nuclear physics and can be assumed to have read Holmlid’s papers. 4) NK has this week tested what they call a compact “hydrogen bomb” but the yield is in the range of few kilotons – far less than a fission triggered fusion type of H-bomb and less than a boosted design. 5) This combination of salient facts, if true, leads to only a few conclusions about what is really going on behind the scenes. 6) One conclusion, which may be unlikely but which cannot be ignored, is that NK has managed to make enough of the Holmlid deuterium (UDD), or even UDDT, to weaponized. 7) The great risk of open-research on the internet is that an exotic material such as UDD, which can be easily converted into energy, can be produced and disintegrated without a fission trigger by a Rogue Nation or well-funded terrorist group. 8) For instance, if you do the numbers to extrapolate from Holmlid’s tests to the 5 kiloton explosion which did happen this week – then it is possible that a few grams of UDD could produce that kind of result if fully disintegrated into muons. The ratio for comparative energy of UDD to TNT is about one billion to one. The NK could even have used laser triggering. For a sardonic laugh, imagine 1,000 laser-pointers surrounding a tiny fuel pellet like mini version of NIF. From: John Berry Looking it up, Boosted Fission if a Fission-Fusion bomb where the Fusion instead of being the main event is merely a minor improver of Fission efficiency. Fusion Fission (as a bomb) is not possibly according to anything declassified or any known physics within reason.
Re: [Vo]:North Korea... and the UDD "candle"?
Looking it up, Boosted Fission if a Fission-Fusion bomb where the Fusion instead of being the main event is merely a minor improver of Fission efficiency. Fusion Fission (as a bomb) is not possibly according to anything declassified or any known physics within reason. On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Wiki has entries which answers most of your questions > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosted_fission_weapon > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuclear_device > > > > Boosted fission is different from the H-bomb in a number of ways, and an > improvement over fission alone, therefore we can surmise: > > > > 1) Since the yield of the recent NK test was about the same as > their prior fission test, then it is probably not boosted. > > 2) Since the yield is way too low to be fission-triggered fusion > (H-bomb) we can eliminate that and all other high yield choices > > 3) Add the fact that it is compact, means that there is the prospect > of a novel design of some type. > > 4) Given the features of UDD, assuming Holmlid is correct, then > there are options which could include Cohen’s claim of a ballotechnic > driven fusion device (no fission trigger) which was largely debunked > > > > *From:* John Berry > > > > Not sure what you mean by 'boosted fission' but my understanding is that > ALL Fusion bombs are either Fission-Fusion or Fission-Fusion-Fission. > > > > We don't publically have the technical ability to create mass fusion > without fission first, if we did hot fusion power would be a reality. > > > > John > > > > a.ashfield wrote: > > > My secondhand understanding is that many of the weapons the media call > H-bombs are really boosted fission weapons with a shell of uranium. > > >
