Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected

[Bob Cook]

It could be that the solar boost box creates resonances that increase the 
spectrum of the incoming solar energy that is converted to usable current/cell 
voltages--in other words makes a solar photon conversion more probable.


Bob Cook



From: Bob Higgins 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 3:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu 
Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected

>From their video, it looks like they were trying to find a way to eliminate 
>electron recombination in the silicon lattice to improve efficiency.  They may 
>be planning to do that with fields created with the pyroelectric films.  Since 
>the typical delta T from front to back in the panel is 26C, there is the 
>opportunity to have a pyroelectric film to generate a field for use in their 
>function.  In the mean time, they may be applying the bias with an electrical 
>circuit to model the effects of the pyroelectric film on the panel efficiency 
>(in the manner they developed to eliminate the electron recombination).

It is interesting technology.  If they are able to simulate, what would keep 
them from deploying the electronic method?

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Jones Beene 
> wrote:
Stephen,

I’m not sure the E field is static. It could look more like electronic noise. 
The inventor – Kumar - also has other patent apps which indicate the way he is 
going.

20150108851 Photovoltaic systems with shaped high frequency electric pulses
At least one photovoltaic (PV) cell comprising a semiconductor material having 
p-n junctions formed therein, and configured to generate a PV output voltage in 
response to light; and a pulse generator coupled to receive a PV output voltage 
and generate electric output pulses therefrom.

20150107644 Photovoltaic efficiency using high frequency electric pulses
A system can include at least one solar cell comprising a semiconductor 
material having p-n junctions formed therein; and a pulse generator 
electrically coupled to the solar cell and configured to apply electric pulses 
to dynamically alter a band gap of the semiconductor material as photons are 
received

Re: [Vo]:CBCNews Canada: Why the controversial science of cold fusion is getting hot again

[a.ashfield]

Jed,
Ethan siegel is a loud mouth.  In exchanges I have had with him he was 
not interested i hearing about anything that contradicted his opinion.  
"Too busy to look."

I wouldn't worry too much about what he thinks.
AA


On 9/23/2016 5:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alain Sepeda > 
wrote:


ethan siegel bash LENR as fraud based on Rossi and Defkalion
story, ignoring the science

I'm tired


You're tired, and I am apprehensive. This is what I feared might 
happen. We begin to see the harm Rossi and Defkalion caused. I hope 
this will not have an impact on the Congress but I fear that it will.


- Jed

Re: [Vo]:the essence of the 1MW, 1year test

[a.ashfield]

The only independent report, that of the ERV, doesn't count I suppose.
AA

On 9/22/2016 3:16 PM, Craig Haynie wrote:
"*Please try to be logically consistent and if you contradict the 
story of above, give proofs, not suppositions. OK?"


The burden of proof is on Rossi. He's the one making a bold assertion, 
and must therefore prove it. To date, we have seen nothing that would 
prove this effect; though I think the Lugano test provides quite a bit 
of evidence. *

*
*
*Craig*

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Peter Gluck > wrote:



http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/09/sep-22-2016-lenr-finding-essence-of-1mw.html




quite good info..

peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck

Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com 

[Vo]:LENR Info and fighting with an undersized Big Brother

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/09/sep-24-2016-lenr-orwell-s-style.html


 a fine weekend

peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Article: Electrons with no mass acquire a mass in the presence of a high magnetic field

[Alan Fletcher]

From: "Jack Cole"  
To: "vortex-l"  
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 4:58:27 PM 
Subject: [Vo]:Article: Electrons with no mass acquire a mass in the presence of 
a high magnetic field 

Electrons with no mass acquire a mass in the presence of a high magnetic field 


http://flip.it/bkDC21 

Sloppy writing/reporting. Electrons with no EFFECTIVE mass (which can be 
NEGATIVE!) .. can acquire an EFFECTIVE mass in the presence of a high magnetic 
field. 

Since the "environment" (band structure etc etc) determines the "effective 
mass" it's no surprise that a change in the environment will change the 
effective mass. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_(solid-state_physics) 

[Vo]:New Generator Lowers Electricity Costs

[Harvey Norris]

Spoke with the man briefly on listed phone no. He quoted me a price of $ 7500 
for pictured (Low rpm) model. He did not wish to discuss specifics of his 
magnetic design, or the implications of weaving the phases together to obtain a 
higher Q factor; obviously he is still working from a ferromagnetic design. 
Sincerely HDN
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/

[Vo]:Battery breakthrough from RMS

[Jones Beene]

Robert Murray-Smith is an internet phenomenon and a true work of art. He is
a hands-on experimenter, a brilliant scientist and a creative genius with a
specialty in graphene and supercaps. Here is his latest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYVqRLQ_eQ

He has made a "dry cell" battery in every sense of the phrase but not
exactly a capacitor. The difference between the two is the charge carrier
and a few other details. This new battery conducts ions but not electrons.
Best of all, instead of graphene, RMS has found a way to substitute
minimally processed seaweed for the graphene or carbon layer. The key is
probably the iodine in the seaweed.

He is very excited about this breakthrough, as you can see. No lithium, no
precious metals, no graphene - so the cost should go down by several orders
of magnitude. AA batteries from China use zinc and cost almost nothing these
days, but are not rechargeable. There is a billion dollar market for a
perfected version of this. 

In another video, RMS makes a paper battery - ink-jet printed to power an
electric motorcycle for 100 km. Eat your heart out, Elon. Actually, one
suspects that Tesla is already looking for a large source of seaweed, and he
does not have to look far ;-) 

Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected

[Bob Cook]

It could be that the solar boost box creates resonances that increase the 
spectrum of the incoming solar energy that is converted to usable current/cell 
voltages--in other words makes a solar photon conversion more probable.


Bob Cook



From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 1:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu 
Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected


Terry,



They seem to contradict themselves: elsewhere they claim “the Efficoat 
technology” provides 15-20% improvement in power production from ordinary solar 
panels over the course of a typical day.” This would lead one to believe that 
the panels are coated.



If the coating is not on the panels but contained in a remote box, then why not 
sell the box to Tesla and let the cars get 20% more out of the battery pack ? 
Who needs the solar panels?



Hmmm … do we know that Tesla doesn’t do this already ?



From: Terry Blanton

Is there a better description of their tech?  Say, a patent app?  'Cuz I don't 
get the impression that they do anything to the solar cell itself.  From the 
FAQ:

Is the Pyroelectric coating on the panel directly?

No, the Pyroelectric glass and coating reside inside the sealed Ultrasolar 
QuantunBoost™ device. There are no user serviceable parts in the device that 
need to be accessed by the user or field technician.

How does Pyroelectric help increase the power of a solar cell?

We create electric field from a coating of pyroelectric material on glass. The 
field is applied on the solar cell using the electrodes of the solar cell. The 
applied electric field removes electrons and holes from traps and accelerates 
them towards the electrodes. This increases the current resulting in increase 
of DC power from the panel.



So, er, has anyone tried substituting a battery for the solar cells?  After 
all, as Monty Python says, "Every electron is special."  So the origin should 
not matter.  (It was 'electron', right?)



Okay, I'll stop.  Bollocks!

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs Plunging Faster Than Expected

[Bob Cook]

I would add that the efficiency of the battery system to take up energy and 
then deliver it as usable electricity is another parameter that must be 
factored in.


Bob Cook



From: Bob Higgins 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:45 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:New Record Low Solar Price in Abu Dhabi – Costs 
Plunging Faster Than Expected

It looks like an interesting technology.  However, the real metric is not in 
panel efficiency or system efficiency, it is total$/kWh.  This has to include 
the longevity of the panel.  The total cost/kWh over the life of the panel is 
its installed cost (+maintenance costs) amortized over the life of the panel 
divided by the total kWh produced during its lifetime.  Most solar 
installations on Earth are not limited by available area, they are chosen based 
on the cost per kWh produced.

This shows up, for example, in comparison of poly-crystalline panels to thin 
film panels.  Thin film are much cheaper per kW, but their lifetime is less 
than half that of the poly panels, making their total cost per kWh higher.

It will be interesting to see if this technology has a business case in the end.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:41 AM, Jones Beene 
> wrote:
This brings to mind a local company (SF Bay) with an add-on product for solar 
cells which they claim increases the power and efficiency. The technology uses 
a pyroelectric coating for the cells and a feedback mechanism.

The company is UltraSolar. It has been mentioned before here, but it may not 
yet be ready for prime time as initial products received complaints.

http://www.ultrasolar.com/files/Videos/QB%20Demo%20Video.ogv

http://www.ultrasolar.com/technology.html


From: Blaze Spinnaker

http://rameznaam.com/2016/09/21/new-record-low-solar-price-in-abu-dhabi-costs-plunging-faster-than-expected/

Re: [Vo]:Unruh radiation, plasmons, and possible implications for LENR?

[Bob Cook]

Bob Higgins--


If the system is coherent, i.e.,a quantum system, the boundary would be linked 
instaneously.  For example, light emitted from a distant object that is bent by 
a massive object in one direction from Earth is still coordinated with its 
orginal wave front coming directly from the source and from a different 
direction.  The distance that the wave front traveled as it arrived from 
different directions may be  be different by light years.  However, it is still 
coordinated.  This is like spooky action at a distance associated with a 
quantum system extending across the Universe.   The same thing on a smaller 
scale happens in a semi conductor or a crystal when an electron enters the 
material system that makes up that semi conductor or crystal.  The whole 
coordinated system recognizes the electron, and the energy states across the 
material (macroscopic in size in some cases that are so engineered) change 
instantaneously--again spooky action at a distance associated with a 
coordinated (some called it entangled) quantum system.


IMHO the nano particles associated with successful LENR reflect a coherent 
quantum system that can change energy states across the particle during the 
correct resonant conditions created by either magnetic fields or electric 
fields or both. The entire system is coordinated--entangled--and changes from a 
greater potential energy to a greater kinetic energy or spin energy state 
associated with electron orbital motion and/or small bits of kinetic energy 
(emitted to the environment outside the material system in the form of photons 
and maybe neutrinos) occur.   The major changes of energy in the system occur 
among the electrons and happen one small Planck constant of angular 
momentum--spin energy--at a time.  This amounts to an increase of entropy for 
the entire system, whatever it entails.


Spin waves may be involved in the conditions that allow the transitions in a 
given nano particle, coupling the spin energy of the nuclei with the orbital 
spin energy of the electrons.  Spin waves for me are a new concept with no 
discussion of them in my physics classes as I remember.


What does McCulloch say about spin waves?  You probably were not trained about 
spin wave concepts either.


You now have my outlandish (but not off the cuff) opinion.


Bob Cook



From: Bob Higgins 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 9:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Unruh radiation, plasmons, and possible implications for LENR?

I have read Dr. McCulloch's book and find his theory interesting.

However, my training in RF gives me a different perspective on wave phenomena 
that doesn't seem to match up with his theory.  In his theory, he drops out 
wavelengths of EM background radiation that would be filtered in the frequency 
domain due to the Rindler boundary which moves closer to the object depending 
on acceleration.  However, in the time domain these waves would have to 
propagate the distances to the discontinuity and back before any cancellations 
could occur.  The boundaries in question are huge distances away.  For example, 
for a free fall acceleration on the Earth (9.8m/s^2), the boundary would be 
changed to 10 light years away.  The change in inertial mass induced by an 
acceleration will not know of the discontinuity until twice the time to the 
discontinuity.  That would mean that the object being accelerated at 9.8m/s^2 
should not know of the boundary for at least 20 years.  If the object 
instantaneously experienced a change in inertial mass, it would seem to violate 
causality by this theory.

I have written to Dr. McCulloch to ask him how I get past this understanding.  
Do any of you have an opinion on this issue?

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Jack Cole 
> wrote:
http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2016/09/unruh-radiation-confirmed.html