Re: [Vo]:Could the future that started out as cold fusion be ... ta da... thorium fission ?

[mixent]

In reply to  mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sun, 29 Jan 2017 09:10:33 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
>Solution:- Give the cylindrical reactor I mentioned earlier a thick end cap 
>made
>of the same actinide as the blanket, and pass the incoming muon stream through
>the end cap before it reaches the D-T mixture. The thickness of the end cap
>would be determined by the starting energy of the muons. It should be just 
>thick
>enough to slow the muons down to the point where they can be captured by D or T
>and catalyze the fusion reaction.
[snip]

BTW, if Axil's suggestion of a liquid salt blanket is used, then the thickness
of the end cap can be easily adjusted by varying the depth of the liquid salt.
(assuming a vertical cylinder, with a horizontal end cap). This could even be
used as an additional means of regulating the power output.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:Could the future that started out as cold fusion be ... ta da... thorium fission ?

[mixent]

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:19:52 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>Eric - A paper can be downloaded here which I am now wading through, 
>which indicates that a type of internal conversion can occur with muons, 
>leading to fusion instead of beta decay.

I suspect you meant fission.
>
>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:v80JaMsbHwUJ:arxiv.org/abs/nucl-th/0403087+=1=en=clnk=us
>
>I suppose that a muon orbital within the space of another nucleus would 
>invariably lead to internal conversion and if that can be kept at beta 
>decay with no fusion - there could be advantages.
>
>If a reaction of muons with a heavy nucleus like lead can be limited to 
>beta decay with no fusion, then the problems of shielding are less and 
>that advantage could outweigh the low yield.
>
Just from the abstract I get the impression that the muon primarily ends up with
one of the daughter nuclei. This sounds like the same "sticking" problem that
plagues muon catalyzed fusion. Only I suspect it would be worse in the case of
fission because the positive charge on the daughter nuclei is much higher than
it is on Helium.
In short it sounds like you are still only going to get about one fission from a
captured muon, whereas you could get about 100 fusions from a captured muon.

However very energetic muons aren't likely to be captured at all, and would thus
simply expend some of their kinetic energy fissioning nuclei directly (or
creating a zoo of other particles?).
When they finally slow down to the point where they can be captured, they can
either be used to fission a single nucleus, or catalyze a hundred fusion
reactions. The fission reaction would yield about 200 MeV, the fusion reactions
about 1700 MeV, followed by another 2 MeV from the ensuing fission
reactions.

If the original muons are slow, then they are best used to catalyze a fusion
reaction immediately.

If the original muons are fast, then they first need to be slowed down to the
point where they can be captured, and the most useful way to do this would be by
passing them through an Actinide where they can use their kinetic energy to
bring about fission reactions.

Solution:- Give the cylindrical reactor I mentioned earlier a thick end cap made
of the same actinide as the blanket, and pass the incoming muon stream through
the end cap before it reaches the D-T mixture. The thickness of the end cap
would be determined by the starting energy of the muons. It should be just thick
enough to slow the muons down to the point where they can be captured by D or T
and catalyze the fusion reaction.

This way, the kinetic energy of the muons is put to good use, as is their
ability to catalyze the fusion reactions that provide the neutrons for even more
fission reactions.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:LENR THEORIES IN 4- LETTERS WORDS

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/01/jan-28-2017-lenr-theories-in-4-letter.html

peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Axil Axil]

Regarded LeClair's credibility.

The Mosier-Boss and Forsley experiment lends credence to the LeClair claims
of neutron production when the metalized material is accelerated into
matter. The acceleration of the NAE in encased in pladium produces hot
fusion effects  as witnessed by the generation of neutrons only when
lithium is used as a catalyst.


http://pieeconomics.blogspot.com/p/cavitation-radiation.html


"Dog-One wrote:

Since I have the floor for a moment, let me say this much: I probably
should have kept my big mouth shut. What I saw convinced me the LeClair
Effect has merit. The big fat BUT in my opinion is this is clearly a poor
way to convert Matter to Energy. And the form of energy you get isn't
easily useable. Plus, you have the joy of waste product. I'll bet James
Griggs has no idea just how dangerous his Hydrosonic Pumps actually are."


Another interesting revelation from the Mosier-Boss and Forsley experiment
is that the cratering effect is only seen when a lithium catalyst was used
in the experiment. The pressure related metallized material formation
process associated with lithium requires at least 4 times LESS pressure
than that needed to metallize hydrogen.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> The credibility issue with LeClair is something he must address if he
> wants positive recognition. As with AR, there is an overabundance of
> enticing talk but little reliable data, no peer reviewed publication, no
> independent replication, and lots of evasiveness. YouTube has spawned the
> era of fake news and also fake science... and this looks like an instance
> of fake science.
>
> Back to the Subject Heading: A "eutectic mist" for maximum surface area.
> That is enticing because surface area is deemed to be a key parameter in
> LENR and all the more so if there is to be increased coupling between
> photons and metals for SPP. A eutectic would be important to lower the
> boiling point of some metals in order to permit a mist, but does the mist
> revert to "dust"? Nickel apparently has few eutectic possibilities and
> tends to agglomerate so this may not apply. Zinc and silver are candidates
> and are both Mills catalysts.
>
> There has been informed opinion about the so-called "dusty plasma" being
> an ideal medium but it is unclear if the dusty plasma is related to a
> eutectic mist. The Egely experiment - with his dusty carbon plasma appeared
> in "Infinite Energy" years ago (issue 102) and then faded from view. As we
> have mentioned before, implementing a new understanding of plasmonics (in
> the context of SPP) could bring a version of dusty plasma (or eutectic
> mist) back into contention as a preferred way to get anomalous gain at low
> power input, since photon penetration should be many orders of magnitude
> deeper than a porous solid.
>
> But I doubt that LeClair will be playing a useful role in that development.
> Axil Axil wrote:
>
> More...
>
> http://www.waterconf.org/upload/LeClair%20Abstract%20WC2012.pdf
>
> The Water Crystal
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3vqlIGxvk
>
> At 34:00 into this video show, Mark LeClair, the president and driving
> force behind Nanospire begins his presentation describing the production of
> fusion using cavitation.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Jones Beene]

The credibility issue with LeClair is something he must address if he 
wants positive recognition. As with AR, there is an overabundance of 
enticing talk but little reliable data, no peer reviewed publication, no 
independent replication, and lots of evasiveness. YouTube has spawned 
the era of fake news and also fake science... and this looks like an 
instance of fake science.


Back to the Subject Heading: A "eutectic mist" for maximum surface area. 
That is enticing because surface area is deemed to be a key parameter in 
LENR and all the more so if there is to be increased coupling between 
photons and metals for SPP. A eutectic would be important to lower the 
boiling point of some metals in order to permit a mist, but does the 
mist revert to "dust"? Nickel apparently has few eutectic possibilities 
and tends to agglomerate so this may not apply. Zinc and silver are 
candidates and are both Mills catalysts.


There has been informed opinion about the so-called "dusty plasma" being 
an ideal medium but it is unclear if the dusty plasma is related to a 
eutectic mist. The Egely experiment - with his dusty carbon plasma 
appeared in "Infinite Energy" years ago (issue 102) and then faded from 
view. As we have mentioned before, implementing a new understanding of 
plasmonics (in the context of SPP) could bring a version of dusty plasma 
(or eutectic mist) back into contention as a preferred way to get 
anomalous gain at low power input, since photon penetration should be 
many orders of magnitude deeper than a porous solid.


But I doubt that LeClair will be playing a useful role in that development.

Axil Axil wrote:

More...

http://www.waterconf.org/upload/LeClair%20Abstract%20WC2012.pdf

The Water Crystal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3vqlIGxvk

At 34:00 into this video show, Mark LeClair, the president and driving 
force behind Nanospire begins his presentation describing the 
production of fusion using cavitation.

RE: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Russ George]

Way way south!

 

From: Brian Ahern [mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 11:24 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

 

Mark LeClair's credibility is somewhere South of Rossi.  He has made no
demonstrations in over four years.

 

  _  

From: Axil Axil  >
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:49 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area 

 

Mark LeClair has characterized this water crystal which includes its
isolation and photograph. Believe it or not.

 

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Russ George  > wrote:

Cavitating bubble collapse doesn't produce metalized water. Long before the
density has risen to such levels the atoms within the collapsing bubble are
very hot, upwards of tens of thousands of degrees, more than sufficient to
be ionized hence the bubble if not filled with water rather ionized species
that are being compressed. The hydrogen therein easily reaches a ultra-dense
plasma state and it is more or less separated from the oxygen. In asymmetric
bubble collapse that I have for 25 years worked with as a tool to create and
inject this ultra-dense hydrogen, or rather deuterium, into various metals
this state of ultra-dense deuterium becomes obviously useful and results in
prodigious cold fusion and production of 4He. Matching work with ordinary
hydrogen does NOT produce anomalous results. Studies on my materials using
x-ray diffraction and other means in  top national labs have revealed very
stable ultra-dense hydrogen stored inside the metal subject material. Very
potent explosive compression of said materials by those accustomed to such
trades in the dark world have NOT resulted in more conventional nuclear
reactions, or so they said. Depending on the metals used an array of
isotopic ratio shifts of interesting nuclei appears that reveals some
expected and unexpected pathways. The technological development path is
hindered by the tremendous efficiency of such sono-fusion which far too
often leads to thermal destruction of the experiment. Technology development
of this method of cold fusion is clearly possible but requires a degree of
sophistication and resources that are beyond my Palo Alto garage tech.

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com  ] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:19 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

 

Not only hydrogen can be metalized, so can water. The collapse of the
cavitation bubble can produce pressor high enough to form the metalized
water. IMHO, it is this metalized water that produces the erosion of the
target material seen in cavitation. This metalized water can erode diamond.
This indicates that this as well as all metalized material is protested by a
SHIELD of EMF that keeps it from decomposition. 

 

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene  > wrote:

Axil,

Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse
Devices, Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on Vortex
a decade ago when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the verge of
success. 

They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion reactor
for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned many patents,
which are listed on the citation below - deriving from Flynn's work, which
also collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of them: Expired due to
failure to pay maintenance fee

Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in their
IP that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep it in
force. However, in this case the company sold out and the new owners are
pursuing sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called Burst
Laboratories, Inc and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I am not
sure if Ross still follows LENR or not.

I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was a
silver lining ...

 

 Axil Axil wrote:

Also see

Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion and
reactor therefor 
US 4333796 A

ABSTRACT

Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.

 

 

 

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Brian Ahern]

Mark LeClair's credibility is somewhere South of Rossi.  He has made no 
demonstrations in over four years.



From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:49 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

Mark LeClair has characterized this water crystal which includes its isolation 
and photograph. Believe it or not.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Russ George 
> wrote:
Cavitating bubble collapse doesn’t produce metalized water. Long before the 
density has risen to such levels the atoms within the collapsing bubble are 
very hot, upwards of tens of thousands of degrees, more than sufficient to be 
ionized hence the bubble if not filled with water rather ionized species that 
are being compressed. The hydrogen therein easily reaches a ultra-dense plasma 
state and it is more or less separated from the oxygen. In asymmetric bubble 
collapse that I have for 25 years worked with as a tool to create and inject 
this ultra-dense hydrogen, or rather deuterium, into various metals this state 
of ultra-dense deuterium becomes obviously useful and results in prodigious 
cold fusion and production of 4He. Matching work with ordinary hydrogen does 
NOT produce anomalous results. Studies on my materials using x-ray diffraction 
and other means in  top national labs have revealed very stable ultra-dense 
hydrogen stored inside the metal subject material. Very potent explosive 
compression of said materials by those accustomed to such trades in the dark 
world have NOT resulted in more conventional nuclear reactions, or so they 
said. Depending on the metals used an array of isotopic ratio shifts of 
interesting nuclei appears that reveals some expected and unexpected pathways. 
The technological development path is hindered by the tremendous efficiency of 
such sono-fusion which far too often leads to thermal destruction of the 
experiment. Technology development of this method of cold fusion is clearly 
possible but requires a degree of sophistication and resources that are beyond 
my Palo Alto garage tech.

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:19 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

Not only hydrogen can be metalized, so can water. The collapse of the 
cavitation bubble can produce pressor high enough to form the metalized water. 
IMHO, it is this metalized water that produces the erosion of the target 
material seen in cavitation. This metalized water can erode diamond. This 
indicates that this as well as all metalized material is protested by a SHIELD 
of EMF that keeps it from decomposition.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene 
> wrote:

Axil,

Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse Devices, 
Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on Vortex a decade ago 
when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the verge of success.

They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion reactor 
for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned many patents, 
which are listed on the citation below - deriving from Flynn's work, which also 
collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of them: Expired due to failure to 
pay maintenance fee

Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in their IP 
that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep it in force. 
However, in this case the company sold out and the new owners are pursuing 
sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called Burst Laboratories, Inc 
and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I am not sure if Ross still 
follows LENR or not.

I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was a 
silver lining ...


 Axil Axil wrote:
Also see
Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion and 
reactor therefor
US 4333796 A
ABSTRACT
Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Axil Axil]

More...

http://www.waterconf.org/upload/LeClair%20Abstract%20WC2012.pdf

The Water Crystal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3vqlIGxvk

At 34:00 into this video show, Mark LeClair, the president and driving
force behind Nanospire begins his presentation describing the production of
fusion using cavitation.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> Mark LeClair has characterized this water crystal which includes its
> isolation and photograph. Believe it or not.
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Russ George 
> wrote:
>
>> Cavitating bubble collapse doesn’t produce metalized water. Long before
>> the density has risen to such levels the atoms within the collapsing bubble
>> are very hot, upwards of tens of thousands of degrees, more than sufficient
>> to be ionized hence the bubble if not filled with water rather ionized
>> species that are being compressed. The hydrogen therein easily reaches a
>> ultra-dense plasma state and it is more or less separated from the oxygen.
>> In asymmetric bubble collapse that I have for 25 years worked with as a
>> tool to create and inject this ultra-dense hydrogen, or rather deuterium,
>> into various metals this state of ultra-dense deuterium becomes obviously
>> useful and results in prodigious cold fusion and production of 4He.
>> Matching work with ordinary hydrogen does NOT produce anomalous results.
>> Studies on my materials using x-ray diffraction and other means in  top
>> national labs have revealed very stable ultra-dense hydrogen stored inside
>> the metal subject material. Very potent explosive compression of said
>> materials by those accustomed to such trades in the dark world have NOT
>> resulted in more conventional nuclear reactions, or so they said. Depending
>> on the metals used an array of isotopic ratio shifts of interesting nuclei
>> appears that reveals some expected and unexpected pathways. The
>> technological development path is hindered by the tremendous efficiency of
>> such sono-fusion which far too often leads to thermal destruction of the
>> experiment. Technology development of this method of cold fusion is clearly
>> possible but requires a degree of sophistication and resources that are
>> beyond my Palo Alto garage tech.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:19 AM
>> *To:* vortex-l
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area
>>
>>
>>
>> Not only hydrogen can be metalized, so can water. The collapse of the
>> cavitation bubble can produce pressor high enough to form the metalized
>> water. IMHO, it is this metalized water that produces the erosion of the
>> target material seen in cavitation. This metalized water can erode diamond.
>> This indicates that this as well as all metalized material is protested by
>> a SHIELD of EMF that keeps it from decomposition.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Axil,
>>
>> Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse
>> Devices, Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on Vortex
>> a decade ago when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the verge of
>> success.
>>
>> They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion
>> reactor for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned many
>> patents, which are listed on the citation below - deriving from Flynn's
>> work, which also collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of them:*
>> Expired due to failure to pay maintenance fee*
>>
>> Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in
>> their IP that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep it
>> in force. However, in this case the company sold out and the new owners are
>> pursuing sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called Burst
>> Laboratories, Inc and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I am not
>> sure if Ross still follows LENR or not.
>>
>> I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was
>> a silver lining ...
>>
>>
>>
>>  Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>> Also see
>>
>> *Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion
>> and reactor therefor*
>> *US 4333796 A*
>>
>> ABSTRACT
>>
>> Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Axil Axil]

Mark LeClair has characterized this water crystal which includes its
isolation and photograph. Believe it or not.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Russ George  wrote:

> Cavitating bubble collapse doesn’t produce metalized water. Long before
> the density has risen to such levels the atoms within the collapsing bubble
> are very hot, upwards of tens of thousands of degrees, more than sufficient
> to be ionized hence the bubble if not filled with water rather ionized
> species that are being compressed. The hydrogen therein easily reaches a
> ultra-dense plasma state and it is more or less separated from the oxygen.
> In asymmetric bubble collapse that I have for 25 years worked with as a
> tool to create and inject this ultra-dense hydrogen, or rather deuterium,
> into various metals this state of ultra-dense deuterium becomes obviously
> useful and results in prodigious cold fusion and production of 4He.
> Matching work with ordinary hydrogen does NOT produce anomalous results.
> Studies on my materials using x-ray diffraction and other means in  top
> national labs have revealed very stable ultra-dense hydrogen stored inside
> the metal subject material. Very potent explosive compression of said
> materials by those accustomed to such trades in the dark world have NOT
> resulted in more conventional nuclear reactions, or so they said. Depending
> on the metals used an array of isotopic ratio shifts of interesting nuclei
> appears that reveals some expected and unexpected pathways. The
> technological development path is hindered by the tremendous efficiency of
> such sono-fusion which far too often leads to thermal destruction of the
> experiment. Technology development of this method of cold fusion is clearly
> possible but requires a degree of sophistication and resources that are
> beyond my Palo Alto garage tech.
>
>
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:19 AM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area
>
>
>
> Not only hydrogen can be metalized, so can water. The collapse of the
> cavitation bubble can produce pressor high enough to form the metalized
> water. IMHO, it is this metalized water that produces the erosion of the
> target material seen in cavitation. This metalized water can erode diamond.
> This indicates that this as well as all metalized material is protested by
> a SHIELD of EMF that keeps it from decomposition.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>
> Axil,
>
> Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse
> Devices, Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on Vortex
> a decade ago when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the verge of
> success.
>
> They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion
> reactor for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned many
> patents, which are listed on the citation below - deriving from Flynn's
> work, which also collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of them:*
> Expired due to failure to pay maintenance fee*
>
> Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in
> their IP that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep it
> in force. However, in this case the company sold out and the new owners are
> pursuing sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called Burst
> Laboratories, Inc and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I am not
> sure if Ross still follows LENR or not.
>
> I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was a
> silver lining ...
>
>
>
>  Axil Axil wrote:
>
> Also see
>
> *Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion and
> reactor therefor*
> *US 4333796 A*
>
> ABSTRACT
>
> Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.
>
>
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Russ George]

Cavitating bubble collapse doesn’t produce metalized water. Long before the 
density has risen to such levels the atoms within the collapsing bubble are 
very hot, upwards of tens of thousands of degrees, more than sufficient to be 
ionized hence the bubble if not filled with water rather ionized species that 
are being compressed. The hydrogen therein easily reaches a ultra-dense plasma 
state and it is more or less separated from the oxygen. In asymmetric bubble 
collapse that I have for 25 years worked with as a tool to create and inject 
this ultra-dense hydrogen, or rather deuterium, into various metals this state 
of ultra-dense deuterium becomes obviously useful and results in prodigious 
cold fusion and production of 4He. Matching work with ordinary hydrogen does 
NOT produce anomalous results. Studies on my materials using x-ray diffraction 
and other means in  top national labs have revealed very stable ultra-dense 
hydrogen stored inside the metal subject material. Very potent explosive 
compression of said materials by those accustomed to such trades in the dark 
world have NOT resulted in more conventional nuclear reactions, or so they 
said. Depending on the metals used an array of isotopic ratio shifts of 
interesting nuclei appears that reveals some expected and unexpected pathways. 
The technological development path is hindered by the tremendous efficiency of 
such sono-fusion which far too often leads to thermal destruction of the 
experiment. Technology development of this method of cold fusion is clearly 
possible but requires a degree of sophistication and resources that are beyond 
my Palo Alto garage tech.

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:19 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

 

Not only hydrogen can be metalized, so can water. The collapse of the 
cavitation bubble can produce pressor high enough to form the metalized water. 
IMHO, it is this metalized water that produces the erosion of the target 
material seen in cavitation. This metalized water can erode diamond. This 
indicates that this as well as all metalized material is protested by a SHIELD 
of EMF that keeps it from decomposition. 

 

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene  > wrote:

Axil,

Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse Devices, 
Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on Vortex a decade ago 
when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the verge of success. 

They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion reactor 
for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned many patents, 
which are listed on the citation below - deriving from Flynn's work, which also 
collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of them: Expired due to failure to 
pay maintenance fee

Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in their IP 
that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep it in force. 
However, in this case the company sold out and the new owners are pursuing 
sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called Burst Laboratories, Inc 
and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I am not sure if Ross still 
follows LENR or not.

I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was a 
silver lining ...

 

 Axil Axil wrote:

Also see

Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion and 
reactor therefor 
US 4333796 A

ABSTRACT

Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.

 

 

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Axil Axil]

Not only hydrogen can be metalized, so can water. The collapse of the
cavitation bubble can produce pressor high enough to form the metalized
water. IMHO, it is this metalized water that produces the erosion of the
target material seen in cavitation. This metalized water can erode diamond.
This indicates that this as well as all metalized material is protested by
a SHIELD of EMF that keeps it from decomposition.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> Axil,
>
> Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse
> Devices, Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on Vortex
> a decade ago when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the verge of
> success.
>
> They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion
> reactor for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned many
> patents, which are listed on the citation below - deriving from Flynn's
> work, which also collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of them:*
> Expired due to failure to pay maintenance fee*
>
> Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in
> their IP that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep it
> in force. However, in this case the company sold out and the new owners are
> pursuing sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called Burst
> Laboratories, Inc and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I am not
> sure if Ross still follows LENR or not.
>
> I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was a
> silver lining ...
>
>
>  Axil Axil wrote:
>
> Also see
> Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion and
> reactor therefor
> US 4333796 A
> ABSTRACT
> Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:A "eutectic mist" for maximum catalytic surface area

[Jones Beene]

Axil,

Seeing this reference to bubble fusion brings up the memory of Impulse 
Devices, Inc and Ross Tessien, the inventor who used to post here on 
Vortex a decade ago when it looked like acoustic cavitation was on the 
verge of success.


They were located in Grass Valley CA - and even offered a sonofusion 
reactor for sale. Not many were sold. Ross and Impulse Devices owned 
many patents, which are listed on the citation below - deriving from 
Flynn's work, which also collapsed, so to speak. I checked on a few of 
them:*Expired due to failure to pay maintenance fee*


Sad but true. This indicates that the company saw so little future in 
their IP that they let the patent expire rather than pay the fee to keep 
it in force. However, in this case the company sold out and the new 
owners are pursuing sonochemistry instead of sonofusion. They are called 
Burst Laboratories, Inc and have been fairly successful, I have heard. I 
am not sure if Ross still follows LENR or not.


I guess one could say even though the sonofusion bubble burst, there was 
a silver lining ...



 Axil Axil wrote:

Also see
Method of generating energy by acoustically induced cavitation fusion 
and reactor therefor

US 4333796 A
ABSTRACT
Two different cavitation fusion reactors (CFR's) are disclosed.