Re: [Vo]:E-cat impact

2011-12-16 Thread Susan Gipp
2011/12/16 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com

 Following this line of reasoning, it is logical to assume that MY is more
 likely than not a male. I would guesstimate that the odds on this
 speculation are 70/30 that MY is a man.


Are MY two people ? Mary - y (=and) - Ugo ?


Re: [Vo]:[Rossi] University RD has gone away?

2011-12-06 Thread Susan Gipp
A.R. like a wet piece of soap, is a master in answering with void answers.
The user asked why he doesn't start the University RD program and he
answer that it's already started by the *Customer*. So there's no need
anymore to waste half a million euros to start wit the U: the *Customer *is
happy !



2011/12/6 Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com

   A. Casali
 December 6th, 2011 at 7:09 
 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=3#comment-139978

 5) Considering the importance of university RD for the acceptance of your
 technology in terms of certification and authorisations, not to speek about
 the performance improvements that they may bring to your great invention,
 why are you still holding on instead of letting the RD start?


  Andrea Rossi
 December 6th, 2011 at 3:55 
 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=3#comment-140329

 5- I am holding nothing, we are already making our RD with all our
 Consultants, and our Customers are accepting our technology already. They
 don’t care too much who is testing our plants, they care the plants work
 properly, that’s all they want.
 Thank you for your direct and useful questons,
 Warm Regards,
 A.R.



 That’s all folks!



Re: [Vo]:Krivit names some Rossi customer names

2011-11-08 Thread Susan Gipp
2011/11/9 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com

   Because it looks like something I would build if I was in a big hurry
 (well I would have done a better job on the heat exchanger) and all the
 Italian Ni-H research papers, especially that of Piantelli and a few
 private discussions.




In Italy too
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Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff (revisited)

2011-11-07 Thread Susan Gipp
An essential requirement to tell credible lies is to have a very good
memory ...
or at least to keep well up to date record of old claims and check it
before writing ...
Who do recall Pinocchio and his wodden nose getting longer and longer ?



2011/11/7 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com

  At 09:10 AM 5/18/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

 Andrea Rossi
  May 18th, 2011 at 11:12 
 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=488cpage=3#comment-39815

 Dear Dr Pietro Cambi:
 We will not make any other validation test after the ones we already did.
 From November our products will be on the market. As for the RD we already
 made an agreement with other Universities.
 Warm regards,
 A.R.


 (via google translate -- QA in italian)

 Enzo de Angelis
  November 7th, 2011 at 8:32 
 AMhttp://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=enrurl=translate.google.comsl=ittl=entwu=1u=http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/%3Fp%3D516%26cpage%3D10usg=ALkJrhg8rlENzfH0sF78cvBfqBi4bXOHxA#comment-112733
  November
 7th, 2011 at 8:32 
 AMhttp://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=enrurl=translate.google.comsl=ittl=entwu=1u=http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/%3Fp%3D516%26cpage%3D10usg=ALkJrhg8rlENzfH0sF78cvBfqBi4bXOHxA#comment-112733

 Caro Ing. Rossi, Dear Mr. Smith,
  After the demonstration of 28 October that the data you have given very
 positive I think, has received another purchase order for the power plant
 of 1 MW?

  Do not you think that now a public demonstration, controlled by
 independent engineers, for the benefit of the international media can be
 beneficial for the dissemination of E-Cat, and for his knowledge in the
 world?

 [She] said that after the demonstration of the power plant of 1 MW would
 publish the theory that you think is at the base this month, is willing to
 do it or even fear that it might be prejudicial to the trade secret?

 Grazie,
 Cordiali saluti.

 Andrea Rossi Andrea Rossi
  November 7th, 2011 at 10:03 
 AMhttp://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=enrurl=translate.google.comsl=ittl=entwu=1u=http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/%3Fp%3D516%26cpage%3D10usg=ALkJrhg8rlENzfH0sF78cvBfqBi4bXOHxA#comment-112777
  November
 7th, 2011 at 10:03 
 AMhttp://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=enrurl=translate.google.comsl=ittl=entwu=1u=http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/%3Fp%3D516%26cpage%3D10usg=ALkJrhg8rlENzfH0sF78cvBfqBi4bXOHxA#comment-112777

  Dear Enzo De Angelis
 1 - yes
  2 - no, completely useless
 3 - big problem: the patent I have not been recognized outside Italy and
 the theory would reveal much.   Let's see what happens, for now I have no
 definite ideas.
 Cordiali saluti,
 AR

 - - - - - -
 Well  we had lots of tests after May ...   perhaps he'll relent.



Re: [Vo]:Forget John Galt, who is Domenico Fioravanti?

2011-10-31 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed
try to google ivano marescotti. Have fun :)

Susy

2011/10/29 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 As noted, there is a photo of Fioravanti and some comments about him by
 Lewan here:

 http://theeestory.com/posts/215391

 I asked Lewan:

 Do you know anything about this person? Do you think it is possible he is
 a fake who actually works for Rossi? He looks a little old for that.

 I do not seriously think this is fake. But if we had some proof that he
 really is an independent licensed engineer, that pretty much proves it is
 real. A licensed engineer would never take part in a fraud. He would lose
 his license and his livelihood. This is a widely publicized event and the
 authorities would find out about it. . . .


 Is there an on-line registry of licensed engineers in Italy? Can someone
 look this guy up? Someone who speaks Italian, please?

 Here is a registry in California, License Lookup (Verification) for
 California-Licensed Professional Engineers, Land Surveyors, Geologists, and
 Geophysicists:

 http://www.pels.ca.gov/consumers/lic_lookup.shtml

 Here is one for Georgia:

 http://sos.georgia.gov/plb/

 I found a registry in Georgia for people who are *not* registered HVAC
 engineers, that is, people convicted of practicing without a license, or
 who had their licenses revoked.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Rossi Q and A : Series and parallel

2011-10-31 Thread Susan Gipp
I wonder whether the italian version of the answer matches with the english
one :)

2011/10/31 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com

 Rossi-speak ? Every time he says something, he raises more questions than
 he answers

 http://pesn.com/2011/10/31/**9501942_After_the_E-Cat_Test--**
 Report_and_Q-A_with_Rossi/http://pesn.com/2011/10/31/9501942_After_the_E-Cat_Test--Report_and_Q-A_with_Rossi/

 Sorry, it is not allowed smoke here. Anyone who is smoking is requested to
 stop the cigarette. (Just a bit of hydrogen ?)

 Mr. Professor Stremmenos has asked if the modules were connected only in
 parallel or also in series, and when it would be possible to connect the
 modules in series enough long to allow higher levels of temperatures to
 allow us to produce electricity. To produce other kinds of energy, but
 thermal energy. Now I answer in Italian and then English.

 Now in English. I answered Professor Stremmenos that what we have seen
 tonight is an assembly of series of three enclosed in the boxes which have
 been put in parallel. So we had a mixed systems made of series and
 parallel.   

 - - - - - -

 That doesn't match what we were told/shown about the Oct 6 eCat ...
  supposedly three cores are contained in the wafer, which has heat
 exchanger fins attached at the top (and bottom ... not actually seen).

 So is inlet water/steam actually sent in through the three cores in series?


 (lenr.qumbu.com -- analyzing the Rossi/Focardi eCat  -- Hi, google!)



Re: [Vo]:Lewan and other observers unable to confirm claims

2011-10-29 Thread Susan Gipp
... ROSSI SAID ... (as usual)

2011/10/29 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net

 At least the thermocouples were placed by the company’s engineer and not
 Rossi...
 -mark





Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Rossi?s customer

2011-10-27 Thread Susan Gipp
2011/10/27 peter.heck...@arcor.de

 I wouldnt be too surprised if he plans to blow up the 1 MW plant in a big
 bang and then claim nuclear energy. This would solve the problem for him
 and the story can

go on.


It recalls how ended up the TEG story with DoD.

*After this initial success, and a fire that destroyed his Manchester, NH
location, Dr. Rossi returned to Italy to continue the manufacture of the TE
Devices. *


Re: [Vo]:Rossi?s customer

2011-10-27 Thread Susan Gipp
2011/10/27 peter.heck...@arcor.de


 I dont know what is true about this.

 You can judge bay yourself reading the DoD report
dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo(2004).pdfhttp://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo%282004%29.pdf


Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European CE mark

2011-10-24 Thread Susan Gipp
It's also my thought since a while.
The high level of secrecy and mystery, strongly suggests that this move is
another  pathetic  attempt to raise the fading interest over the web.
Since the very very secret customer is secret the large positive reports
will be released obviously by himself. So we will have to take his words as
usual.
About the promised videos I think is not a big deal to hire a bounch of fine
dressed guys, smiling and shacking hands after the big success of the
demonstration.
Somebody, passing nearby of his showroom have spotted some worker (super
mario bros ?) quite busy probably staging the One-Megawatt-Cat show.





2011/10/25 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com

 And I still think that the identity of the Great Customer is sig.
 Rossi himself. Or perhaps his wife.

   –Jouni

 2011/10/24 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
  This is hilarious. Rossi is more fun than the next 20 cold fusion
  researchers tied together.
  - Jed
 




Re: [Vo]:Why has Rossi to build a 1MW plant?

2011-10-18 Thread Susan Gipp
Because this is in his flamboyant nature to show someting HUGE, LOUD,
POWERFUL,  etc. etc.
He's convinced that the more is big, the more demostrates it works.



2011/10/17 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de

 He always said he /has/ to build a 1 MW plant.
 Why /had/ he to do this, when he had no written contract?
 The only explanation I can think about, is, he has to do this because he
 already purchased the material (without having a contract to sell it).
 Maybe he got the boxes in a fortunate deal on industrial ebay for almost
 nothing and now /has/ to sell them?
 Maybe he bought this when he strongly believed, he can build working ecats,
 but the research was unfinished at this time?
 Who knows




Re: [Vo]:More calcs.

2011-10-12 Thread Susan Gipp
I'm sure that for Rossi numbers are pretty meaningless. He often use them
just as nice words to emphasize his speeches. We don't have to take them to
make calculations.
Let's talk instruments (when they work properly)

2011/10/12 Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com

 Rossi seems to be over-estimating pump output (again), the pump can do a
 maximum of 12l/hr (100Hz, 2ml per stroke) as per the spec sheet:
 http://www.lmi-pumps.com/datasheets/Pseries-08-01.pdf







Re: [Vo]:Rossi's semptember test with NASAinvestors

2011-10-04 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed, this time I can't believe you're talking seriously.
Only one out of 52 properly working ?
And how in the earth  they could run nicely and smoothly all 52 togheter to
demonstrate the 1 Mw big-mama-bozo by the end of this month?
They all have to be ready right now ! Even if Italy is the land of miracles,
I believe that nobody in 2 or 3 weeks can heal 51 bad e-pussies.
They must work now and if Rossi wants to well impress the audience, beside
the fine buffet and good italian vine, should allow the public, like a rif,
to pickup a random device to put in the demonstration bed.
Jed, just out of curiosity, have you received the invitation for this demo ?




2011/10/4 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, Rossi pulled a Steorn on NASA!


 Technical problems and delays are normal when testing a cutting-edge
 prototype machine. People at NASA know that rocket launches are often delay
 or scrubbed. As far as I know, Steorn has never shown any group of experts
 anything, whereas Rossi has managed to put on demonstrations and tests, so
 it is not fair to compare the two.

 However, the fact that the prototype failed shows that it would be risky to
 run 52 of these machines simultaneously in a giant machine. I think that
 plan is ill advised.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-27 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed, in your opinion, how can DT go ahead with their scheduled plans if
Rossi never gave to them the e-cat technology (the secret sauce ?)
Somebody is not telling the truth. Which one ?
Rossi, DT, half and half, both ?
The latter is the worst case if the whole e-cat technology is a bluff.




2011/9/27 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:

 What this exactly means, it's still unknown to me. I thought they wouldn't
 have had anything to do with Rossi and e-Cat based products anymore for the
 time being.


 Rossi said that, but Defkalion never agreed. They do not acknowledge a
 rift:

 http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/

 Reliable sources tell me that Defkalion intends to proceed with their
 plans. I think the schedules have been set back by a few weeks but all
 previously announced plans are still on track.

 I do not know what the dispute is about or whether Rossi has a legal
 standing to stop them.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Shipping Rossi container

2011-09-20 Thread Susan Gipp
Accordling this radio interview the answer is YES
Matt Lewan says has been told so by Rossi

http://radio.rcdc.it/archives/fusione-fredda-rossifocardi-assemblata-a-bologna-la-centrale-da-1mw-86847/

About security I would suggest Rossi to put a chair, some food and drink in
the container and travel along :)

2011/9/20 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com

 Is the 1MW container on its way to US?
 Sending something like that can take weeks.

 They must have packed everything and sent.  The end of october is near.

 mic




Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-19 Thread Susan Gipp
2011/9/19 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de

 .

 Someone had the idea Rossi might have multiple small e-cats in this big
 box.
 Peter


Me too. I don't know why but I haave a strong feeling that inside the
fat-cat there are the 4 well known e-kittyes that Rossi showed us in the
past demos plus an hot water reservoir. Just a feeling indeed.


Re: [Vo]:What is steam quality?

2011-09-16 Thread Susan Gipp
Daniel, most likely Focardi don't even know about this Facebook page.
I've heard that, as an old style school professor, is not very confortable
with internet and stuff. When he needs to use emails he needs often
someone's help. He still calls his desktop elaboratore (calculator).
I believe that for him to be in front to an ultimate ultra hi technology PC
or a VT100 terminal connected to a '70s mainframe is pretty the same thing.
Thats also explain why for Rossi is a so easy job to, let's say, cheat him
a little bit when he spreads some of his claims over the net.
Just for fun it's worth to see again this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa_5oEtx1NY when asked who anfd why wanted
the 14th Jan show.
Understanding both Italian and English, lies, -ops- I meant to say
inaccuracies,  come up to the surface like tennis table ball released from
under water.
Krivit really did a good snake job :)


2011/9/16 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com

 That is not a joke, if you follow Focardi's page on facebook, you will see
 that he was very angry with that. Also from Levi's comments as far as I
 remember.

 If that test was a farce, everything is a farce.



Re: [Vo]:Greek press report: Defkalion has not applied for license or safety testing

2011-09-03 Thread Susan Gipp
Another evidenche that the whole e-cat story is built over a pile of lies
How long Rossi will last with this joke ?

2011/9/3 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 See:


 http://www.xanthipress.gr/eidiseis/politiki/9154-xynidis-kontos-aitisi-ergostasio-syntixi-defkalion-.html


 A translation sent to me by someone (maybe done by Google):


 No applications for plant in Xanthi

 With new negative letters answered, as expected, the question submitted by
 the MP [member of parliament?  M. Y.] Xanthi New Republic to
 competentministers on the issue of environmental impacts from the possible
 establishment of Xanthi plant devices producing energy from fusion of
 hydrogen-nickel.

 After the replies of the Ministry of Finance to the Ministry of Environment
 and the Ministry of Development responded to Members of the Southwest there
 is filed an application for the company Defkalion for this investment and
 therefore can not assess the potential environmental burden .

 Indeed the response of the Ministry of Development, signed by the Deputy
 Minister Socrates Xynidis.

 In this report: In response to the above question tabled in the House by
 Congressman Alexander Short [That's a translation of Alexander Kontos --
 M.Y.] , you know that it has submitted documentation to permit installation
 and operation of industrial plant of this type»

 Negative responses from Papakonstantinou - Sokos.

 Respondents who were released from Alexander Short [Kontos], included a
 cover of the Environment Minister George Papakonstantinou and a response by
 the Head of the Department of Industry that the YPEKA not submitted any
 application. Also by the Secretary of ADMTH letter sent by the Director of
 the relative address of Apoakentromensi Administration Lambrini Rizos.

 There is no known application for approval of building fusion power
 nickel-hydrogen has not been filed and that of the crop [??] should be
 ensured through the Environmental Impact Study filed in each case.




Re: [Vo]:Greek press report: Defkalion has not applied for license or safety testing

2011-09-03 Thread Susan Gipp
Very hard to guess. My very very personal opinion is that he really believed
in his discovery. At some time he realized he was wrong and now is trapped
in a huge amount of claims. To sustain these clamis he's forced to add even
more and more. This pile is gonna to collapse pretty soon. Maybe his hope is
that internet people eventually will forget this story.
The only thing that i know for sure is that I don't want be in his pants.

2011/9/3 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com

 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote:
  Another evidenche that the whole e-cat story is built over a pile of lies
  How long Rossi will last with this joke ?

 Assuming this is a scam, what do you suppose is AR's exit strategy?

 T




Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Susan Gipp
The dimmers are commercial ones from an Italian manifacturer. Here the specs
http://www.gsei.it/attachs/P020_01.pdf
In Italian sorry. Try google translator.

2011/9/2 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net


 On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

  At 04:57 PM 9/1/2011, Horace Heffner wrote:

 The total power of resisters (in your drawing) at 300 W + 300 W = 600
 W seems low. Rossi states in Krivit's film he is using 748 watts,
 from which I did the following computations:

 http://www.mtaonline.net/~**hheffner/KrivitFilm.pdfhttp://www.mtaonline.net/%7Ehheffner/KrivitFilm.pdf

 In another demo the power was up over 1000 W.

 I don't see wiring for any sensors that the controller might use in
 the above photo.  There is a white cable coming out of the back right
 side in the film. It is not possible to tell if sensor wires are
 included in the white cables along with the power wires.


 I've seen no wires from the eCat to the computer.  In this setup Rossi
 looks at his computer screen and adjusts the power controllers by hand.



 Oh!  I didn't get that. (Slaps forehead!) I just assumed they were
 programmable controllers.  Thanks for the info.

 This is nonsensical to me.  You can buy 1000 watt light dimmers at Home
 Depot and other places very cheaply. Why go to the bother of building the
 box?

 http://www.homedepot.com/**Electrical-Dimmers-Switches-**Dimmers/h_d1/N-**
 5yc1vZ1xg1Zbnni/h_d2/**Navigation?langId=-1storeId=**
 10051catalogId=10053cm_mmc=**SEM|THD|D27EElectrical|**
 DimmersLightControlsskwcid=**TC|13168|%2B1000%20%2Bwatt%20%**
 2Bdimmer||S|b|7710963877http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-Dimmers-Switches-Dimmers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xg1Zbnni/h_d2/Navigation?langId=-1storeId=10051catalogId=10053cm_mmc=SEM%7CTHD%7CD27EElectrical%7CDimmersLightControlsskwcid=TC%7C13168%7C%2B1000%20%2Bwatt%20%2Bdimmer%7C%7CS%7Cb%7C7710963877

 http://tinyurl.com/3vbjq5k

 Gee, if choppers are used this creates transients in the input, and
 invalidates the use of ordinary current meters or power meters.




 Specs for the controller unit have been posted (here?) ...  the display
 reads  0 ... 9
 As a first approximation they just modulate the power by chopping it, so
 let's say it modulates the power linearly from 0/9 to 9/9.

 Videos always show one set to '3' and one to '9'

 R1 is known to be 300W
 R2 is unknown
 For Krivit the total power was 770W
 Lewan says the controller power was 65W

 So we have either

  9+3 :   9/9 * 300W  + 3/9 * R2 = (770W - 65W)  giving R2 = 1215W  and
 maximum power at 9+9 is 1515W
  3+9 :   3/9 * 300W  + 9/9 * R2 = (770W - 65W)  giving R2 =  605W  and
 maximum power at 9+9 is  905W

 If we could trace the cables then we could pick the right one.
 Or just take the average -- R2 = 910W and round it up to 1KW


 The above makes no sense to me.  Resistor wattage ratings are merely the
 maximum wattage that can be put though them without the expectation they
 will be destroyed. The power ratings are not used to compute the power or
 current through them. If you put 600 W through a 300 W resistor you can
 expect it to soon burn out.

 Best regards,

 Horace Heffner

 http://www.mtaonline.net/~**hheffner/http://www.mtaonline.net/%7Ehheffner/







Re: [Vo]:Where's Rossi and other simple questions...

2011-08-30 Thread Susan Gipp
Brad, all your questions have a very simple and straight answer
www.santaclaushouse.com http://www.santaclaushouse.com/about.asp [?]

2011/8/29 ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com

 With October fast approaching, I have some easy questions:

 Where is Rossi right now?

 Where is his lab/factory that is producing E-cats for the 1MW test?




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Re: [Vo]:The day after Rossi

2011-08-25 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed, how many words wasted !
Just recall how Rossi reacted, time ago, when you proposed to make a test in
Bologna using your own tools and what he said when you asked him to visit
his Florida plant !
Didn't any alarm bell ring ?
I'm sure you are, in his opinion, one of the very very very whatever but
you'll have to watch any demo with your hands tied back and a  dutch tape
strip over your mouth.
Did you already get the invitation for to the one megawatt gala party with
the 4th July like steam show  ?
I whish you, at least, having a fine and fresh choice of snacks and
apetizers :)

2011/8/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 Horace Heffner wrote:

  It is not primarily the people competent in this field that stand to be
 cheated if Rossi's device is a fraud or self deception.  There are plenty of
 people with a lot of money who are scientifically clueless.  These are the
 kind of people that can be suckered in by scientifically inadequate or even
 misleading demos.


 Unless you know of some specific people who may have been suckered in by
 Rossi's demos, I do not think you should worry about this. I know lots of
 people with money who would like to invest in Rossi's discovery. They do not
 appear to be in any danger of being scammed by him. As I have often said, he
 would make the world's worst confidence-man because he inspires no
 confidence. Most investors I have spoken have a terrible impression of him
 because of his demos, his fake PdD and his other quirks. His blog in
 particular seems to be the worst marketing ploy in the history of commerce.

 If he succeeds in convincing people this is real, it will be in spite of
 the demonstrations and his blog, not because of them. I think it is only
 likely to happen if Defkalion is telling the truth, and if they release test
 results from the Min. of Energy or someplace like that.

 I think he writes the blog as a hobby, as a way to relax, and as a way to
 get good ideas from other people. It probably does him a world of good. It
 causes no harm, and there is no reason why he should stop. People opposed to
 Rossi have said the blog may be clever viral marketing, or part of a scheme
 to defraud people, or an effort to make him look mainstream by the title
 Journal of Nuclear Physics. Such claims are ludicrous. It is the extreme
 opposite of good marketing or an effort to appear mainstream! If Rossi
 deliberately set out to make himself look like a disreputable, eccentric,
 over-unity energy claimant, he could not give a more convincing impression
 of that.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed
Here the flow meter
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0LCgn_05ZGY/TWGehaAfm-I/E5w/Ew3nHhdHUDQ/s1600/E-Cat110211.jpg

It's a simple house utility water meter like this

http://shop.compracomodo.it/materiale-idraulico-professionale/moduli-utenza-satelliti-utenza-contatori-di-calore-contatori-di-acqua-calda-contatori-di-acqua-fredda/contatore-acqua-a-getto-singolo-per-acqua-fredda-30-c-e-acqua-calda-90-c-da-1-2-a-3-4-quadrante-bagnato-.html


They mounted above a camera connected to the laptop taking pictures at some
interval.
This meter has in the middle a kind of star. Its spinning speed shows the
water flow. Visually you can only rougly extimate the flow rate.
They misured the average flow storing the meter reading at some interval
time. With such setup it's very hard to extimate the istantaneous flow rate.
It depends how ofthen they read the count of water consumed and this could
be done only after because in this way the computer captures only images,
not values that can be calculated right away.
It's not very unlikely that, if for any reason the water pressure temporarly
dropped, they could think of an unexplanable power peak.

2011/8/24 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com

 2011/8/23 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
  Along similar lines, the tests with steam do not produce such easily
  understood, irrefutable results. But the weakness of these tests does not
  call into question the flowing water test.

 It is kind of sad that Levi refuses to admit that he did poor
 measurements with steam tests, because he was not familiar with them
 and did not realize that when measuring total enthalpy from water
 boiler, water inflow rate and steam quality(sic) measurements are
 irrelevant. Only thing what is necessary for measuring enthalpy is to
 put the outlet hose into barrel of cool water.

 If he had realized this, then there would not be any arguments left.
 But it was Levi's mistake, it is unfortunate, but it was a mistake.
 But this mistake by Levi, also disproofs all criticism by Ekström,
 Krivit, etc., because Levi (et al.) had all the might to do it right
 way, but they failed with the experimental setup and continued to
 measure irrelevant variables such as water inflow rate. Therefore Levi
 is not the only one whom to blame.

 Also 18 hour test had wrong approach to the experimental setup. It
 would have been much easier to measure the enthalpy from steam and hot
 water. Only requirement was to have large enough cooling water
 reservoir that can be replaced on flight. With this kind of setup,
 water inflow rate would be irrelevant and it can be variable and only
 thing what is necessary to measure is the ΔT of cooling reservoir.

 I think that Levi might have good reasons not to publish all the
 details, if data is not very good. This is not surprising, as his
 method was very crude and it did not allow good measurements. But I
 think that his argument about the difficulties of making it properly
 is out of the proportions, because we are not making detailed analysis
 of Ni-H cold fusion, but only are measuring anomalous heat. This is
 very simple to do.

 Levi did it wrong way and he should just admit it. It is not  shame do
 it wrong, because people usually are not experts in every field. E.g.
 even for me to gain adequate knowledge to be an expert on this field,
 required to write many messages to Joshua and others. But this is
 called learning. And also gambling with very high stakes, because if
 E-Cat is a hoax, I have wasted lots of my brain power to nonsense. I
 definitely did not want to become the first class steam quality expert
 only for nothing!

 –Jouni




Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Susan Gipp
There were no unexplained power peaks, except for the first one. So your
statement is hypothetical. It is also extremely unlikely for the following
reasons:
Jed have you had any a chance to live in Italy for some time ?
The test location is just in the middle of an industrial area.
 - At any time any business facility around could have drown an abnormal
water consumption (there is a car wash nearby)
 - Municipal can stop or slow down anytime water delivery for maintenace
reasons.
 - A mischievous guy could have partially closed, for a short time,  the
main faucet of Rossi showroom to make a dirty trick to Levi :)


Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-08-19 Thread Susan Gipp
Can you try to pass along this info to Dr. Rossi and/or one of the V.V.H.L.
(very very high level) scientist that are going to test the One Megawatt
Huge Cat ?

2011/8/19 Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com

 Hallo,

 I stumbled upon in the internet a very simple method for doing
 extremely accurate (up to two or three significant digits, depending
 on insulation) calorimetric analysis for any water boiler. Method is
 simple and all measurements are accurate:

 – Just weight 5 kg water into bucket.
 – Measure the temperature of water. (preferred temperature is the same
 as inlet water temperature)
 – Put hot water/steam outlet hose into bucket for 5 minutes.
 – After the experiment, weight the water in the bucket and measure the
 temperature change.
 – To refine accuracy, after the experiment, observe for 5 min how fast
 70°C water is cooling.

 This gives accurately the amount of heat outlet hose is carrying with
 steam and hot water. It is sad that Mats Lewan did not realize this
 simple to do calorimetric method. If he had realized this, he would
 have observed ΔT to be around 30-40°C and this would have spared us
 all from lots of excess heat generated in discussion forums.

 This is also strong argument that sloppy science in E-Cat
 demonstrations was not Rossi's fault, but those independent observers,
 such as Galantini, Levi, Lewan, Kullander  Essén, could have just
 pointed out this simple and accurate calorimetric method, if they had
 been smart enough. But instead Galantini, Kullander, etc. performed
 irrelevant measurements when they tried to measure wetness of steam,
 although it is well known fact that all water boilers on Earth produce
 ca. 98% quality steam (±0.015), in normal pressure.

 –Jouni




Re: [Vo]:Another Defkalion statement on PESN

2011-08-10 Thread Susan Gipp
To be honest would be better to say:

*No one in the world holds any (working) E-Cat, even us, so far.*

2011/8/10 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com

  At 11:05 AM 8/10/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

  http://pesn.com/2011/08/10/9501891_Defkalion_Responds_in_Support_of_Rossi/


 Andrea Rossi
  August 10th, 2011 at 4:02 
 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=11#comment-60743

 Dear Luke Mortensen:
 No one in the world holds any E-Cat, but us, so far.
 Warm Regards,
 A.R.


 Hard to well if it's actually conflicting with what Rossi as said
 (technically).


 How many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin?

 Defkalion could have submitted a system with a dummy core for Greek
 qualification (hydrogen system etc), but that seems a bit pointless.
 Rossi could have hand-carried a core to Defkalion, run tests, and then
 taken it way with him.





Re: [Vo]:Galantini report

2011-08-08 Thread Susan Gipp
At 1 he does not say what is cubic/meter. Instrument manifacturer says air,
he says nothing, hoping to hide in this way the first and bigger error made
in the measurement.
With these basis, all the rest appears to me quite meaningless .

2011/8/8 Enzo sv4...@gmail.com


 http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3228358.ece/BINARY/Galantini+steam+report.pdf