Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'
In reply to Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01 -0700: Hi, [snip] Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily- produceable atom clusters: http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article. This may explain something else - the whitegold story. Purported among other things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these atoms are going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at least some superatom substances (especially those they claim are far heavier than Uranium). It would be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter is bombarded with high energy electrons, which could easily produce lots of individual atoms that then may recondense into clusters mimicking other elements. Furthermore, they used metals as targets, and this current work seems to imply that conductors are a prerequisite. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
[Vo]:Meyer and Casimir
The Casimir force can either work to expand or contract an object, depending on the shape. It has been shown that it works to expand a sphere. Suppose that it causes an ellipsoid to contract. Now apply a high voltage to a dielectric substance (such as pure water), and the individual atoms will stretch in one direction, becoming ellipsoidal. When the voltage is relaxed again, they return to their spherical shape. If the Casimir force does work first to compress the ellipsoid , then to expand the sphere, then it does net work in both directions, and Stanley Meyer's electrolysis device has become a Casimir force driven vacuum energy pump. It works best when no current flows (i.e. very pure water), and with high voltage high frequency power. The power output is directly proportional to the operating frequency, and probably also to the voltage (since the latter determines the degree of distortion of the atoms). The optimal voltage is just below the breakdown voltage of pure water at the given separation distance between the electrodes. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vo]:EC Engineering
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:10:01 -0500: Hi, See also http://www.atomicprecision.com/blog/2008/06/16/summary-for-prof-roessler/ and http://aias.us/ [snip] Anyone know anything about EC Engineering and an individual named Horst Eckardt. I can't find anything of interest at what I presume is the engineering firm's web site. The following blog appears to discusses a prototype that is ...far in advance of anything that was available to STEORN., - not that a blog is a definitive scientific endorsement of anything significant. ;-) I can't find anything on Google that discusses the matter in more detail. The blog later briefly mentions the Orion project, and as such, blows my cover thanks to Terry. See: http://www.atomicprecision.com/blog/2008/07/01/building-and-patenting-new-devices/ http://tinyurl.com/3zwy57 BTW, The mother ship never did pick me up. Guess I must learn to mingle with the natives. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:EC Engineering
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:10:01 -0500: Hi, [snip] Anyone know anything about EC Engineering and an individual named Horst Eckardt. I can't find anything of interest at what I presume is This page has references to his papers. http://aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitlepageTitle=Publications You may also find this of interest:- http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.4433 [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
[Vo]:The sea of energy
Suppose that intelligent galactic races use tachyons for communication, and some of their comms channels pass right through the Earth. If these tachyons react with some magnetic fields, then perhaps the net result is negentropy, resulting in some magic magnet motors using cold electricity to convert ambient heat into useful work. From our unsophisticated point of view, it looks like a bonanza, but from their point of view, we are just an annoyance that is disrupting their communications. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:EC Engineering
In reply to OrionWorks's message of Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:10:01 -0500: Hi, See also http://www.atomicprecision.com/blog/2008/06/16/summary-for-prof-roessler/ and http://aias.us/ [snip] Anyone know anything about EC Engineering and an individual named Horst Eckardt. I can't find anything of interest at what I presume is the engineering firm's web site. The following blog appears to discusses a prototype that is ...far in advance of anything that was available to STEORN., - not that a blog is a definitive scientific endorsement of anything significant. ;-) I can't find anything on Google that discusses the matter in more detail. The blog later briefly mentions the Orion project, and as such, blows my cover thanks to Terry. See: http://www.atomicprecision.com/blog/2008/07/01/building-and-patenting-new-devices/ http://tinyurl.com/3zwy57 BTW, The mother ship never did pick me up. Guess I must learn to mingle with the natives. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:03:58 +0200: Hi, [snip] I don't count vibrational since they aren't excited at these temperatures. I have clarified this in the file now. I also describe the rotational as ½mv^2. That make a total of five. As I have only used rotation around one axis I have taken the energy to be 1/5 of the total. I still don't understand why you take 1/5 rather than 2/5, but then that's your decision. Hope to be able to update the calculus with the magnetic moment sometime. Help to know about how the charges are distributed on an gas ion would help. I suspect that because the atoms are equal, the charge oscillates back and forth across the molecule. I also need info on how to ionize air and what typical ionization levels are. The degree of ionization can be determined with the Saha equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saha_equation) as Fred Sparber has pointed out many times. :) Ionization energies of specific types of molecules can be found at: http://webbook.nist.gov/chemistry/form-ser.html.en-us.en One thing I would like to include is radiation from currents in air due to many molecules oscillating together. i don't know how to do this right now. Even within an air current, oscillations will still have random phase and direction, so I don't think air currents are going to make any difference. (Besides, the velocity of an air current is trivial relative to the velocities of individual molecules). As far as I know from gas dynamics it is very rare for many molecules close to each other to move in the same direction. Precisely. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:Re: U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:09:23 +0200: Hi, You are correct that what matters is $/W, however the average efficiency is important when it comes to calculating that figure, and also when one wants to know just how much space is going to be required for a given capacity. You're right, 14% is _not_ their average efficiency. Their present average is 9 to 10%, see: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg24788.html But what matters ultimately for solar power plants is $/W, not efficiency, for example the 250MW plant Southern California Edison is presently deploying seems to be only 4% efficient, see: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg25619.html Michel [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:Electromagnetic radiation from ionized air - electrostatic cooling
In reply to David Jonsson's message of Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:00:17 +0200: Hi David, [snip] Please check http://djk.se/physics/ [snip] Degrees of freedom is 5 so the relation between kinetic energy and heat is Eheat=k BT=5 mv 2 2 The rotational energy of an air molecule is for one degree of freedom is one fifth of the above If there are 3 degrees of translation, then there should also be 3 degrees of rotation, except that 1 of these is about the molecular axis, which leaves only 2. Thus, 5 altogether so far. There is also 1 degree of vibrational freedom (along the molecular axis), hence 6 in all IMO. Of these, 2 are rotational, hence 1/3 of the total. This isn't my strong suit, so anyone feel free to correct. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.
Re: [Vo]:the Fall Guys
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:44:19 +: Hi, [snip] Is it hopeless to remind our fellow citizens that we didn't leave the Stone Age because we ran out of stones? What makes you think we left the stone age? :) [snip]
Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:39:09 -0400: Hi, [snip] The informaltion about Nanosolar with printed PV with 14% efficiency looks most interesting, but you need to deploy a few square miles to find the 'gotchas' through wind, sand and rain. [snip] Note that 14% is the *best* they have achieved. It would be interesting to know what the average is.
Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:59:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] Why they plan to make hydrogen I do not know. Why not just react the stuff in a fuel cell and make electricity. [snip] I think the idea of using Hydrogen is as a transport fuel. My question is why not use their solid fuel reactor in a vehicle powered by a steam turbine? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Vo]:Ice confirmed on Mars
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:49:16 -0800: Hi, I wonder what the temperature is? Could the white substance be dry-ice? (Given that the atmosphere is primarily CO2). [snip] http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/phoenix/images.php?fileID=14060 Some of the objects in the above black and white photos appear to move sideways, not just sublimate. More than just ice? Stuff growing? Small moving things at the bottom of the photo, just beyond the end of the trench, look like little balls on top of growing stalks. The the effect is not just due to a changing sun angle. Two stalks at the bottom lip of the right hand trench move in opposed directions. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/phoenix/release.php?ArticleID=1756 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/phoenix/images.php?fileID=14120 Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:death star
In reply to leaking pen's message of Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:28:23 -0700: Hi, [snip] I would like to see some comparamoter picture setups, not something that seems completely computer generated. OTOH, it would explain why so many measures that sound good but no real congressman dares to implement, are planned for 2013. ;) On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:13 PM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vortexians; Several years ago Pat Bailey started sending me emails about Nibiru, the legendary 11th planet. My response was yawn, do you have any photographs? No one did. No photographs, no interest. Not that there's anything I (or any body else) could do about a planetary sized (or even a mountain sized) object any way, eh? Well the other day he sent me this link, http://youtube.com/watch?v=XJb0Uu0_HP8feature=related . It might be even worse than a jupiter sized object, it might be a neutron star. Stick your head in between your legs, and kiss your _ss goodbye. See also:- http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/bluestar.htm
[Vo]:Arie de Geus
Hi, As best as I can remember, Arie said that he created fusion in a vortex when ions traveled at nearly the speed of light. This may be reasonable, if the particles own magnetic field at those velocities was almost as strong as the Coulomb field, effectively countering it sufficiently to allow the nuclear force to dominate. (See e.g. http://www.vrijeenergiemachine.nl/content/view/14/2/ ) This affect may also be occurring in microscopic vortices in CF cathodes, see the cover photo of Mizuno's book Nuclear Transmutation: The reality of Cold Fusion (see:- http://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Transmutation-Reality-Cold-Fusion/dp/1892925001/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1214457245sr=8-1 ) Where the explosive craters, look for all the world, like little vortices. In short the similarity may be more than coincidence. Arie created his vortices within a strong electric field. Perhaps the strong field momentarily created when a crack forms is sufficient to do this on a microscopic scale during CF?
