[Vo]: Mizunos Book Cover

2006-06-16 Thread Grimer
I came across this animation...

http://www.ilight.com/

...and was struck by the resemblance to the 
photo on Mizuno's book cover.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/sitbv3/reader/ref=sib_dp_pt/
102-7351500-5733754?%5Fencoding=UTF8asin=1892925001

http://tinyurl.com/rd4c9

I now understand just what that photo is 
telling us though I don't expect many people
to take me seriously since the congnitive 
dissonance of the explanation is too great.

The photo is showing the splashes of material
thrown up by the collapse of the roof of a 
nuclear explosion cavity which is at Beta-
atmosphere pressures vastly below ambient.

The different cones are caused by different
pieces hitting the floor of the cavity at 
enormous speed. This enormous speed arises 
from the huge pressure differential between
the outside and the inside. The way they
radiate out shows that the different parts
of the collapse dome are projected along
their respective diameters in accordance
with the force vectors operating,

Ah well, it shows that nucular (pace Dubya)
reactions are definitely taking place. It
would take those kind of pressures to open
up such a huge Beta-atmosphere cavity in
a metal.

The structures are not unlike that famous 
photo of a drop impacting on the surface of
milk.

Frank Grimer




Re: [Vo]: Mizunos Book Cover

2006-06-16 Thread hohlrauml6d



-Original Message-
From: Grimer

It
would take those kind of pressures to open
up such a huge Beta-atmosphere cavity in
a metal.



Is it really happening *in* the metal or just at the metal surface?  
Like a Beta-atm black hole impacting the surface?


Terry



Re: [Vo]: Mizunos Book Cover

2006-06-16 Thread Grimer
At 12:30 pm 16/06/2006 -0400, Terry wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Grimer

It
would take those kind of pressures to open
up such a huge Beta-atmosphere cavity in
a metal.



Is it really happening *in* the metal or just at the metal surface?  
Like a Beta-atm black hole impacting the surface?

Terry


A fair question, Terry.   Mmm

You would need a number of black holes of different sizes
all impacting at the same instant to produce that pattern.
If the domed roof of a cavity is imploded then one would
expect different sized chunks and they would all impact at
virtually the same instant. Also you will notice that the
central splashes are small. This corresponds to the apex of 
the dome which is the thinnest part.

Howzatt - as they say in the that bat and ball game that
Yanks don't play cos they might get hurt by a bouncer. g

Frank



Re: [Vo]: Mizunos Book Cover

2006-06-16 Thread hohlrauml6d



-Original Message-
From: Grimer

You would need a number of black holes of different sizes
all impacting at the same instant to produce that pattern.



Agreed.  However, I once saw a viddy of a tornado that split into three 
separate ones then later recombined into the one.  It looks like little 
vortices would just fit into those holes.


Hey, lookie . . . they seem to be in groups of threes!

Terry



Re: [Vo]: Mizunos Book Cover

2006-06-16 Thread hohlrauml6d



-Original Message-
From: Grimer

Also you will notice that the
central splashes are small. This corresponds to the apex of
the dome which is the thinnest part.



You are probably right; however, it's your fault that I look at things 
in a different way.  We expect those void are due to eruptive blowouts. 
But, just suppose the material was SUCKED out by B-a hole.


Terry



Re: [Vo]: Mizunos Book Cover

2006-06-16 Thread Grimer
At 01:40 pm 16/06/2006 -0400, you wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Grimer

Also you will notice that the
central splashes are small. This corresponds to the apex of
the dome which is the thinnest part.



You are probably right; however, it's your fault that I look at things 
in a different way.  We expect those void are due to eruptive blowouts. 
 But, just suppose the material was SUCKED out by B-a hole.

Terry


Well, I did originally suggest they were B-atm. tornadoes 
resulting from the puncturing of a Beta-atmosphere cavity
and I must admit they do look more like tornados than
splashes. Maybe its a tornado-like splash, i.e. a splash
with a lot of rotation if you can imagine such a thing.

Or better still, B-atm. vacuum induced tornados which
whip up the molten material from the dome shrapnel
impacts.

One thing for sure, it's dramatic enough to be nuclear.
The solids are behaving like liquids which implies a 
high speed event.

Frank