Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-12 Thread thomas malloy

Terry Blanton wrote:


Have I written an untruth?

I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce.


Good come back!


I ask for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn.


You don't steal, or force other people to do business with you.

Force is the great evil that has no place in a rational world. 


Bravo! The way for any of the Socialists systems to work of coercion.


Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force,
by men who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear
and force are more practical.
 


Exactly.


grok g...@resist.ca wrote:

As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:
 


On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:
 


You can try all the mockery you want, fella. Worx on Fox News too, I
understand. Maybe you people understand a few things abouyt fyzix -- and
maybe you don't -- but you know jackshit about politix, that's pretty
clear.
   


Clear?  Clearly I was in error since bots can spell.

I understand one thing about politics.  It churns.

Terry
 


ad hominem argumentation: the last refuge of a scoundrel.
   

Terry's criticisms of your ideas are based on your twisted view of 
reality Grok, deal with it! You have the misguided idea that everything 
has a based on economics, and that the economic system will function on 
demand. You seem to be blind to the spiritual forces which control the 
world.


The most misguided aspect of your ideas is that you fail to see that the 
abuses, which you so rightly decry, are a product of the Oligarchy, 
which has fostered them. Wake up, you're one of the bots who are 
promoting their Globalist Socialist agenda.



Did I spell 'scoundrel' correctly, sirrah..?

   






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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-12 Thread Harry Veeder


- Original Message -
From: thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:00 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in
developing countries

 Terry Blanton wrote:
 
 Have I written an untruth?
 
 I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce.
 
 Good come back!
 
  I ask for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn.
 
 You don't steal, or force other people to do business with you.

It is entirely private, eh? 
What happens in vegas stays in vegas.

Harry



Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-12 Thread grok
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Legends in our own minds, aren't We..?
(And that's the sarcastic 'We' for you literal-minded types.)

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As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 Terry Blanton wrote:

 Have I written an untruth?

 I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce.

 Good come back!

 I ask for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn.

 You don't steal, or force other people to do business with you.

 Force is the great evil that has no place in a rational world. 

 Bravo! The way for any of the Socialists systems to work of coercion.

 Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force,
 by men who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear
 and force are more practical.
  

 Exactly.




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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-11 Thread OrionWorks
It's the weekend. I have some free time...

Grok sez:

 Drivel indeed. In case people have forgotten, what got
 this ball rolling again was a posting on some usual garbage
 in the bourgeois media (you really hate even _seeing_ that
 word bourgeois, don't you?) where some liberal type thinx
 he's going to save the Thralled World with some new go-go
 gadget. When the real problem is, in fact, *political*.

Mr. Beaty! Mr. Beaty!

Grok used the Bourgeois word on us again!

Make him stop!!!

Sniff... sniff...

* * * *

Makes me want to post that liberal type thinx link again.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/09/solar.oven.global.warming/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/cec9km

I hope Mr. Bonner's efforts continue to succeed, not because of a
combination of liberal type thinxing and diabolical northern
imperialist plans to dispense limited supplies of charity to the
have-nots, to maintain control over the masses. I hope Bonner's
efforts succeed because one must be healthy in order to enjoy the
fruits of extremely cheap electricity that hopefully will soon become
ubiquitous to everyone on the planet.

...which BTW, is one of the primary goals many within the Vort
Collective, bourgeois they may be, hope for, including, I suspect, Mr.
Lawrence.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-11 Thread OrionWorks
Grok sez:

 ...who should hire you [Mr. Lawrence] to do honest science..?
 You're clearly intellectually dishonest when it suits you.

Actually, Mr. Lawrence was quite helpful in getting me up to speed
concerning the application of algorithms that could be used to solve a
number of celestial mechanical computer simulations I was working on.
If I were a member of an RD team I'd recommend to the CEO that Mr.
Lawrence be hired as a consultant – in a heartbeat.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:

 The U.S. petit-bourgeoisie have a hyper-trophied view of their place in
 the Universe (given the totalitarian mass-media environment which bathes
 them in relentless distortions of Reality, 24/7).

You are a bot, right?  If not, you are one really funny guy.  My Lenin
and Marx are named John and Groucho (You're only as old as the women
you feel.)

Are you at all familiar with Kamen's contributions to humanity?  His
first invention?  Or, do you know anyone with a stint?

Warmest regards,

Terry



Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread thomas malloy

Terry Blanton wrote:


On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:
 


The U.S. petit-bourgeoisie have a hyper-trophied view of their place in
the Universe (given the totalitarian mass-media environment which bathes
them in relentless distortions of Reality, 24/7).
   



You are a bot, right?  If not, you are one really funny guy.  My Lenin
and Marx are named John and Groucho (You're only as old as the women
you feel.)
 

Grok the Bot, that would be funny if: he didn't take himself so 
seriously. If my arguments have run off him like water off of a duck. If 
there were'nt thousands more like him.



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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:
 
  The U.S. petit-bourgeoisie have a hyper-trophied view of their place in
  the Universe (given the totalitarian mass-media environment which bathes
  them in relentless distortions of Reality, 24/7).
 
 You are a bot, right?  If not, you are one really funny guy.  My Lenin
 and Marx are named John and Groucho (You're only as old as the women
 you feel.)
 
 Are you at all familiar with Kamen's contributions to humanity?  His
 first invention?  Or, do you know anyone with a stint?
 
 Warmest regards,

right...

You can try all the mockery you want, fella. Worx on Fox News too, I
understand. Maybe you people understand a few things abouyt fyzix -- and
maybe you don't -- but you know jackshit about politix, that's pretty
clear.

Analysis stands as-is.


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 Grok the Bot, that would be funny if: he didn't take himself so
 seriously. If my arguments have run off him like water off of a duck.
 If  there were'nt thousands more like him.

As I recall, your arguments haven't even gotten to first base, AFAIC.
Entertain me with some UFO stuff or sumthin'.


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:

 You can try all the mockery you want, fella. Worx on Fox News too, I
 understand. Maybe you people understand a few things abouyt fyzix -- and
 maybe you don't -- but you know jackshit about politix, that's pretty
 clear.

Clear?  Clearly I was in error since bots can spell.

I understand one thing about politics.  It churns.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:
 
  You can try all the mockery you want, fella. Worx on Fox News too, I
  understand. Maybe you people understand a few things abouyt fyzix -- and
  maybe you don't -- but you know jackshit about politix, that's pretty
  clear.
 
 Clear?  Clearly I was in error since bots can spell.
 
 I understand one thing about politics.  It churns.
 
 Terry

ad hominem argumentation: the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Did I spell 'scoundrel' correctly, sirrah..?


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Have I written an untruth?

I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce. I ask
for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn. That is justice. I
don't force anyone to trade with me; I only trade for mutual benefit.
Force is the great evil that has no place in a rational world. One may
never force another human to act against his/her judgment. If you deny
a man's right to Reason, you must also deny your right to your own
judgment. Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force,
by men who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear
and force are more practical.

Terry

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:07 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:
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 As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
 mounted the barricade and roared out:

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:

  You can try all the mockery you want, fella. Worx on Fox News too, I
  understand. Maybe you people understand a few things abouyt fyzix -- and
  maybe you don't -- but you know jackshit about politix, that's pretty
  clear.

 Clear?  Clearly I was in error since bots can spell.

 I understand one thing about politics.  It churns.

 Terry

 ad hominem argumentation: the last refuge of a scoundrel.

 Did I spell 'scoundrel' correctly, sirrah..?


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 Have I written an untruth?

Do you understand what ad hominem argumentation means?

 

 I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce. I ask
 for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn. That is justice. I
 don't force anyone to trade with me; I only trade for mutual benefit.
 Force is the great evil that has no place in a rational world. One may
 never force another human to act against his/her judgment. If you deny
 a man's right to Reason, you must also deny your right to your own
 judgment. Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force,
 by men who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear
 and force are more practical.
 
 Terry

In other words you are a petit-bourgeois thru and thru. What a surprise.
Study Marx, fella. He had a lot to say about traders -- free or any
other variety.


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:19 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:

 In other words you are a petit-bourgeois thru and thru. What a surprise.
 Study Marx, fella. He had a lot to say about traders -- free or any
 other variety.

Excellent advice!  One should always study failures in order to avoid
repeating their mistakes.

Warmest regards,

Terry



Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

  Study Marx, fella. He had a lot to say about traders -- free or any
  other variety.
 
 Excellent advice!  One should always study failures in order to avoid
 repeating their mistakes.
 
 Warmest regards,
 
 Terry

Jury's still out there, fella. We'll see who gets the last laff.

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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 OTOH if you look at the site of the email address of
 Grok-the-coward-who-hides-behind-a-pen-name, it seems quite unlikely
 that it's a bot.  (I use the pronoun it as, given its lack of a
 typically gender-identifying name, it would be inappropriate to refer to
 it as him or her.)  It hails from resist.ca, a group of Canadian
 anarchists and socialist.  If you look at their basis of unity at
 resist.ca/basis, there's not much on it which most Vorts would DISagree
 with except the last point, which is the traditional socialist assertion
 that means of production should be nationalized.  Notably, there is
 nothing in the Basis to indicate that members of Resist.ca should act
 like retards and attempt to monkey wrench attempts at investigating
 scientific paths not followed by the Establishment, nor is there
 anything to indicate that sneering at science is a Good Thing.  In
 particular, the tenth point in the Basis,

WTF... did that last part even make sense..? Who's the troll, eh? It's
interesting that when your type can't speak to the matters at hand -- the
turn to ad hominem is the first order. Even to the fishing around looking
for dope to use in the person's life... And in that, I've already
mentioned how much your type resemble the secret police  friends of your
supposed democracy. What a hypocrite.

Drivel indeed. In case people have forgotten, what got this ball
rolling again was a posting on some usual garbage in the bourgeois media
(you really hate even _seeing_ that word bourgeois, don't you?) where
some liberal type thinx he's going to save the Thralled World with some
new go-go gadget. When the real problem is, in fact, *political*.

As it actually is for youse vortexians. Just read your own damned
postings.


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

  Ecology: Humans live in balance with, and are part of, the natural 
  world. A free society recognizes the right to clean water, clean air
  and food free of industrial toxins and genetic engineering.
 
 would seem to indicate that the so-called Grok is 'way off base in
 sneering at attempts at finding novel ways to provide clean water to
 third world countries while simultaneously reducing air pollution.
 
 It would also seem to indicate that the so-called Grok is pursuing its
 own agenda without reference to its alleged principles when it casually
 dismisses attempts at providing basic necessities to people in poorer
 countries by saying What they *REALLY* need is ... [political change],
 with the implication that they don't need, for instance, efficient and
 cheap solar ovens, simply because those ovens don't fit with the
 so-called Grok's political agenda.

Not only are you falsely associating me with whoever you feel like, based
merely on my email address -- you simply make up whatever you want. Not
unlike any Rightwinger. 

And based on simply the above, who should hire you to do honest
science..? You're clearly intellectually dishonest when it suits you.

And then there's the simple pettiness over my orthographic style...
That's just pathetic and venal. Youse cast about looking for excuses to
attack me -- not unlike how U.S. imperialism loox for legal excuses to
overthrow governments and invade sovereign countries.


 

 By interfering with free discussion of scientific principles and
 non-standard approaches to energy production, apparently because the
 venue doesn't happen to include discussion of the so-called Grok's
 political agenda, it would also appear that the so-called Grok is
 acting directly against point 5 of the Basis:

And again: you wilfully miread what I wrote to suit your own political
agenda. But again: par for the course for many who've led self-satisfied
and unexamined lives... Why not try wrapping yourself in the flag, fella?
It's easier. 




  Creativity: A free society values culture, art, and leisure as
  fundamental needs. Every person has the right to their own culture and
  to practice creative expression.
 
 This list is a place where creative expression is practiced, and the
 so-called Grok is working to interfere with that.

And this is an outright lie. I need go no further with you here.
YOUR agenda is pretty clear here.


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[Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-09 Thread OrionWorks
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/09/solar.oven.global.warming/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/cec9km

Regards
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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-09 Thread Terry Blanton
Don't most clear polymers fog over time?  Wouldn't glass be cheaper?
Can it really boil water?

Terry

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:27 PM, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/09/solar.oven.global.warming/index.html
 http://tinyurl.com/cec9km

 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-09 Thread grok
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As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
mounted the barricade and roared out:

 http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/09/solar.oven.global.warming/index.html
 http://tinyurl.com/cec9km

What the people of the World need is electricity -- not dumb-ass charity
from the imperialist north. This here may be an elegantly-simple solution
to some immediate problems, if you want to stretch it -- but as boorishly
and hypocriticaly floated here by CNN, it merely surpasses itself as an
insult to exploited people everywhere. This kind of crap which floats up
periodically in the bourgeois mass-media is on a par with the unsurpassed
philistine caring for the impoverished that rolls around like clockwork
every Xmas out of the suburbs -- and disappears just as quickly after the
Boxing Day sales.

What the people in the Thralled World in fact REALLY need is the imperial
jackboot off their necks. Which they WILL be achieving, anon, BTW. With
or without the support or blessing of the petit-bourgeoisie.

And so if OU is real -- then the masses of the World will be achieving
independence from Imperialism all the more certainly: which would
absolutely explain the imperialists' need for the services of their MiB.


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Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-09 Thread Terry Blanton
Speaking of crap, that's what powers Kamen's Slingshot, created for
the third world:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/16/technology/business2_futureboy0216/index.htm

Terry

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote:
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 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
 mounted the barricade and roared out:

 http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/09/solar.oven.global.warming/index.html
 http://tinyurl.com/cec9km

 What the people of the World need is electricity -- not dumb-ass charity
 from the imperialist north. This here may be an elegantly-simple solution
 to some immediate problems, if you want to stretch it -- but as boorishly
 and hypocriticaly floated here by CNN, it merely surpasses itself as an
 insult to exploited people everywhere. This kind of crap which floats up
 periodically in the bourgeois mass-media is on a par with the unsurpassed
 philistine caring for the impoverished that rolls around like clockwork
 every Xmas out of the suburbs -- and disappears just as quickly after the
 Boxing Day sales.

 What the people in the Thralled World in fact REALLY need is the imperial
 jackboot off their necks. Which they WILL be achieving, anon, BTW. With
 or without the support or blessing of the petit-bourgeoisie.

 And so if OU is real -- then the masses of the World will be achieving
 independence from Imperialism all the more certainly: which would
 absolutely explain the imperialists' need for the services of their MiB.


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