Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines
Ruby posted this in her thread about LENR investing: Cyclone Power Technologies (CYPW:OTC) is a small company which researches and produces engines operating from thermal energy. CYPW is a penny stock listed on OTC:Pink stock exchange, the wild west of the stock world. The stock price is currently at an all time low due to delays in the R+D process. Regardless, they are looking toward LENR technologies, even adding Dr. Kim from Purdue to their consulting board. Dr. Kim is heavily affiliated with Defkalion and even with his academic background he is very entrepreneurial, there is no doubt he will do all he can to combine Dekflaion LENR technology and CYPW's engines. Due to the low volume and price, as well as the highly speculative nature of penny stocks, CYPW is expected to explode during widespread LENR media attention. This is an ideal short term investment. Their steam engine was named Invention of the Year by Popular Mechanics in 2008 and is a remarkably simple machine touting 30% thermal conversion efficiency. Their web site reports that they have engaged the Center for Automotive Research at Ohio State to help get their engine into production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Mark_V_Engine Combine this with a Hyperion heat source and you never have to stop driving . . . except for bathroom breaks. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Someone at the Defkalion brought this up. It looks promising. See: http://www.cyclonepower.com http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=548 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines
Much of this info was posted in a previous thread regarding potential investment opportunities when investing in LENR. My concern is that I could find no details at the cyclone site corroborating that Dr. Kim is working with them in any capacity unless it just had not been updated yet but seeing how it is a penny stock I would not put it past someone to spread false info in an attempt to make a quick buck I have not reached our to cyclone directly to see if they have any comment on this relationship. But maybe someone can confirm that he is. If so I'm probably buying. :) Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com Date:03/06/2014 6:40 PM (GMT-05:00) To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines Ruby posted this in her thread about LENR investing: Cyclone Power Technologies (CYPW:OTC) is a small company which researches and produces engines operating from thermal energy. CYPW is a penny stock listed on OTC:Pink stock exchange, the wild west of the stock world. The stock price is currently at an all time low due to delays in the R+D process. Regardless, they are looking toward LENR technologies, even adding Dr. Kim from Purdue to their consulting board. Dr. Kim is heavily affiliated with Defkalion and even with his academic background he is very entrepreneurial, there is no doubt he will do all he can to combine Dekflaion LENR technology and CYPW's engines. Due to the low volume and price, as well as the highly speculative nature of penny stocks, CYPW is expected to explode during widespread LENR media attention. This is an ideal short term investment. Their steam engine was named Invention of the Year by Popular Mechanics in 2008 and is a remarkably simple machine touting 30% thermal conversion efficiency. Their web site reports that they have engaged the Center for Automotive Research at Ohio State to help get their engine into production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Mark_V_Engine Combine this with a Hyperion heat source and you never have to stop driving . . . except for bathroom breaks. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Someone at the Defkalion brought this up. It looks promising. See: http://www.cyclonepower.com http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=548 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines
OK, here's another approach as food for thought: the expanding CO2 can be channelled through a fluidic amplifier, with side jets drivin piezo crystals at high frequencies. Multiple stage amplifiers can be used to reduce electronic power input demand. Multiple power units tuned out of phase can be used to reduce noise loss. The large cylindrical piezos with large annular cavities used for submarine sonars might work pretty well. Waste heat can be fed back into the system at high COP using ordinary heat pump techniques. On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Robert Lynn wrote: The small gaps needed to make a hydrodynamic bearing using CO2 make the friction much worse. Turbines attached to high speed generators are good because the high rotor surface velocities mean less surface area is needed, making the generator smaller, lighter and cheaper. Unfortunately it just doesn't work for CO2 because of the high density fluid friction. Because of their low velocities linear generators need a lot of magnets and surface area making them very big and expensive. On 2 December 2011 21:09, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: This is an interesting problem. At thin film tolerances liquids or even compressed air act like a lubricant. It may be worthwhile to consider conical thin film CO2 bearings. The surface of an armature can be made smooth and cylindrical or nearly cylindrical but slightly conical, if necessary using a thin steel enclosure. The armature could of course be a continuation of the turbine shaft. The stators could be located outside the shaft. The high pressure CO2 could be directed in part to the bearings, thus allowing the high pressure side to act as the equivalent of an oil pump for an internal combustion engine. The armature in such a configuration need not contain permanent magnets or coils. The stator coils and cores cold be located outside the pressure envelope. The armature could consist of the equivalent of one or more U shaped magnetic flux conductors, making and breaking the magnetic circuit with rotation. For very small units a turbine could be avoided entirely, by using a free sliding linear motion armature, driven in a manner similar to old steam engine pistons. The armature would simply make or break one or two external magnetic circuits to generate power. It would oscillate back and forth like a frictionless air hockey puck. A very small LENR unit could be used to charge an EV battery 24 hours a day. All just food for thought. On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Robert Lynn wrote: Having looked into this in detail recently (I was thing the same thing) the frictional losses on the surface of the generator rotor are just too high compared to the magnetic fields that exist in the rotor air gap and you end up wasting all of your efficiency gains on CO2 friction on the rotor. It is like trying to run the rotor at high speed while it is surrounded by water. On 2 December 2011 12:56, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: Thanks to Jouni for a great reference! I don't see any reason CO2 turbomachinery in application with LENR could not be sealed in a high pressure envelope involving no moving seals. The transactions are heat in and out and electricity out. The generator would have to be brushless, but that is no problem. On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Robert Lynn wrote: CO2 turbomachinery is not scalable to less than perhaps a few hundred kW due to the extremely high density of CO2 (100's of times air density), and very expensive seals. In a distributed generation LENR world it will have pretty limited applications; maybe aircraft, trucks, trains and ships, but with Gas turbines so simple (no radiators required) and heat so cheap I don't think you would bother with CO2. On 2 December 2011 00:17, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com wrote: Quote: The Brayton cycle could yield 20 megawatts of electricity from a package with a volume as small as four cubic meters. Wow 1.6 x 1.6 x 1.6 mtrs for 20 Ac MWs at 46% thermal to electrical energy conversion! Another total game changer. The good news just keeps on happening. So much for 2012 being the end of the world. Baby it is just starting to come together. We are on steroids and moving at light speed into a new era of thermal and electrical energy production. Jouni thanks for that amazing link. You made my day. AG On 12/2/2011 10:22 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: I am a great fan of this Cyclone engine. There is also similar emergencing technology that uses super critical carbondioxide instead of super critical water. The main benefit of going into super critical is that the efficiency can go up to 46% for heat engine. And also with carbon dioxide temperatures can be as low as 250-300 °C. *Supercritical Carbon Dioxide Brayton Cycle Turbines Promise Giant Leap in Power Generation*
Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines
That burns (various) fuel ... making 1200F steam in the coils. No good for ecats/Hypes. - Original Message - http://www.cyclonepower.com
Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines
On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Someone at the Defkalion brought this up. It looks promising. See: http://www.cyclonepower.com http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=548 - Jed Sterling engines have much promise. Perhaps now that the cost of photovoltaic is less than solar thermal, the sterling engine manfactuing capacity aimed for that market can be channeled toward other applications. See: http://www.stirlingengine.com/ Here is a most interesting quote: Our new Traveling Wave Stirling engine has only one piston and no displacer. Frankly we aren't sure why it works. It's new, it's exciting, and there is no obvious reason (even to us) why it works. The main cylinder is made from quartz glass so you can see everything that's inside. http://www.stirlingengine.com/product/94 With only one piston, we aren't really sure why this works. It's amazing! Our Price: $2977.00 Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines
On Dec 1, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Someone at the Defkalion brought this up. It looks promising. See: http://www.cyclonepower.com http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=548 - Jed Infinia has a nice small unit for home use: http://www.infiniacorp.com/micro-chp.html These systems use about 95 percent of the energy contained in the natural gas, or other fuel, dramatically reducing the need for grid electricity, which is delivered at an average efficiency of about 30 percent. They use much higher temperatures though. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
