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ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven’t had as many laughs in months. Say g’night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi – Birds of a feather, as they say … they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! _ From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG
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Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net ** ** ROFL ** ** This must be the Comedy Channel ! ** ** I haven’t had as many laughs in months. ** ** Say g’night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. ** ** Watson and Rossi – Birds of a feather, as they say … they deserve each other. ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Eff Wivakeef ** ** Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! ** ** -- *From:* Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Magnetic_Overunity_Toy He stole money from many Vorts by promising a closed loop SMOT. T
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Stole? Don't you mean being scammed? 2012/1/19 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Magnetic_Overunity_Toy He stole money from many Vorts by promising a closed loop SMOT. T -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com attachment: winmail.dat
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But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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MAIL FRAUD plain and simple AND he is an American citizen feel free to call the CIA! Oh, did I mention this one? The lawsuit is for purchasers of the common stock of Emcore Corporation (NASDAQ: EMKR) between June 12, 2007 and June 30, 2008. The lawsuit alleges that the Company made false and misleading statements throughout the class period in violation of federal securities laws by publishing statements that its main customer, Green and Gold Energy (GGE), was a viable company that could afford to purchase the product it had backordered from Emcore. In fact, the lawsuit alleges, Emcore knew that Green and Gold Energy would not be able to pay for its backlogged orders because, among other things, Emcore knew that: (1) the CEO of GGE formerly promoted a failed venture to produce a perpetual motion machine (a machine that modern science has proven cannot be made, and for which investors reportedly lost all their money), (2) GGE did not even have a plant to build the machine in which it was going to use the product it ordered from Emcore, (3) the prototype of GGE's machine in which it would use Emcore's product was not functional, and (4) the company GGE touted as it exclusive distributor (Zolar Distributors) was a sham company with no physical address created by GGE itself. Moreover, the lawsuit alleges that Emcore's insiders traded on the information that they concealed from the investing public, making big profits on unscheduled and unusual trades that they made ahead of the precipitous fall in the Company's share price. On March 18, 2008, reports that GGE was not a viable company started to surface. On the basis of these reports, and Emcore's rebuttal to the reports, made the same day, which failed to address the specific allegations against GGE, the price of Emcore's shares dropped precipitously, falling more that 23% from the previous day's trading, on heavy volume. The Law Offices of Howard G. Smith seeks to recover damages on behalf of class members. If you purchased common stock in Emcore Corporation (NASDAQ: EMKR) between June 12, 2007 and June 30, 2008 you may join the lawsuit by submitting your information online, or you may call the Law Offices of Howard G. Smith and speak to Mr. Smith directly to learn how he can protect your rights. WAKE UP GREGGY We'd like to have a chat with you!!
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I think that he actually believed that SMOT worked at first. He took a long time to set up that scam, and the same could be true of the latest one. No one that I know gave him a second glance with the solar device, due to the prior fiasco - so he found a different audience to prey on for that one. He was probably angling to get any kind of verbal agreement with AR that did not involve his money - after which he would resells sub-license - who knows ? Thanks to Eff - the guy is toast now. (assuming Eff is correct, of course) did anyone try to cross-check ip addresses? From: Daniel But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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I had to take the bastard to the Supreme Court of NSW to clear my name after he called ME a criminal, liar, immoral etc. The PHUCKER has still not paid up and I am out of pocket by over 50K. Let's see how he enjoys being made bankrupt. No more first class flights for you Greggy! First class taster Registered Users have the option of removing this and all other advertisements. More Doing a F taster run. Flying out Adl/Syd DJ Y, Syd/Bkk QF 744/F, Bkk/Hkg Thai 744/F, Hkg/Bkk CX 744/F, Bkk/Hkg/Sin Emirates 388/F and United 744/F, Sin/Syd QF 388/F and back to Adl on QF Y So will get to experience F on: QF 744 Thai 744 CX 744 United 744 Emirates 388 QF 388 Should be interesting. Will do a TR with photos. Gowatson
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Re: First class taster The Thai F Check-in and Lounge at Bkk is amazing. This is really First Class in an Old World sense. The 3 Ss, Service, Service, Service in Spades. Just after entering the airport, you see the Thai F Check-in portals which after that reality departs. The minute I walked through the portal I was asked for my passport and flight data. Another person then took my wheelie. I was then escorted to a waiting area and served a drink and / or snack. I was also asked what type of massage I desired and at what time. By the time that discussion was completed, my boarding pass and passport was returned. After finishing my welcome drink and snack, I was escorted to a totally 100% F dedicated security line and immigrations, escorted by my aide through the whole process. When that process was completed, I was driven, yes I did say driven, to the Thai F Lounge and then shown to my personal 5 x 5 mtr very nicely furnished apartment. Shortly thereafter by wheelie arrived. Then a small lunch while I waited to be called for my massage. The Thai F Lounge is about the same size as the Mel QF F Lounge but I feel elevated about 2 levels in service and style. I could get very addicted to this airline. Oh BTW, the wireless internet is VERY quick. After my 1 hour full body Thai massage, lunch will be the Mussaman Curry with Beef or Chicken. Think I'll go with the chicken. They claim this dish is the top ranking of the world's 50 most delicious foods according toTravel Asia with CNNGo.com - The Insider's Guide to Traveling in Asia More laterGowatson (Gregory Oran Watson) asshole First class!
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Well, well, well Instead of Greggy-boy getting some sleep at 4 am in Oz, the guy is probably packing up his suitcase for a backdoor run to ... well, Phucket is a good destination for Phuckers, no g http://www.phuket.com/island/10mustsee.htm Hey Eff - If you put a tail on him, be sure to hire the inimitable Royal Thai Police detective Sonchai Jitpleecheep. He knows what to do with snakes for instance... From: Eff Wivakeef I had to take the bastard to the Supreme Court of NSW to clear my name after he called ME a criminal, liar, immoral etc. The PHUCKER has still not paid up and I am out of pocket by over 50K. Let's see how he enjoys being made bankrupt. No more first class flights for you Greggy! attachment: winmail.dat
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On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:26 -0200, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. With the SMOT scam, Greg Watson came here and simply started to make claims that he was able to get a ball moving indefinitely around a track using magnets. He never offered to sell anything until people started asking to buy demonstration units from him. In fact, the SMOT was never originally going to be sold as a kit that would work, only as a kit that people could use to test his claims. It was Greg who changed the terms and started saying that he was going make the kits work for those who had already paid. But what he was doing then, was just stalling so that more orders come come in. All around he made about $4,000 US on the scam, as I recall. Craig
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Hey Eff - If you put a tail on him, be sure to hire the inimitable Royal Thai Police detective Sonchai Jitpleecheep. He knows what to do with snakes for instance... Yes, GOW deserves the same fate as Frank Charles in the Godfather of Kathmandu. T
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I am pretty new to this list. Today, this one guy comes along and says Aussie Guy, who two weeks ago was almost certainly Dick Smith (who I didn't know) now is certainly Greg Watson (who I didn't know). Apparently some of you had bad experiences with that guy in the past. So now this is accepted as a fact? I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Andre On 01/19/2012 01:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mailto:jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote: I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Is there some evidence about AG's being Greg Watson?
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Well, I am also new to this list. Been here for about 1 year. AG always was one of the well behaved and gave a lot of useful contribution and is even trying to test the damned e cat. . People accusing AG of anything today seem to be really crazy and wrong. 2012/1/19 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl I am pretty new to this list. Today, this one guy comes along and says Aussie Guy, who two weeks ago was almost certainly Dick Smith (who I didn't know) now is certainly Greg Watson (who I didn't know). Apparently some of you had bad experiences with that guy in the past. So now this is accepted as a fact? I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Andre On 01/19/2012 01:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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whoa whoa whoa (as yosemite sam) Hold on guys. You're both wrong ! I know for sure who's AG! He's the Andrea Rossi's plumbers !
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What if AG is Greg Watson? Most of the posts to this list in regard to Rossi are dream-stuff anyway. Why ask for reality at this point? AG's stuff is entertaining; that should be enough for anybody here. If AG is accused of being Watson, he may stop posting and make this a poorer place.
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After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would concede that everything I've found is circumstantial, and that a string titled, Goodbye Greg was probably premature. Further, if they are indeed the same person, would that preclude acceptance on Vortex? I understand that some Vortexians may deserve an apology and restitution, but I think that his posts have been valuable, albeit some have been too quick to jump to conclusions. Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:35:52 -0500 From: vorl@antichef.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg What if AG is Greg Watson? Most of the posts to this list in regard to Rossi are dream-stuff anyway. Why ask for reality at this point? AG's stuff is entertaining; that should be enough for anybody here. If AG is accused of being Watson, he may stop posting and make this a poorer place.
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You want PROOF that it is Greg Watson? Give me a bit a little while and I will collate the evidence. Meanwhile you can ask the admin to check his ISP I guarantee you that it is Greg Watson from Adelaide. Come on Aussie Guy, wake up and tell us all about it.
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would concede that everything I've found is circumstantial, and that a string titled, Goodbye Greg was probably premature. Further, if they are indeed the same person, would that preclude acceptance on Vortex? I understand that some Vortexians may deserve an apology and restitution, but I think that his posts have been valuable, albeit some have been too quick to jump to conclusions. For those of us who came lately, can you summarize the evidence that this is the same person who apparently defrauded people by taking money for SMOT kits?
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No Mary, go read the barrage of postings to catch up. after all, that is what you expect us to do with your barrage of repetitious postings! Frankly, your recent lack of postings has been a much welcome reprieve. -mark From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:46 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would concede that everything I've found is circumstantial, and that a string titled, Goodbye Greg was probably premature. Further, if they are indeed the same person, would that preclude acceptance on Vortex? I understand that some Vortexians may deserve an apology and restitution, but I think that his posts have been valuable, albeit some have been too quick to jump to conclusions. For those of us who came lately, can you summarize the evidence that this is the same person who apparently defrauded people by taking money for SMOT kits?
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Thank you! I am seldom wrong, and I know all there is to know about Greggy!
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Look at AG's posts regarding solar: Following best practice in the CSP (Concentrating Solar Power) industry, where every watt is important and the heat is lower than what can be generated in a conventional thermal plant's boiler, we will be building a 1 MW E-Cat plant based on this system. We are working with Rossi to make this happen and hope to sign a contract soon. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/FMrXOWzV58Trn23wh8_zDNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink Your comments are most welcome as we work to deliver the lowest cost Ac kWs we can. As I have said, when I can disclose information I will. Making this happen is critically important to everyone. AG Then look at Greg Watson's relationship with SunCube: You now have two Aussies that are knowledgable in concentrating solar power. Purely coincidence, right? So, move onto the business paradigms. Look at the Paradigm of Watson's Green and Gold Energy of Australia: He is adding on to another company's core product adding lenses to someone else's solar cells. This is much the same as taking Rossi's core, and adding the electric power generation. The way that they immediately make conclusive posts regarding the confidence in market production of products that are yet to be integrated is quite telling. I then looked into the technical posts made by each, and the arguments and formats are VERY similar, in their calculation of LCOE, RCE, ROI, etc. The way that they present technical arguments are very similar. I'm not in any way saying that I've found any conclusive evidence, only a fairly high confidence after less than 1/2 hour of searching. The gotcha from Keef was surprising, and I thought I'd have a look for myself. I think it's likely that AG and Watson are the same person. It certainly changes the way that I will read his comments, but I'm not sure that it would be any reason to ask him to leave the forum. From: zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:02:07 -0800 No Mary, go read the barrage of postings to catch up… after all, that is what you expect us to do with your barrage of repetitious postings! Frankly, your recent lack of postings has been a much welcome reprieve… -mark From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:46 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: After a bit of digging around the web, looking for commonality in the posts of the two personas, it certainly seems likely that AG is Greg Watson. I would concede that everything I've found is circumstantial, and that a string titled, Goodbye Greg was probably premature. Further, if they are indeed the same person, would that preclude acceptance on Vortex? I understand that some Vortexians may deserve an apology and restitution, but I think that his posts have been valuable, albeit some have been too quick to jump to conclusions. For those of us who came lately, can you summarize the evidence that this is the same person who apparently defrauded people by taking money for SMOT kits?
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Yes there is little doubt. Here is the funny part. Five years ago, Greg/AG posted: 1) Initial 1,000 SunCube per month manual assembly line - in progress now 2) 5,000 SunCube per month manual assembly line - to be operational mid 2007 3) 50,000 SunCube per month robotic assembly line - to be operational end 2007 4) Many more of the 50,000 robotic lines - as required by the market ... hmmm... does that sound vaguely familiar? Who's zooming who? From: Robert Leguillon I'm not in any way saying that I've found any conclusive evidence, only a fairly high confidence after less than 1/2 hour of searching. The gotcha from Keef was surprising, and I thought I'd have a look for myself. I think it's likely that AG and Watson are the same person. It certainly changes the way that I will read his comments, but I'm not sure that it would be any reason to ask him to leave the forum. attachment: winmail.dat
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In doing further online checking of forum posts - it looks like Keefwivanef has been dogging Greg for some time. Does he have the facts, or not? Re: SunCube test array for the DKA Solar Centre Post by Keefwivanef 14 Mar, 2011 Hey Greggy.what happened to the SA Government trial? Green and Gold Energy receives a AU$450,000 order from the South Australia government to supply, build, commission and operate 3 grid connected SunCubeT Energy Farms. Therefore, I would like to ask Eff or Keff - what did happen in this trial? Did Green and Gold Energy pass or fail ?
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How do I know it's Greggy Let me count the ways! (just for starters) GGE History * 2000 – 2004 Energy consultant to the power industry on advanced metering and demand side management. * Developed various real metering and load remote load control systems. * 2005 – Invented the SunBall and won the Australian Peoples Choice Invention of the Year award. * Formed GGE with AU$250k of my own capital. * Developed the SunBall Mark 1 and Mark 2. * 2006 - Evolved the SunBall Mark 2 to the SunCube Mark 3. * Raised a further AU$250k, thanks to long time friend Michael Sullivan to commercialize the SunCube. * MICHAEL IANNELLA A VERY TALENTED METAL FABRICATION ENGINEER, joined the GGE development team to guide the SunCube development. * Developed the SunCube Mark 4. * 2007 - Developed the SunCube Mark 5 6. * 2008 - Developed the SunCube Mark 7.5 to commercial ready stage. * Worked with Emcore to achieve the world's first CPV receiver warranty. Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company! Aussie Guy E-Cat Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:27:19 -0800 I have a trusted friend, a very experienced metal fabrication engineer, who has built BIG boilers, who is Italian but Aussie born. He will probably come along as he speaks the lingo and can arrange the 100 kW test with the local engineering firm, if their English is not that good. Additionally he is an extra pair of eyes, ears and hands. Plus I owe him a few favors. AG Need I go on? Oh well... Here we go with the old COAL FACE again! Re: [Vo]:Focardi 1998 cell replication Aussie Guy E-Cat Tue, 08 Nov 2011 04:22:14 -0800 I do like the idea of the Ni tube and putting the heater element inside for all the reasons you listed. This could result in a very simple to make cell as thermal heat, H2 and vacuum only needs to be applied to the inside of the tube. Using a stainless tube with Ni electroplated and electropolished on the inside could result in a nice compact design with little external corrosion potential. Maybe fit a collar type finned heat around the outside of the tube(http://www.aavidthermalloy.com/products/standard/320105b0g sort of like this but longer) to make thermal transfer to passing fluid very efficient. Also make the heat sink streamlined and optimised for fluid. I like it. Maybe call it the Vortex cell?Why did they design the Piantelli cell the way they did? Maybe because they are not experienced engineers with grease under their fingernails and a lot of time at the Coal Face where necessity is the mother of invention??As for the other replicators, may I suggest they did not have Vortex to call upon? Re: Shell says Solar is not economic21-Mar-09 04:11 am Hi Dave, Keith, you and others are very wrong. Full stop. I have refuted every claim Keith, you, others and his mates at Citron have made. I never blocked you on the SunBall forum so stop telling porkies. That you lack the in depth technical understanding of CPV is accepted. It is not your field of expertise. I have not asked you or anybody to take my word on the SunCube. Visit GGE and test them for yourself before you buy. As for proving anything, that I do to our customers. You want to become one? BTW our claims are based on 3 years of field trials as we evolved the design through 9 stages. Working at the COAL FACE stuff mate, not a lot of theory, just real world results. So sorry Dave but you, Keith and others backed the wrong horse. CPV will kick serious PV butt. You, Keith and other can't stop it happening no matter how you to try to spin it. All the best, Green and Gold Energy Pty., Ltd Greg Watson, CEO 7 Provident Avenue, Glynde, 5070 South Australia, Australia, +61 8 8365 5844 http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 7:49 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg Yes there is little doubt. Here is the funny part. Five years ago, Greg/AG posted: 1) Initial 1,000 SunCube per month manual assembly line - in progress now 2) 5,000 SunCube per month manual assembly line - to be operational mid 2007 3) 50,000 SunCube per month robotic assembly line - to be operational end 2007 4) Many more of the 50,000 robotic lines - as required by the market ... hmmm... does that sound vaguely familiar? Who's zooming who? From: Robert Leguillon I'm not in any way saying that I've found any conclusive evidence, only a fairly high confidence after less than 1/2 hour of searching. The gotcha from Keef was surprising, and I thought I'd have a look for myself. I think it's likely that AG and Watson are the same person. It certainly changes the way that I will read his comments, but I'm not sure that it would be any reason to ask him to leave the forum.
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Apparently the ground was contaminated! Re: SunCube test array for the DKA Solar Centre by Keefwivanef » Mon 14 Mar, 2011 11:43 am Hey Greggy.what happened to the SA Government trial? Green and Gold Energy receives a AU$450,000 order from the South Australia government to supply, build, commission and operate 3 grid connected SunCube™ Energy Farms. Reference # PIRSA865 Name of Public AuthorityPrimary Industries and Resources SA Title 100 Suncube Grid Trial Good or Services AcquiredFacilitation to SME to jointly trial concentrating photovoltaic technology on the electricity grid. Procurement Process Waive of competitive process Total inc GST $429,000 Execution Date 30 Aug, 2008 Starting Date 30 Aug, 2008 Completion Date 1 Jul, 2010 Freedom of Information Officer Kim Potoczky PhoneOFFICE: (08) 8463 3340 MOBILE: 0401714882 OFFICE: (08) 82260053 E-Mail kim.potoc...@sa.gov.au Contract Documents Contract - 100 Suncube Grid Trial.pdf Hi C*P. That trial is not public and I can't comment on it except to say the original sites soil was found to be contaminated and work could not proceed. We have found another site and work is moving forward. As far as we are aware, the DKA Solar Centre's monitoring facilities and the ability to compare many systems against each other, historically and in real time, has no equal anywhere in the world. DKA Solar Centre staff have done a excellent job. We look forward to being able to show the world, in real time, what good Aussie solar technology can do. Our pricing is now available on the GGE web site. As far as we know, this is the first time any CPV company has openly displayed CPV module pricing. - Best regards, Greg Watson, Mng Dir, Green and Gold Energy Pty Ltd Adelaide, South Australia, Australia Phone: +61 881 214 379 Mobile: +61 408 843 089 Skype: gowatson Web: www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au
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* Therefore, I would like to ask Eff or Keff - what did happen in this trial? * Did Green and Gold Energy pass or fail ? Well, I mean the solar trial not the court trial - since I have not found an answer for that one. One thing that does turn up is Keith's (aka Eff) court judgment against Watson for online stalking and defamation, which apparently has gone uncollected. http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action/PJUDG?jgmtid=154368 I suppose this posting of the verdict can stand as a warning to AG, should he decide to reappear with all guns blazing: once bitten, twice shy . If you really have a bona fide technology, whether your name is Watson or Rossi, should you really stalk an online poster? Would you not be better off to publish test results? Heck, Rossi's reference to Krivit as a snake is bad enough to get him in a bit of financial trouble - especially if he does become the billionaire that he thinks he will be. He should be glad that Steve is a pretty mellow guy . Jones
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Greg got paid $450,000 for the trial. It has still not even been STARTED much less concluded. Despite complaints to the SA Auditor General and various politicians, he continues to get clean away with it. ASIC, Police Dept, Fair Trading, ACCC, all say it is not their department, try somewhere else. I don't give up so easy! We refer to your instructions in the above matter. Please note that service of the Bankruptcy Notice and Judgment/Order addressed to Gregory Oran WATSON has not yet been effected. On 17/10/11 at 6:05 pm our agent attended the given address of 16 Gembrook Road, ATHELSTONE SA 5076 where he found the property to be a single storey, detached, rendered dwelling, with a tiled roof, average kept grounds with an attached garage and driveway to the right hand side. Our agent advise that no person could be summoned to the door although our agent was convinced some person was home. On 18/10/11 at 08.05 am our agent re-attended the given address and again could not obtain a response to the door. However a dog was loose inside the house on both occasions, no vehicles were on the driveway but a Holden Station Wagon and a Mitsubishi Sedan were parked directly out in front of the property. Our agent left a message, requesting the subject to make contact. Our agent will persist and a further report will be forthcoming. Yours faithfully, Chopper Read and Associates Sensitive New Age DEbt Collectors and Tow Truck Drivers From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 8:39 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg Ø Therefore, I would like to ask Eff or Keff – what did happen in this trial? Ø Did Green and Gold Energy pass or fail ? Well, I mean the solar trial not the court trial – since I have not found an answer for that one. One thing that does turn up is Keith’s (aka Eff) court judgment against Watson for online stalking and defamation, which apparently has gone uncollected. http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action/PJUDG?jgmtid=154368 I suppose this posting of the verdict can stand as a warning to AG, should he decide to reappear with all guns blazing: “once bitten, twice shy” … If you really have a bona fide technology, whether your name is Watson or Rossi, should you really stalk an online poster? Would you not be better off to publish test results? Heck, Rossi’s reference to Krivit as a “snake” is bad enough to get him in a bit of financial trouble – especially if he does become the billionaire that he thinks he will be. He should be glad that Steve is a pretty mellow guy … Jones
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SMOT the lot of you Reecho writes... Now to this press release of yours http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/Documents/GGEPressRelease20080326a.pdf What happened to this $450,000.00 order...?? A bit of poetic license to call this an order...especially when it is actually a Government Grant http://www.tenders.sa.gov.au/tenders/contract/download.do?id=4711§ion=contract User #416366 391 posts GreenandGoldEnergy Forum Regular arri writes... Maybe it went into the perpetual motion machine referred to here in stanford doc above Suggest you check you dates. The SMOT was invented around 1995. The SunBall won the ABC New Inventors Peoples Choice Award in Oct 2005. The SunCube Mark 9.2 design was locked down in Jan 2008. So unless I have a time machine, your claim about what happened to the money is not possible. The reality is GGE spend what we have received so far and more on the project. Oh BTW here is the 113% OU verification trial a French physics professor and his team did on my SMOT design in 1999. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotnrgt.htm The SMOT plans are freely and openly available on the internet. Many 1,000's of people all around the world have made SMOTs. If you doubt the results, I suggest you build one. I suggest you shove it up your fundament Greggy!
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From: Eff Wivakeef * Please note that service of the Bankruptcy Notice and Judgment/Order addressed to Gregory Oran WATSON has not yet been effected. OK, this is your attempt to collect on the legal judgment against Watson, correct? What about the “Green and Gold” company- Did you try to collect against them, or does he operate the business out of the house where no one answers the door? Maybe they are used to dodging paper servers, who knows? I guess his fabled “Board” that he often refers to in postings - includes the dog. Was it by any chance a Golden Retriever named “Einstein”?
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The dog probably ate his thumb-drive… Bad Einstein! Bad! From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg From: Eff Wivakeef Ø Please note that service of the Bankruptcy Notice and Judgment/Order addressed to Gregory Oran WATSON has not yet been effected. OK, this is your attempt to collect on the legal judgment against Watson, correct? What about the “Green and Gold” company- Did you try to collect against them, or does he operate the business out of the house where no one answers the door? Maybe they are used to dodging paper servers, who knows? I guess his fabled “Board” that he often refers to in postings - includes the dog. Was it by any chance a Golden Retriever named “Einstein”?
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Vorl I agree AG been far more a plus then a minus Its good to have the skeptics , keeps us from floating away with the wind But if everyone was like that , the suicide rate would be higher We need the balance of positive belivers to even out the mean hearted injection Its quite an easy thing to do Bad mouth people and Pull them down Its much harder to encourage people and build them up Peter B Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:35:52 -0500 From: vorl@antichef.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg What if AG is Greg Watson? Most of the posts to this list in regard to Rossi are dream-stuff anyway. Why ask for reality at this point? AG's stuff is entertaining; that should be enough for anybody here. If AG is accused of being Watson, he may stop posting and make this a poorer place.
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Daniel In Australia , we call it the Tall Poppy Syndrome Where if they seem to be doing better than the average ocker (Australian slang for a person) rises a bit above his fellow man , there is a certain % of us , who like to pull him down Amongst mates , its quite common and probably usefull , stops you from getting helium in your head and floating away But from strangers , its normally meant as disrespect and a form of jealousy , if we can belittle him and trash him , we can feel better about ourselves Some call it childish , I call it Mean Spirited (though I have to confess , Ive been guilty of it once or twice myself) Peter B Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:26:44 -0200 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg From: danieldi...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Well, I am also new to this list. Been here for about 1 year. AG always was one of the well behaved and gave a lot of useful contribution and is even trying to test the damned e cat. . People accusing AG of anything today seem to be really crazy and wrong. 2012/1/19 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl I am pretty new to this list. Today, this one guy comes along and says Aussie Guy, who two weeks ago was almost certainly Dick Smith (who I didn't know) now is certainly Greg Watson (who I didn't know). Apparently some of you had bad experiences with that guy in the past. So now this is accepted as a fact? I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Andre On 01/19/2012 01:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - rjdanieldi...@gmail.com
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Agreed Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:19:04 -0400 From: andre_vor...@blums.nl To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg I am pretty new to this list. Today, this one guy comes along and says Aussie Guy, who two weeks ago was almost certainly Dick Smith (who I didn't know) now is certainly Greg Watson (who I didn't know). Apparently some of you had bad experiences with that guy in the past. So now this is accepted as a fact? I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Andre On 01/19/2012 01:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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I saw some good post from him. Can anyone place some pointers to (possibly) bad stuff? I mean, under tha name and email address of Aussie Guy. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am also new to this list. Been here for about 1 year. AG always was one of the well behaved and gave a lot of useful contribution and is even trying to test the damned e cat. . People accusing AG of anything today seem to be really crazy and wrong. 2012/1/19 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl I am pretty new to this list. Today, this one guy comes along and says Aussie Guy, who two weeks ago was almost certainly Dick Smith (who I didn't know) now is certainly Greg Watson (who I didn't know). Apparently some of you had bad experiences with that guy in the past. So now this is accepted as a fact? I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Andre On 01/19/2012 01:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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The guy scammed thousands of dollars from people just like you who wanted to make a difference in the World's oil-lust and misguided energy policy. That is not just wrong - it is criminal. No one can condone that kind of conduct. I do not know the details of the solar thing, but if it too was a scam and took way money from real solar projects, then it too is intolerable. Perhaps Keith, who has been dogging Greg for years, it appears, will fill us in on the solar thing. But if it too was a scam (and I simply do not know) then it is just a matter of time before another one was built, using the lure of the Rossi device as the come-on. It seems Greg already had some pretty good prospects lined up, and that is exactly why he was on good behavior. It is part of the act. Jones -Original Message- From: Bastiaan Bergman I saw some good post from him. Can anyone place some pointers to (possibly) bad stuff? I mean, under tha name and email address of Aussie Guy. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am also new to this list. Been here for about 1 year. AG always was one of the well behaved and gave a lot of useful contribution and is even trying to test the damned e cat. . People accusing AG of anything today seem to be really crazy and wrong. 2012/1/19 Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl I am pretty new to this list. Today, this one guy comes along and says Aussie Guy, who two weeks ago was almost certainly Dick Smith (who I didn't know) now is certainly Greg Watson (who I didn't know). Apparently some of you had bad experiences with that guy in the past. So now this is accepted as a fact? I must say that AG made a more than useful contribution to the discussons here. I liked him a lot! What if he isn't Greg Watson like he isn't Dick Smith? Andre On 01/19/2012 01:26 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to test an ecat. 2012/1/19 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Daniel, Greg is a con-man deluxe who has preyed on alternative energy supporters for many years. He is the Aussie version of Dennis Lee. (if you know that name). If Aussie Guy really is Greg Watson, then I am blown away at the arrogance of this a__hole to come back on this forum, in particular. He should have been charged with criminal fraud over the SMOT fiasco. Not that it didn't work, which it didn't, but that he kept deposits and never shipped products. And now it looks like SunCube could be an even bigger scam. Hey - Vo - let's welcome Greg back tomorrow with a listing of his many lies ... maybe his Board will give him the butt-kicking he deserves, if not turn him over for prosecution. Chill out Greg, you may be on ice for a while. From: Daniel Rocha Who is this Greg Watson? I found a bunch of guys with this name on google. ROFL This must be the Comedy Channel ! I haven't had as many laughs in months. Say g'night to Greg, vorticians - we will likely not hear from this turkey again. Watson and Rossi - Birds of a feather, as they say ... they deserve each other. From: Eff Wivakeef Greg Watson aka Aussie Guy It is time for you to stop pulling your pudding! From: Aussie Guy E-Cat Steven, It is almost 4am here. Time for me to chill out and get some sleep. AG -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
