Re: [Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
Complex numbers may be able to reconcile the empirical observation that the observed value for the speed of light i s constant with the classical intuition that the speed of light is variable. If the speed of light c is always constant from an observational standpoint and if the real component is identified with c the n the imaginary part will remain superfluous . One way to ensure the imaginary component cannot be ignored is to associate the observed constant value c with the magnitude of the complex value. Since the convention in mathematics is to use z to represent a complex number I will rewrite what I wrote as: z = a + ib, |z| = sqrt( a^2 + b^2) = c However, your question made me realize that another way to insure the imaginary component cannot be dismissed is to multiply c by the imaginary number i and have that become the imaginary component and let the real part vary from zero to infinity: z = a + ib,if c = b then z = a + ic, andc = (z - a)/i Harry On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:40 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Why would the act of measurement take the absolute value rather than, say, the real component of the complex value? On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:44 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If the speed light in a vacuum c had a real and an imaginary components too, then the components could vary with motion but the measured value would appear constant and correspond to the magnitude |c|. c = a + ib , |c| = sqrt( a^2 + b^2) = constant Harry On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
Re: [Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
Why would the act of measurement take the absolute value rather than, say, the real component of the complex value? On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:44 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If the speed light in a vacuum c had a real and an imaginary components too, then the components could vary with motion but the measured value would appear constant and correspond to the magnitude |c|. c = a + ib , |c| = sqrt( a^2 + b^2) = constant Harry On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
Re: [Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
If the speed light in a vacuum c had a real and an imaginary components too, then the components could vary with motion but the measured value would appear constant and correspond to the magnitude |c|. c = a + ib , |c| = sqrt( a^2 + b^2) = constant Harry On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
[Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
Re: [Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
Right James. I think his work is very interesting. I'm interested to know when someone finally digs into it w/ some technical background and can see what is good, and what is bad, about it. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
Re: [Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
From a colleague: I can't help but think this is backwards, and is the more offensive departure, not from orthodoxy (which always deserves to be challenged) but from simplicity (Occam) and common sense. Still, he's not far off the track because of the close connection between the speed of light and the ultimate discrete motion -- the imaginary logic value or oscillation, which is a simple case of complex. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: Right James. I think his work is very interesting. I'm interested to know when someone finally digs into it w/ some technical background and can see what is good, and what is bad, about it. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
Re: [Vo]:Konstantin Meyl's Potential Vortex Departure
Interesting, thanks for sharing. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:46 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: From a colleague: I can't help but think this is backwards, and is the more offensive departure, not from orthodoxy (which always deserves to be challenged) but from simplicity (Occam) and common sense. Still, he's not far off the track because of the close connection between the speed of light and the ultimate discrete motion -- the imaginary logic value or oscillation, which is a simple case of complex. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: Right James. I think his work is very interesting. I'm interested to know when someone finally digs into it w/ some technical background and can see what is good, and what is bad, about it. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: A particularly intriguing notion of Konstantin Meyl's is that a complex speed of light is derivable from the conventional interpretation of the dielectric coefficient, rendering that conventional interpretation an offense against the basic principles of physics: http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliteratur/2P9_0930-1-piers-extended_field_theory.pdf This seems to be his point of departure into fringe physics his replacement of the vector potential with his derivation of the potential vortex.
