Re: [Vo]:Plea for math/statistics expertise from RonPaulForums.com

2012-03-17 Thread Alain Sepeda
ok, I make a mistake.
there is a law that any set of physical value (unbounded), will have the
most significant digit respect a log law.

this case seems different.

and also i should have guessed that vote don't respect that law, since it
is bounded.
however correlations, or indirect values, should respect that law

2012/3/17 Bastiaan Bergman 

> LEAST significant digit.
> On Mar 16, 2012 2:48 AM, "Xavier Luminous" 
> wrote:
>
>> Off the top of my head I'd like to mention that Benford's Law is
>> particularly good at rooting out cheaters.  Basically, the most
>> significant digit from a sets of naturally occurring data tends to
>> follow a well known power law distribution.  This is true for things
>> like lengths of rivers, street addresses, amounts entered on your
>> taxes, etc.
>>
>> I know they use this in voting already, but I'm not sure exactly how.
>> Would be interesting to see how this works out in this particular
>> case.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:03 AM, James Bowery  wrote:
>> > The reason I'm posting this to vortex-l is that of all the candidates,
>> the
>> > only one that represents a serious threat to establishment science is
>> Ron
>> > Paul.
>> >
>> > The basic story is that a "signature" of "vote flipping" has turned up
>> --
>> > and the beneficiary in every case of this signature has been Mitt
>> Romney.
>> >  This analysis, if validated, could trigger the collapse of the Soviet,
>> er,
>> > American Empire.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?363915-We-NEED-more-hands-on-deck.-Significant-evidence-of-Algorithmic-vote-flipping
>> .
>> >
>> > The first message is a good synopsis of the current arguments.
>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:Plea for math/statistics expertise from RonPaulForums.com

2012-03-17 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
LEAST significant digit.
On Mar 16, 2012 2:48 AM, "Xavier Luminous" 
wrote:

> Off the top of my head I'd like to mention that Benford's Law is
> particularly good at rooting out cheaters.  Basically, the most
> significant digit from a sets of naturally occurring data tends to
> follow a well known power law distribution.  This is true for things
> like lengths of rivers, street addresses, amounts entered on your
> taxes, etc.
>
> I know they use this in voting already, but I'm not sure exactly how.
> Would be interesting to see how this works out in this particular
> case.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:03 AM, James Bowery  wrote:
> > The reason I'm posting this to vortex-l is that of all the candidates,
> the
> > only one that represents a serious threat to establishment science is Ron
> > Paul.
> >
> > The basic story is that a "signature" of "vote flipping" has turned up --
> > and the beneficiary in every case of this signature has been Mitt Romney.
> >  This analysis, if validated, could trigger the collapse of the Soviet,
> er,
> > American Empire.
> >
> >
> http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?363915-We-NEED-more-hands-on-deck.-Significant-evidence-of-Algorithmic-vote-flipping
> .
> >
> > The first message is a good synopsis of the current arguments.
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Plea for math/statistics expertise from RonPaulForums.com

2012-03-16 Thread Alain Sepeda
it seems that in rogue finance, money laundry and rogue business some start
to
invent data that respect that law to look good.

the trick to detect that fake  is to use the same rule for the correlation
between data, which might be meaningless, but will respect the low.
the idea of that law is that physical values don't care about the unit you
use, and have no preference for round numbers.
whatever are the unit, the coefficients, the statistics of first digits
should be the same, and the onlyway to keep the scale invariance is having
a log law for digit probability...

2012/3/16 Xavier Luminous 

> Off the top of my head I'd like to mention that Benford's Law is
> particularly good at rooting out cheaters.  Basically, the most
> significant digit from a sets of naturally occurring data tends to
> follow a well known power law distribution.  This is true for things
> like lengths of rivers, street addresses, amounts entered on your
> taxes, etc.
>
> I know they use this in voting already, but I'm not sure exactly how.
> Would be interesting to see how this works out in this particular
> case.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:03 AM, James Bowery  wrote:
> > The reason I'm posting this to vortex-l is that of all the candidates,
> the
> > only one that represents a serious threat to establishment science is Ron
> > Paul.
> >
> > The basic story is that a "signature" of "vote flipping" has turned up --
> > and the beneficiary in every case of this signature has been Mitt Romney.
> >  This analysis, if validated, could trigger the collapse of the Soviet,
> er,
> > American Empire.
> >
> >
> http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?363915-We-NEED-more-hands-on-deck.-Significant-evidence-of-Algorithmic-vote-flipping
> .
> >
> > The first message is a good synopsis of the current arguments.
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Plea for math/statistics expertise from RonPaulForums.com

2012-03-16 Thread Xavier Luminous
Off the top of my head I'd like to mention that Benford's Law is
particularly good at rooting out cheaters.  Basically, the most
significant digit from a sets of naturally occurring data tends to
follow a well known power law distribution.  This is true for things
like lengths of rivers, street addresses, amounts entered on your
taxes, etc.

I know they use this in voting already, but I'm not sure exactly how.
Would be interesting to see how this works out in this particular
case.


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:03 AM, James Bowery  wrote:
> The reason I'm posting this to vortex-l is that of all the candidates, the
> only one that represents a serious threat to establishment science is Ron
> Paul.
>
> The basic story is that a "signature" of "vote flipping" has turned up --
> and the beneficiary in every case of this signature has been Mitt Romney.
>  This analysis, if validated, could trigger the collapse of the Soviet, er,
> American Empire.
>
> http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?363915-We-NEED-more-hands-on-deck.-Significant-evidence-of-Algorithmic-vote-flipping.
>
> The first message is a good synopsis of the current arguments.



[Vo]:Plea for math/statistics expertise from RonPaulForums.com

2012-03-15 Thread James Bowery
The reason I'm posting this to vortex-l is that of all the candidates, the
only one that represents a serious threat to establishment science is Ron
Paul.

The basic story is that a "signature" of "vote flipping" has turned up --
and the beneficiary in every case of this signature has been Mitt Romney.
 This analysis, if validated, could trigger the collapse of the Soviet, er,
American Empire.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?363915-We-NEED-more-hands-on-deck.-Significant-evidence-of-Algorithmic-vote-flipping.


The first message is a good synopsis of the current arguments.