Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Superconductors= No Electron Conduction

2013-03-21 Thread mixent
In reply to  Roarty, Francis X's message of Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:51:45 +:
Hi,

Somehow I suspect that all they have shown is that their model is wrong.

Un-particle? Are they suggesting hole current not balanced by electron 
current?

From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:31 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Superconductors= No Electron Conduction

Greetings Vortex,

http://phys.org/news/2013-03-electrons-cuprate-superconductors-defy-convention.html

Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Superconductors= No Electron Conduction

2013-03-21 Thread Axil Axil
Recent experiments in superconductivity should concern the people who want
to understand what is happening in a LENR lattice.

http://phys.org/news/2013-03-electrons-cuprate-superconductors-defy-convention.html#ajTabs

Since superconductivity and LENR have much in common, this new discovery
could make life for the LENR theorist very difficult.

In superconductivity, the Luttinger theorem is being violated.

In physics, the Luttinger's theorem states that the number of electrons in
a material is the same as the number of electrons in all of its atoms added
together. Electrons are the sub-atomic particles that carry the current in
a conductive material. Much-studied conducting materials, such as metals
and semiconductors, hold true to the theorem.


From the superconductor experimental data, the experimenters tested it and
indeed found discrepancies between the measured charge and the number of
mobile electrons in cuprate superconductors, defying Luttinger.

This discrepancy increased in proportion to the density of the measured
charge.

This result is telling us that the physics cannot be described by
electrons alone, the experimenter said. This means that the cuprates are
even weirder than previously thought: Something other than electrons
carries the current.


Now the researchers are exploring possible candidates for current-carriers,
particularly a novel kind of excitation called unparticles.

There are a growing number of physicists that believe that unparticles
could be real.

In addition, a new math to describe unparticles is being developed.

Now, these physicists have tried to place constraints on what unparticles
might be so that physicists might have an idea of where to look for them in
new experiments, notably in the Large Hadron Collider.


In LENR, in some systems including the Rossi type reactor, the Papp engine,
the Plasmatron, and the Keshe reactor. All show signs that more electrons
come out of the system then go into them.

This production of extra electrons out of the vacuum energy has concerned
me greatly.

Where are these extra electrons coming from?

There also seems to be a decoupling (delocalization) of charge, spin, and
mass in the waves of electrons as these waves flow around on the surface of
the lattice.

It just may be that when the vacuum energy is tapped in these systems, the
heavy concentration of free electrons operating in a lattice taps into the
unparticle generation mechanism and creates unparticles that decay into
electrons.

The Unparticle for the electron (unelectron) is not all that different from
the electron, except that it demonstrates unparticle behavior and,
subsequently, does not fit in with the Standard Model of particle physics.
While a particle has discrete parameters, the Unelectrons’ parameters are
continuous. In this sense, the unelectron is itself a continuum, and can be
thought of as a collection of many parts of electrons, each carrying a
fraction of the electrons total value.

It is like electrons condense out of the vacuum energy from an electron
vapor of a superposition of electron states made real by the presence of
other electrons.


According to theory, these unparticles are scale invariant. This means that
unparticles look the same at high energies and charge as they do at low
energies and charge.

This means that they have factional electron parameters like mass, charge
and spin; this fractal dimensionality is required to describe unparticles.

If unparticles are happening in LENR, the LENR theories have a hard row to
hoe.

So far in the world of the standard model of particle physics, unparticle
physics does not seem to address any urgent problems, and as such its
discovery is not generally anticipated. However, these novel happenings in
superconductivity and these other various LENR systems might make
considering novel possibilities worthwhile when you are searching for the
unknown.

To quote Louis Pasteur, ‘Chance favors the prepared mind.

Cheers:   Axil

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Roarty, Francis X 
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote:

  Un-particle? Are they suggesting “hole current” not balanced by electron
 current? 

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 *From:* Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:31 AM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Superconductors= No Electron Conduction

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 Greetings Vortex,

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 http://phys.org/news/2013-03-electrons-cuprate-superconductors-defy-convention.html
 

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 Respectfully,

 Ron Kita, Chiralex



RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Superconductors= No Electron Conduction

2013-03-19 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Un-particle? Are they suggesting hole current not balanced by electron 
current?

From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:31 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Superconductors= No Electron Conduction

Greetings Vortex,

http://phys.org/news/2013-03-electrons-cuprate-superconductors-defy-convention.html

Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex