Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Frank Znidarsic]

I retract that. Looks like Fred is a real person.


Fred promised to get someone at Pitt to laugh at me.  That was upsetting.  I 
graduated from Pitt. I marched over to Pitt and visited the dean. They like to 
promote their grads.  He knows me as I have been there before.  They have a new 
Dr. in physical chemistry teaching now.  The dean suggested I take my book to 
him.  He is young and interested in such things.  We talked and he will read 
the book.  Fred drove me to do this.  I don't need his introduction at Pitt.


Frank











  
  
 

RE: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Frank,

 

A decent review from Reigh who presumably has read your book and took the time 
to digest the contents and the ramifications.

 

FYI, I have not read your book. I have no right to challenge it nor trash it. 

 

Despite my ignorance, I think I can say with some conviction that you are one 
of the most honest (honorary) boy scouts I've ever met on Vortex. I perceive 
one of your life's goals is to challenge the establishment. I suspect the 
curious will buy your book because they enjoy the challenge of having their 
current perceptions of physics challenged. And, of course, stalwarts will 
continue to trash it for the very same reasons, because they hate having their 
current perceptions of physics challenged. Let me put it this way, Frank, you 
are performing your job well. Granted, it's possible you may not enjoy aspects 
of your job at times, but that's the way the egg rolls.

 

FWIW, I suspect my own ongoing research into Keplerian laws of planetary 
motion, if I ever accumulate enuf data to publish the results, will most likely 
be ignored by the establishment as well. My findings may be ridiculed. For 
example, I suspect I would most likely be laughed off the stage if I were to 
challenge the establishment by claiming that the heliocentric view of the solar 
system is NOT the only correct (or most accurate) representation of planetary 
motion. The prior geocentric model may also still work. IOW, it's possible that 
both models are not incompatible with each other. It's possible that the prior 
geocentric model failed because they used the wrong engineering configuration 
backed with incorrect math.  My suspicion is that it's all a matter of 
establishing a point-of-view ... and then backing it up some appropriate math 
which hopefully will not turn out to be too complicated. Kepler 1st law states 
a planetary body rotates around a central mass fixed at one of two foci of an 
ellipse. Curiously, nobody has yet been able to determine what the other 
(empty) foci is doing. What planetary laws of motion might be governing what's 
happening at the empty (or imaginary) foci? I think Nature abhors a vacuum. 
Therefore, some kind of law may very well exist there - perhaps even a 
fascinating one. One possibility I thought about is that the angular change of 
the planetary position remains constant at the "empty" foci. Decades ago I 
checked out this possibility. While it is somewhat close, it is definitely NOT 
correct.  I'm sure Kepler hundreds of years ago tired this out and noticed it 
did not match either, as have others since then. Dang! It would have been so 
elegant if it did match up! But Mother Nature said, No! You'll have to dig a 
little deeper to fathom my secretes. And so, my quixotic journey to discover 
what might be happening at the imaginary foci continues. I may succeed in my 
boy scout quest, or I may fail. But try, I must. Sancho keeps telling me: 
That's the way the egg rolls. ;-)

 

I think most readers of such reviews can read between the lines and discern 
that Mr. Zoepfl most likely took the contents of your unread book as an 
unwanted challenge to his current perception of physics & reality. Zoepfl's 
review filled with unwarranted adjectives and disparaging characterizations of 
your intelligence is likely backfire on him, particularly if his objective had 
been to get you tar and feathered. It could very well make the curious even 
more curious. Why? Becuz the bright ones with the quixotic mind-set love to be 
challenged.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Frank Znidarsic]

It was Stephen Cooke not Reigh who offered the positive review.  Thank you Mr. 
Cooke.


Frank Z



-Original Message-
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <orionwo...@charter.net>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2015 11:55 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl


 
  
Frank,
  
 
  
A decent review from Reigh who presumably has read your book and took the time 
to digest the contents and the ramifications.
  
 
  
FYI, I have not read your book. I have no right to challenge it nor trash it. 
  
 
  
Despite my ignorance, I think I can say with some conviction that you are one 
of the most honest (honorary) boy scouts I've ever met on Vortex. I perceive 
one of your life's goals is to challenge the establishment. I suspect the 
curious will buy your book because they enjoy the challenge of having their 
current perceptions of physics challenged. And, of course, stalwarts will 
continue to trash it for the very same reasons, because they hate having their 
current perceptions of physics challenged. Let me put it this way, Frank, you 
are performing your job well. Granted, it's possible you may not enjoy aspects 
of your job at times, but that's the way the egg rolls.
  
 
  
FWIW, I suspect my own ongoing research into Keplerian laws of planetary 
motion, if I ever accumulate enuf data to publish the results, will most likely 
be ignored by the establishment as well. My findings may be ridiculed. For 
example, I suspect I would most likely be laughed off the stage if I were to 
challenge the establishment by claiming that the heliocentric view of the solar 
system is NOT the only correct (or most accurate) representation of planetary 
motion. The prior geocentric model may also still work. IOW, it's possible that 
both models are not incompatible with each other. It's possible that the prior 
geocentric model failed because they used the wrong engineering configuration 
backed with incorrect math.  My suspicion is that it's all a matter of 
establishing a point-of-view ... and then backing it up some appropriate math 
which hopefully will not turn out to be too complicated. Kepler 1st law states 
a planetary body rotates around a central mass fixed at one of two foci of an 
ellipse. Curiously, nobody has yet been able to determine what the other 
(empty) foci is doing. What planetary laws of motion might be governing what's 
happening at the empty (or imaginary) foci? I think Nature abhors a vacuum. 
Therefore, some kind of law may very well exist there - perhaps even a 
fascinating one. One possibility I thought about is that the angular change of 
the planetary position remains constant at the "empty" foci. Decades ago I 
checked out this possibility. While it is somewhat close, it is definitely NOT 
correct.  I'm sure Kepler hundreds of years ago tired this out and noticed it 
did not match either, as have others since then. Dang! It would have been so 
elegant if it did match up! But Mother Nature said, No! You'll have to dig a 
little deeper to fathom my secretes. And so, my quixotic journey to discover 
what might be happening at the imaginary foci continues. I may succeed in my 
boy scout quest, or I may fail. But try, I must. Sancho keeps telling me: 
That's the way the egg rolls. ;-)
  
 
  
I think most readers of such reviews can read between the lines and discern 
that Mr. Zoepfl most likely took the contents of your unread book as an 
unwanted challenge to his current perception of physics & reality. Zoepfl's 
review filled with unwarranted adjectives and disparaging characterizations of 
your intelligence is likely backfire on him, particularly if his objective had 
been to get you tar and feathered. It could very well make the curious even 
more curious. Why? Becuz the bright ones with the quixotic mind-set love to be 
challenged.
  
 
  
Regards,
  
Steven Vincent Johnson
  
OrionWorks.com
  
zazzle.com/orionworks
 

RE: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

I noticed all five reviews that are currently displayed are very positive. Four 
reviewers gave your book five stars. Only one gave 4 stars. That's not bad.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Patrick Ellul]

I retract that. Looks like Fred is a real person.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Patrick Ellul 
wrote:

> By the way Fred Zoepfl is not a real person as far as I can tell. It's
> just an anonymous pseudonym.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
> orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I noticed all five reviews that are currently displayed are very
>> positive. Four reviewers gave your book five stars. Only one gave 4 stars.
>> That's not bad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steven Vincent Johnson
>>
>> OrionWorks.com
>>
>> zazzle.com/orionworks
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Patrick
>
> www.tRacePerfect.com
> The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
> The quickest puzzle ever!
>



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www.tRacePerfect.com
The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
The quickest puzzle ever!

Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Patrick Ellul]

By the way Fred Zoepfl is not a real person as far as I can tell. It's just
an anonymous pseudonym.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

> I noticed all five reviews that are currently displayed are very positive.
> Four reviewers gave your book five stars. Only one gave 4 stars. That's not
> bad.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven Vincent Johnson
>
> OrionWorks.com
>
> zazzle.com/orionworks
>



-- 
Patrick

www.tRacePerfect.com
The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
The quickest puzzle ever!

Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Frank Znidarsic]

I will never interact with Fred Zoephi.  I spoke at the Univ of Pitt.  I have 
had peer reviewed papers.  I don"t need Fred.   Someone wrote this review who 
actually purchased the book.  I feed better now.



Format: Kindle Edition Verified Purchase
I fully agree with the other positive posts written here. This is a great book 
in my view and well worth reading if you are open and interested new ideas and 
points of view.

If everyone only looked at the world from established ideas and concepts we 
would still believe the earth was flat at the center of the universe everything 
was fundamentally only made of earth, air, water and fire. Some people like 
Frank Znidarsic look deeper and try to find new concepts and ideas. New ideas 
are always controversial, its the exploration that counts and it matters that 
people are thinking of them. I highly recommend this book to anyone who thinks 
and likes to explore new physics ideas and possibilities.

I think you will agree this book beautifully ties together an understanding of 
the atom both current and new. The theory, ideas and possibilities behind his 
new concept had me fascinated.





 

RE: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

Sorry to hear about that Frank,

 

The world is full of pompous asses.

 

Perhaps it's the pending presidential election which tends to bring out the 
best and worst of us. When I was in Washington, south of Seattle, last week I 
saw accompanying two bumper stickers on a back of a pickup. 

 

The 2st sticker on the left side of the bumper had a photo of Trump it sed:

 Trump in 2016

The 2nd sticker on the right side of the bumper had a photo of Hillary it sed:

 Trump that B1TCH. 

 

FYI, those who may be new to Vortex, you may notice an increase in OT threads 
pertaining to presidential election issues. It will reach a frenzy leading up 
to election night. Things will go back to normal in Vortex land afterwards. Be 
patient.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

 

Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[mixent]

In reply to  Frank Znidarsic's message of Tue, 1 Sep 2015 19:14:53 -0400:
Hi Frank,

Instead of trying to get him banned on Amazon, why don't you take him up on his
offer to give a talk? Then you will have an opportunity to answer questions
directly. You may even gain some converts. ;)

[snip]
>
>Fred offered some really insulting remarks about me and my book and my work.  
>He never purchased a book.
>I am working to get him banned at amazon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>This book is a self-published ("Znidarsic Science Books" indeed) collection of 
>nonsense that would not be published by any reputable organization. If this 
>loon had the courage of his convictions, then he would submit a paper to the 
>Journal of Applied Physics for peer review, or present his ideas to a 
>university physics department. He won't do either one of those things because 
>they would all laugh at him. If his ideas had any merit whatsoever, then 
>someone smarter than this knucklehead would have figured them out a long time 
>ago. Who are you gonna believe, Einstein, Fermi, Hawking and the other 
>geniuses of 20th and 21st century physics, or this loon?
>
>
>Frank, Get some professional psychiatric help while you still have a few 
>working brain cells. Just Google "grandiose delusional disorder" and you'll 
>figure it out. The problem with crazy people like you is that they misidentify 
>their target audience. I have a Ph.D. in nuclear engineering (U.Md., 1983) and 
>almost 40 years of experience in Naval and commercial nuclear power. I worked 
>on ADM Rickover's staff at Naval Reactors. Do you think I would be interested 
>in your crap? Even your fellow LENR loons don't buy your "strong force" 
>nonsense. Here is what I will do for you: I will arrange for you to present 
>your ideas to the Physics department faculty at Pitt. I'm sure they would all 
>get a good laugh.
>
>What do you think turned you into a theoretical physicist greater than 
>Einstein when you started out as a B.S. EE drone? If you could figure that 
>out, then you could tell your shrink exactly when you lost your mind.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:Fred Zoepfl

[Terry Blanton]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
 wrote:

> The 2st sticker on the left side of the bumper had a photo of Trump it sed:
>
>  Trump in 2016
>
> The 2nd sticker on the right side of the bumper had a photo of Hillary it
> sed:
>
>  Trump that B1TCH.

I liked the one that said, "Trump.  There will be hell toupee."  :-)