Re: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
That's really Hank Mills. He always posts there. 2012/1/6 Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com Someone claiming to be Hank Mills chimed in on Rossi's JoNP webpage with: __ *Hank Mills* http://www.peswiki.com/ January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=10#comment-164611 Hello Everyone, I have recently become aware of the fact a certain other company (that everyone here should be aware of) is claiming to have a robust Ni-H system, without the use of catalysts. In my opinion, it should be pointed out that Andrea Rossi has already stated that without the use of catalysts, Ni-H systems do not produce a practical quantity of output. Instead, their output is extremely limited by orders of magnitude, compared to systems using catalysts. Since he is the only individual in the world to have demonstrated robust and powerful Ni-H systems, I think we need to remember what he has said on this topic. I think we should be skeptical of the claims of any company that claims to have robust Ni-H systems, but do not utilize catalysts. When the claims come from a company that has never performed a single demonstration, I think we need to be even more skeptical. Sincerely, Hank Mills __ My summary which may-or-may-not reflect the actual intent: He appears to be stating that, though the reaction will occur *sans canalyst*, Defkalion's claims to have achieved Rossi-like power levels without a catalyst are unlikely and probably hogwash. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's really Hank Mills. He always posts there. Hank Mills writes favorably and enthusiastically about every impossible, incompetent or fraudulent free energy claim he can get his hands on and the web site on which he writes publicized a recent claim that Obama went to Mars. If you have not had your usual dose of bullpuckey for the week, you can learn about fuelless motors and gravity chain engines right here at http://peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page .
Re: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
Everyone know it was Ron Paul that went to Mars, damn it! 2012/1/6 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: That's really Hank Mills. He always posts there. Hank Mills writes favorably and enthusiastically about every impossible, incompetent or fraudulent free energy claim he can get his hands on and the web site on which he writes publicized a recent claim that Obama went to Mars. If you have not had your usual dose of bullpuckey for the week, you can learn about fuelless motors and gravity chain engines right here at http://peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page . -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
RE: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
Apparently - in claiming that no one else has shown robust and powerful Ni-H systems this Mills (not Randell) is unaware of what Thermacore was doing in the early nineties, ahead of Piantelli (and 50 times more robust). Unlike Rossi - the RD results in the paper below was verified independently. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf Yes, Thermacore used potassium, which is a (Randell) Mills' catalyst, but their system is robust - it is easy to show that they were getting more energy out of Ni-Hi (gas phase) in 1994 - per unit of nickel surface area, than Rossi gets today ! (about double). In effect - the Rossi story is NOT about Ni-H, but is really about the power of nano. The white-paper below presents the case for nano quite well in another arena. http://www.qsinano.com/white_papers/QSI_DSE_Hydrogen_PPT_March_07.pdf Thermacore used nickel capillary tubing, which has a decent surface area - but nothing compared to what Rossi calls nano-metric. The ratio increase in surface, over tubing, is about 100,000:1 if memory serves. From: Robert Leguillon __ Hank Mills http://www.peswiki.com/ January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=10 Hello Everyone, I have recently become aware of the fact a certain other company (that everyone here should be aware of) is claiming to have a robust Ni-H system, without the use of catalysts. In my opinion, it should be pointed out that Andrea Rossi has already stated that without the use of catalysts, Ni-H systems do not produce a practical quantity of output. Instead, their output is extremely limited by orders of magnitude, compared to systems using catalysts. Since he is the only individual in the world to have demonstrated robust and powerful Ni-H systems, I think we need to remember what he has said on this topic. I think we should be skeptical of the claims of any company that claims to have robust Ni-H systems, but do not utilize catalysts. When the claims come from a company that has never performed a single demonstration, I think we need to be even more skeptical. Sincerely, Hank Mills _ attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
Jones: Pages 1 and 2 (Project Summary) are missing from that PDF... -Mark _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:46 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion? Apparently - in claiming that no one else has shown robust and powerful Ni-H systems this Mills (not Randell) is unaware of what Thermacore was doing in the early nineties, ahead of Piantelli (and 50 times more robust). Unlike Rossi - the RD results in the paper below was verified independently. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf Yes, Thermacore used potassium, which is a (Randell) Mills' catalyst, but their system is robust - it is easy to show that they were getting more energy out of Ni-Hi (gas phase) in 1994 - per unit of nickel surface area, than Rossi gets today ! (about double). In effect - the Rossi story is NOT about Ni-H, but is really about the power of nano. The white-paper below presents the case for nano quite well in another arena. http://www.qsinano.com/white_papers/QSI_DSE_Hydrogen_PPT_March_07.pdf Thermacore used nickel capillary tubing, which has a decent surface area - but nothing compared to what Rossi calls nano-metric. The ratio increase in surface, over tubing, is about 100,000:1 if memory serves. From: Robert Leguillon __ Hank Mills http://www.peswiki.com/ January 5th, 2012 at 11:48 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=10 Hello Everyone, I have recently become aware of the fact a certain other company (that everyone here should be aware of) is claiming to have a robust Ni-H system, without the use of catalysts. In my opinion, it should be pointed out that Andrea Rossi has already stated that without the use of catalysts, Ni-H systems do not produce a practical quantity of output. Instead, their output is extremely limited by orders of magnitude, compared to systems using catalysts. Since he is the only individual in the world to have demonstrated robust and powerful Ni-H systems, I think we need to remember what he has said on this topic. I think we should be skeptical of the claims of any company that claims to have robust Ni-H systems, but do not utilize catalysts. When the claims come from a company that has never performed a single demonstration, I think we need to be even more skeptical. Sincerely, Hank Mills _ attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Someone claiming to be Hank Mills chimed in on Rossi's JoNP webpage with: . . . I think we should be skeptical of the claims of any company that claims to have robust Ni-H systems, but do not utilize catalysts. Mills is confused. Defkalion says they do utilize a catalyst. They say they discovered the catalyst independently. If there is no patent, it does not matter how they develop it, as long they did not nothing criminal such as stealing a sample, and nothing in violation of a contract (subject to a civil suit). Even if they got a sample and reverse engineered it that would be legal. Without a patent anyone can do that. With the patent, you do not need to do that. The patent itself should tell you everything you need to know. If it does not, it is not valid. Rossi believes he is capable of manufacturing so many machines that even if someone reverse engineers it they will not be able to compete. In the early 1980s, IBM casually released the specifications for its personal computer and threw open the market for compatible PCs. They did this because they thought that they had such enormous manufacturing capabilities and such a large market share they did not have to worry about other companies undercutting them in price. They were wrong, but it was a rational calculation. Rossi's use of the same strategy is not only wrong, it is a bit crazy. However smart he may be, he cannot compete in mass production with companies such as Hitachi or GE. I do not think he can form an ironclad partnership with a large manufacturer. Suppose he goes in business with GE for example. That might give GE a six-month advantage and a large starting market share, but the others would soon catch up. - Jed
