Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
DEFINITELY not a vet. A Swedish corresponded wrote to me: Med.vet = Medicinsk vetenskap = Medicine Science (not a veterinarien) civ.ing. = civilingenjör = Master of Science (M Sc) in any dicipline (not only building infrastructure) The mix-up is hilarious. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
Sunil, May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name? Thanks in advance. Yours, Mark Gibbs. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows.. Just want to settle a couple of things. Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170) state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which it is, trust me : ), it says: Doktor i Medicinsk Vetenskap, Civilingenjör. These translate into English as: PhD Medical Science, MSc. So, my guess is he did an MSc in Engineering Physics (5 yrs) followed by research/studies in medicine. CivIng does NOT mean Civil Engineer in Sweden. It covers ALL higher level engineering science paths, that lead to a Master's level degree, and are 4-5 years long. The traditional paths being ChemEng, EE, Eng Physics, Computer Science and _Civil_Engineering_ I am bilingual (Swedish/English) and did Engineering Physics (MSc) : ) /Sunil
RE: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
Hi Mark, Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he actually studied. (Could ask him I suppose.) I found these, btw (after I posted, I swear!) http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._med._vet. and http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%C3%B6r .. so it's ALL *facts* : D /Sunil From: mgi...@gibbs.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:50:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sunil, May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name? Thanks in advance. Yours, Mark Gibbs. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows.. Just want to settle a couple of things. Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170) state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which it is, trust me : ), it says: Doktor i Medicinsk Vetenskap, Civilingenjör. These translate into English as: PhD Medical Science, MSc. So, my guess is he did an MSc in Engineering Physics (5 yrs) followed by research/studies in medicine. CivIng does NOT mean Civil Engineer in Sweden. It covers ALL higher level engineering science paths, that lead to a Master's level degree, and are 4-5 years long. The traditional paths being ChemEng, EE, Eng Physics, Computer Science and _Civil_Engineering_ I am bilingual (Swedish/English) and did Engineering Physics (MSc) : ) /Sunil
Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
by the way, many people say Rossi is doctor in philosophy of science, but isn't it simply the original of PhD (Doctor in Philosophy) , or at least MsC (Engineer) ? 2013/5/24 Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com Hi Mark, Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he actually studied. (Could ask him I suppose.) I found these, btw (after I posted, I swear!) http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._med._vet. and http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%C3%B6r .. so it's ALL *facts* : D /Sunil -- From: mgi...@gibbs.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:50:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sunil, May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name? Thanks in advance. Yours, Mark Gibbs. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows.. Just want to settle a couple of things. Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170) state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which it is, trust me : ), it says: Doktor i Medicinsk Vetenskap, Civilingenjör. These translate into English as: PhD Medical Science, MSc. So, my guess is he did an MSc in Engineering Physics (5 yrs) followed by research/studies in medicine. CivIng does NOT mean Civil Engineer in Sweden. It covers ALL higher level engineering science paths, that lead to a Master's level degree, and are 4-5 years long. The traditional paths being ChemEng, EE, Eng Physics, Computer Science and _Civil_Engineering_ I am bilingual (Swedish/English) and did Engineering Physics (MSc) : ) /Sunil
Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
Thanks. You are quoted: The E-Cat Testing Team, Real or Ringers?http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/24/the-e-cat-testing-team-real-or-ringers/ [mg] On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he actually studied. (Could ask him I suppose.) I found these, btw (after I posted, I swear!) http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._med._vet. and http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%C3%B6r .. so it's ALL *facts* : D /Sunil -- From: mgi...@gibbs.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:50:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sunil, May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name? Thanks in advance. Yours, Mark Gibbs. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows.. Just want to settle a couple of things. Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170) state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which it is, trust me : ), it says: Doktor i Medicinsk Vetenskap, Civilingenjör. These translate into English as: PhD Medical Science, MSc. So, my guess is he did an MSc in Engineering Physics (5 yrs) followed by research/studies in medicine. CivIng does NOT mean Civil Engineer in Sweden. It covers ALL higher level engineering science paths, that lead to a Master's level degree, and are 4-5 years long. The traditional paths being ChemEng, EE, Eng Physics, Computer Science and _Civil_Engineering_ I am bilingual (Swedish/English) and did Engineering Physics (MSc) : ) /Sunil
Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote: Thanks. You are quoted: The E-Cat Testing Team, Real or Ringers?http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/24/the-e-cat-testing-team-real-or-ringers/ I added this reality check comment: Note also that the research was paid for by the Alba Langenskiöld Foundation and ELFORSK AB. The latter is an industrial consortium of Sweden’s major energy producers. I do not think an organization of this caliber would pay for a group of incompetent amateurs to investigate this claim. I am confident that experts in Elforsk know these researchers, and have vetted them. This kind of organization does fund a group of nobodies, and it would not allow them to upload a report with errors or a false claim about funding. In other words, the authors are not the only ones risking their credibility. The Foundation and Elsforsk are also, as is Osaka University, and the four other researchers mentioned in the acknowledgements. This is no great risk. Cold fusion has been verified at over 200 major universities and national laboratories, often at high signal to noise ratios. The scientific method works; experiments work. We can be sure it is real. Rossi’s claims are not so different these others, so it is likely that his claims are also true. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
MarkG: Good article short, to the point, fair, providing links for those curious enough to look up the credentials themselves without having to do the separate web-searches. Keep up the balanced reporting -Mark Iverson From: mark.gi...@gmail.com [mailto:mark.gi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mark Gibbs Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:52 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... Thanks. You are quoted: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/24/the-e-cat-testing-team-rea l-or-ringers/ The E-Cat Testing Team, Real or Ringers? [mg] On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he actually studied. (Could ask him I suppose.) I found these, btw (after I posted, I swear!) http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._med._vet. and http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%C3%B6r http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%25C3%25B6r .. so it's ALL *facts* : D /Sunil _ From: mgi...@gibbs.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:50:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sunil, May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name? Thanks in advance. Yours, Mark Gibbs. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows.. Just want to settle a couple of things. Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170) state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which it is, trust me : ), it says: Doktor i Medicinsk Vetenskap, Civilingenjör. These translate into English as: PhD Medical Science, MSc. So, my guess is he did an MSc in Engineering Physics (5 yrs) followed by research/studies in medicine. CivIng does NOT mean Civil Engineer in Sweden. It covers ALL higher level engineering science paths, that lead to a Master's level degree, and are 4-5 years long. The traditional paths being ChemEng, EE, Eng Physics, Computer Science and _Civil_Engineering_ I am bilingual (Swedish/English) and did Engineering Physics (MSc) : ) /Sunil
Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: DEFINITELY not a vet. I was wondering how a veterinarian would be helpful to the testing. I figured maybe he was both a veterinarian and a genius, and that it was his qualifications as a genius that they were chiefly relying upon in this instance. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet...
Hi Mark, The Publications link for Hartman is pointing to apple.com. Cheers, Adrian From: Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... Thanks. You are quoted: The E-Cat Testing Team, Real or Ringers? [mg] On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Hehe, yes to both, I suppose, though as stated I am guessing at what he actually studied. (Could ask him I suppose.) I found these, btw (after I posted, I swear!) http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._med._vet. and http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilingenj%C3%B6r .. so it's ALL *facts* : D /Sunil From: mgi...@gibbs.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:50:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hartman's not a vet... To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sunil, May I quote you in a Forbes posting? If I may, may I cite your name? Thanks in advance. Yours, Mark Gibbs. On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, My first post, after a couple of year's hiding in the shadows.. Just want to settle a couple of things. Torbjörn Hartman's personal merits (as listed at http://katalog.uu.se/empInfo?id=N96-5170) state Dr.Med.vet., civ.ing.. Assuming the line is written in Swedish (which it is, trust me : ), it says: Doktor i Medicinsk Vetenskap, Civilingenjör. These translate into English as: PhD Medical Science, MSc. So, my guess is he did an MSc in Engineering Physics (5 yrs) followed by research/studies in medicine. CivIng does NOT mean Civil Engineer in Sweden. It covers ALL higher level engineering science paths, that lead to a Master's level degree, and are 4-5 years long. The traditional paths being ChemEng, EE, Eng Physics, Computer Science and _Civil_Engineering_ I am bilingual (Swedish/English) and did Engineering Physics (MSc) : ) /Sunil
