Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Frank Znidarsic]

>From my book.  It may not text correctly and the equations do not show up.



A typical cold fusion cell is constructed of palladiumor nickel.  Hydrogen is 
driven into themetal.  This dissolved hydrogen is notbound.  It is, however, 
confined at thebounds of the nano-particle.  The metalliclattice naturally 
resonates at thermal frequencies (1013 hz).  This vibration is enhanced with 
heat, laserlight, or radio waves.  Nanometer scaleddomains couple strongly with 
the external stimulation35.  The external stimulation imposes a speed 
of1,093,850 meters per second upon the dissolved hydrogen.  In the 
gravitomagnetic devices, electronicvibration is transferred to the non-bound 
nucleons that rest between the layersof a superconductive disk.  The 
nucleonsenter into a state of continuous quantum transition as the magnetic 
spin orbitforce is expelled to the surface of the nano-domain.  “Theconstants 
of the motion tend toward those of the electromagnetic” and thecold fusion 
process proceeds.
A type of notation came out of earlyspectroscopy.  The notation has a 
termcalled the wave number (2p/l)and a term called the angular frequency w.  
These terms were used to describe the motionof a standing wave in (9).  
Thequantification of this motion produced several well-known results.  Equation 
(9a) will now show a new electronic result.
(9a)
  
The isolated electron resonates at the highestpossible frequency; its Compton 
frequency fc.  The angular frequency w was quantified using the 
Comptonfrequency of the electron (2pfc).  The Compton frequency of a 
condensate, likethat of a chime, varies inversely its length. Harmonics appear 
in (29) at fractions (1/n) of the electronic Compton frequency. 
The length of a particle rp emerged from the refactoring of Coulomb’sequation.  
A multiple of this length (nrp) exits at the extent ofthe condensate.  This 
extent was used toset the length of the wave number.  Theseconditions were 
inserted into (9) resulting in (29).
(29)
 
As before, a solution of (29) (the frequency dividedby the wave number) 
produced the electronic speed in (30).  Equation (30) is an identity as both 
sides ofthe equation contain independent constants. A factor of 2p was injected 
into the solution asthe longitudinal motion of the dissolved hydrogen follows 
the transverse motionof the electronic cloud.  The normalspeed of sound in a 
solid (6000 m/s) arises as each nucleon interacts with itsnearest neighbor. The 
speed expressed in (30) acts across the length of thenano-particle.  This 
speed, like that of atidal wave, greatly exceeds the speed of sound in the 
metallic structure.Dr.Edmund Storms and Dr. Michael Mckurby have found that 
the metal must be highlyloaded with hydrogen.  The resultingpressure increases 
metal’s natural frequency from 1012 to 1013  hz.  Thisis the frequency of the 
intense, warm thermal stimulation.  Electrons and mobile nucleons 
simultaneouslyenter into a state of quantum a transition at the speed Sn 
(1,093,850 meters per second).  This high speed is difficult to 
achieve,however, it appears that the cold fusion speed is much more accessible 
than thehot fusion temperature.
(30)
 
The concept that a superconductor downshifts thefrequencies of matter, was 
first proposed by Dr. David Noever at the MarshallSpaceflight Center.  He 
explained it to meduring my visit at Marshall in 1997.  Thisauthor applied this 
idea to the Compton frequency of a condensate.  The first term, on the right 
side of (30),expresses the downshifted Compton frequency of a condensate of 
electrons.  This term qualifies the relationship thatNoever was looking for.  
With n set to one there is no downshift andthe frequency is the Compton 
frequency of the electron fc.  With nset to ten to sixth power the downshifted 
frequency is in terahertz (1013  hz).  Thisis the frequency, of the thermal 
vibration, that stimulates a cold fusion reaction.  With nset to ten to the 
ninth power the downshifted frequency is in megahertz.  This is the frequency, 
of the radio waves,used in Podkletnov’s gravitational experiments. 
The second term, on right side of (30), describesthe length (nrp).  With nset 
to one, the length is the half classical radius of the electron.  This is the 
length expressed by the electron’swave number (12).  With n set to ten to sixth 
power, the lengthis in nanometers.  This is the length of theactive cold fusion 
environment.  With n set to ten to ninth power, the lengthis in meters.  This 
was the diameter of Podkletnov’ssuperconductive disk.
The protons dissolved within a proton conductorvibrate in unison and 
energetically appear as one large nucleus.  Dr. George Miley has called the 
cluster acompound nucleus.  The intense stimulationforces the nano-particles to 
act like lasers on steroids.  The magnetic, gravitomagnetic, and nuclearspin 
orbit forces are expelled to the surface of the nano-cluster.  These forces 
act, from the surface 

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Frank Znidarsic]

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From: bobcook39923 <bobcook39...@hotmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, May 29, 2017 2:21 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin



Frank—
 
In your model used to calculate the speed of dissolved hydrogen is the hydrogen 
a neutral H-2 molecule, a hydrogen H+ ion or some other form of hydrogen?


No the vibrations are imposed by external stimuli.
...
 
What is the force field that couples the dissolved hydrogen to the lattice 
which is vibrating?


The end of the condensate


...
 
How does the speed of the dissolved hydrogen compare to the speed of the 
lattice nuclei—Pd or Ni-- whatever the case may be?


The normal speed is 6000 KM per sec. at a lattice frequency of 10 exp 13 hz.  
This assumes that each
atom interacts with its nearest neighbor.


Highly loaded the natural frequency of the dissolved hydrogen is 10 to the 14 
hz.  
That frequency coupled with the extent of the condensate produces the million 
meter velocity.




 
Bob Cook
 

 

From: Frank Znidarsic
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:14 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

 
The cut and paste did not text the same as in the book.

1013 is 10 to the thirteenth power hertz.

 

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From: Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 11:05 am
Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

 


Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

I tried to lower the plasma frequency to get emissions in the RF band.  I used 
helium because it is heavier to get operation in the lower frequency range.  No 
anomalous energy again. 

I used a light bulb to try argon.  No anomalous energy again.

One thing for sure is that the stimulation has to be intense.  Maybe my stuff 
was not powerful enough.  With more power the electrode will just burn out.  
Congrats to anyone who got a system working.

 

>From my book:

 


A typical cold fusion cell is constructed of palladium or nickel.  Hydrogen is 
driven into the metal.  The composite metallic structure naturally resonates at 
thermal frequencies (1013 hz).  This vibration is enhanced with heat, laser 
light, or radio waves.  Nanometer scaled domains couple strongly with the 
external stimulation35.  The vibration imposes a speed of 1,093,850 meters per 
second upon the dissolved hydrogen.  In the gravitomagnetic devices, electronic 
vibration is transferred to the non-bound nucleons that rest between the layers 
of a superconductive disk.  The nucleons enter into a state of continuous 
quantum transition as the magnetic spin orbit force is expelled to the surface 
of the nano-domain.  “The constants of the motion tend toward those of the 
electromagnetic” and the cold fusion process proceeds..

 

This speed greatly exceeds the normal speed of sound (6,000 m/s) in the 
metallic structure.  Dr. Edmund Storms and Dr. Michael Mckurby have found that 
the metal must be highly loaded with hydrogen.  The resulting pressure 
increases metal’s natural frequency from 1012 to 1013 hz.  This is the 
frequency of the warm thermal vibrations.  Electrons and mobile nucleons 
simultaneously enter into a state of quantum a transition at the speedSn 
(1,093,850 meters per second).  This high speed is difficult to achieve, 
however, it appears that the cold fusion speed is much more accessible than the 
hot fusion temperature.





-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 10:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

 

Some of this new version of structured waves is tied into the recent papers on 
the discovery of RF from cells producing OU. There are several. I will try to 
post a bibliography at some future time but the underlying strategy appears to 
be this: when the anomalous heat is present, an RF signal is also present.






That's what I tried to do, generate RF by adjusting the size of the 
nano-particles.   I was envisioning RF in the millimeter band.  RF energy can 
be converted directly into electrical current with a diode.  My experiments did 
not produce any RF energy.  I did many of these experiments even at cryogenic 
temperatures.  I never completed the experiment with the co2 laser.

 

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/movies/cryo.wmv

 








Frank Znidarsic
 

RE: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Frank—

In your model used to calculate the speed of dissolved hydrogen is the hydrogen 
a neutral H-2 molecule, a hydrogen H+ ion or some other form of hydrogen?

What is the force field that couples the dissolved hydrogen to the lattice 
which is vibrating?

How does the speed of the dissolved hydrogen compare to the speed of the 
lattice nuclei—Pd or Ni-- whatever the case may be?

Bob Cook


From: Frank Znidarsic<mailto:fznidar...@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:14 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

The cut and paste did not text the same as in the book.
1013 is 10 to the thirteenth power hertz.

-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 11:05 am
Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin


Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin
I tried to lower the plasma frequency to get emissions in the RF band.  I used 
helium because it is heavier to get operation in the lower frequency range.  No 
anomalous energy again.
I used a light bulb to try argon.  No anomalous energy again.
One thing for sure is that the stimulation has to be intense.  Maybe my stuff 
was not powerful enough.  With more power the electrode will just burn out.  
Congrats to anyone who got a system working.

>From my book:

A typical cold fusion cell is constructed of palladium or nickel.  Hydrogen is 
driven into the metal.  The composite metallic structure naturally resonates at 
thermal frequencies (1013 hz).  This vibration is enhanced with heat, laser 
light, or radio waves.  Nanometer scaled domains couple strongly with the 
external stimulation35.  The vibration imposes a speed of 1,093,850 meters per 
second upon the dissolved hydrogen.  In the gravitomagnetic devices, electronic 
vibration is transferred to the non-bound nucleons that rest between the layers 
of a superconductive disk.  The nucleons enter into a state of continuous 
quantum transition as the magnetic spin orbit force is expelled to the surface 
of the nano-domain.  “The constants of the motion tend toward those of the 
electromagnetic” and the cold fusion process proceeds..

This speed greatly exceeds the normal speed of sound (6,000 m/s) in the 
metallic structure.  Dr. Edmund Storms and Dr. Michael Mckurby have found that 
the metal must be highly loaded with hydrogen.  The resulting pressure 
increases metal’s natural frequency from 1012 to 1013  hz.  This is the 
frequency of the warm thermal vibrations.  Electrons and mobile nucleons 
simultaneously enter into a state of quantum a transition at the speed Sn 
(1,093,850 meters per second).  This high speed is difficult to achieve, 
however, it appears that the cold fusion speed is much more accessible than the 
hot fusion temperature.


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com<mailto:fznidar...@aol.com>>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:l...@eskimo.com>>
Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 10:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

Some of this new version of structured waves is tied into the recent papers on 
the discovery of RF from cells producing OU. There are several. I will try to 
post a bibliography at some future time but the underlying strategy appears to 
be this: when the anomalous heat is present, an RF signal is also present.


That's what I tried to do, generate RF by adjusting the size of the 
nano-particles.   I was envisioning RF in the millimeter band.  RF energy can 
be converted directly into electrical current with a diode.  My experiments did 
not produce any RF energy.  I did many of these experiments even at cryogenic 
temperatures.  I never completed the experiment with the co2 laser.

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/movies/cryo.wmv

Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Frank Znidarsic]

The cut and paste did not text the same as in the book.
1013 is 10 to the thirteenth power hertz.


-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 11:05 am
Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin






Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin


I tried to lower the plasma frequency to get emissions in the RF band.  I used 
helium because it is heavier to get operation in the lower frequency range.  No 
anomalous energy again.
I used a light bulb to try argon.  No anomalous energy again.
One thing for sure is that the stimulation has to be intense.  Maybe my stuff 
was not powerful enough.  With more power the electrode will just burn out.  
Congrats to anyone who got a system working.


>From my book:



A typical cold fusion cell is constructed of palladiumor nickel.  Hydrogen is 
driven into themetal.  The composite metallic structurenaturally resonates at 
thermal frequencies (1013 hz).  This vibration is enhanced with heat, 
laserlight, or radio waves.  Nanometer scaleddomains couple strongly with the 
external stimulation35.  The vibration imposes a speed of 1,093,850meters per 
second upon the dissolved hydrogen. In the gravitomagnetic devices, electronic 
vibration is transferred tothe non-bound nucleons that rest between the layers 
of a superconductivedisk.  The nucleons enter into a state ofcontinuous quantum 
transition as the magnetic spin orbit force is expelled tothe surface of the 
nano-domain.  “The constants of the motion tend towardthose of the 
electromagnetic” and the cold fusion process proceeds..


Thisspeed greatly exceeds the normal speed of sound (6,000 m/s) in the 
metallicstructure.  Dr. Edmund Storms and Dr.Michael Mckurby have found that 
the metal must be highly loaded withhydrogen.  The resulting pressureincreases 
metal’s natural frequency from 1012 to 1013  hz.  Thisis the frequency of the 
warm thermal vibrations.  Electrons and mobile nucleons simultaneouslyenter 
into a state of quantum a transition at the speed Sn (1,093,850 meters per 
second).  This high speed is difficult to achieve,however, it appears that the 
cold fusion speed is much more accessible than thehot fusion temperature.





-Original Message-
From: Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, May 22, 2017 10:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin




Some of this new version of structured waves is tied into the  recent 
papers on the discovery of RF from cells producing OU.  There are several. 
I will try to post a bibliography at some  future time but the underlying 
strategy appears to be this: when  the anomalous heat is present, an RF 
signal is also present. 





That's what I tried to do, generate RF by adjusting the size of the 
nano-particles.   I was envisioning RF in the millimeter band.  RF energy can 
be converted directly into electrical current with a diode.  My experiments did 
not produce any RF energy.  I did many of these experiments even at cryogenic 
temperatures.  I never completed the experiment with the co2 laser.  


http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/movies/cryo.wmv



Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Jones Beene]

Frank Znidarsic wrote:

>> Some of this new version of structured waves is tied into the 
recent papers on the discovery of RF from cells producing OU. There are 
several. I will try to post a bibliography at some future time but the 
underlying strategy appears to be this: when the anomalous heat is 
present, an RF signal is also present.


> That's what I tried to do, generate RF by adjusting the size of the 
nano-particles.   I was envisioning RF in the millimeter band. RF energy 
can be converted directly into electrical current with a diode.  My 
experiments did not produce any RF energy.  I did many of these 
experiments even at cryogenic temperatures.  I never completed the 
experiment with the co2 laser.




Frank,

Here is the abstract from recent summary paper by Nagel et al on finding 
RF with heat


There is a small literature on the combination of low energy nuclear 
reactions (LENR) experiments and radiofrequencies (RF). The papers are 
worth attention in case they can teach anything about the mechanisms 
behind LENR. Application of RF to LENR electrochemical cells in the 
mid-1990s clearly showed increases in the production of excess power. 
More recently, RF have been measured in LENR cells. However, it is still 
possible that those data are artifacts of the operation of the system, 
and not indicative of LENR. It has been suggested that the appearance of 
RF in LENR experiments is the cause of LENR, and not merely a 
manifestation of such reactions. That possibility has significant 
implications. In the present paper, we summarize and analyze the results 
obtained by different research groups concerning the application and 
emission of RF in the kHz to GHz range associated with heat production 
during electrochemical loading of deuterium into palladium. Ref:


"Electromagnetic Emission in the kHz to GHz Range Associated with Heat 
Production During Electrochemical Loading of Deuterium into Palladium: A 
Summary and Analysis of Results Obtained by Different Research Groups"

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Frank Znidarsic]

Some of this new version of structured waves is tied into the  recent 
papers on the discovery of RF from cells producing OU.  There are several. 
I will try to post a bibliography at some  future time but the underlying 
strategy appears to be this: when  the anomalous heat is present, an RF 
signal is also present. 





That's what I tried to do, generate RF by adjusting the size of the 
nano-particles.   I was envisioning RF in the millimeter band.  RF energy can 
be converted directly into electrical current with a diode.  My experiments did 
not produce any RF energy.  I did many of these experiments even at cryogenic 
temperatures.  I never completed the experiment with the co2 laser.  


http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/movies/cryo.wmv



Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Jones Beene]

Eric,

Dardik  himself has apparently been out of the picture for some time. He 
has gone through legal troubles galore, lost his MD license and been 
incarcerated for failure to pay child support. Nevertheless he was a 
brilliant inventor at one time. There is an excellent bio on him written 
by Roger Lewin.


The key guy from the former company - in the superwave technology today 
may be Arik El-Boher who did join the Kimmel group and appears to be 
there now. This may be his most recent paper:


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282984864_Progress_towards_understanding_anomalous_heat_effect_in_metal_deuterides

More intriguing is the work at Texas Tech. It has been hush-hush for a 
variety of reasons... one of which is probably the IP status of 
superwaves - which may have evolved in a different slant than originally 
claimed.


Some of this new version of structured waves is tied into the recent 
papers on the discovery of RF from cells producing OU. There are 
several. I will try to post a bibliography at some future time but the 
underlying strategy appears to be this: when the anomalous heat is 
present, an RF signal is also present. The spectrum is low megahertz to 
high kHz. Therefore, given that correspondence - in order to enhance 
whatever the signal signifies in terms of anomalous heat, the goal is to 
use the same output amplified as input.



Eric Walker wrote:

 Jones Beene wrote:

I have seen no confirmation of Energetics being purchased by
someone else, but obviously another party has stepped in on the
IP. A further interesting detail is that Violante in Italy, the
Texas Tech group, and also Abundo in Italy are reported to be
using a similar approach of highly structured waveforms in the
range of 100 kHz and up, which could be seen as technically
infringing and/or attempting to get around the Dardik patent.


I think Irving Dardik, also of Energetics Technologies, joined the 
SKINR group at the University of Missouri [1], which might fill in 
some of those details.


Eric

[1] http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/kimmel.html 

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future - Brillouin

[Eric Walker]

On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Jones Beene  wrote:

I have seen no confirmation of Energetics being purchased by someone else,
> but obviously another party has stepped in on the IP. A further interesting
> detail is that Violante in Italy, the Texas Tech group, and also Abundo in
> Italy are reported to be using a similar approach of highly structured
> waveforms in the range of 100 kHz and up, which could be seen as
> technically infringing and/or attempting to get around the Dardik patent.
>

I think Irving Dardik, also of Energetics Technologies, joined the SKINR
group at the University of Missouri [1], which might fill in some of those
details.

Eric

[1] http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/kimmel.html