Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
Is it the people or the system (communism) that is evil? No doubt it's both. Evil men come up with the Evil System which in turn breeds Evil men to power. These atrocities are by no means isolated to Mao. These atrocities are visible and clear halmarks of the communist philosophy. Name a single communist state that did not commit these atrocities. I'll buy you an expensive steak lunch if you can do so. Name a people who's under the yoke of communism who do not yearn to be free from it? Yet despite the horrors and atrocities of communism, there are still thieves up in Washington who will imposed it (communism) on Americans. What is even sadder is how lazy bum Americans are letting him, just so that they can receive some discretionary income to buy that new Blu-Ray HDTV gizmo. How the usurper-in-thief could win re-election is beyond me. Little do they realize that the re-election of this communist-in-thief is a form of judgement on them. By this token, Americans do deserve the recession and the pain and suffering they are getting. Oh, my heart bleeds for the pain and suffering of my Adopted country that I love. When will Americans wake up and repent? I guess this would be my last post as I am about to be banned for political hatred. For since when is telling the truth considered political hatred? Truth is NOT treason my friends. And saying the truth about Bambi is NOT political hatred. Jojo - Original Message - From: Robert Lynn To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea They are incredibly evil people. Read this harrowing account of a child bought up in one of their concentration camps who managed to escape http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/16/escape-north-korea-prison-camp, China, morally and ethically bankrupt, is totally to blame for their continued existence via their support of the regime as a buffer between themselves and the West. This support is perhaps not totally surprising given their recent record of being run by the number 1 most evil man in history: From 1958 to 1962 Mao's efforts to collectivise China caused roughly 53m unnecessary deaths. Most of these were by starvation- perhaps 15% by the deliberate withdrawing of food from 'undesirables' (that is those who opposed the madness ). People who were too old , too young or sick were also denied food. In one town the locals queued night and day for the opportunity to dig clay that they then ate.- 250,000 tonnes of it. Many of these people died of constipation, others from ruptured sphincters. 5% to 10% of the total deaths were by executions or beatings. At this time China was shipping food to Soviet Russia, East Germany, Albania and Cuba to maintain the pretence that there was no famine. In socialist fervour, local cadres inflated local harvests- to the point that when the state then took it's 30%, there was none left at all. The hierarchy were not fooled by these inflated figures- but they took the harvests anyway. Today Mao's birthplace it was basically a shrine with thousands queueing up daily to worship the great helmsman. What is wrong with the Chinese? It scares me that such people will soon run the world. On 6 November 2012 02:20, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: At least it was mostly painless. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Is it the people or the system (communism) that is evil? No doubt it's both. Evil men come up with the Evil System which in turn breeds Evil men to power. These atrocities are by no means isolated to Mao. These atrocities are visible and clear halmarks of the communist philosophy. Name a single communist state that did not commit these atrocities. I'll buy you an expensive steak lunch if you can do so. Name a people who's under the yoke of communism who do not yearn to be free from it? Yet despite the horrors and atrocities of communism, there are still thieves up in Washington who will imposed it (communism) on Americans. What is even sadder is how lazy bum Americans are letting him, just so that they can receive some discretionary income to buy that new Blu-Ray HDTV gizmo. How the usurper-in-thief could win re-election is beyond me. Little do they realize that the re-election of this communist-in-thief is a form of judgement on them. By this token, Americans do deserve the recession and the pain and suffering they are getting. Oh, my heart bleeds for the pain and suffering of my Adopted country that I love. When will Americans wake up and repent? I guess this would be my last post as I am about to be banned for political hatred. For since when is telling the truth considered political hatred? Truth is NOT treason my friends. And saying the truth about Bambi is NOT political hatred. Elsewhere: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com viahttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=1311182 eskimo.com 11:14 AM (20 hours ago) to vortex-l May I also suggest that you crack down on off-topic posts also. Only a few people are chronic offenders and they won't listen to reason since they have been here a long time and are simply gabbing with friends, and of course, they make up the rules as we go. I strongly believe that off-topic post clearly destroy this forum and its science value and I strongly advocated for moderation of such behavior only to be ignored and ostracized. You need to enforce your rule 2, even if the offender is popular here. No one should be beyond the rules no matter how well loved and popular he may be in this forum - that is if you want your forum to remain useful and relevant. But if you are interested in mob rule here, then so be it. Jojo ROFL!
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
Laugh your heart out my friend, I myself am laughing at my own posts. I posted this response on Jed's off topic thread to deliberately hijack his thread to try to prove a point. That there is no rule of rule here in Vortex. The banning of Loren was an arbitrary exercise of owner power.I am cognizant of the fact that my response is a violation of the spirit of my first complaint about off topic posts. I want to try to see how Bill would treat my off topic response to an off-topic thread. What can I say, I always try to stand up for people I feel were not given a fair shake. I thoroughly read Loren's political hatred posts and I do not see any egregious violations more than the other egregious violations already happenning here. For the most part, he told the truth. There are those who deserve to be banned here for blatant, repeated and egregious violations of the rules of this forum; and yet are tolerated and even celebrated. The only reason why Loren was banned is because of his views, because he attacked our messiah-in-thief. The banning was arbitrary. If Bill wanted to be enforce his rules, he should. I see two blatant violators of rules here that seems to be given more leeway than Loren has been afforded. Now, if Bill wanted to ban all political and religious threads, he should do so fairly and ban all violators; not give political threads he agrees with more leeway. But, if he simply wants to exercise his option as owner, then he should just do so and stop pretending otherwise. Well, I guess this is the end of the rope for me. I don't see much more leeway for my political hatred and religious posts anymore. Goodbye my friends. May you live in Interesting times with your newly minted messiah-in-thief. LOL Jojo - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote: Is it the people or the system (communism) that is evil? No doubt it's both. Evil men come up with the Evil System which in turn breeds Evil men to power. These atrocities are by no means isolated to Mao. These atrocities are visible and clear halmarks of the communist philosophy. Name a single communist state that did not commit these atrocities. I'll buy you an expensive steak lunch if you can do so. Name a people who's under the yoke of communism who do not yearn to be free from it? Yet despite the horrors and atrocities of communism, there are still thieves up in Washington who will imposed it (communism) on Americans. What is even sadder is how lazy bum Americans are letting him, just so that they can receive some discretionary income to buy that new Blu-Ray HDTV gizmo. How the usurper-in-thief could win re-election is beyond me. Little do they realize that the re-election of this communist-in-thief is a form of judgement on them. By this token, Americans do deserve the recession and the pain and suffering they are getting. Oh, my heart bleeds for the pain and suffering of my Adopted country that I love. When will Americans wake up and repent? I guess this would be my last post as I am about to be banned for political hatred. For since when is telling the truth considered political hatred? Truth is NOT treason my friends. And saying the truth about Bambi is NOT political hatred. Elsewhere: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com via eskimo.com 11:14 AM (20 hours ago) to vortex-l May I also suggest that you crack down on off-topic posts also. Only a few people are chronic offenders and they won't listen to reason since they have been here a long time and are simply gabbing with friends, and of course, they make up the rules as we go. I strongly believe that off-topic post clearly destroy this forum and its science value and I strongly advocated for moderation of such behavior only to be ignored and ostracized. You need to enforce your rule 2, even if the offender is popular here. No one should be beyond the rules no matter how well loved and popular he may be in this forum - that is if you want your forum to remain useful and relevant. But if you are interested in mob rule here, then so be it. Jojo ROFL!
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: At least it was mostly painless. Yeah. They zeroed in first. They might've used him for target practice. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
But probably the excuse of lack of respect for the former president is just an excuse for a random feud between generals. Both father and son are most likely only puppets of the military junta. 2012/11/6 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: At least it was mostly painless. Yeah. They zeroed in first. They might've used him for target practice. - Jed -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know the margin of error expected for the impact location of a mortar round zeroed in at say 1/4 mile range? A near miss might prove to be very painful! Why not just use an explosive charge if the idea is to vaporize the poor guy? The level of ignorance and intolerance that these people exhibit is beyond imagination. For sure. The motivations that would lead to someone using the occasion of a political settling-of-scores to consolidate his hold on power in this manner are opaque to normal, well-adjusted people. Often you can get insight into a situation or culture by trying to get into their manner of thinking. But in this case the attempt fails, sort of like it does trying to get into the heads of the Mexican drug gangs. With these kinds of people, it's all Lord of the Flies and pure, raw, Machiavellian political calculation. Eric
RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
At least it was mostly painless. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Politics by mortar in North Korea
They are incredibly evil people. Read this harrowing account of a child bought up in one of their concentration camps who managed to escape http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/mar/16/escape-north-korea-prison-camp, China, morally and ethically bankrupt, is totally to blame for their continued existence via their support of the regime as a buffer between themselves and the West. This support is perhaps not totally surprising given their recent record of being run by the number 1 most evil man in history: From 1958 to 1962 Mao's efforts to collectivise China caused roughly 53m unnecessary deaths. Most of these were by starvation- perhaps 15% by the deliberate withdrawing of food from 'undesirables' (that is those who opposed the madness ). People who were too old , too young or sick were also denied food. In one town the locals queued night and day for the opportunity to dig clay that they then ate.- 250,000 tonnes of it. Many of these people died of constipation, others from ruptured sphincters. 5% to 10% of the total deaths were by executions or beatings. At this time China was shipping food to Soviet Russia, East Germany, Albania and Cuba to maintain the pretence that there was no famine. In socialist fervour, local cadres inflated local harvests- to the point that when the state then took it's 30%, there was none left at all. The hierarchy were not fooled by these inflated figures- but they took the harvests anyway. Today Mao's birthplace it was basically a shrine with thousands queueing up daily to worship the great helmsman. What is wrong with the Chinese? It scares me that such people will soon run the world. On 6 November 2012 02:20, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: At least it was mostly painless. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
