Re: [Vo]:Robert Park on Newman free energy

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Goldes
Long ago, when he first surfaced, I visited Newman and saw both his early huge 
motor and large collection of primary batteries. 

He told me the batteries had been supplied by Ray O Vac. So, I contact the 
engineer who supplied them. He told me that the coil generated so much RF 
energy that the layer which normally forms and causes primary cells to stop 
functioning after their normal lifetime, was apparently prevented from forming 
due to the RF field, consequently, Newman believed he was recharging the cells. 
However, he was not. When the chemical content was finally exhausted, they 
would, of course, stop functioning.

This is not to say large coils may not have interesting features.


--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Harvey Norris harv...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Harvey Norris harv...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robert Park on Newman free energy
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:04 PM


--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:

 From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
 Subject: [Vo]:Robert Park on Newman free energy
 To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:59 PM
 From:  What's New 6 November
 2009:
 
 MAGNETS: NEVER PAY ANOTHER ELECTRIC BILL.
 The first time I heard that promise it was made by Joseph
 W. Newman on the
 CBS Evening News with Dan Rather in 1987.  A
 Mississippi backwoods-mechanic
 with a grade-school education, Newman took a course in
 electricity.  When
 he heard that doubling the number of turns in a coil would
 double the
 magnetic field, he left to wind a mighty coil that would
 generate more
 energy than it took.  Newman never got to Lenz’s
 law, and CBS did not
 bother to check with a scientist.  About every five
 years since, that
 machine is reinvented. You can now build your own energy
 machine with a
 kit from Magnets4Energy, but it still won't work.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Horace Heffner
 http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
  
This brings me back also to those days where in the late 80's I built my own 
Newman (Air Core) style copper magnetic motor as I preferred to call it. By 
electronics friend said; What are you doing, that isn't his idea at all, you 
must use batteries ect to see this overunity effect. I wasn't interested in 
that I just wanted to see the raw mechanics of large air core 20,000 wind 
coils. And during my experimentation I discovered things as an offshoot of his 
ideas. I discovered things easily thought impossible, such as continuous 
central magnetic rotor propulsion from four outer field coils that never 
reverse polarity, but two coils shut off for the reverse action. It may be true 
that Newman's business is hocus pocus, but just because he proposed it: this 
led to research by amateur garage scientists such as myself that for my case 
has led into exhausting investigations over the years on large induction coils 
such as those used by Newman for his field coils.
 During Newman's Heyday he announced that due to his long coil wire length on 
the field coils he could trap electron oscillation within the wire length 
itself by the commutation established by the magnetic rotor. To me at the time 
this seemed preposterous. The speed of light is quite high and to propose that 
the electrical impulse itself can be reversed before it completes its journey 
of wire travel by impulse speed, thus trapping an interior portion of the drift 
charge oscillation so that the electrons entering and exiting the endings of 
the coil are less quantity then the actual amount of electron oscillation of 
amp-turn input of field coil magnetic field to act on the field rotor, ect
     Circa 20 some years later... I have measured these so called standing 
waves on large 70 lb 23 gauge ~ 60 H large air core induction coils and found 
this to be ~ 3600 hz, 2/3 less then the C value. The Newman commutator was made 
to provide as many blinks as feasible during EACH duration of polarity needed 
to rotate the magnet. During each of these breaks the induction arc allows the 
high frequency oscillation to occur during the duration of the arcing itself. 
During this duration it does not seem unreasonable to assume that the magnetic 
field in the correct direction to propel the magnetic rotor will do so, but in 
contrast when the high frequency oscillation reverses polarity it obviously is 
in the incorrect direction to propel the magnetic rotor. But during this period 
the battery source is being recharged. That charge movement made on that half 
of the hf oscillation is reduced in amplitude because it is doing work against 
its emf source, but
 it
 is also using the rotation of the magnet rotor as a generator principle 
instead of a motor one to accomplish this...

Of course the whole thing sounds like robbing Peter to pay Paul, doesn't it? 
Leaves one wondering if it can be possible.
HDN






Re: [Vo]:Robert Park on Newman free energy

2009-11-07 Thread MJ


   It's another SCAM:

   http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork

   MJ


Horace Heffner wrote:

From:  What's New 6 November 2009:

MAGNETS: NEVER PAY ANOTHER ELECTRIC BILL.




RE: [Vo]:Robert Park on Newman free energy

2009-11-07 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
A couple of years ago, I received a bulk email from Joseph Newman about his 
machinery.  The postal mail address was within walking distance of my residence 
in Scottsdale, Arizona US, so I assumed that Joseph lived quite near me at the 
time.  I decided to contact him and ask to come over and visit, thinking to 
myself that he probably had one of his devices in his garage and would love to 
show it to me.

Looking up the address, it turned out to be a UPS store which has post office 
boxes for rent.
Again I assumed he'd rent a post office box near his residence.

When I wrote him, however, his spokesperson was not accomodating and said I had 
to go to one of his public demonstrations.  End of story :-( .

Hoyt Stearns



 Subject: [Vo]:Robert Park on Newman free energy
 To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:59 PM
 From:  What's New 6 November
 2009:
 
 MAGNETS: NEVER PAY ANOTHER ELECTRIC BILL.
 The first time I heard that promise it was made by Joseph
 W. Newman on the
 CBS Evening News with Dan Rather in 1987.  A
 Mississippi backwoods-mechanic
 with a grade-school education, Newman took a course in
 electricity.  When
...