Re: Latest from Iwamura
At 12:45 PM 12/3/4, Edmund Storms wrote: The flood gates open and people in the CF field become heroes and are asked to help develop the field. Park becomes a believer and criticizes the DoE for being so slow. If that ever happens I'll happily send Park a painting of a pig flying over a dancing tortoise wearing an Order of the Tortoise medal. Regards, Horace Heffner
Re: Latest from Iwamura
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:24:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf - Jed If the Pd is first washed with Acetone, then heated to 900ºC in vacuum, some of the acetone may have been decomposed into carbon by the heat. Aqua-regia would not dissolve the carbon AFAIK. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk All SPAM goes in the trash unread.
Re: Latest from Iwamura
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:23:15 +1100: Hi, [snip] http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf If the Pd is first washed with Acetone, then heated to 900ºC in vacuum, some of the acetone may have been decomposed into carbon by the heat. Aqua-regia would not dissolve the carbon AFAIK. [snip] SIMS only distinguishes by mass. A BaC+ ion would easily be confused with Sm. What is required for experiments like these is that NAA also be applied to determine if the resultant product is indeed a nucleus or a molecular ion. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk All SPAM goes in the trash unread.
Re: Latest from Iwamura
NRL is now attempting to duplicate this work. This program was undertaken well before the DoE review and apparently was unknown to the reviewers. If, as expected, they replicate the Iwamura claims, the ball game will be over. Ed George Holz wrote: Hi Jed, See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf - Jed The results described in these papers show that the impurity migration idea is even more ridiculous (if that's possible) than before. The isotope of the starting element controls the isotope of the transmuted element. Explain that by contamination! Is there any way we can have this information forwarded to the DOE reviewers. Perhaps they may find that it is time to save their reputations by admitting the obvious. Duplicating the Iwamura experiment with additional starting elements seems like a reasonable suggestion to the DOE as a proposed experiment to improve our understanding of LENR. Perhaps some of the national labs have appropriate equipment that could be used by LENR researchers to speed further work. How can anyone deny the overwhelming theoretical and practical significance of this work! Thank you Jed for obtaining and posting this material. George Holz Varitronics Systems
RE: Latest from Iwamura
From: Edmund Storms NRL is now attempting to duplicate this work. This program was undertaken well before the DoE review and apparently was unknown to the reviewers. If, as expected, they replicate the Iwamura claims, the ball game will be over. Ed Hello Ed, Best guestamate as to when NRL will complete publish their findings? Assuming the findings are confirmed and the ball game IS over, what is likely to happen next? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com George Holz wrote: Hi Jed, See: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf - Jed The results described in these papers show that the impurity migration idea is even more ridiculous (if that's possible) than before. The isotope of the starting element controls the isotope of the transmuted element. Explain that by contamination! Is there any way we can have this information forwarded to the DOE reviewers. Perhaps they may find that it is time to save their reputations by admitting the obvious. Duplicating the Iwamura experiment with additional starting elements seems like a reasonable suggestion to the DOE as a proposed experiment to improve our understanding of LENR. Perhaps some of the national labs have appropriate equipment that could be used by LENR researchers to speed further work. How can anyone deny the overwhelming theoretical and practical significance of this work! Thank you Jed for obtaining and posting this material. George Holz Varitronics Systems
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The most amazing starting point about this paper to me, and maybe it is the ending point for Iwarmura since he emphasizes it so often but refuses the temptation to go further (even at ground Zero it's called job-security)... is the nuclear transmutations of Ba into Sm but some of us (who have less job security to worry about) can go much further out on a limb. When mass-137-enriched Ba (monoisotopic Ba) was applied, the mass distribution of Sm that we obtained depended on the starting isotopic distribution of Ba. ... and the unsaid thread of this work... and the potential generalization which appears here and elsewhere is perhaps not simply an anomalous transmutation but that these high Z transmutations occur at ridiculously low energy and not simply as a small step-wise change, such as a beta decay for instance. Instead we have a MASSIVE and apparent one-step change of 12 nucleons !!!... (excuse the typo-hyperbole, but can we emphasize the importance of this finding enough?) IOW *carbon* again appears... like the smile of the Cheshire cat... peering through from another dimension. And, going even further, perhaps the waiting-to-be-discovered 'sine qua non' of this work and others similar to it... is not just the recurrence of the carbon unit but instead it is the more generic *triad accumulation of operative units*. Which is to say that the operative methodology is not just adding deuterons, or adding carbon but... just as with quarks (at the next lower scale), the nucleons here are following suit, becoming a step-up in the mirrored self-symmetry of quantum reality. ERGO it is the triad of operative units which could be the ultimate secret to high Z transmutaion, not to mention other peculiarities of LENR. Jones BTW is there a Kanji equivalent to we've gotta protect our phoney-baloney jobs and wouldn't Mel Brooks be a hoot running the Zero lab with Cleavon Little in charge of the Kan
Re: Latest from Iwamura
At 12:45 PM 12/3/4, Edmund Storms wrote: The flood gates open and people in the CF field become heroes and are asked to help develop the field. Park becomes a believer and criticizes the DoE for being so slow. If that ever happens I'll send Park a painting of a pig flying over a dancing tortus. Regards, Horace Heffner
