Re: end of science?

2005-03-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Could it be that scientific discoverys are also subject
 to the bell curve and we made be over the rise portion .
Some thing to think about anyhow.-GES- 



end of science?

2005-03-13 Thread thomas malloy
Richard posted;

and Keith Nagel continued;
With all due respect, you're sounding like that
fellow Horgan we we discussing earlier in the
week, who believes that all science has been
done and nothing new will be discovered.
I'm reminded of the question of Chi. IMHO, it is the fifth great 
force in the universe. We have no understanding of what it is. My hot 
button that Parksie regularly pushes is Energy Medicine in general 
and Homeopathy in particular. I believe that the two phenomena are 
related.

Then there is the matter of cold spots. Our local CBS affiliate plays 
Unexplained Mysteries on Sunday night. A frequent topic of discussion 
are ghosts. The investigators go into the house with the reported 
phenomena with a thermal imaging camera. The video shows a zone of 
low temperature. We are clueless as to the nature of the entity that 
is producing the phenomena.

A similar effect has been associated with the Newman Motor. While 
wouldn't invest a nickle in Newman that I wasn't prepared to loose, a 
reputable investigator, Roger Hastings observed the cooling of the 
room.

I could go on, but this in enough. There are plenty of interesting 
phenomena that we don't understand, and are worth investigating.




End of Science

2005-03-10 Thread Jones Beene



 or end of respectabilityfor "Scientific American"?

Recently some geniuscommented that at his death Bethe had almost 
witnessed the "end of science"...John Horgan couldn't agree more. 
Horganis a senior writer for the stogy, intransigent and 
way-past-its-prime magazine, "Scientific American" and occasionally presents 
himself to be one of the mostfoolish educated-men on the planet. Not just 
for his essay"The End of Science: Facing the Limits of Knowledge in the 
Twilight of the Scientific Age." but for repeatedly compounding his earlier 
errors with irresponsible backup statements. It is almost as if the senior staff 
at S-A haspledged allegiance tothis "end-of-science" credo as their 
mantra; and are prepared to go down with the ship, once they are proven 
wrong.

Horgan ends his silly essay with "Modern science, as far as it has come, 
has left many deep questions unanswered. But the questions tend to be ones that 
will probably never be definitively answered, given the limits of human 
science." Yet as he speaks, these very questions are being answered in bits and 
pieces, and we actually seem to fast approaching a "tipping point" of sorts - 
one that will turn mainstream cosmology on its head and will indeed answer 
everything definitively.

The truth of the matter is, we are just on the dawn of a gigantic rebirth 
of science, especially physics and cosmology, as many old and incorrect and 
notions and "Laws" are being swept away to be replaced by a new physics for the 
new millennium. ZPE and LENR, dark matter and dark energy,are just the 
tips of the iceberg.To wit:

*Negative refraction* is brand new (age ~4) to physics and astronomy, but 
has been causing a stir in fields of applied-materials science. When light 
crosses a boundary, it is bent in a characteristic way.Keepers of the 
faith,like Horgan, would love to see it stay that way, so that they can 
have the smug satisfaction of saying "told ya so". But in 2001, researchers 
showed that certain artificial materials bend light in the opposite direction. 
Over a year later S-A, having tried to ignore this exciting RD for as long 
as it could, finally did a modest and slightly negative assessment 
-hoping, one supposes, that this nonsense would just go away, since it 
doesn't fit into their end-of-science mega-theme. It hasn't gone away.

The initial revelation prompted a flurry of confirmation research, most of 
which has focused on understanding and developing earth-bound negative 
refracting materials. But then, theobvious and larger repercussions of 
negative refraction have emerged, some of them hinted at on vortex. "Black holes 
bend light the 'wrong' way" is a new story by Jim Giles along these 
lines."Refraction effect may be distorting astronomers' results. The 
galaxy Centaurus A has a supermassive black hole at its heart  but could its 
gravity be fooling astronomers?"

Duh... where have you been, Jim"Starlight may be bent in odd directions 
when it passes close to a rotating black hole, the researchers now say, 
unexpectedly shifting its source's apparent position in the sky. The cause is a 
recently discovered phenomenon called negative refraction, which physicists are 
still struggling to understand." ... well, Jim, not that recently, but hey, 
better late than never...

The foot-dragging here is understandable, when the mainstream press chooses 
to ignore the initial accounts (and it may take S-A a few decades to catch-on to 
the full extent of this), that is, if the publisher does not hurry-up and fire 
the entire senior staff, beginning with Horgan... Some critics of the magazine 
might even suggest a national "drop-your-subscription" campaign or boycott and 
this step should not be ruled out, as this is still an influential journal, 
presentlybeing hijacked by Luddites.

How long will it take themto realize that Halton Arp gave the partial 
answer to this and much more, many years ago. They poo-pooedhim then, but 
will they apologize when they are forced to "eat crow"?... I doubt it. 
Gravitational red-shift is a "sizeable part" of the correct answer, but one 
cannot eliminate distance, so it is not all the answer -and Arp himself 
was a bit over-reaching. But redshift itself is the higher order phenomenon that 
demonstrates that whenover halfof the universe is "dark matter" then 
the gravitation from this type of matteris going to bend light or 
retard/advancelight-wavesdifferently than is the standard assumption 
of the way light is affected by regular matter.

Oh well, we can sit back and wait to see how long it will take them to 
realize this little gem. Gravitational red-shift has been and still is 
significantly under-appreciated in both observational analysis and in 
mathematical calculations of the age, mass and rate of expansion of the 
universe, 

Re: End of Science

2005-03-10 Thread Horace Heffner
At 10:35 AM 3/10/5, Jones Beene wrote:
Oops another eldritch-errata,

 it is only fari to allow his pre-buttal, no?


Sorry. There was no intent in my notoriously dyslexic
spelling to imply anything about Mr. Horgan's sexual
preferences. Usually the MS spell-checker steps-in and saves
me from these occasionally humorous, but seldom this
prescient, kind of slip-up

I've been using a freeware version of Eudora for about 10 years now.  It
has no spelling checker.  I'm slightly dyslexic and both a bad speller and
typist.  This experience has led me to suspect the probability of a
spelling error is proportional to:

   a. the degree to which the error inverts the meaning being expressed,

   b. the degree the expression is turned profane by the error,

   c. the amount of personal embarrassment the error causes,

   d. the degree of necessity to correct the error in a repost.

I've also noticed that the probability of finding the error upon
proofreading is inversely proportional to the above, as is the time
interval after pressing send before the error is noticed.  I suppose these
observations are merely corollaries to Murphy's law.  8^)

Regards,

Horace Heffner  




Re: End of Science

2005-03-10 Thread Jed Rothwell


Horace Heffner wrote:
I've been using a freeware
version of Eudora for about 10 years now. It
has no spelling checker.
You should get the paid version. It is much better and it does have a
spelling checker.
- Jed




Re: End of Science

2005-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message - 
From: Horace Heffner

 I've also noticed that the probability of finding the
error upon
 proofreading is inversely proportional to the above, as is
the time
 interval after pressing send before the error is noticed.
I suppose these
 observations are merely corollaries to Murphy's law.  8^)

Yup. Exactomundo. And speaking of that genius, Murphy...
here are a few of my favorite corollaries, a few of them
shamelessly paraphrased from:
http://dmawww.epfl.ch/roso.mosaic/dm/murphy.html

MURPHY'S LAWS  Corollaries

Nothing is as easy as it first looks.

Everything takes longer than you first think.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the
one that will cause the most damage will be the first one to
go wrong.

Or else, they will all go wrong at once.

Corollary to that corollary: If there is a worse time for
something to go wrong, it will happen precisely then.

If anything simply cannot go wrong, it will go wrong anyway.

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously
overlooked something.

It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools
are as ingenious as indigenous.

Murphy's Law of Thermodynamics
Things get worse under pressure.

Murphy's Law of Logic
Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong
conclusion with confidence.

The Murphy Principle of Life
Smile . . . tomorrow things will only get worse.

Murphy's Law of Laws
Laws of science will be vacated quickest in direct
proportion to their assumed prior validity.

The day after any law is overturned, the former proponents
will say it was always meant to be special and never
general

Murphy's 1st Law of RD
All great discoveries are made by accident.

RD corollaries
Always draw your curves first, then plot your reading.
Enough research will tend to support any theory.
Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not
understand.
Never report you null experiment so that others can waste as
much time on it as your have.

Poor Man's Commentary on Murphy's Laws
1) If your have nothing to lose by change, relax.
2) If you have everything to gain by change, relax.
3) If change doesn't seem to matter, be very concerned.

O'Toole's Commentary on Murphy
Murphy was an optimist.

Tuttle's Comment on O'Toole
O'Toole was a person predisposed to take a favorable view of
Murphy

Murphy's Military Laws
Friendly fire isn't
The most dangerous thing in the combat zone is an officer
with a map.
Never share a foxhole with anyone braver than you are.

Murphy's Love Laws

All the good ones are taken.

If the good person isn't taken, there's a better reason.

Brains x Beauty x Availability = Constant.

Money can't buy love, but it sure puts you in a great
bargaining position.

Nice guys really do finish last.

The qualities that most attract a woman to a man are usually
the same ones she can't stand years later.

Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.

Love, for a man, is the delusion that one woman differs
significantly from another.

And many more... so **smile** it hides one's deep angst
about the truth of Murphy and makes people wonder what you
know that he missed.




Re: End of Science

2005-03-10 Thread Horace Heffner
At 3:32 PM 3/10/5, Jed Rothwell wrote:
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Horace Heffner wrote:

I've been using a freeware version of Eudora for about 10 years now.  It
has no spelling checker.

You should get the paid version. It is much better and it does have a
spelling checker.

Obviously, I'm way too cheap for that!  8^)

Actually, current versions of Eudora probably won't work on my computer (A
Mac Performa 5200 running System 7 - see how cheap I really am!).  I am
interested in upgrading though, both Eudora and Mac, but wonder if the 500+
megabytes of email I have cataloged can be converted.

Regards,

Horace Heffner  




Re: End of Science

2005-03-10 Thread Grimer
At 08:52 am 10-03-05 -0800, Harry Tuttle wrote:

  snip

 *Negative refraction* is brand new (age ~4) 
 to physics and astronomy, but has been causing 
 a stir in fields of applied-materials science. 
 When light crosses a boundary, it is bent in a 
 characteristic way. Keepers of the faith, like 
 Horgan, would love to see it stay that way, so 
 that they can have the smug satisfaction of 
 saying told ya so. But in 2001, researchers 
 showed that certain artificial materials bend 
 light in the opposite direction. Over a year 
 later S-A, having tried to ignore this exciting 
 RD for as long as it could, finally did a 
 modest and slightly negative assessment - 
 hoping, one supposes, that this nonsense would 
 just go away, since it doesn't fit into their 
 end-of-science mega-theme. It hasn't gone away.

snip

Stimulated by Tuttle's incisive post I googled 
*Negative refraction* to find out about this 
interesting discovery.

http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-6/p37.html

From the opening sentence.
---
Materials engineered to have negative permittivity 
and permeability demonstrate exotic behavior, from 
a negative refractive index to subwavelength focusing.
---
.I could recognise the mistake that was being made. 
For years I made a similar mistake myself.

Permittivity and Permeability are simply Iterative 
Hierarchical Strains of EM space. One is a measure 
of tensile strain, the other a measure of balancing 
compressive strain. If epsilon is positive then mu 
must be negative and vice-versa. So let us say that 
permeability represents positive space strain, then 
permittivity must represent negative space strain 
and must be accompanied by a minus sign. 

So the statement should really read,
---
Materials engineered to have positive 
permittivity and negative permeability 
demonstrate exotic behavior, from a 
negative refractive index to 
subwavelength focusing.
--

In other words the signs of  permittivity 
and permeability are reversed.

For most materials the quasi Solid Phase 
is in compression and the quasi Fluid Phase 
is in tension, using the terms Solid and 
Fluid in the sense they are used in Di-phase 
Theory. But for some materials, such as jelly 
and children's balloons, it is the other way 
around. The Fluid Phases (water and air 
respectively) are in compression and the Solid 
Phases (organic networks) are in tension.

In effect, these new materials are the 
equivalent of jelly and balloons on the 
EM scale of things.

The trouble with physicists is that they are 
so lost among the trees they very rarely get 
a good look at the wood. ;-)

Cheers

Frank Grimer

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