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[kowalskil]

Hey!

 

Open message 

 

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[Vo]:millions of science papers free online

[a.ashfield]

http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science 

Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:?Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[mixent]

In reply to  Russ George's message of Sun, 14 Feb 2016 11:14:17 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>I surely hope that there are mirrors of that data being created and saved 
>everywhere. Paywalls in science have always been deplorable and have been 
>avariciously supported by the vast majority of the scientific community. Once 
>upon a time that is no longer there were costs associated with publication of 
>science. There can be no reason to allow and sustain the billion dollar 
>science journal banksters game.
>
...particularly when you consider that in many cases the actual science was paid
for out of the public purse.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[H LV]

I don't think she does much archiving. She has collected keys and pass
words (from anonymous donors) to other journal sites and her site applies
them automatically so you can download the paper for free.

Harry

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Russ George  wrote:

> I surely hope that there are mirrors of that data being created and saved
> everywhere. Paywalls in science have always been deplorable and have been
> avariciously supported by the vast majority of the scientific community.
> Once upon a time that is no longer there were costs associated with
> publication of science. There can be no reason to allow and sustain the
> billion dollar science journal banksters game.
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:49 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science
> papers free online to spread knowledge
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, H LV  wrote:
>
>
>
> A researcher in Russia has made more than 48 million journal articles -
> almost every single peer-reviewed paper every published - freely available
> online. And she's now refusing to shut the site down, despite a court
> injunction and a lawsuit from Elsevier, one of the world's biggest
> publishers.
>
>
>
> Interesting finding. I was unaware of this site.
>
>
>
> I am sympathetic with Alexandra Elbakyan's cause.  It is frustrating not
> to have ready access to a number of cold-fusion-related papers that one
> sees reference to from time to time.  But I don't see this case going the
> way she hopes it will.
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>

[Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

[Axil Axil]

Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

http://phys.org/news/2016-02-intelligent-robots-threaten-millions-jobs.html

Advances in artificial intelligence will soon lead to robots that are
capable of nearly everything humans do, threatening tens of millions of
jobs in the coming 30 years, experts warned Saturday.

"We are approaching a time when machines will be able to outperform humans
at almost any task," said Moshe Vardi.

"I believe that society needs to confront this question before it is upon
us: If machines are capable of doing almost any work humans can do, what
will humans do?"

"Can the global economy adapt to greater than 50 percent unemployment?" he
asked.

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

[Jed Rothwell]

I am glad to see people paying attention to this issue. I hope it is not
politicized. Many people feel that that work is a moral issue; that
able-bodied people who do not work should not be given sustenance. This was
a reasonable view in the past, but now that robots are making rapid
progress it is gradually becoming unreasonable. We need to adjust morality
to fit the technology of our time. What is moral in one era may not be in
the next.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

[Patrick Ellul]

Jed,
You seem to be passionate about this topic.
I am too.
Do you know of a collection of links to essays and studies regarding it?
Regards.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell 
wrote:

> I am glad to see people paying attention to this issue. I hope it is not
> politicized. Many people feel that that work is a moral issue; that
> able-bodied people who do not work should not be given sustenance. This was
> a reasonable view in the past, but now that robots are making rapid
> progress it is gradually becoming unreasonable. We need to adjust morality
> to fit the technology of our time. What is moral in one era may not be in
> the next.
>
> - Jed
>
>


-- 
Patrick

www.tRacePerfect.com
The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
The quickest puzzle ever!

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

[Ludwik Kowalski]

The last sentence in Jed's post (in red below) is food for thought for 
theologians.


On Feb 14, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote:

> Jed,
> You seem to be passionate about this topic.
> I am too.
> Do you know of a collection of links to essays and studies regarding it?
> Regards.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
> I am glad to see people paying attention to this issue. I hope it is not 
> politicized. Many people feel that that work is a moral issue; that 
> able-bodied people who do not work should not be given sustenance. This was a 
> reasonable view in the past, but now that robots are making rapid progress it 
> is gradually becoming unreasonable. We need to adjust morality to fit the 
> technology of our time. What is moral in one era may not be in the next.
> 
> - Jed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Patrick
> 
> www.tRacePerfect.com
> The daily puzzle everyone can finish but not everyone can perfect!
> The quickest puzzle ever! 

RE: [Vo]:EM drive actually a GW drive?

[Frank roarty]

Russ, Agreed, I was thinking the same thing, even LENR may be a good
detector, The EM drive is by design inefficient - only a small fraction of
the microwave energy is linked in an unbalanced manner to the spatial axis,
Shawyer and I both think this is relativistic in the same way that Jan
Naudts thinks the Mills hydrino is relativistic. In the case of nano
geometry there is less organization so we create a self assembled demon with
condensed hydrogen ions that creates heat where as Shawyer concentrates on
accumulating a spatial bias by linking reactionary forces between different
inertial frames [the thought being that standing waves can segregate vacuum
density similar to Casimir suppression and the dissimilar geometry of his
trapezoid can unbalance the radiation pressure against the walls such that
some tiny fraction of equal and opposite forces are instead divided between
different inertial frames. Since the EM isn't trying to extract energy from
the medium it can afford to be very inefficient - it offers a path to
reactionless drive.  IMHO these inertial frames in the EM are far less
relativistic then what hydrogen experiences in the Mills or Rossi catalysts
but may become more potent by adapting a hybrid scheme of reactor and drive
geometry and materials. Off the top of my head I suspect that micro
trapezoid EMS all aligned  would be more efficient in a sort of tip of the
hat to Difiore et all the "driven" system might flush out what they were
seeking with stacked Casimir cavities. I don't know if there is any way to
employ the hydrogen and nano powders without destroying any spatial bias to
the system but maybe someone else with a higher pay grade could suggest?
Getting back to LIGO I think this also tells us something wrt the Michaelson
Morley experiment and why there is no detection of a spatial bias to the
ether.. because Virtual particles are traveling 90 degrees to all spatial
axis  and changes in rate of this intersection can only be detected via
differential measurement[paradox twins]

Fran

 

From: Russ George [mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:40 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:EM drive actually a GW drive?

 

Given what the methods and discovery of LIGO teach is it likely that the EM
drive is in fact a GW drive and thus an immediate realization of some
utility of GW. If so then Shawyer's 'GW detector' has far outdone LIGO.

Re: [Vo]:millions of science papers free online

[Esa J. Ruoho]

So why is she a Big deal and Aaron Schwarz wasn't?

Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.

> a.ashfield  kirjoitti 14.2.2016 kello 22.19:
> 
> http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science
>  

Re: [Vo]:millions of science papers free online

[Esa J. Ruoho]

Erm Sorry, Aaron Swartz
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet's_Own_Boy:_The_Story_of_Aaron_Swartz


Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.

> a.ashfield  kirjoitti 14.2.2016 kello 22.19:
> 
> http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science
>  

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[Esa J. Ruoho]

Proof of torrent Existing or GTFO (I jest, but its easy to claim that somewhere 
there is a torrent, harder to prove it exists)

Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.

> Jones Beene  kirjoitti 15.2.2016 kello 0.36:
> 
> From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
> 
> I don't think she does much archiving. She has collected keys and pass words 
> (from anonymous donors) to other journal sites and her site applies them 
> automatically so you can download the paper for free.
> 
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> She sez she has about half downloaded: “I developed the Sci-Hub.org website 
> where anyone can download paywalled research papers by request. Also I 
> uploaded at least half of more than 41 million paywalled papers to the LibGen 
> database and worked actively to create mirrors of it. “I am not afraid to say 
> this, because when you do the right thing, why should you hide it?”
> 
> If you tried hard enough, you could probably find a torrent which has her 
> whole database but it is probably half a terabyte, if it exists.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

[Alain Sepeda]

another point to mitigate the fear si that if you cannot be more
intelligent than a computer, you can use it.

I cannot compute as fast as Excel, but I can make model and accounting with
it.

2016-02-15 2:33 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell :

> I am glad to see people paying attention to this issue. I hope it is not
> politicized. Many people feel that that work is a moral issue; that
> able-bodied people who do not work should not be given sustenance. This was
> a reasonable view in the past, but now that robots are making rapid
> progress it is gradually becoming unreasonable. We need to adjust morality
> to fit the technology of our time. What is moral in one era may not be in
> the next.
>
> - Jed
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

[Frank Znidarsic]

If its not robots it is outsourcing.  I, for one, do not understand the new 
economy.  How is the US be great again without any manufacturing jobs?   Maybe 
we will all write apps for each other.




http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/12/news/companies/carrier-moving-jobs-mexico-youtube/

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[Alain Sepeda]

is there available PR papers from skeptic origin?
I think about lewis, hansen, Morrison, Wilson key critical papers (the only
one?)

One reason people still don't accept LENR is because they believe that
hidden behind a paywall where they have no access, there is a miraculous
demonstration of LENR artifact.

Never joke people like me believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monster (may He
be blessed), some believe in LENR as an omnipotent artifact, and there is
much more evidence they I wrong than FSM (may He be blessed) is not real..



2016-02-15 7:04 GMT+01:00 Esa J. Ruoho :

> Proof of torrent Existing or GTFO (I jest, but its easy to claim that
> somewhere there is a torrent, harder to prove it exists)
>
> Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.
>
> Jones Beene  kirjoitti 15.2.2016 kello 0.36:
>
> *From:* H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com ]
>
> I don't think she does much archiving. She has collected keys and pass
> words (from anonymous donors) to other journal sites and her site applies
> them automatically so you can download the paper for free.
>
> Harry
>
> She sez she has about half downloaded: “I developed the Sci-Hub.org
>  website where anyone can download paywalled research
> papers by request. Also I uploaded at least half of more than 41 million
> paywalled papers to the LibGen database and worked actively to create
> mirrors of it. “I am not afraid to say this, because when you do the
> right thing, why should you hide it?”
>
> If you tried hard enough, you could probably find a torrent which has her
> whole database but it is probably half a terabyte, if it exists.
>
>

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[Jones Beene]

From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] 

I don't think she does much archiving. She has collected keys and pass words 
(from anonymous donors) to other journal sites and her site applies them 
automatically so you can download the paper for free.

Harry

She sez she has about half downloaded: “I developed the Sci-Hub.org website 
where anyone can download paywalled research papers by request. Also I uploaded 
at least half of more than 41 million paywalled papers to the LibGen database 
and worked actively to create mirrors of it. “I am not afraid to say this, 
because when you do the right thing, why should you hide it?” 
If you tried hard enough, you could probably find a torrent which has her whole 
database but it is probably half a terabyte, if it exists.

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[Eric Walker]

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, H LV  wrote:

A researcher in Russia has made more than 48 million journal articles -
> almost every single peer-reviewed paper every published - freely available
> online. And she's now refusing to shut the site down, despite a court
> injunction and a lawsuit from Elsevier, one of the world's biggest
> publishers.
>

Interesting finding. I was unaware of this site.

I am sympathetic with Alexandra Elbakyan's cause.  It is frustrating not to
have ready access to a number of cold-fusion-related papers that one sees
reference to from time to time.  But I don't see this case going the way
she hopes it will.

Eric

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[Russ George]

I surely hope that there are mirrors of that data being created and saved 
everywhere. Paywalls in science have always been deplorable and have been 
avariciously supported by the vast majority of the scientific community. Once 
upon a time that is no longer there were costs associated with publication of 
science. There can be no reason to allow and sustain the billion dollar science 
journal banksters game.

 

From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:49 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers 
free online to spread knowledge

 

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, H LV  > wrote:

 

A researcher in Russia has made more than 48 million journal articles - almost 
every single peer-reviewed paper every published - freely available online. And 
she's now refusing to shut the site down, despite a court injunction and a 
lawsuit from Elsevier, one of the world's biggest publishers.

 

Interesting finding. I was unaware of this site.

 

I am sympathetic with Alexandra Elbakyan's cause.  It is frustrating not to 
have ready access to a number of cold-fusion-related papers that one sees 
reference to from time to time.  But I don't see this case going the way she 
hopes it will.

 

Eric

 

Re: [Vo]:Re: New application of uncertainty principle and differential ZPE--

[Vibrator !]

Hi Bob,

H-bar, derived from the reduced planck constant, is the quantum of
elementary momentum - so it's very much the corporeal component of EM
energy; the "stuff" that is traded between photons and charges, whatever
the provenance of the photon in question, reconciling classical magnetic
force with radiation pressure (per solar sailing), and the Casimir effect
is no different, but for its source of photons.

You're right that virtual photons can effectively be rectified from vacuum
via coherent oscillation - such results have actually been demonstrated in
recent years, including mechanically (IIRC via a tiny reed fluttering at
MHz).

But there can be no suggestion h-bar is variable - it's a constant, after
all.  The energy of photons is a function of their wavelength (since the
group velocity is C for all wavelengths), hence shorter wavelengths have
higher frequency and thus energy/time.  Thus the stronger an EMF, the
higher the flux density of these quantised exchanges.

All particles are composed of higher-dimensional "spin" polarisations of
this elementary momentum field - for instance Pauli exclusion distinguishes
fermions and baryonic matter from bosons (fields and forces) on the basis
of integer and half-integer polarisations, for example combining two
up-spin or down-spin electrons, all of which have 1/2 spin, produces a
1-spin boson - a Cooper pair - thus jumping the superposition-exclusion
barrier.  So the value of the quantum is as hard-wired as the ratios
between physical gears.  Likewise, the constancy of alpha has been verified
to ~10e9 ly in all directions.

Exactly how moving charges "summon" virtual photon flux is a fascinating
issue in its own right (esp. in regards to CoE), but for that matter the
classical explanation from relativistic effects (time compression between
internal and external FoR's) is as compelling as the quantum view.  Both
arrive at perfect agreement, from completely different sets of first
principles.  In short though, it's the density (number / time) of
interactions between charges that varies, not the value of the interaction
itself.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Bob Cook  wrote:

> Vibrator--
>
> Thanks for that clarification of ZPE.
>
> But how does Planck”s constant  ( h ) come into the ZPE idea.  Does that
> constant have any basis with respect to a causal effect of the appearance
> of virtual energy in the “real” 4-D measurable time and distance realm?
>
> It seems that you are suggesting that the virtual EM energy must be
> invited to come into the “real” 4-D realm through the existence of a
> resonant place—kind of like a friendly dance hall.  And the friendliness of
> the dance hall depends upon the local ghostly wave function going out of
> existence in the real 4-D realm.
>
> In my mind that explanation  is still pretty vague.  What is needed is a
> derivation of h.  It seems to be measurable to a good degree per
> Wikipedia.
>
> I tend to consider that there is a good explanation of h---that its not
> just a constant with a random value in the 4-D realm.
>
> Bob Cook
>
> *From:* Vibrator ! 
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:11 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: New application of uncertainty principle and
> differential ZPE--
>
> It's not ZPE that causes uncertainty, but the other way around!
>
> Due to the indeterminacy of wave function collapse there's a non-zero
> chance of virtual photons of any wavelength precipitating out of vacuum at
> any location  that's the ZPE.
>
> Consider the twin-plate Casimir effect - there's two alternate
> explanations usually given for the phenomenon:
>
> - the narrow space between the plates precludes virtual photons with more
> than half that wavelength from manifesting within that confine, causing an
> effective band gap in ZPE pressures inside vs outside the sandwich, and
> hence a mechanical force.
>
> - alternatively, it is explained in terms of induction; the spontaneous
> appearance and instantaneous disappearance of virtual photons induce
> transient EMFs per Faraday which interact classically, producing the net
> force.
>
> So either way, it is the indeterminacy of the wavefunction that gives a
> latent energy to the EM field.
>
> It should also be remembered that virtual photons are the standard EM
> mediator - the force between magnets, charges (ie. voltage), and likely
> other forces too (W/Z and maybe even strong and gravity) have to be
> accomodated in our reckonings of the ZPE density...  after all, virtual
> photons aren't "emitted" by charges, but simply coopted from the vacuum
> potential.
>
> This illustrates the so-called vacuum catastrophe - the ZPE density needed
> to explain the Casimir effect is very low, yet the same field also has to
> be able to account for magnetars and millisecond pulsars etc., and
> everything else between.
>
> The actual currency exchanged between charges in relative motion, via the
> 

[Vo]:EM drive actually a GW drive?

[Russ George]

Given what the methods and discovery of LIGO teach is it likely that the EM
drive is in fact a GW drive and thus an immediate realization of some
utility of GW. If so then Shawyer's 'GW detector' has far outdone LIGO.

[Vo]:OMS - Holmlid, Crypto and Pychno

[Jones Beene]

OMS stands for Octahedral Molecular Sieve (see the Wiki entry). It is
appearing to be an important structural arrangement for hydrogen
densification.

>From there on, this comment gets swamped in acronyms, but that is almost
unavoidable in Science these days.

Returning to OMS - it is subnanometer porosity at its best . especially when
composed of "Crypto" which is short for Cryptomelane - a potassium manganese
oxide mineral with formula K(Mn4+,Mn2+)8O16. "Pychno" is the name given to
dense hydrogen by Arata, Zhang and other Japanese researchers. Crypto is a
natural OMS and has recently been shown to activate hydrogen (Holmlid
citation below). All of the components of crypto are Mills (Rydberg)
catalysts. It is probably the best way to incorporate an alkali into any
experiment.

Side note: (the simplest way to refer to the dense hydrogen species is
either UDH, DDL or IRH). "Pychno" is in the subject bar because it rhymes
with "crypto." Also Arata can be given a little credit since he was
apparently the first (besides Mills) to recognize the species and Mills
still does not realize that only the ultra-dense form is important.

It is fair to assume that any of these acronyms refer to the densest from of
hydrogen, not the hydrino predecessor states, and can be presumed to be
active for thermal gain in the context of the "glow-stick" type of reactor
popularized by Rossi and Parkhomov and recently claimed to have been
replicated by another Russian group. 

Recently, Holmlid and others also observed Rydberg states synthesized by
Crypto. see: "Emission of highly excited electronic states of potassium from
cryptomelane nanorods"
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282047571_Emission_of_highly_excite
d_electronic_states_of_potassium_from_cryptomelane_nanorods
More later. Thanks to Ecco for sounding the alert on crypto.

Jones

RE: [Vo]:OMS - Holmlid, Crypto and Pychno

[Jones Beene]

 

Good picture of OMS

http://emlab.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/370/2014/10/Urchin-like-octa
hedral-molecular-sieves.jpg

 

 

 

OMS stands for Octahedral Molecular Sieve (see the Wiki entry). It is
appearing to be an important structural arrangement for hydrogen
densification.

>From there on, this comment gets swamped in acronyms, but that is almost
unavoidable in Science these days.

Returning to OMS - it is subnanometer porosity at its best . especially when
composed of "Crypto" which is short for Cryptomelane - a potassium manganese
oxide mineral with formula K(Mn4+,Mn2+)8O16. "Pychno" is the name given to
dense hydrogen by Arata, Zhang and other Japanese researchers. Crypto is a
natural OMS and has recently been shown to activate hydrogen (Holmlid
citation below). All of the components of crypto are Mills (Rydberg)
catalysts. It is probably the best way to incorporate an alkali into any
experiment.

Side note: (the simplest way to refer to the dense hydrogen species is
either UDH, DDL or IRH). "Pychno" is in the subject bar because it rhymes
with "crypto." Also Arata can be given a little credit since he was
apparently the first (besides Mills) to recognize the species and Mills
still does not realize that only the ultra-dense form is important.

It is fair to assume that any of these acronyms refer to the densest from of
hydrogen, not the hydrino predecessor states, and can be presumed to be
active for thermal gain in the context of the "glow-stick" type of reactor
popularized by Rossi and Parkhomov and recently claimed to have been
replicated by another Russian group. 

Recently, Holmlid and others also observed Rydberg states synthesized by
Crypto. see: "Emission of highly excited electronic states of potassium from
cryptomelane nanorods"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282047571_Emission_of_highly_excite
d_electronic_states_of_potassium_from_cryptomelane_nanorods

More later. Thanks to Ecco for sounding the alert on crypto.

Jones

 

[Vo]:If you are "in LENR" do not complain!

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/02/feb-14-2016-if-you-are-in-lenr-do-not.html

Only a small fraction of the reasons of not complaining if you are indeed
dedicated to LENR- a quasi-principle of the field.


peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

[H LV]

​​
Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to
spread knowledge

A researcher in Russia has made more than 48 million journal articles -
almost every single peer-reviewed paper every published - freely available
online. And she's now refusing to shut the site down, despite a court
injunction and a lawsuit from Elsevier, one of the world's biggest
publishers.

http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science

​Harry​