Re: [vos-d] 3D engines

2007-06-27 Thread Peter Amstutz
Well, one thing I was trying to get across is than VOS doesn't care that 
much about a lot of these "game engine" features, because we are going 
to be doing things our own way as part of our own design.  I.e. we don't 
care if an engine has a native map format with scripting hooks, because 
we're going to be using A3DL and our own scripting system.  We "just" 
need a good, high level 3D renderer.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:29:10PM +0800, chris wrote:
> Hi Peter, just one comment, it is proly not right to compare Ogre with a 3D
> game engine.
> Might be better to look at a game engine built on Ogre - like GOOF.
> 
> chris
> 
> On 27/06/07, Peter Amstutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Many of the support features of various engines (map editors, or support
> >for certain modeling programs) are less useful for us, since we will
> >ultimately need to convert data to and from the engine-neutral A3DL data
> >model for transmission over the network.

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[vos-d] 3D engines

2007-06-26 Thread Peter Amstutz
The developer of the Lightfeather 3D engine (an offshoot of Irrlicht, 
since rewritten) has expressed an interest in working with us, so I 
wanted to mention the idea of moving primary development from Crystal 
Space to another 3D engine.  Since I am rewriting Ter'Angreal either 
way, I don't have a strong opposition to changing engines, but I don't 
(presently) have a strong reason to switch, either.  The crucial 
features are that it be cross-platform, fast, unobtrusive (easy to 
subordinate to the WxWidgets or VOS event loop) and support a few 
crucial features we need, like portals and skeletal animation.

Other 3D toolkits I have considered include Open Scene Graph and Ogre.  
I suspect that at this stage of development, most 3D engines are more 
similar than different -- they all use OpenGL and the same shader 
languages (Cg or GLSL), which accounts for about 90% of the end result 
of rendering.

Many of the support features of various engines (map editors, or support 
for certain modeling programs) are less useful for us, since we will 
ultimately need to convert data to and from the engine-neutral A3DL data 
model for transmission over the network.

Thoughts?

Lightfeather:
http://lf.mmdevel.de/news.php

Crystal Space
http://crystalspace3d.org

Open Scene Graph
http://www.openscenegraph.com

Ogre
http://www.ogre3d.org

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Re: [vos-d] 3D engines

2007-06-26 Thread chris

Hi Peter, just one comment, it is proly not right to compare Ogre with a 3D
game engine.
Might be better to look at a game engine built on Ogre - like GOOF.

chris

On 27/06/07, Peter Amstutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The developer of the Lightfeather 3D engine (an offshoot of Irrlicht,
since rewritten) has expressed an interest in working with us, so I
wanted to mention the idea of moving primary development from Crystal
Space to another 3D engine.  Since I am rewriting Ter'Angreal either
way, I don't have a strong opposition to changing engines, but I don't
(presently) have a strong reason to switch, either.  The crucial
features are that it be cross-platform, fast, unobtrusive (easy to
subordinate to the WxWidgets or VOS event loop) and support a few
crucial features we need, like portals and skeletal animation.

Other 3D toolkits I have considered include Open Scene Graph and Ogre.
I suspect that at this stage of development, most 3D engines are more
similar than different -- they all use OpenGL and the same shader
languages (Cg or GLSL), which accounts for about 90% of the end result
of rendering.

Many of the support features of various engines (map editors, or support
for certain modeling programs) are less useful for us, since we will
ultimately need to convert data to and from the engine-neutral A3DL data
model for transmission over the network.

Thoughts?

Lightfeather:
http://lf.mmdevel.de/news.php

Crystal Space
http://crystalspace3d.org

Open Scene Graph
http://www.openscenegraph.com

Ogre
http://www.ogre3d.org

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